Mac vs Windows - Who Wins in 2024?

[@Mrwhosetheboss]

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[@mr.z_yt]

Interesting…

[@hityouwiththatdduddudu]

The problem is, he forgot to add Rickkk......

[@SkyeHasACuteDog]

I can’t wait to watch this

[@henryy1315]

Comic sans???

[@timothypolis3147]

Great Editing👍

[@thatguyFS6961]

There's some missing points on your end: 1- upgradability 2- variety of choices 300$-5000$ laptops Also as an engineer it's literally not an option since 80%+ of the software I need isn't even available on Mac. I think it boils down to the person's needs and choice there is no clear winner

[@vivago727]

also as an engineer (at least me with cad) you need professional graphics cards (like the nvidia a seires) that aren't aviable on mac

[@ahouat7913]

You can tell hes not using a laptop as main, upgradability and choice is the main reason i would never buy a macbook, i do own an iphone though.

[@KilledByThatTrain]

As someone who once read a book about engineering, I can say with assurity that funny cat videos run so much more smoothly on Windows vs Macs

[@tyleg3nd]

@@KilledByThatTrain oh thank you, I don’t know what I would’ve done without that information 🫡🫡

[@rainshadows17]

imo after switching to windows, I love it, its honestly really customisable. Even down to the accent color and what the gestures on the trackpad do. Windows is a clear winner for me

[@TimSurrealYT]

Josef is an absolute genius.. He told Arun he didn't know whether to get Mac or Windows so he ended up getting both lmao

[@RonaldoHater777]

I am better than Mrwhostheboss, My content is better!🤡🥺

[@Helo_Watch]

Yes

[@shaderxcb]

lmao

[@GoofyahhGuy.]

thanks for the spoiler

[@vip3rnb762]

twasn't a spoiler lol @@GoofyahhGuy.

[@victorjacob1]

The problem here is that this is not "Windows" vs Mac. It's this particular Dell computer. There are so many options available at this price point.

[@igniculusquartz1827]

very good point.

[@funnytiktokvideos1176]

True.. Because you can find other laptop that can give the MAC way more run for it's money

[@Centrinario]

The Dell XPS 15 is no slouch, and there are very few options, if any, that will give you a better, smoother Windows experience. Windows feels like it was made for developers and technicians and MacOS always feels like it was made for... people. And I'm someone who has used Windows almost exclusively. But there are things which are hard to deny. In terms of pure, uninterrupted and joyful interaction with your laptop, Macs are just... better.

[@victorjacob1]

@@Centrinario smoother window experience? This is why this test is odd. Windows has so many options available for whatever "windows experience" you're looking for. For example: You're a gamer - you go with a more gaming focused option. Mac has...1 option. The Mac. Not to discredit it as it is a great computer in itself, but you are kinda pigeonholed to 1 option. The Dell is something I would never choose as my option, and others might. I use a MacBook every single day for work (music engineering) and can say when it comes to fun and joy out of my computer, that's typically from my PC, not my Mac

[@tedzards509]

​@@CentrinarioWindows is really bad for developers when compared to linux and even mac due to drivers, the many quirks of the Windows window manager and much more. Microsoft even kind of acknowledged it when developing WSL.

[@dojo6714]

Did no one notice when Josef snapped his fingers, his shoulder still showed lol

[@amvboost7681]

😭

[@mihadmuhtadi]

0:23 yeah

[@starwars8108]

I did, it was so funny

[@FLAMINGDRAGONyt]

yes it did

[@elicreatesplus7]

Yeah the editing of the whole video also just doesn’t seem as good as usual, but still keep it up Joseph!

[@hellfrozen9971]

As much as I would like to buy a macbook,for the awesome screen,baterry,sound,optimization it has,the lack of compatibility with apps is in my opinion what makes macbook pretty much useless,I want to be able to use any and every app out there,I am not a person that just sticks to 2 or 3 tools that everyone uses and calls it a day,I need customizability to be able to use apps that were just released and that no one would think of using.

[@monkeyD.jayant]

Love your vids

[@andyH_England]

Yeah, it is not for everyone, but assuming that the apps you need are on both platforms then the Macs are simply better. This was not even a fair test as you can get a MB Pro 14 M2 Pro for a similar price to the XPS 15 ATM!

[@thebloo12]

Agreed

[@mazakantc5532]

get an intel based Mac with bootcamp options.

[@llyooo9323]

​@@mazakantc5532Intel based macs are literally the worst laptops in the world

[@PacoMike03]

I think you missed an extremely important point here, which is upgradability. I replaced the battery on my 5 year old Dell XPS 15, and it is basically all new. If you are someone who likes some tinkering, you can also upgrade the ram, ssd, wifi card, do repasting and undervolting. I did all that in addition to switching to a linux operating system, and my laptop is performing much better than a new/stock laptop. Edit: Some have pointed out that you can also upgrade on a MacBook, and you are absolutely right! Though for my XPS 15 and other Windows laptops, switching batteries is very simple and I paid about 60€ for a 97Wh battery. Another point is also that you can set the charging limit to say 75% which preserves its life expectancy even more. I am not sure if it is possible on a Mac though.. At the end of the day I think both laptops are amazing, it just depends on what you value more :)

[@andyH_England]

You can upgrade a MB battery though in my many years of using Macs I have never had to. My MB Pro 15 from 2015 still has a healthy battery!

[@naqibfarhan4356]

​@@andyH_Englandyeah for sure bro. But i am pressing 'x' to doubt. Contrary to popular beliefs Batteries aren't magic. Ain't no freakin way ur batteries are still doing good after 8 f yrs.

[@chunhc0531]

talking about upgradability using laptop or macbook?? um... think again there is no such thing in these 2 categories

[@andyH_England]

@@naqibfarhan4356 I only charge my battery to 80% and that increases the life cycles by around two times. When on power I use the battery at 50% which reduces degradation. I think if you know what you're doing, and know how to preserve batteries you can make them last. Last. Sadly many people just abuse them and think they will last forever and then start whining when they don't.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@naqibfarhan4356 batteries aren't magic, but even the internal design, the quality of lithium used and most importantly - the BMS - have a great impact on the longevity of the cells. So yes, a battery can last 8 years, if you take good care of it and it was a good battery from the start.

[@sankyboi]

I think repairability should also be an important factor. Apple is soldering SSDs and locking sensors and doing all kinds of shenanigans which make repairs either a nightmare, or so cost prohibitive that buying a replacement becomes a viable option. Perhaps not very important for those who can afford to buy two $1600 laptops, but most consumers don't have that kind of money, and people often tend to go over-budget with laptops because "Its an investment, it will last many years".

[@integratedinfinity848]

exactly the repairing cost for mac is greater mess than buying the product

[@MK-hw2ir]

I want a laptop, which one do u advise me? (Im not rich!😂)

[@walmartkart6175]

@@MK-hw2ir windows

[@LoftyCrofty]

@@MK-hw2irif your not rich then windows anyway. With apple, your price to performance is shocking. You are just buying it for its looks

[@perezmarlon4371]

They are know for fuckup your own phones in purpose, hire jailbreakers to add their customs features and as you say repairing is a nightmare, remember not long ago not all repair shops will be able to to repair iphones since there is a soft which will know if the hardware part is coming from apple or not

[@Ann_779]

I stick with Windows, I like to customize my laptop my way and it has never let me down. The only thing that sometimes causes me problems is the product key, does anyone know where I can get one? I'm tired of using the google spreadsheet.

[@countrymanWayne]

I also stay with Windows and about your problem don't worry, in BNH Software you can get the product key. You're welcome!

[@Ann_779]

Omgg, you really helped me, thank you for your recommendation. I got it!

[@SalehAlrajhiYC]

@@Ann_779 there is a tool called MAS aka microsoft activsion script it will generate a key and linked it to your account i did this as a test now after i format my laptop i still have accses to get windows 11 pro for free from microsoft store and that tool is safe also it have activate for office 365 but you cant use online things like defender and 1tb one drive storage but becarful with windows key once you do it it will linked to your email and you cant remove it if as travel with crack software is not allowed and can get you huge fine if you staying in one place and dont care about that you are good to go

[@markvincentvalerio1465]

@@countrymanWayneis it free?

[@Rpplay876]

Honestly in my experience I’ve only had issues with my windows all the time it freezes and its sometimes slow i had to change it for a Chromebook because it had me behind on a week worth of school work 😢🙏

[@lukgamer3213]

You are not testing Mac Vs widows, you are testing Dell Vs Apple

[@amaruguadamuz2824]

A comparison with a surface laptop would be better and it would be a real windows vs Mac

[@itscutaru]

@@amaruguadamuz2824 I agree wholeheartedly

[@danidh]

@@amaruguadamuz2824this dell is better than most if not all surface laptops.. this comparison is better

[@KTibow]

now i know the boss wouldn't ever do this but it would be interesting if you installed linux on both and compared them then (also i find it interesting that price was mentioned but didn't show up on the scoreboard)

[@hyakikano7154]

Imo there are better laptops than the xps15 out for the same price or cheaper

[@Gamepunt_be]

On the security side you’re half right. Yes, Mac is far less susceptible to viruses and other attacks. BUT, once a Mac gets infected it’s an absolute horror show because there are also less tools and far less knowledge on how to remove nasty viruses from Macs. Oh and you should have gone with “a subscribe would be MACnificent” 🤭

[@game_time1633]

To be fair macos has very good tools to prevent it from getting to that stage at all which windows still needs to catch up on. To be honest, I don’t think it’s a lot more harder to remove viruses from macs than from windows at least from my perspective

[@kylekirby6424]

MacOS has a wonderful thing called SIP (System Integrity Protection). All system files are on a read only partition and cannot be modified. Not even by root. So your system will likely never become corrupt. Malware Bytes can removed the vast majority of malware on MacOS. And by default, MacOS won't even open an application if it isn't signed by Apple. And if you want to bypass that, the OS will still complain until you right-click and then click Open on the application. And on top of all this, if software wants to gain access to your files, you have to explicitly allow it. In Photoshop, if I save a file to a folder, then I get a pop up from the OS saying "Photoshop wants access to XYZ Folder, allow/deny". All of this is of course moot if someone finds a kernel level exploit, or some kind of exploit in the OS to gain system rights. Although, again, Apple has auto-patching of the system if they gain wind of an exploit like this. Once a fix is made, your machine will be patched right away, making you safe from it.

