Maxxis High Roller 3 Review | Better than the Assegai?

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@freezer4230
@freezer4230 3 ай бұрын
Just got the new DHRII 2.5 for the front on all my bikes riding in mixed and loose over hard. Super traction with great volume now for the front. This new High Roller looks functionally similar- need a 2.5!
@BogdanMiliu
@BogdanMiliu 3 ай бұрын
If Maxxis would get their quality control under control. The last 3 DHR2s I had (DD) had a wobble in the bead.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
It's a pretty small sample size but all four of the tires we've gotten to try have been wobble free! -Tor
@BogdanMiliu
@BogdanMiliu 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLostCo Good to hear! I kinda gave up on Maxxis and went Conti after the 4th wobbly DHR2 in a row.
@lsugimoto8361
@lsugimoto8361 3 ай бұрын
I agree. I had one Assegai DH which was really bad and a Shorty with a slight but noticeable wobble recently.
@inidanu
@inidanu 3 ай бұрын
Yes... I used to be a big fan of maxxis, but since 650b and 29 era, almost all maxiss tires in my place have a problem with wobble
@busterbrownbitch
@busterbrownbitch 3 ай бұрын
I found some soapy water on the beed and rim while mounting eliminated the wobble issue.
@postimtb
@postimtb 3 ай бұрын
I been riding with assegai and high roller back some years ago... Its a good combo.
@ptchristanMTB
@ptchristanMTB 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you guys!
@jokermtb
@jokermtb 3 ай бұрын
420 knobs on both tires combined......high-roller, indeed ...............maxxis, coulda called it the Shorty-ass This is the tire DAK was always referring to as 'the intermediate' in all his previous interviews. It's a true intermediate tire. I guess my biggest quandry for ditching my Assegai front for one of these, is that I'm a trail rider, not a DH racer - my trails are in Michigan, so it's more sandy, gritty, dusty, sometimes wet twisty trails, w/ glacial low hills with lots of small ups and downs. I love how the Assegai saves me constantly from questionable lines with even more questionable traction - why would I ditch that emergency-exit grip of the Assegai for something that probably rolls better, but won't grip as tenaciously? I'd still be curious to try one up front to see for myself, but when they offer lighter casings (don't need tough casings for michigan)
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
The new High Roller 3 is slower rolling than the Assegai. It's most comparable to the Conti Argotal. Most riders currently using Assegais will probably be best just staying on the Assegai (or switching to the Kryptotal), save for maybe those riding in winter in the PNW or UK or just riding steep, loose terrain all the time. Also if you like the grip of the Assegai but wished it had better feedback and a little more predictability I'd suggest the Kryptotal.
@lsugimoto8361
@lsugimoto8361 3 ай бұрын
Shortys are great where I live for wet and dry conditions. The only reason I only switch to them for the wet is wear. They wear more than twice as fast as an Assegai and for a non-sponsored rider and Maxxis MaxxGrip DD/ DH tires north of $100 it's definitely a factor. These High Roller IIIs look like they will wear similar to the Shortys.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
With fewer knobs, they're definitely going to wear faster than an Assegai, and considering they were developed as a race specific tire, that isn't a huge surprise! If you're looking for a longer lasting tire, the Assegai is definitely going to be a better option. -Tor
@JaimetheNomad
@JaimetheNomad 3 ай бұрын
Great breakdown guys!
@JB50713
@JB50713 3 ай бұрын
Interesting! Digging the shorter hair Mike! ✌🏼
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Haha me too! Saving big bucks on shampoo now 😂 -Mike
@vlbz
@vlbz 3 ай бұрын
The Assegai is so freaking good, I don't know if many riders will be interested in something new from Maxxis. Ps. impatiently waiting for a Micheline DH tire review
@trillbill9378
@trillbill9378 3 ай бұрын
Do yourself a favor and just buy some new Wild Enduros or DH16 and DH22 tires. Maxxi Pads are over rated and over priced
@dsrtrcr77
@dsrtrcr77 3 ай бұрын
Just switch from Maxxis Assegai to IRC Tanken. Awesome tires way more grip. And they are only $40!