[@ronaldvanas9492]

Thats why linux is the best middle ground if you dont consider the stability...if you wanna mess with security, kali linux, or if normal desktop, ubuntu or mint OS@@game_time1633

[@JosephF.]

@@game_time1633 I mean, Windows has Smart App Control. What do you think they'd need to add? I think really on macOS, all that stops you is you need to really consciously consent to run a downloaded application ("You've downloaded this from the internet and it's from an untrusted developer, go to system preferences to allow this app to run"), but again, this exists on Windows too doesn't it?

[@indian-tech-support]

​@@game_time1633windows defender , windows safe mode. There are so many tools built in

[@OffMeta-Gaming]

My only problem is there isn't a lot of scientific reasoning for these. Like you said the displays were really similar but then have it to the Mac just because of resolution. There are still color accuracy, refresh rates and other things for almost every category you have set up.

[@BobRossRightHand]

He gave it to the mac because of resolution and better colors. Refresh rate is the same on both

[@fifaarw2998]

@@BobRossRightHand He gave it to the mac because he likes the mac and he is used to that screen

[@BobRossRightHand]

@@fifaarw2998Pretty sure he isn't using a Macbook Air so he wont be used to that screen, he gave it because of what I said

[@OffMeta-Gaming]

@@BobRossRightHand he never mentioned color just resolution and brightness! And again for other categories there are other subtleties that could go either way.

[@Bob-gm8nl]

@@OffMeta-Gaming The Macbook has better colour accuracy than the XPS; it doesn't really matter if he mentioned it or not.

[@rubenhemminga]

The font and graphic design in this video makes me cry

[@helenazrinski3679]

Windows 96’ vibes

[@mm2clips792]

This has to be just a joke right? There’s no way he already had the chart made for him and made an uglier one and used a worse font and weird sound effects. I am hoping this was just a big joke.

[@Supreet_callofdutymobile]

Exactly

[@furryharrycrt2190]

It's because his editor is Arun this vid

[@mm2clips792]

@@furryharrycrt2190 they did say at the beginning that he was going to be editing this video on the laptop he chose

[@ScienceGuy5610]

One issue I have with this video is that Arun should have played songs for the speaker tests cause if he only shows a video of him speaking for a speaker test, we would only be able to hear the high and mid range frequency performances of the speakers. In addition to that driver performance, sound detail, and bass etc are very important and to test that playing music would have been way better.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

I mean, i would choose Windows, because screw Apple Microsoft is a lesser evil though, I'll admit

[@AnEagle]

@@LavaCreeperPeople I mean, I would choose Linux, because screw Microsoft

[@blob0000]

He only wants you to watch his videos anyways😂

[@Squid.4572]

@@LavaCreeperPeople why?

[@404bidden]

Risks a copyright strike

[@sczoot6285]

The fact that unboxing is a point equal to performance is mind blowing

[@trowawayacc]

Yep, its kinda like choosing a car acording to how cool it looks, instead of focusing on repairability, gas millage and endurance. 😅

[@TheJimbles]

Yeah not ok. Otherwise a solid comparison.

[@Mr.Marbles]

@@trowawayaccnah its even worse. Since you do look at your car everyday, especially the interiour. You unbox once. Thats it.

[@jamfyx]

Right? I was also confused why he didn't give both of them a point. Both unboxings seem fine to me?

[@shuttze]

@@trowawayacc Its not kinda like that. Its like choosing a car according to how nice the showroom is. Its fucking ridiculous

[@i00Productions]

As a software developer compatibility is a big thing for me.. I have had macs in the past.. and they aren't even compatible with themselves, it seems that major OS updates frequently break various applications.. with Windows I have apps that I have written from the 90s that still continue to work even on Windows 11!

[@tejasraman6913]

Take GTK3. Ventura completely broke it to the point where apps that I'd written with GTK3 on macOS has some really weird issues on Ventura

[@Yayaloy9]

True, I couldn't run the backend that my old boss run at all, have to do alot of stupid hacky things with npm version and every packages of that project, that took me 2-3 days to configure, until I bought msyelf a window laptop, and could run it easily without having to configure anything except the npm version itself. And you can use WSL2 to develop web server on Linux for maximum compatibiliity!!!! How crazy is that??? You can even run Bash command on a cmd with WSL installed!!!! Like that's a deal breaker for me right there. I wish I don't need a mac to release fking IOS app. Hate that shit to the core.

[@sh1dori366]

Yes, because Microsoft doesn't get rid of the old libraries, which is great for compatibility, but also pretty bad for some developers. I heard a lot about how these libraries are a nightmare to work with. Also you can see how Microsoft doesn't get rid of some UI stuff and other things which were used for example on Windows 7. I am currently on Windows 11 but in some applications when I alt+tab I see Windows 7 UI show for a brief moment.

[@Squid.4572]

Wdym I’m running decade old Apps fine on mine.

[@LoFiAxolotl]

@@sh1dori366 Microsoft has very little to do with libraries nor would i know what libraries they offer other than some window hooks and some stuff in C# that nobody uses .Net is dead....the x86 & x64 architectures use pretty ancient structure... but unless you're programming in machine code that really doesn't concern you.... and neither MacOS nor Windows is written in Machine Code since they dropped the dependency on Dos & Unix

[@foodiepie9736]

Yeah, Joseph did the edits. 0:24 lol

[@PhoneRepairGuru]

Had to switch to mac for this very reason. It's just that much better when it comes to video editing. I Still use windows and almost exclusively use my macbook pro for editing. For everything else windows will always have my heart. .

[@TKOB614]

Yo sup prg im a big fan my dude

[@raisingcanesfirengl2921]

@@TKOB614same lol

[@NiqqaFella]

damn

[@fionairwin4269]

😀

[@lmsleepyy]

w prg

[@jaxay999]

i think there are some other windows laptop benefits you are forgetting about. To start, the number of options you have when buying a laptop means that, like android, you can get a device better suited for you. Additionally, you don't even have to use Windows on said laptop. Linux can get you that same level of integration that you might find on Mac, but will run faster and look better without needing to use the command line. Also, windows laptops have MUCH better upgradeability/repairability. If you really wanted to, you could buy a framework and swap out every single part, or even just a normal device and upgrade ram and ssd.

[@Azubi_Meatball4349]

I’ve noticed that many windows laptops are going less upgradeable

[@Musen-oq6nh]

​@@BobRossRightHandwhat do you mean that ipgradeability is the same for Windoes and Mac? You havent been able to upgrade anything on a Mac dince 2017 and I get that it isnt great on newer Windows but you can still get upgradeble and repaireble Windows machines. Sorry for spelling.

[@Samkesch006]

THAT!

[@DanIngham]

But not my Mac I can have windows and Linux all ready to boot whichever one I wish. I can run windows on my Mac, Linux or MacOS. So MacOS is the winner for me

[@checkerskd]

@@DanInghammodern macs cannot due this due to the ARM architecture. You can’t run windows natively on ARM. (I know windows for ARM exists but it’s nowhere near the same)

[@shinouske126]

There should be an added category for upgradability and repairability. Considering most users use their laptop for a long time, there will be issues with components, some might not be good enough for your current use case. Upgrading a laptop can make it last much longer, same goes for repairability. Thats where I think apple would get minus points, their repair costs are so high you might as well buy a new pc

[@PvtAnonymous]

you still can't upgrade CPU and GPU on the Windows machines though, so that argument goes right out of the window. RAM and storage are the only negatives and these don't actually increase performance which is needed as tasks get more demanding. On desktops, yes, full win. The desktop Macs don't even stand a chance.

[@agiverreviga4592]

​@@PvtAnonymous While you do have a point, RAM and SSD upgrades are still a huge thing for people who want longevity. RAM in some cases can help a lot with performance if you used to have 8/16GB and need more. It's also relieving to know you can upgrade your storage at any point you want, rather than having to get a brand new laptop just to upgrade to more SSD.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@agiverreviga4592 as someone working in the laptop repair industry, I can tell you from experience that very few people actually upgrade their computers. This is only a thing among tech-savvy people, everyday-consumers don't really care, even if they can upgrade every single component. Sad truth. Would be nice if you didn't have to go through such hassle with microsoldering to upgrade RAM and SSDs in Macs, but I honestly just buy the config I need from the start. No one complains about lack of upgradability in phones, so neither do I about computers.

[@anonylesss]

the only comment that matters here. but this channel is not very objective when it comes to "apple-fan-boyizm" . SSDs have lifetime span, try to replace one on a MAC - impossible

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@anonylesss it's not impossible, just very difficult.

[@ActualThreeDragoon712]

This was 9 months ago in 2023, we are 5 months into 2024.

[@itscutaru]

Honestly, the Mac vs Windows laptop depends a lot of type of workflow. By that i mean that if your work usually involves the same general task, with very minimal or no need for alternative software in the future, then if mac has it and you are already in the ecosystem, the discussion is practically over. However, when you have a workflow that involves a lot of new tools and experimenting constantly, you'd want that assured compatibility that windows offers, so you don't one day find out it doesn't work on your mac. That being said, I can't help but notice that you pitch this comparison for editing purposes, but then pivot to analyze stuff that's not really related to that, like the webcam. So you keep alternating between a pro user view and average joe one. And on that point, i find this comparison to have an Identity crisis, cause you're essentially comparing a device that has both its hardware and software from the same source to another where the OS is from Microsoft but the hardware is from Dell. And then bring up points of optimisation of OS on said device. I get the intention, but at this point you're not really genuinely comparing the devices themselves, but stating the obvious, that something will be more optimised if done by the same people. In all honesty, i feel this should have been with a Mac OS vs Windows comparison, analyzing the actual systems alone, OR have the Mac go against, at the very least, a Microsoft laptop, to at least have the possibility of comparing from the same starting line (referring to OS and Hardware being handled by same entity). I usually love your style of focusing on user experience a lot in your videos, but i feel that benefits more phones, where UX is arguably the biggest part of it. Because when it comes to laptops or computers in general, UX takes a step back for anyone who plans to use them for more than just the average office suite apps and net browsing, as at that point it's less about the UX of laptop itself and more about the capabilities of said apps. What i mean is, essentially, that you can't compare laptops in the same way you do phones, simply stating surface level stuff regarding the spec sheet and then just UX. Stuff like thermals, upgradability, none of which were addressed, are important. Now I don't mean nor want/expect you to go full Linus Tech Tips on analysing individual components. That's not my point. But things like: -presenting just one benchmark alone in regards to overall performance, when there's cases of some being overly optimised for Intel architecture, therefore may seem unfair to the Mac. (It can even be unfair for windows with an AMD CPU) - 0 mention of thermals, which is, arguably, one of the most important points for a laptop as that determines whether you'll even be able to use your system regardless of how optimised it is. I think this matters more than how loud or silent it is. -if we're talking video editing, actual export times Lack of these in a laptop match-up, even for general users, it makes it seem disingenuous in both directions, and I know you're not that kind of tech reviewer. Awaiting the next video. Cheers!

[@pranavagga]

You literally wrote nearly a video 🙌

[@itscutaru]

@@pranavagga for a short, most likely

[@alphamind1]

You've echoed my sentiments, i feel like most of these "Tech" youtubers doesn't really understand the technology itself and are good at reviewing spec sheet, adding to above, unlike iOS vs Android, usability matters significantly in personal computing space, for ex: for STEM based applications, Mac OS is practically useless. All the tech youtubers just try to generalize and measure performance based on creative workloads as if these machines were designed only for creative.

[@zenith3015]

Don't forget that the Arm Architechure and the X86 Architechure are not the the same Arm = less power consumption & less performance X86 = More performance & more power consumption Its this entire video is pretty to sum it up is Which is better a phone thats on a laptop chassis with the best phone Cpu or a premium laptop

[@itscutaru]

@@alphamind1 i wouldn't say that's bad by design necessarily. Like, I've always seen Arun and people with similar review styles as the 'tech KZbinr' for the average user' kind of person. Naturally, they'll attract people beyond the 'general user' group as well, that's a given. It's just that I felt he tried too much to apply the strategy of reviewing one product category to another without really taking into account that they require entirely different standards. In the sense that the average user of a laptop is way more technologically apt, and therefore has expectations of things beyond looking and feeling nice, than the average user for a phone, simply due to the more complex nature of a laptop. In a more extrapolate sense, it'd be like if JerryRigEverything, who started making videos related to cars here and there would go and test the durability of a screen the car has in the center console, to see how it scratches, for example, cause he does that for phones. It's not as relevant in the grand scheme of things. Or, in the opposite direction, a KZbinr reviewing a car and not once mentioning fuel consumption, in the same way this video, for some reason, avoided the topic of temperatures and high sustained load.

[@zirconium5849]

When considering Windows laptops, it's important to note that the Dell XPS 15 isn't the only option available. For example, Framework Laptops have a modular design that allows for individual components to be upgraded, such as RAM, storage, and even the CPU. This feature extends the lifespan of the laptop and keeps it current with the latest technology, giving it an advantage over Macs which are notoriously difficult to upgrade. In addition to its modular design, Framework is dedicated to sustainability and reducing electronic waste. They also offer a transparent supply chain, which is uncommon in the tech industry. While Macs have their strengths, the flexibility, sustainability, and transparency of Framework Laptops make them a compelling choice.

[@jaxay999]

replying on a framework :)

[@rere8721]

Was this comment written by a Framework representative using ChatGPT?

[@aquaponieee]

​@@rere8721no, framework is actually amazing

[@onerebertt]

@@rere8721 probably lmao

[@Coolgamertag120]

I have a framework 13 running ubuntu and it's great!

[@archmagexiv]

Keep in mind that Mac puts their BIOS on the SSD, and you can't replace the ssd. So when your storage drive dies, your computer turns into a paperweight, with no way to boot into an external drive or replace the SSD. Louis had a video recently about this

[@kiradotee]

Hi fellow ROSSMANN REPAIR GROUP follower 👋

[@SaurikSI]

This is more or less right, but misleading (And I did watch Louis’ video. If the SSD dies (Which is a common problem with the 2019 MacBook Pro, DEFINITELY DON’T buy that) the computer doesn’t turn into a paperweight, unless you don’t want to send it to Apple or one of their third party repair options if Apple isn’t on your country, you can’t repair it yourself but Apple can definitely replace the SSD. So basically, if you don’t want to send it to Apple for a repair, that’s fine, but then don’t cry because “My computer is a paperweight”.

[@MXCN_El1011]

for 99% of people yeah, but technically there does appear to be a way around this. Luke Miani just had a vid w/ dosdude where they were able to replace the ssd chips on a mac studio and flash a new bios on them to upgrade the storage to 2tb. involves soldering which is why is said technically, but it seems possible.

[@visualbree]

That's bad

[@mannnnuuu]

@@SaurikSI but it kinda feels wrong on Apple side

[@Magmacube71]

Josef casually flexing his jawline 5:02

[@KyawTayZa-qi1wj]

FR

[@True69.]

Bro changed the title from 2023 to 2024 💀💀

[@tejaskaushikofficial]

Ya I also saw that lol😂

[@thedislikebutton1907]

Expected from this piece of ship

[@L8_nght]

@@thedislikebutton1907 tf you say

[@Ratgodx]

@@L8_nghtyou fucking heard him.

[@EngineeriumEnergy]

@@thedislikebutton1907 how is he a 'piece of ship'

[@theodoros_1234]

One very important factor for me is upgradeability/repairability. Today's Macs have everything soldered in and paired, even the SSD, which is a component that wears out with use over time. On a Mac you're screwed if the SSD fails, whereas on pretty much every other laptop you can just buy another M.2 SSD and replace it easily by yourself. I want a device that I actually own, not one where every component is soldered and paired, and the manufacturer is actively trying to prevent me from repairing it or doing whatever else I want to do on my own device. EDIT: This is why Framework's offerings are very appealing to me. If they're available in my region by the time I need my next upgrade, I'm buying one!

[@skygaz3r]

Honestly, the number one reason I won’t get a Mac laptop, it’s 2023 and we can do better!

[@willy7968]

The only thing u can upgrade in most slim sized windows laptops is the ssd Which you can expand with a thunderbolt ssd on MAC. When it comes to laptops, battery, performance, not dissipating heat, Mac takes the lead. Mac trackpad has no competition. I have a business laptop from dell and M1 MacBook pro. The comfort of using the mac on my lap and no need to worry about constant charging is unbeatable for me.

[@iCrackr]

@@willy7968 The Mac fanboy everyone

[@cldn2]

Dude, a lot of Windows laptops are becoming fully-soldered too lol @@iCrackr

[@jco409]

This loses the Mac big time. Won't get a Msc unless company provided one.

[@EmyNN]

While it's easy to agree with this video, it still boils down to what a user wants. I can't help but feel this was a battle between Apple and Dell instead of Windows which is a tough one. There are 2-in-1s, ultra portables, gaming machines, desktops, touchscreens too just on the windows side alone and these will make me go Windows every single time.

[@JiicoZ]

Keep in mind how overpriced Mac’s are. Macs also have 2 in ones, desktops, etc, but they’re overpriced as hell. Even WHEELS for the desktop are $600 where I live

[@hamzahdumar9092]

Soo true!

[@mrrobot56]

If you go through all his videos, you'll understand that this man is an Apple's agent. He even argues for dumb iphones,

[@erikthecraft]

there are no 2in1 macs. 2in1s are laptops with 360 flip touch screens@@JiicoZ

[@erikthecraft]

@@mrrobot56 yes, just take a look at the points he mentions (unboxing, speakers, webcam)

[@christiaanfalk9648]

“And it starts now” shoulder not edited out 0:24😭😂

[@russellchung3119]

I have a Mac and came from a Windows machine. One thing I'll say is that for me Windows just makes so much more "sense" in some ways. Like the mechanics for switching chrome windows is so much harder on mac. Or like how Finder doesn't organize ut files symmetrically when ur on the icons setting.