@trillbill9378
@trillbill9378 3 ай бұрын
@@dsrtrcr77 Never heard of them but appreciate the suggestion and def will be looking into it 👊
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
@@trillbill9378 Michelins are very short lived in dry/rocky conditions. IMHO the best Maxxis alternative right now are the new Contis.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
@@dsrtrcr77 Looks like a Single compound clone of a Specialized Butcher, if the rubber is THAT soft they're going to be very short lived tires. There's also no options for tread compounds or casings and they're probably pretty weak sidewalls based on the tire weight.
@zakkane2814
@zakkane2814 3 ай бұрын
The Maxxis Argotal 🙄 been waiting on this since conti updated their tyres
@JeremyFacer
@JeremyFacer 3 ай бұрын
Maxxis Argotal
@MonsterMX99
@MonsterMX99 3 ай бұрын
Expect Conti is much better
@MarkZuckerburg5G
@MarkZuckerburg5G 3 ай бұрын
Conti copied the assegai (kryptol f), the DHR (kryptol r), the dissector (xylotol or whatever) and the shorty (argotal) but sure why not this looks like an argotal lmao. The argotal has taller knobs than this significantly, have seen them side to side in a shop, the argotal is definitely a shorty rip off
@joeweiland9938
@joeweiland9938 3 ай бұрын
Great summary. Thank you!
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Definitely a solid tire option!
@darrenwellenreiter136
@darrenwellenreiter136 3 ай бұрын
Only ONE mosquito? Not bad! Good review and I like the pro/average rider opinions too
@chrisgravel7157
@chrisgravel7157 2 ай бұрын
Spent a lot of time on Bontrager SE4/5, Maxxis DHR2, Assegai. Looks to me like their taking input from Conti owners and Bontragers which had better rolling and more consistet transition performance. Currently on Conti Kryp/Xno in Enduro casings. IMHO this combo is better everywhere than the Maxxis Assegai/DR2. Rolling is a bit better but overall consistency of performance especially front is improved. Enduro casing as others have said is more like DD, definetly beefir than EXO+ and more supportive.
@trentvlak
@trentvlak 3 ай бұрын
It's like the Specialized Hillbilly but $109 instead of $40.
@Cajo22
@Cajo22 3 ай бұрын
Definitely Specialized tyres are here to stay…Butcher, Grid Gravity casing on T9 rubber sticks to the ceiling! More affordable than Maxxis, zero punctures and no awful yellow logos! I’ve tried Maxxis, WTB and Schwalbe and I know a bit what I’m talking about…😆
@michaelgoodwin593
@michaelgoodwin593 3 ай бұрын
​@@Cajo22 I don't think you do
@Cajo22
@Cajo22 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelgoodwin593Personal preferences…
@charliebrookes86
@charliebrookes86 3 ай бұрын
I have been running spec tires past 2 years. Butcher/ eliminator. Only set up I have ever just out in my bikes and forget about them. Don’t have to think they just work
@IamSeafarer
@IamSeafarer 3 ай бұрын
Hillbilly is $75...
@Nicoya
@Nicoya 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great all-rounder, I'm gonna stick a pair on my gravel bike.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Might not be aggressive enough, we recommend the Maxxis Wetscream for most gravel applications. -Tor
@mattfarrar5472
@mattfarrar5472 3 ай бұрын
I went to a Butcher from Assegai as i felt the Assegai was slightly slower to roll over and to slippery on dry dusty Aussie trails.
@techspec3411
@techspec3411 3 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on the swap?
@mattfarrar5472
@mattfarrar5472 3 ай бұрын
@@techspec3411 For me much better, I found the Assegai to tip in a little slower and the edge of grip to be less forgiving and slip easily. I have much more confidence in the butcher tips in quicker, flicks better and more forgiving when you push it to slip. But that's my experience! May be due to my riding style and the trails I ride!
@gareythurlow
@gareythurlow 2 ай бұрын
Will they release more size and casing options? I’m running 2.6 Assegai on the eeb and love the surport but really curious to try the higher 3 up front for UK winter conditions. Does this 2.4 measure up on the larger size on 30 internal rim?
@neuzethmusic131
@neuzethmusic131 3 ай бұрын
The High Roller 2 on my rear really had a bad rolling resistance... Changed it yesterday for a DHR 2. A lot faster now, especially on harder ground.
@imperialred
@imperialred 3 ай бұрын
Looks like a WTB Verdict
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Someone may have copied someone's homework 👀 -Tor
@MarkZuckerburg5G
@MarkZuckerburg5G 3 ай бұрын
The WTB verdict has zero WC wins, and zero WC riders probably for a reason
@pizzapie4me
@pizzapie4me 3 ай бұрын
​@@MarkZuckerburg5G still an absolutely bitchin tire, regardless. Go to for loose or wet conditions. Hooks up like velcro.
@mangoshake
@mangoshake 3 ай бұрын
One thing I'd like to ask that wasn't mentioned, though; how does it feel through wet roots? I just read a review that said it was quite slippy on them, and a bit like the DHR II, non verbatim. On that note, I'd like to ask about how the DHR II handles wet roots as well. Thanks!
@jefferson9428
@jefferson9428 3 ай бұрын
Nothing handles wet roots well. Like literally lol.
@torweiland1738
@torweiland1738 3 ай бұрын
To be determined! It's the middle of summer right now and there isn't a wet root to be found in this hemisphere, but once we get the chance to test it out in those conditions we'll let you know!
@mangoshake
@mangoshake 3 ай бұрын
@@jefferson9428 I agree, but reviewers are alternating opinions with the DHR II between having the greatest grip on roots, or being really bad instead.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
@@jefferson9428 Best I've seen on roots is the Kryptotal rear
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
@@mangoshake DHR2 grips until it doesn't, they do love to let go suddenly.
@OlivierSoares
@OlivierSoares 2 ай бұрын
would you setup an Assegai up front and high Roller in the back ? More for enduro, steep, Rooty and rocky trails here in Sintra, Portugal ?
@jacksondaniels8169
@jacksondaniels8169 3 ай бұрын
3 years of pushing around the DHF/DHR. I'm tired of the slow rolling nature of those tires. So what's the recommendation now for replacing the DHF/DHR for SoCal Park and San Diego terrain? Really considering the S Brand enduro tires because the Maxxis brand has so much going on without any real direction.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
Conti Krpytotals IMHO. The front rides similar to the Assegai, but rolls a little faster, and has better feedback and the rear blows the DHR2 away, rolls faster, slightly better grip, WAY more predictable than the DHR2. If you want to stick with Maxxis, probably Assegai/Dissector combo unless you're riding steeps (and I know some of those SoCal trails can get steep AF)
@jeremycrystalhess5520
@jeremycrystalhess5520 3 ай бұрын
Get Contis. You’ll never go back.
@jacksondaniels8169
@jacksondaniels8169 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendations. The DHF/DHR have been good tires and have yet to get a puncture when riding rocky loose terrain. I'm just tired of the extra weight and slow rolling nature.
@jacksondaniels8169
@jacksondaniels8169 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Definitely my next purchase after this summer season.
@myrideclips5033
@myrideclips5033 3 ай бұрын
I’d do Aggressor/DHF or Kryptotal/Xynotal for socal
@zouloum9607
@zouloum9607 3 ай бұрын
How does it compare to the DHF? They seem similar in terms of tread pattern.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
The High Roller is definitely going to be more of an all arounder than the DHF. If your riders consist of a wide range of conditions, then the High Roller is a better option, but if you're only riding in the dry, then we recommend the Assegai, the dry weather specialist! -Tor
@Deanosaurous
@Deanosaurous 3 ай бұрын
Currently running the Maxxis Aspen ST on my gravel bike. Do you think the High Roller 3 would be a better option on some gnarly class 4 roads?
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
We would definitely recommend a Maxxis Wetscream for these applications. -Tor
@MiloWalp
@MiloWalp 3 ай бұрын
Tor if you are reading this what are your tips for hitting the bigger jumps at more mesa? I have gotten the first 2 but havent gotten any farther in the line.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Get comfy on the last step up before hitting the rest of the jumps! Once that step up is stress free it's time for the whole line! -Tor
@stevenkilleen8149
@stevenkilleen8149 3 ай бұрын
Assegai just too good to beat at bike park and front end grip this tire looks awesome for loam
@aznwierdone
@aznwierdone 3 ай бұрын
High roller 3 is cool but that darco is way cooler. How does tor like it?
@theskilawyer
@theskilawyer 3 ай бұрын
I liked my HR2 except when rolling through turn without enough lean to engage side knobs. Always the momentary heart stopping front wheel drift before side knobs bite. In loose over hard and cat litter liking the dissector better. On center rolling resistance is a coin toss between the two.