[@ghadeershaaya]

Windows to Mac switcher here and I totally agree with you. Adding to what you said I miss having the taskbar and the ability to peak into minimized applications.

[@dannybrocool8268]

As a Mac user that has used some windows computers i have experienced the same thing nice to know someone sees this.

[@christianj252]

Nice to see i'm not alone. Mac is infuriatingly difficult to use.

[@architdewan6717]

@@ghadeershaayaWA❤AA

[@architdewan6717]

@@ghadeershaaya😊🎉😊😊😊😊🎉😂😂a

[@fositz1358]

The Dell XPS 15 doesn't represent all Windows laptops as there is a lot, and they can very drastically. That is a great benefit to Windows (and others), you aren't just stuck with three or four choices. Also with the display category what about color?

[@mariokartfan8784]

Bingo

[@leonhardscholtyssek]

And that the Mac Display is Glossy, which is pretty bad in bright light

[@thatguy.0124]

funny i went to the store and got my self a legion slim 7i with i7-13700h and a rtx 4070 with 165hz qhd display and i just used it side-side with my brothers mb13 while the trackpad of mb is defintelty unmatched the rest is a solid . like without any specialized optimisation adobe results are good and a full load of sot last about 4 hours is well . i played forza on high settings and managed to get 4 hrs to multimedia could get me somewhere 10-12 hrs. so i think win laptops are good but since we are talking about proffesional video editing and adobe made it apple then Arun is Right here.

[@epicsaves5644]

​@@thatguy.0124Adobe is not just about video editing. There are dozens of other softwares they offer in different fields. Mac has an advantage only in video rendering times. Everything else is the same. How is mac going to win in Photoshop and Illustrator? My legion never missed a beat using any Adobe software. So talk about videos only, not Adobe suite as a whole.

[@thatguy.0124]

@@epicsaves5644 yeah my point sorry i deviated i mean only video editiing, stuff like blender and unreal are much faster on win

[@contemplatingrain2380]

Gonna be honest with you Arun, there are better Windows laptops you can get for that same $1600. Wouldn't really put this as an apples to apples comparison.

[@komediwata]

With the same dimension?

[@xtechtips152]

Yes...I was like bruh you chose such a generic laptop for 1600

[@G0atedDigbarrrr]

Your right it’s a apples to windows conversation 🤡🤡🤡

[@brihecato6626]

Someone has to be the sponsor of the video (apple)

[@yashirou618]

Dude could have bought a gaming laptop wit 1600 with literally better specs. I was like, Dell vs Macbook? bruhh... theres tons of other brands out there better than the macbook

[@Edison_plays_vr]

Wow the title sucks this was made and uploaded in 2023 not 2024

[@subaruandroid48]

finally someone noticed

[@stefiash]

Exactly, I'd be interested to hear about the macbook air m3 16gb ram version

[@rand504]

My only problem with these sorts of comparisons is that it doesn't take into account how important something is, for example I wouldn't say that the unboxing experience is nearly as important as the performance of a computer, yet they are both still worth 1 point each. I understand that for the sake of simplicity it's easier to compare both of them, but I don't think that you can say you have a "winner" based on whichever machine has more points.

[@RonaldoHater777]

I am better than Mrwhostheboss, My content is better!🤡🤓🤡🤓

[@ToadyEN]

Yeah you inbox it once, and then it’s in the storage or bin. Good to have a nice unboxing experience at the cost but isn’t important. If you’re getting it for work / from work you’ll most likely get it unboxed anyway.

[@Mrwhosetheboss]

the winner isn't based on the number of points!

[@Helo_Watch]

​@@RonaldoHater777ur not

[@hityouwiththatdduddudu]

​@@Mrwhosethebosshi Mr

[@Yoshi-sp]

I think that at the end of the day, it depends on the workflow. If I was, for example, a graphic designer that travels a lot or prefers to show results to clients in meetings, I would choose a Mac. But in my case, I'm an industrial automation programmer, I use a lot of VMs and software that only runs on windows, so I don't care too much about color accuracy and prefer performance, storage, if it's upgradeable and I also like gaming. So both are good if it fits your workflow.

[@VerzionFX]

yeah i agree, you could use a vm for your mac to have windows and mac, but if u use windows as your main, its very hard for you to have a macos vm. totaly agree.

[@thebloo12]

Exactly!! Also lots of niche software only has support for windows. Mac is a great os overall though, just not for me.

[@lukefrahn8538]

yes. for the use case in this video it's all about software compatibility, followed by the editors preference for working efficiently

[@allsides5626]

I mean it depends in graphics as well over time... Final cut definitely works like a beast on the system but I'm a da Vinci resolve user, for me it doesn't give it's best over time.

[@Sap_ak]

I think windows is better for graphics designing…

[@Fieldy_HD]

FYI. If you press and hold in the green ‘maximise’ icon on macs you can snap them to half screen on quarters also. You don’t need to adjust manually.

[@bassamshtaya]

Yeah as a Mac user that was what I was thinking

[@eugenn2848]

That's not the same.

[@sivur]

Or just use rectangle and snap to your hearts content.

[@neilnair5388]

Still not the level of freedom windows offer…i mean its in the name….the level of freedom and ease to play with app windows is staggering

[@PsyberSenpai]

@@neilnair5388 FYI Microsoft patented the window snapping feature, so Mac can't offer it legally without relying on 3rd party devs like Rectangle.

[@cam-y2c]

buddy was gargling apples meat the entire video

[@OMGanger]

I was really hoping this video would be about the difference between the OSs since that is the far more deciding factor for user experience

[@thehamium]

Then, they could've had a 2009 windows machine and iBook to compare the OSes then. That's not the idea of the video. The sole purpose is what their *markets* offer. Though, they did cover major stuff between the two OSes, so (insert shrug emote). I don't think a 2009 windows machine with Windows 11 & an iBook compared could have the same experience as the flagship laptops they've compared here.

[@whynot7897]

That shouldn't even be a factor when both machines can run both os's, also this is about laptops

[@OMGanger]

@@whynot7897 Could say the machines aren’t a factor for the same reason. Hopefully he does a follow up on OSs

[@whynot7897]

@OMGanger you can't day that because when it comes to laptops, power efficiency is what makes a laptops good, this is what Apple exceeds at

[@CarPitStop]

the title is "Windows vs Mac"@@whynot7897

[@alexanderbjerking8508]

The compatability point is a complete deal breaker for Mac for me. Fun story for a programming exam I had this year one of my classmates who uses Mac couldn't do the assignment that he randomly got because the program didn't work on Mac.

[@justjack3075]

Ios software sucks on too many levels...

[@justjack3075]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@solsang its coding exam and it requires simple software it has nothing to do with hardware 😂 Porting to Mac is impossible in many cases because ios is years behind in development

[@_chaitanyajoshi]

With simple coding Mac is the go to though. Everbody uses it

[@VojtechMach]

I had the exact opposite experience. Mac at least runs bash out of the box. You have to fiddle with cygwin or the stupid wsl to get bash on windows. Same thing with C programming. C compilers are just not compatible with windows by default.

[@wolfiy]

@@justjack3075 Actually we had similar issues in uni. Because of how some features were implemented on the macos version of software we had to use bugs were introduced. In the end, they just gave us pre-configured Linux VMs.

[@knownstone]

To be honest, upgradability and less or no anti-repair mechanism is the best view of Windows side

[@legendaerycraft2226]

Not really, I think the best is performance. With that i mean gaming performance. If you want to game, windows is your best choice.

[@TDVeldora]

I'm surprised he didn't talk about repairability or upgradability.

[@thebloo12]

​@@TDVeldorasame, a big deal for me tbh

[@ThatStepmaniaGuy]

​@@TDVeldoraYou know why he didnt. Apple is always watching. They'll cut this boy off that payroll if they lost this lmao

[@knownstone]

@@ThatStepmaniaGuy Being able to repair makes you able to use your device for a longer time, and Apple just wants you to get a new one. That's their way of profit.

[@deadlyredly1]

If you have the slightest interest in your laptop doing "everything" - Windows. If you wanna do video editing etc, still Windows. Why do people insist on paying a premium for a minimum spec and non upgradeable product?

[@IonutE]

It is also important to mention that the XPS also has an OLED display variant. I have one and I can say it's absolutely mental.

[@markmolenaar4479]

I fully agree, but that option makes it quite a bit more expensive unfortunately. At that price point you are competing with the MacBook Pro, which also has a stunning XDR display. Also, I find that the OLED drains the battery a bit faster

[@SalmanKhan-ql5kx]

I have the HP Envy x360 13.3 OLED... It has the exact same resolution as the Mac here, and having used both side-by-side in store before making my purchase, I don't think I can ever go to a non-OLED laptop any more. The picture quality, the deep blacks, the colour difference is just insane.

[@TrioLOLGamers]

@@markmolenaar4479 oled is just oled, with its advantages and drawbacks, but it is not comparable with any screen with backlight... Apple in this case (max) obviously tries to make the image more "contrasty" to make it look better while the screen has still backlight and glooming rtifacts compared to calibrated screens. Still a good screen, but not the best.

[@Mach1n-is-at-lvl-60]

yes but its a 400$ option, he wanted to compare at the same price, and with this increase you would have compared to macbook pro, but it has 120hz vrr mini led that can arguabely be better than dell's oled

[@Marco-cg7fb]

yes and apple also has the macbook pro m1 pro at the same price as this, which is just better in every way, but he still chose that variant of it. though i do say the oled version of the dell is heeeeeeps more expensive and therefor not really a condender in this comparison

[@kittu5954]

I feel this is one of those videos which is heavily influenced by arun's preferences. Dell does not represent the windows community and its sad to see such comparison. There are many laptops out there that can easily beat the mac in every category

[@TGBC]

Completely agree

[@affieuk]

Never had a personal mac, did for work and after a little a short while got annoyed and installed Windows via bootcamp. That being said name me one Windows laptop that can compete with the same level of performance, plugged in and not, power efficiency and long battery times.

[@8ball708]

At the same price range, I don't think there are any computers that beat the mac in "every category." There are always tradeoffs.

[@Nornfang]

As a man working in the tech industry, let me assure you a Mac is better for software development is every way. You could give me $3000, and I’d still buy two Mac’s. Coding on a windows machine is a pain the ass.

[@magnus9316]

@@Nornfangyeah and tbh for a professional workflow its the only laptop with a lot power thats still pleasant to work with. A workstation with windows that matches the benchmarks is just too loud, big and has no battery life

[@akumayoxiruma]

Compatibility is a major factor, not just in software: As a windows user, I always found it easy to connect my device to beamers, smartboards, various sticks, cables and devices to exchange data with. Whereas with Apple, it's always a gamble and most of the time, I would have to install a specific programme on each device to allow data transfer, have a specific adapter which may not even work and be prepared to not be able to execute the programme. Essentially, Windows and Android can both simulate Apple and work with any device; vice-versa not so much.

[@eliasbutcher859]

In my office we have MacBooks and some power boards, everything seems to work great with which ones they chose, I also have a smart TV at home that supports airplay. What we do run into is that there needs to be usb-c to ethernet adaptors despite us all having 'pro' models. Not sure if it's worth mentioning but we use Chrome :/

[@marlo8850]

@@MultiTacs what about the 50% of the price you paid being a gift to apple? Imagine a Laptop half the price could have done everything you needed it to do, I use a 700 bucks Gaming Laptop and as long as there is a power outlet (basically everywhere I go, even on the train) I have all the performance in the World thanks to an I7 and an RTX2070 as well as 2 Upgradable SSD slots and 2 Upgradable Ram slots. I have a guy next to me and hes using an M1 Macbook Pro and the only difference is style and mine gets a Numpad and a bigger screen, everything else is just the same, except he cant run games. And I get an ethernet port and an HDMI port, while he needs to borrow my USB C Hub

[@Frzned9x]

imagine having to work as the tech support for a companies with printers made from the 2000s and bosses came in with their shiny new Mac and you have to tell them they just aint gonna work lmao.

[@JB-DJ]

Mrwhoestheboss, tommyinnit is now gaining on YOU now!

[@gudoskytv4959]

😂

[@jjhbball]

This isn’t windows vs Mac. This is xps vs MacBook.

[@kspianoguy0930]

Well said

[@autumn6725]

as an editor myself, i feel that there's a HUGE room for improvement, the thing that Is bothering me most are the linear keyframes

[@yehonatanabo]

its not only that- i dont know whether its on purpose or not but the entire video looks like its made by a little kid! i mean who the heck uses comic sans these days lmao.

[@woutvleugels1424]

Im not an editor at all but I feel the same way, everything about the editing seems clumsily put together, especially the fonts and arrows used in the vid

[@IdentifiantE.S]

@@yehonatanaboYes 😂

[@josephbenjamin2934]

The editing used to be brilliant. What happened?

[@autumn6725]

@@josephbenjamin2934 the guy they were getting these laptops for is the only one editing the video, he is a beginner so its not the best but I feel its gonna get better with time considering the skill of the other editors

[@Sadiinso]

The lack of a window tiling manager is one of the only thing I really miss on macOS compared to Windows 11 (which really nails it, especially combined with powertoys)

[@wadravor9jahren748]

There are a ton of apps for it. Better Touch Tool is one of them. It also allows you to costumize alot of other things on your Mac.

[@Sadiinso]

@@wadravor9jahren748 I am currently using rectangle, but it doesn't play that well with stage manager and multi monitors setups sadly :/ I thought Apple would at least improve SM a bit on macOS 14 but apparently not x)

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@wadravor9jahren748 +1 for BetterTouchTool. One of the best pieces of software ever written. Just the amount of trackpad gestures is reason enough to buy it, everything else is just icing on the cake.

[@andrsz3119]

Actually mac has the same or better third party solutions for this issue.

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@andrsz3119That's a stupid argument. If we're going to argue capabilities that will win out with third party software, then Windows absolutely destroys MacOS with its insanely bigger library.

[@Mertiven]

0:24 that floating hand

[@yolomcswag0]

And his shoulder lol

[@AryxGame]

Ikr 😂

[@The_Terminator065]

Good job

[@peabarter_3074]

More stellar content from Mrwhostheboss as always

[@MrShjBoy]

I think if you made the comparison score based rather than win/lose it would be more fair, especially for the categories they were very close at.

[@LucidSnapshots]

Terrible conmparison anyways. Underspecs the XPS. Wants performance but specs the gaming screen rather than the OLED and doesnt go for the Graphics upgrade .. idk

[@ameralmutawa5017]

In some areas I hear better things on dell device but give them a draw where as for 1 minor thing he calls the win to Mac. This comparison is sus

[@areldcookie5581]

Nah, he just doesn't know anything about real computer, lol. His entire life is on phone and small tech

[@mazin5584]

Rephrase. your comment makes absolutely no sense

[@areldcookie5581]

@@catboy3471 @catboy3471 I didn't even know that he's saying how good Mac is. I'm just mad about how he tries so hard to be relevant in the computer world but doesn't have enough information and good value in his video anymore. He just talks and makes effects but no actual focus on the topic anymore. Not like before. Because he knows people want to hear his voice only, even if it's stupid stuff. His short is mostly like that. (I don't know why you are defensive about Mac so much LMFAO thats not even my point)

[@Thefishyperson]

Arun with power brick: "It's like carrying an extra gadget with you!" Arun a few minutes later: "I'd recommend you get an ergonomic keyboard and mouse"

[@noobmaster1231]

Also gives a point to the worst feeling keyboard on a laptop🤡

[@CJBorja_157]

@@noobmaster1231 that part made me justify how decisions are made, still a goodvideo btw

[@noobmaster1231]

@@CJBorja_157 haha yeahhh.. a $2 keyboard would feel better than that thing tbh😭

[@saln1296]

He was talking about using the keyboard and mouse when home, wasn't that obvious?

[@tafadzwabero6091]

Hahaha the graphics killed me in this video! The noticeable difference of the usual Arun graphics and the 2D graphics in this was cool.

[@takacsandras1135]

Dell XPS vs 16 generation Mac is not fair! The Mac is newer! (Just the Mac’s version is older.) And Windows is better than MacOS! So the crown has windows!

[@NotAgnor]

Edit: GUYS OMG ITS A JOKE 😂 Did you think Arun would let the invisibility thing go in his video lmao A couple things I’ve noticed on the editing Biggest one is the text for me, mainly the font. It’s now comic sans which is more of a meme font, whereas it used to stand out in the video, be more aesthetically pleasing colour wise and use plain white translucent for the meme text There’s also a couple of odd transitions like the star one towards the start of the video. There’s also not much visual stuff, it’s more minimalist, removing the counter and timer. When showcasing the editing at around the 14 minute mark, there were some odd choices, the pixelation and an odd clip of a frame at 14:53, just looked a bit strange to me, especially with the gradient on the side At 0:24 the invisibility thing didn’t work at all imo, it looked a bit clunky, given the screen on the plate shot didn’t match the colour and the shoulder is still visible. Also didn’t really see the point of that. Can also still see Jozef in the back after receiving the mac which looked a bit awkward but that’s not part of the editing Overall it’s quite nice though, not too different but also refreshing!

[@chunkygrumpy7561]

Josef's shoulder can still be seen at 0:23.

[@merbudd]

Well he's obviously going to get better over time, and also he ABSOLUTELY chose comic sans specifically for the memes

[@rishitdivyam]

Exactly my comment is this the first time I saw an editing mistake in Arun's vid?? at 0:23 . Okay I completed the video just now, who edited this video, this looks like absolute newbie, the fonts? The colors? The stroke? the transition? What is going on? Where is the original editor???

[@NotAgnor]

@@chunkygrumpy7561 yeah that looked a bit clunky, given the screen on the plate shot didn’t match the colour

[@MisterMustardIsDumb]

i am pretty sure all of this is a satire bit guys.

[@bardoomguy]

I went with a Windows desktop because I could get a more powerful GPU and 4x the storage for the price of a similarly priced Mac. Knowing that it'll run pretty much every piece of software is also a bonus. I have a lousy Windows laptop that I could see myself switching out with a cheap Macbook air, to take with me on travels and such. Both are fine and have their pros and cons

[@mikelthewug]

Just don't buy the entry-level M2 MBA. The SSD is problematic and you may do better with the M1 which is actually on sale at Best Buy right now for $ 750.