@FreerideQuebec
@FreerideQuebec 3 ай бұрын
Personally the High-roller 2 was an awful tire both front and rear for our condition here, curious about this one though, with one seem the fastest between him and the Assegai?
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Yes this is definitely a huge departure from the High Roller 2! As far as rolling speed goes, this is going to be pretty similar to the Assegai, but slightly slower. -Tor
@karelbartman
@karelbartman 3 ай бұрын
Maxxis hr2 is my favourite front tire. Just great for ripping gives me lots of confidence. This new one looks more generic without the ramped knobs in the middle so I don't know.
@Pienimusta
@Pienimusta 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely love Assegai for dry, mostly sandy and hardpack conditions. Works also really well on trail bikes with faster rear tyre. Is the High Roller slower rolling when pedalling? Seems more downhill and lift oriented. Where does the DHF nowadays sit in the pack?
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
I think the rolling speed of the Assegai and the High Roller are super comparable! They're both relatively slow rolling tires when looking at all the options out there, and the DHR II is going to roll a bit faster than the High Roller and the Assegai. Definitely don't use the High Roller if you're lining up for an XC race, but for downhill or enduro, front end grip is obviously the priority over rolling speed. The DHF is definitely in a weird spot now, it's not going to be the tire that we recommend to anyone looking for maximum performance, but still comes stock on tons of bikes. It still comes with great rubber and offers a bit less rolling resistance than other options, but isn't going to offer quite as much all out grip as the Assegai or the High Roller. -Tor
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
The Assegai is the tire you run when you aren't sure what will work best, it's the "jack of all trades, master of most" in the gravity tire world. The only comparable tire is the Conti Krpytotal, which Conti flat out markets as a mixed conditions tire. And up until the HR3 the vast majority of World Cup DH and Enduro bikes had Assegais or Kryptotals up front.
@PNW_DK
@PNW_DK 3 ай бұрын
No mention of a DRF? Where does it fit?
@luca_dierks
@luca_dierks 3 ай бұрын
How about Argotal vs High Roller? High Roller seems a bit more versatile?
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
That would be the natural comparison. I've not really seen anybody who really loved the Argotol, it apparently doesn't have the feedback and predictability that the Kryptotal has already become legendary for.
@myrideclips5033
@myrideclips5033 3 ай бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423what. Everyone loves the Argotal. Including Loic bruni
@GhislainLeduc
@GhislainLeduc 3 ай бұрын
I think for Quebec, which rains often, the Highroller 3 is gonna be a big winner! Tks for the video! Did you guys test it on ROCKS ? Does it grip well ?
@denislitisha7136
@denislitisha7136 3 ай бұрын
They rode Squamish. It’s all rock.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
I think rubber compound is overall more important than tread pattern when it comes to gripping on rock, and the Maxxis MaxxGrip compound is hard to beat. We were able to creep down some big slabs in Whistler and Squamish with no problem! -Tor
@bike_czech
@bike_czech 3 ай бұрын
How it compares to DHF or DHR2 on the front?
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
The High Roller is going to be way more well rounded than those tires, and definitely offer more grip than either the DHF or DHR! But if rolling speed is your top priority, then the DHR would be a great front tire option as well. -Tor
@heathdouglas-monks7568
@heathdouglas-monks7568 3 ай бұрын
What's it like on roots?
@CalgaryDynastar
@CalgaryDynastar 3 ай бұрын
God damn… Tire opinions comments are just like political comments 😅
@DarkBurst90
@DarkBurst90 3 ай бұрын
And what about rolling performance?? Does it sits between Assegai and DHRII or is it closer to one??
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
This tire isn't going to win any XC races, and I would say that it rolls a little bit slower than an Assegai. -Tor
@Coerced
@Coerced 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like the same application as the Magic Mary
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
Probably a little more aggressive than the MM. The MM is a bit of an odd duck, grips wet and loose terrain better than an Assegai, but is sketchy and unpredictable on loose over hardpack, it also squirms on hardpack.