[@bardoomguy]

@@mikelthewug yes that's the reason I didn't go for the m2 air when it was on sale here recently. M3 will be 3nm, so I'll wait and see how that one turns out

[@mikelthewug]

@@bardoomguy Great! Me too!

[@Aaronxxi]

Just buy a cheap windows ultrabook, all mac laptops are overpriced for what they offer, windows will always be the better choice

[@bardoomguy]

@@Aaronxxi which laptop is a better value than the m1 macbook air? I can't think of one

[@harigamedev]

13:49 if you hold on the green button that is used to make the screen bigger, it will give you a drop down menu to choose left or right like halfscreens

[@DeltaYtS]

On windows you just hover on the minimise button and a similar menu comes in, with options for what apps we want on the screen and where, at the same time

[@rayyanshaikh5591]

yoo thank you

[@R.Z.2024]

Anyone gonna talk about the fact that he made a “2024” review in August *2023?*

[@disteve9854]

@@R.Z.2024 ikr. kind of an ass move

[@freeshipping9643]

I like the way you put a key light on yourself & put your boy in the shade.

[@myleonisd]

That's the way he acts with guests. Worst one is the video about the "giant iPhone". He took all the credit, the guinness record but wasn't even the one who built it.

[@Subz182]

A lot of the plus points you gave for Mac become huge negatives for me. The fact that its a regulated system etc really make it unusable for me. I have to use a Macbook and iPhone for work and I have the same complaints about both. My thoughts usually come down to "well its my device, I should be able to do what I want with it.". I hate the fact that I can't do simple tasks with my device because Apple decided I wouldn't want to.

[@Idler81643]

What wouldn't you be able to do on a Mac?

[@Subz182]

@@Idler81643 A lot of it is hardware related. Once its out of date you're screwed. With Windows if I want to stick some more RAM in, upgrade the GPU or anything hardware related you can. From a software perspective, there are a lot of apps that just don't have a Mac version. Not much Apple can do about that but it still is a reason why I prefer Windows. Compatibility with my Android phone is a must too. The ability to copy and paste between Windows and Android is something I use daily.

[@PsyberSenpai]

What simple tasks can you not do that Apple decided you cannot do?

[@ghausullah6433]

@@PsyberSenpailike on iPhone, when i turn on the hotspot, why would it automatically turn it of in a minute.Yes it definitely makes sense, but i dont want it to do it, it should be on for as long as i want, because its my device, i have paid for it, but no, apple has decided. And thats it. This is only example of basic things, and there are alot more too

[@Ghost.Kingslayer]

​@@Idler81643Unfortunately lack the ability to install the majority of these well-known PC game titles.

[@jalilboy6145]

My last MacBook was the MacBook Pro 15" 2015 which is still going strong today. The problem with the latest MacBook is the non replaceable SSD, which made me thinking of buying Dell XPS 15 with its dual slot NVME and replaceable RAM. The service manual is also provided by Dell themselves which I think good for the longevity of the product. Great video btw, but I think repairability is also an important aspect to be covered especially if you plan to use the device for a long time.

[@tones1983]

Don't forget trying to get a battery from Apple as well it's Like pulling teeth 😅

[@simon-df9wh]

Yes apple don't want you to improve your MacBook, or even repair it, they are only want you to replace it, with a newer model as they are only interested in your cash.

[@doctahjonez]

I got the last one that can be upgraded with SSD/RAM lol

[@-duck]

i mean in terms of replaceability framework laptops are probably the best because you can replace everything down to even the motherboard and you can switch out the ports for the ones you want

[@raphmateus]

It seems it really comes down to what you need to do on the machine. I use both, mac at work, windows at home. For every day business use... Mac just takes the upper hand when a big portion of the day is actually online meetings, the battery life is really nice too. Terminal on mac + everything that works natively vs switching to wsl on windows all the time is a big difference if you're affected by it for work. All the other details that makes setting up certain tools easier gives the mac the edge. However, as soon as you need something that is not supported on Mac.... Or simply for everything else: file system, interaction with anything other than apple products, window management, multitasking, gaming, feeling that the computer is tailored for yourself, up and coming Copilot integration etc. Windows just takes the win every single day..

[@dijital4801]

Exactly if you're gaming then macs just aren't a viable option, you're better off with a PC or at least a gaming laptop

[@journeywithjesus]

Is it possible to use PowerPoint, Excel and word on Mac?

[@techusernetworld3003]

@@journeywithjesus Yes. Absolutely. There is Mac version of Microsoft Office. The layout of menus and such stuff will look more like Mac thing. That is all.

[@Jparkss]

I agree with this. I owned a windows laptop until my senior year of hs and still have my desktop that runs windows. I used my Mac all through my four years of college it’s been great for school work and using the cloud to transfer files from my computer to my iPhone. I would say for gaming definitely windows is better if the day to day it really is up to you with if you like windows a lot and based on price cause the surface as a lot of cheaper options whereas Mac’s you would need to get used. I own the 2017 MacBook Pro and it’s good but definitely can see the age of the tech and battery going down

[@henlohenlo689]

ipad mini 6 limits my ability to be in control of file management my samsung and windows is more control to move around files. to me this is a pretty big deal. i lose control if they force me to do ut through their apps. i miss my simple lg g4 phone 1 tb of storage space on sd card. and i was in full control of file management. and it had good speakers for a phone. and cheap price tag. it is discontinued i cant find any more to buy.

[@hagridsbeardguy1399]

I have nothing except for your videos to go on - but I feel like working on the Mrwhosetheboss team would be a fun and epic experience being an ICT professional who studied post-production myself with a borderline obsession surrounding anything tech-related. Great video! Thanks :D

[@rahul77j]

i think the list must include repairability, Storage upgrades and longevity.

[@IdentifiantE.S]

Yes !

[@jivy-has-a-life]

mac wins in longevity, they last forever

[@pepehimovic3135]

The only thing mac is beating in longevity are

[@Duncan9910]

Ye

[@jackinthebox1817]

​@@jivy-has-a-lifehahahaha nice joke

[@imrannn06]

The overall video quality is has improved but I still prefer the previous editor over the new one , his way to dropping texts and transitions is way better and the font he uses is really good , i prefer the previous one . That is the production quality which separates you from other youtubers, don't let it vanish

[@fredericoduvel3092]

I don’t think that’s going to be the default editing style from now on. It feels purposely exaggerated (with the, let’s call them pop ups) to remind the viewer that he is editing it. The focus is on the editor. In the future they will focus on Aaron and will use less distracting visuals.

[@stephenw5488]

Some comments have mentioned this already, but I think the unnoticed deciding factor between these usually comes down to *familiarity*!! Many people don’t want to learn a whole new operating system, even if it might be better than the one they know

[@adityachauhan7245]

exactly, very well said!

[@Itskaidaorangeguy2017]

@@adityachauhan7245I’ve used a windows computer all my life, and besides windows 7 it’s been a nightmare. but Mac sounds like a dream, glad I’m getting one soon. Edit: I LOVE IT

[@darthwolfius7746]

Not necessarily, I'm a windows user from youth, but I always wanted to experience macos and when I had the chance I bought a MacBook Pro, still prefer windows for most of the taks, the MacBook I use it more for travel or documents, movie on bed, etc. And Windows for hard work.

[@horridohobbies]

@@darthwolfius7746 I've bounced between Windows and MacOS, and now I'm on Linux (Mint). Familiarity just doesn't matter to me (I'm a retired software engineer). I'm really liking Linux. To be honest, though, my PC usage is pretty basic - I mainly use it for web browsing. For some image and video editing, GIMP and Kdenlive are fine.

[@synotheman]

@@darthwolfius7746yupp. I have a great (in 2017 at least) windows desktop, but a MacBook Pro as a laptop. Honestly, it’s just the best of both worlds. Most things that you do in windows gain a lot from it being a desktop instead of a laptop (anything that’s graphic intensive, for example). The extra power allows you to do so many more things that just wouldn’t be feasible to do with a laptop. However, when it comes to a laptop that you need to bring everywhere you go, the MacBook really is the way to go. Unless you need to do anything that is only available on windows (like gaming), the MacBook will likely perform better. But as I said, unless it’s for work, having both a windows desktop and a MacBook allows you to get the best of both worlds (even if it might be a bit expensive)!

[@milliganout]

Just to let people know, NEVER buy a Lenovo computer. The hardware is horrible, I bought one and the hinge cracked and I couldn’t open it, so I bought another one and it cracked again. Repair people couldn’t fix it because they were backed up with people with the same problem 😢

[@rahulkhatri137]

This video misses the character that I used to see in older ones. The whole video used to have a consistent theme from font ,colour to effects 😢 It just felt weird for the 1st time watching a video that hasn't it's own character also for some reason he didn't choose transparent artifacts instead with background making them a Box style which is weird again to see on this channel 😅 11:42 Wait nothing changed 😢

[@meenasagaria2272]

he's purposely edited that way, its a joke

[@andrewosullivan8992]

I always love Arun's videos, and he had managed to convince me on his main points on every video he has ever made. I'm going to be honest, this one just kind of missed in my opinion. I'm not sure if windows was really done justice with that XPS, and he didn't really touch on how quickly Macs age compared to PCs software wise. The list goes on and on. Anyways, I think they're both good for their own reasons. Video/photo, creative work: Mac. Everything else: Windows.