@CristicaPorumb
@CristicaPorumb 3 ай бұрын
Actually looks like a new minion dhf,but more aggressive
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
That's a good way to think about it! So far the High Roller has been better than the DHF in just about every scenario I've found, except for rolling speed. -Tor
@joshuaanothereraseddad
@joshuaanothereraseddad 3 ай бұрын
Cannibal T9 front and Hillbilly grid rear.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
Bruni and Iles still run sharpied out Maxxis, that should tell you what you need to know about those. Trek didn't even try to force Vali Holl to run Bontrager, she's been on Contis for the last two seasons
@ShawnHermann
@ShawnHermann 3 ай бұрын
Cannibal is a great tire
@Alan-75
@Alan-75 3 ай бұрын
I get Goodyear, conti and Michelin car tyres for less than i pay for my MTB tyres from the same brands. How have they got the nerve to charge mountain bikers this much for tyres?
@FoVision
@FoVision 3 ай бұрын
How do these compare to dhf dhr ii combo especially for pnw? Regular rider
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
For PNW riding, I would definitely recommend the High Roller in the front over the DHF because the DHF is more of a dry weather specialist, while the High Roller is very well rounded and is a great fit for the wide range of conditions we get to experience in this corner of the country! As for the rear tire, the DHR II is so hard to beat, and I would recommend using it over the High Roller most of the year, but I think the High Roller will be a perfect winter tire. -Tor
@fireblade1986
@fireblade1986 3 ай бұрын
​​@@TheLostCo how about the sideknobs? I recently switched to the assegai and feel like the sideknobs are just way less sturdy than the DHF... kind of freaks me out from. time to time, as it doesn't seem to hook up as hard as the DHF and squirms (I'm also not the lightest rider at around 200lbs) I always think of the DHF as the A-line tyre (fast+cornering hard), just sometimes clogging up when sticky wet... but the assegai is just clogging all the time and it seems to only benefit in the dry in maybe flatish loose over hard corners
@pinned91
@pinned91 3 ай бұрын
What length cranks you running?
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Stay tuned.... 👀
@GriffinMcMurray
@GriffinMcMurray 3 ай бұрын
Isn't this just a Conti Argotal? I'd like to see that comparison.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
They're definitely made for the exact same riding conditions and would make for a great comparison! Stay tuned.... -Tor
@dman5703
@dman5703 3 ай бұрын
Love that idea of that tire but the tacky chan is just better tires
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Had one on the rear of my enduro bike recently and it was great! I had the Magic Mary up front with the Ultra Soft rubber, but unfortunately it was just nowhere near as sticky as MaxxGrip from Maxxis so I'm really pumped on the High Roller 3. If you haven't tried a MaxxGrip tire up front yet, I would absolutely recommend it! -Mike
@dman5703
@dman5703 3 ай бұрын
@TheLostCo I ride maxxis as well agressor rear assagie front and rear on my dh bike but that tacky chan is the best tire out for my style of riding
@_TheDeanMachine
@_TheDeanMachine 3 ай бұрын
Not to conpare apples and oranges here, but is this on par than with the Magic Mary than.
@hobblyjig
@hobblyjig 3 ай бұрын
Which tire for sandy conditions?
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
Probably the High Roller 3
@taylordarion3477
@taylordarion3477 3 ай бұрын
0:03 whats that tubeless valve?
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
I actually don't know, haha. They were just some random free ones that somebody sent us and I liked the color so I put them in my wheels 😂 -Mike
@franksnyder363
@franksnyder363 3 ай бұрын
I liked it better when WTB called it the Verdict. 😂
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
I had the Verdict a few years ago and I absolutely loved it! However, I've just always preferred the MaxxGrip rubber compound to any of the WTB rubber compounds. So when I saw the High Roller 3 was coming out, I was definitely excited 😀 -Mike
@cooltuque
@cooltuque 3 ай бұрын
Should have called it the ShortGuy since its a bit shorty and a bit assegai
@Trikk57
@Trikk57 3 ай бұрын
Just buy a DHF, Assagai are sketchy on the edge
@Kandalf8989
@Kandalf8989 Ай бұрын
Right on spot, have two bikes one of them assegai, the other DHF, DHF is predictable, assegai you are on rails and then all of a sudden, with no warning you are just slipped like on ice.
@alexkeyes1706
@alexkeyes1706 3 ай бұрын
Compare to an Argotal, thats the best tire iver ever used.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
That's a great idea! I'll grab one of those next! -Tor
@lawrencefranck9417
@lawrencefranck9417 3 ай бұрын
Looks like the fire xc pro
@elslanedog1264
@elslanedog1264 3 ай бұрын
Almost identical to the Spesh Hillbilly
@bikedude019
@bikedude019 3 ай бұрын
Droped Maxxis two years ago… compound is too soft, tires melt like crazy, and maxx terra is not available on dh casing.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully you found something that works better for you! We just love that MaxxGrip compound out here in the PNW which hooks up great and lasts quite a while on the front.