[@sahilsrivastava6281]

Bro his name is Arun not Aaron 😂

[@devoneriggins7285]

My base model 2013 MacBook Pro lasted 9 years. And the only thing holding it back was RAM. I could still do light tasks no problem. Not bad for a base model. So what do you mean they age badly?

[@andrewosullivan8992]

@sahilsrivastava6281 oops... Ok maybe the Mac keyboard is better lol.

[@andrewosullivan8992]

@devoneriggins7285 Good to hear. My freind has had her 2010 macbook pro since it was released and it has been really good to her besides the battery (which is to be expected) The hardware itself doesn't seem to be an issue (although modern macbooks have some pretty nasty anti repair tactics- see Hugh Jeffreys channel) its more the software updates they receive, and security, compatibility, and software operatization degrading over time. What forced her to upgrade was her photo editing platforms no longer being supported on her older mac. With windows you can just keep upgrading until your hardware simply can't run the OS smoothly anymore.

[@Nerd-O-Matic]

@@devoneriggins7285 My family have a 2009 MacBook Pro. It’s still going. In fairness, it’s update support was ended long ago, and we don’t use it for very much other than storage, but on the occasions that I have used it, I could make a simple PowerPoint, and play a couple of (undoubtedly laggy) games.

[@caleidoo]

4:50 That webcam comparison was ridiculous. The Mac clearly had a white window open on screen or the room was completely lit up: there was no shadows on your face, your faces were evenly lit. While the Dell only had some light hitting your faces from the side - so a dark screen or brightness at its lowest. Or a darker room.

[@ashjaylk]

THIS, thanks god someone noticed that. He did that on purpose for sure.

[@alaminumfoil]

@@ashjaylk hm.. I rekon u should buy it yourself and then test it yourself since you love complaining

[@ashjaylk]

@@alaminumfoil Eh? Isn't the purpose of reviewing something to help me decide whether I should buy it or not? How can I make that decision when the reviewer becomes biased? seems like a Mrwhosetheboss fanboy got triggered; lol

[@charlilaurenmiller]

Same I felt this review was a bit biased. Like 140 to 150 ?? Not that bad.

[@atlj85]

Dell's webcam is placed on the bottom which makes it harder for me to have the right face angle when using zoom. The webcam placement on Dell is the number one reason why I hesitate to purchase Dell laptop.

[@bruhcomeon44]

My brother, 15, now has a Windows 11 and i am happy for him.

[@LukeMettamGaming]

Since 2018 I have been using both a windows and Mac laptop. In my experience mac became slower quicker and is a lot more difficult to use day to day. Battery life was similar with about 6 hours of usage. I also prefer the keyboards and trackpads on windows laptops, Mac’s don’t seem to register some of the keys I press if I type quickly. Also apps seem to work more fluently on windows.

[@hamzakanth2347]

andriod and windows user always cry and comment like this everytime when apple wins, and the fact is they never used any ios device but they still hate them however apple is way ahead of any andriod and windows

[@peeptveesti]

​@@hamzakanth2347Bro he literally said that he has used a Mac For years. All you Apple bootlickers Are the Same. Praise your overpriced phones and computers when they win and cry For hours when the Cheaper more customizable stuff wins.

[@Catonwatermelown]

@@hamzakanth2347 you literally just described yourself

[@BobRossRightHand]

We have the complete opposite experience lol, all my Windows laptops have gotten much worse much faster than my macbook, battery life has been shit from day 1, I've had some horrible keyboards but some have been close(minus some of them having a fucking numpad on a tiny laptop), trackpads on Windows is a joke(especially HPs) and finally every single app I use daily is worse on windows laptops, even microsoft apps like excel and word which is incredibly ironic. My current work PC(2021 HP something for $2500) is by far the worst Windows laptop I've ever used

[@TheCoolDave]

@@hamzakanth2347 LOL, spoken like a true Apple FanBoi (FanBoi= a person who is such a fan of their item they are blind to other facts even if they prove a different device is better) In my eyes, for innovation, Apple died with Steve Jobs....

[@justdontworrybehappy]

2:02 Arun… are you ok?

[@gplrm]

Yes he is totally fine 😂😂

[@itx_43]

That’s what she said

[@lucasracaneli]

Side note, I love the way his editor adds his own personal humor into the videos. Keep up the good work

[@WituVerdadero]

bruh.... the editing now SUCKS

[@deus_ex_machina_]

The humour was fine, the design is awful.

[@danishblunt9698]

How does the XPS only have a FULLHD+ screen? They come with 4K OLED screens as well.

[@middleeastbeast81]

So this is Dell vs Macbook, not Mac vs Windows. Barely talked about the OS, just talked about Dell's laptop vs a Macbook. Like wat about an X1 Carbon, imo those r better than XPS

[@PerfectPilot]

the 3d printer?

[@sparv1067]

He took 2 machines in the same price range and market, then compared them. It's fair. You could argue and ask why he didn't he use a macbook pro instead of an air, seen as they are better machines.

[@gamagiczoid2458]

Agreed

[@officialyashvirgaming]

you forgot macOS you need to pay Subscription to play music their music player ain't free like Windows

[@PerfectPilot]

@@officialyashvirgaming quicktime isnt paid.. when was the last time u used macOS? the early 2000s?

[@DavorZyx]

I don't really like how Jozef edited this video, although a lot of key aspects of "Mrwhosetheboss" style are kept, i find comparison sheet (the one with green ticks and red crosses) quite lazy done, compared to other comparison videos you made. Also a lot of small things are just not up to the quality, like "performance" letters at 8:17 , it just doesn't look good in my opinion. I don't mean to hate so hopefully you take it as a constructive criticism

[@benjamin8067]

He edited jokingly and weirdly on purpose.

[@DavorZyx]

@benjamin8067 I guess I missed a joke and didn't like it

[@syediftikharali8771]

​@@benjamin8067who said that?

[@Lord_Nathaniel_Ashworth]

9:54 bro was really making an presentation about flat Earth 🌍🌎

[@jobo_o]

Bro Josef is such a goat for putting in those memes in it makes the watching experience so much better 😂😂

[@uamade]

Regarding secutity. It was hilarious when you could install kexts (kernel extensions) on macOS for years without any restrictions while on Windows you had to go through a certification by Microsoft (HLK) as well as comply with additional requirement to use digital code signing certificate to sign kernel drivers. So overall when it came to the design of the operating system to prevent maliciious kernel code execution Windows was (and still is) a way better and more secure.

[@a_plastic_bag]

Cool, but what does this mean in the present day?

[@fabiospringer6328]

Windows is safer in the worst-case scenario. Frist of all more people uses windows so more companies so there will be more people creating malware for it. Well, if there are more malware in windows Mac is safer? No, Apple have a history of pretending malware for mac doesn't exist and the biggest entry point for attacks is the user. I never had any security problems with windows since I was a dumb horny teenager.

[@ksar98]

​@@a_plastic_bagIt means that it used to be easier for users on Macbooks who were careless enough to download and install something malicious that would severely fuck up the kernel

[@Daniel_EbbE_03]

but you window computer will still get hacked at a cafe bc your windows is so easy to hack, but my mac will be safe @@ksar98

[@toetie2019]

@@ksar98that’s not what he asked for. He asked for the present day.

[@icecreamjunkie6790]

Literally watching this on the same XPS 15 from the video. Bought it last September and am very happy with it.

[@harshbardhanshah]

How is the battery?

[@icecreamjunkie6790]

@@harshbardhanshah Could be better. Nothing to write home about. Couple hours I’d say but it depends on what you’re doing.

[@Dogappel]

Dell batteries have always disappointed me. Only seen one working one in my life.

[@fflamefiree]

@@DogappelYeah I have a dell laptop it’s pretty old like 4 years old it lasts like 45 minutes then it shuts off so I always have it plugged in 😅

[@Reinforce_Zwei]

9:15 "But only slightly though", or nearly exactly 50% faster. Kinda shilly if you're claiming near identical performance when one is running at 1.5x the speed of the one you'd prefer.

[@4Kplayz_shorts]

bro, try the best windows vs mac

[@Lampe2020]

Luckily Dell also supports Linux well on their machines (like, I installed Ubuntu Unity on my Dell Latitude and with the next update I suddenly also had "Linux Firmware Updater" in the boot menu which allows me to update the bios from within Linux, just hit "Install", then reboot and it updates).

[@YannickBurky]

You know that MacOS is an Unix system, don't you?

[@lordwinanim]

@@YannickBurkyyeah but Apple isn’t going to let you dual boot Linux very easily; that’s the main point. Apple makes it hard to change what they’ve given you

[@LaughMonkey]

@@YannickBurky yea. But Linux != Unix

[@nnillat]

@@LaughMonkey Obviously not. Unix is a framework and Linux is a kernel (an OS). But for anyone that needs Linux, MacOS would do just fine if not better. That's the advantage of MacOS when you're working with computers - it's essentially Linux, but built with Apple quality for the average person. No Linux-like 'maintenance' needed, and no closed-source API-based OS like Windows.

[@Lampe2020]

@@nnillat Maybe MacOS needs less maintenance in some cases. I haven't had much maintenance on my Linux installs lately, my install of Ubuntu Unity 22.04 LTS needs only the occasional update which it tells me by popping up the update manager in the background where I can see it by its icon in the launcher lighting up. The only maintenance I need to do on that Ubuntu install (which, by the way, runs on an old Intel iMac) is made necessary by me because I like to tinker around with it and sometimes randomly decide to switch graphics drivers if I feel like so.