@bikedude019
@bikedude019 3 ай бұрын
They dont last 25 days in the Whistler bike park.
@dont_hit_trees
@dont_hit_trees 2 ай бұрын
DHF - What am I to you?
@burningatthetrailhead
@burningatthetrailhead 3 ай бұрын
Bring back the holy roller 😂
@PartyPacer
@PartyPacer 3 ай бұрын
Dude where is your hair?
@nicholashines7686
@nicholashines7686 3 ай бұрын
who cars about the tires, look at that 80s stash
@boogiedownbronx73
@boogiedownbronx73 3 ай бұрын
Highroller is so expensive...I bought an Assegai from aliexpress for 30 USD new original !!! as someone who rides mostly trail/enduro where i live the highroller would be breaking the bank
@chuckthompson460
@chuckthompson460 3 ай бұрын
So Maxxis is now copying Vittoria? This tire is the Mazza with a Maxxis logo on it
@krusch75
@krusch75 3 ай бұрын
Good tyres. Poor measuring devices in factory. As maxxis 2.5 is similar to honest manufacturerers 2.35 - 2.4.
@fABIO-cs3un
@fABIO-cs3un 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it looks like a Magic Mary
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
Lots of similarities for sure, no wonder both are great tires! -Tor
@fabulousfabrications1985
@fabulousfabrications1985 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know if they were fake or “ knock offs “ but I got a set of maxxis high rollers tyres one time and in under a couple of hours worth of riding they had cracks all over the side walls and treads of both tires not one word of a lie big cracks all over the side walls!! I would never trust maxxis tyres especially when it’s-30 degrees below zero.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
Did you ride in -30 temps? Any tire is going to crack in those conditions.
@a8f235
@a8f235 3 ай бұрын
Doesn't look like a High Roller, and it resembles a Shorty. Welcome Stubs... 🤔
@justinfournier1285
@justinfournier1285 3 ай бұрын
Eveyone talking about Conti, are you guys using them? Argotal/Kryptotal Soft Enduro is not as grippy as MaxxGrip Assegai in Exo+ or DD. Period. This isn’t even an accurate comparison. I have bikes running both. I’ve back to backed them. High roller 3 in MaxxGrip DD and later in Exo + is gonna stomp out a Conti in Soft compound, all day every day, teeth on the curb. High roller in DD is already a SKU in the system. Exo + due in fall according to Maxxis. Conti Super soft Enduro still a speculation and if they don’t fix mould alignment still gonna be same quality as Maxxis/Schwalbe. Conti from China, the moulds aren’t even aligned properly. Sipes in the center tread are 1-2mm off. Is that a step above Maxxis? No. They both have these kinds of problems. And try and mount a Conti?! Maxxis with no levers is a little tight but no problem by hand, Conti you are gonna be sweating to get it done with 2 levers, maybe even metal ones. Want to change them to test some? You will be redoing your rim tape every time. Do you guys just come in here to cheer on your current choice?
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
Conti Super Soft is equivalent to MaxGrip, Conti Soft is equivalent to MaxTerra. DH casing Contis are made in Germany, the enduros are either made in germany or china (look for the square box for german made), and the trail casing is 100% china. I run a set of DH casing Krpytotals (Super Soft front, Soft rear) and they're the best tires I've ever ridden. They really are a pain to mount though haha. Comparing Maxxis MaxGrip to Conti Soft is not a direct comparison the direct comparison would be Conti super soft.
@justinfournier1285
@justinfournier1285 3 ай бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 Except they don’t make Enduro casing in Super soft. I don’t want DH casing on a trail bike.
@alexkeyes1706
@alexkeyes1706 3 ай бұрын
Youre comparing maxxgrip to soft and not supersoft? This is stupid. Also the DH casing is the one to go for.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
@@justinfournier1285 It's coming, they're already providing Enduro Super Soft to select OEMs.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 3 ай бұрын
@@alexkeyes1706 I agree. If you're running EXO+ Maxxis with Cush Core to keep em alive, get DH casing Conti and take out the Cush Core.
@jonest-e393
@jonest-e393 3 ай бұрын
maxxis is a one-rim-tire disposables. if you're a guy who moves tires from one rim to another constantly, you'll know what i'm saying. you can't argue with me, period.
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
I know what you're saying! I had to switch these tires from my downhill bike to the trail bike (with cushcore) and it took all my patience to not throw everything in the trash haha. -Tor
@jonest-e393
@jonest-e393 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheLostCo😂
@Technikfreak72
@Technikfreak72 3 ай бұрын
Shorty is about 100 gramms lighter than the HR3, where is the innovation? The Shorty works also in all kind of conditions. And when EXO casing and MaxxTerra is enough for you, you will save even 300 gramms! And MaxxTerra is better for low temperatures where the MaxxGrip turn from super grip to hard rubber slider.
@Trade2Invest-
@Trade2Invest- 3 ай бұрын
I just believe that a mtb cost more than car tires
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
I'm not thrilled about it either, good thing there are more affordable options out there! -Tor
@playgroundchooser
@playgroundchooser 3 ай бұрын
Meh... the Assegai is a great tire, and it doesn't have the silly death channel that this new one has. I'll stick with the Assegai.
@matimrowiec
@matimrowiec 3 ай бұрын
maxxis argotal
@TheLargeRed
@TheLargeRed 3 ай бұрын
Does it wobble, though? 😂
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
We've got a small sample size so far (4 tires), but none of them have the wobble! -Tor
@TheLargeRed
@TheLargeRed 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLostCo nice! Thanks!
@McMaster_102
@McMaster_102 3 ай бұрын
So it's a MArgotal.
@outsidefootdab4878
@outsidefootdab4878 3 ай бұрын
So maxxis introduced the assegai because its supposed to be the best all round front tire with its 'transition knobs' to replace the minon dhf with its 'quote unquote' float zone that people didnt like apparently. Now the new high roller is the new all round best front tire to replace the assegai because its now new grippy side knobs and clearly has a float zone. Maxxis marketing at its best. So basically re-releasing new minion.
@trentvlak
@trentvlak 3 ай бұрын
As a front tire, Assegai always had a major flaw, that huge center knob that did nothing. Since the tire flattens against the ground, there's no point in having centerline knobs. Centerline knobs just get in the way of the side knobs biting. This new design has no centerline knobs.
@doublea404
@doublea404 3 ай бұрын
Maybe watch the video again? The Assegai is a great tire for lots of riders in a range of conditions, and it’s not going anywhere. The High Roller excels in loose conditions-either wet or dry-where the Assegai can struggle because of its dense tread pattern.
@trentvlak
@trentvlak 3 ай бұрын
@@doublea404 I know more than the guys in the video. I own and have owned the Assegai and a few clones. I snip off the centerline knob and the tire improves every time in every condition.
@outsidefootdab4878
@outsidefootdab4878 3 ай бұрын
@@trentvlak Aggree with you, the floating zone is that initial feeling that you get from centre knobs to locking into the side knobs, it always had a positive feel for me kind of like a ski and the minions has that. But id say most people jumped onto the assegai from minons because of the marketing being the best all round front tire and transition knob aggressive design, greg minaar help develop etc. Also the HR3 seemed like it was in testing phase for quite sometime with pros so id say after all the assegai hype maybe pros realised it wasn't as good as minions. who knows
@outsidefootdab4878
@outsidefootdab4878 3 ай бұрын
@@doublea404 I'm comparing to previous videos in the past about the assegai, but when you buy the assegai the marketing litterally says for loose and loose of hard terrain, wet etc. When it was released it had massive hype and most people went from minions to the assegai. Now If you compare the HR3 to minions especially the side knobs the almost look the same, also they both have more open tread designs compared to assegai. Albeit the HR3 has higher knobs. To me I think maxxis basically needed a new open design tire similar to minion in terms of characterists under the HR3 name. Anyways im sure people will just buy whatever is new.
@ISRAMZ15
@ISRAMZ15 3 ай бұрын
Naaaa Assegai its much better than H.R.3 How much did Maxxis pay you for this video?
@TheLostCo
@TheLostCo 3 ай бұрын
They payed us in four free tires and a couple of shuttle laps, so we'll be retiring early now 😎 For real though, we're not saying either tire is better than the other, but they both have a specific use case! The Assegai is still one of our favorite tires out there, and the High Roller 3 is another great option. -Tor
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