[@AndrewsVideoTips143]

The editing is good, but he clearly still has a lot to learn to match the quality of your usual editing. 7/10

[@AndrewsVideoTips143]

oh wow

[@sudiptakiran]

I traded in my MacBook Pro for Asus Zenbook 14 i7 and I absolutely love it with no looking back. I don't consider myself to be a technically challenged person, but I continuously struggled with Mac OS. Basic things used to take me much longer to locate in the Mac maze. On the other hand, I find Windows to be much more logical and easier to navigate even for a layman!!

[@AnkurBorwankar]

Just got an Asus Zenbook Ryzen 7 and it is absolutely fantastic. The OLED display alone places it leagues ahead of any macbook, not to mention that Windows with PowerToys leaves MacOS in the dust. And it costs a fraction of the equivalent spec mac. Apple is a cult.

[@giggitygigs]

​@@AnkurBorwankarhow much does your Laptop cost and what is your spec?

[@hgmd3284]

It’s all about familiarity, of course Mac would feel like a maze, you’re not used to where to look.

[@felixlechat1780]

Chrome OS is better than Windows so make your own conclusion

[@Montpbm7]

Agreed 100%. I had the same experience. Windows is just better imo.

[@anonymous5938]

Those who are saying that Dell ain't good , don't know shit about laptops

[@X1VORTX]

Personally, I think that you should’ve used the the Microsoft Surface Laptop 5 to compare with the Mac, so they would both be laptops from the developers of the software too.

[@chompplays1137]

Can’t it would have been a landslide!

[@theairaccumulator7144]

Surface are basically budget laptops though, it would be like comparing a Lamborghini to a VW. Their comparison isn't good already.

[@danielhendry8376]

@@theairaccumulator7144exactly is lsnt the surface just a fancy tablet rather than a laptop

[@X1VORTX]

@@theairaccumulator7144Fair point.

[@shadowkage.fanfic]

@@danielhendry8376surface studio or surface laptop is a direct competitor and just as expensive as Apple

[@amangine]

If you wanted a quality display for the XPS, there's an obvious upgrade to select the 3.5K OLED - which would be both higher res and better contrast.

[@8ball708]

How much extra?

[@kiavaxxaskew]

​@@8ball708doesn't matter. Why wouldn't he buy a laptop with an OLED panel. This seems like a set up imo.

[@-___-_-_-]

​​@@kiavaxxaskewdon't think it is, it's just the prices are quite inflated in uk and the budget wouldn't allow it, you can get a macbook pro and legion pro 5 for $2000 in us

[@iliagerliani6815]

@@kiavaxxaskewhe literally said the budget was 1600 bucks

[@jaceherondale4250]

@@kiavaxxaskew they are taking into account similar price points. By your logic he should have used the Pro , why even bother with the Air?

[@Alphanetwork909]

Hi arun, Josef did a good job with the edit....but the font used in the course of the video looks a bit cheap, I prefer the bold font we are used to 😁 love if you'd adjust that thanks 🧡 I believe there are certain type of videos the fonts could be used for....like the other cheap gadgets video you did. But the bolder one will suit techy videos more. Still love the video tho as always 😁

[@UnicornsPoopRainbows]

Pretty sure the font was supposed to be a joke. It’s called comic sans

[@Alphanetwork909]

@@UnicornsPoopRainbows yeah...I was so disturbed 😂

[@Eukon]

agree 😅

[@atharvasg5418]

Gaming... That's one of the main reasons someone would choose windows

[@pepekay6259]

@@urs.1919Come tell us that again when you’ve become one..

[@EV_car2013]

I game very well on my M2 Mac

[@kenjiIRL]

You don’t need to fiddle around with the windows on Mac. You can hold the green window button and then swipe to a side (left, right) and it will automatically make the window exactly half

[@andyH_England]

Yes there are hundreds of tricks with macOS that can make it more customisable.

[@Atlas_Redux]

OK ... and how does that help with quad tiling?

[@arandomperson7095]

doesnt xdd@@Atlas_Redux

[@Versatilty]

I've had both and like both but I have found that people who like Mac's tend to find reasons to make them "better" I'm honest in saying that I think both are good and depending what you use them for I can say either is better or worse.

[@CyDorch]

❤

[@nnillat]

That's also the same for Windows users lol. Have you not seen this video's comment section?????

[@nothing7365]

Bro this is literally what he just said

[@oh-noe]

people are very loyal and become very biased. This comment section is a mess. I have a Mac laptop and a windows desktop and I like having both. I get the both of best worlds. The performance and diversity of windows and the portability and comfort of Mac

[@TheSwedishFish-gl1vl]

Your first mistake was buying anything from dell

[@Gravage]

I use both platforms daily and I like both, but one thing people don't take into account with Mac is that many of the simplest, everyday things are more difficult, mainly due to incompatibility. Want to use a 3rd party mouse with your Mac? You can forget about using the middle mouse button or the forward/back buttons unless you buy Logitech and install their software or special utilities. Game controllers, headsets, etc. There are many little quirks like that with peripherals and applications that you just don't realize until you get one. If you're really good with MacOS (like I am), you can find ways around most of these challenges, but many first-time buyers have limited knowledge of the OS and will struggle.

[@BobRossRightHand]

Weird, all mice, keyboards and headsets I've used with Mac works as they do on Windows

[@mikeb.4597]

I’ve connected my Xbox controller via Bluetooth to my Mac and appleTv for some VERY light gaming with no issues at all. I have a wireless mouse made by MS and use it on my Mac with no issues. All the buttons work for me.

[@Gravage]

@@BobRossRightHand then you haven't tried very many.

[@Gravage]

@@mikeb.4597 I never said "no devices work". I said that you will have compatibility issues with many peripherals. I have seen it with wired Xbox controllers, many different mice, printers, keyboards, headsets, etc. And by default, unless you're installing special software for the mouse, back and forward buttons do not work as expected.

[@danielPompa-t5i]

I've had windows laptops all my life and just got a macbook air m1 and I'm completely shocked by the quality of the display, sound and performance, personally would never switch back, love it soo much.

[@Wirldly]

i have neglected mine for 3 years now, nothing has broken on it. you'll be having it for a while 😂

[@baustronaut1390]

this are two different usecases. And I guess the mac is better for you than. Windoes laptops usually don't have a good over all package, like a mac

[@cadeeja.]

Honestly? No matter what I did or do, instability has never really been an issue for me after Windows 7. The few times that I had to work around something (less than fingers on one hand) are a very small price for all the freedom and compatibility one has with Windows. And from 8 it became a lot safer for unexperienced users as well. And I love games, so my ROG Strix was a no brainer ^^

[@ezBeanie]

macOs is definitely less stable or atleast apps that run on both systems tend to work better on Windows in my case

[@labandahalf]

Model/specs of your strix? That may be a contender for me.

[@Atlas_Redux]

I've had one single bluescreen in 11 as well, and that was because I hadn't pushed down my new RAM when I drunkenly shoved them in -.-

[@jelkk0349]

How?? I run into so many stability issues on windows ironically more often than not they are related to Microsoft products. At the moment Excel is unusable as it crashes so frequently (like every 2nd equation I enter). Worst part is I can't even uninstall and reinstall just Excel - you now have to uninstall the entirety of office 365 (word, powerpoint, outlook, etc.) and then reinstall them all - absolutely ridiculous. (Yet I find Microsoft apps running on macOS work absolutely great)

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@jelkk0349 Then clearly there is an issue with your rig. You think Excel would still sell if everyone in the world had it crashing constantly? Think before you write.

[@wodzimierz_slepowron]

I watched the "comparison" out of pure curiosity, but I got some questions (I used both MacOS and Windows and Linux long enough to have my own opinion): - no keyboard comparison (Macbooks with an alternative layout are supplied to Europe, which requires getting used to), - no comparison of work in corporate networks, - no comparison of work in multi-user mode (work account and personal account), - the claim of resistance to hacking is very dubious, - and much, much more... In fact, the whole choice lies in the task: you need a beautiful laptop for sitting in a cafe - a Macbook, you need a working tool - any good laptop on Windows/Linux

[@bIuuvfx]

I gotta say, Josef did a pretty good job editing his first video! I liked how he tried to recreate the same style.

[@Allminelover91]

It’s noticeably worse not trying to be mean but I think he’ll get better in the future

[@azurezzz]

I can't this guy purposely used comic sans the whole video to piss us off 😭

[@CrescentX3]

@@azurezzzand that green and white :/

[@LambdaMiscellaneous]

@@azurezzz HAHA!

[@braden3x]

he HAD to do small things to just piss us off

[@mikefromvernon]

We have both in our house. The desktop is a mac, we have iPhones and my wife uses an iPad. My laptop is a HP windows machine. I like the stability of apple products etc. but find that some types of software like microsoft products don't always translate things well, some types of applications don't really have much in the way of choice for mac but lots for windows. In my experience I say look at what you want the machine to do and pick the platform that has the apps.

[@joyantamitra8186]

Hp is the worst when it comes to longevity

[@tharshil_005]

The title of the video is very misleading, it should rather be mac book vs Dell xps or you should specifically talk about the software side

[@kimichan5]

the editing in this video is *_chef's kiss_*