Maybe It Will Be Different This Time!

[@leonardsarten802]

Pro tip from a 45 yr tool runner, your mud is to thin and take the springs off, when going down the wall or ceiling barely lift the wheels off the drywall or run it with the wheels on the wall. Do corners after you 12 box. For a smooth finish wall wipe with 12” knife soon after you apply to the wall. Tools are actually made for multiple people to run. Thats why they are production tools. You are a good hand finisher and i like that you take your time to make it look good!😎✌🏼👍🏼 p.s. always pull from a corner to a window or door, that way you do not leave a lap mark.😊

[@albertm8576]

Ben all I can say is you make it look so easy. I had never seen anyone use a box like that , wow

[@KevinsDisobedience]

Leave the springs, keep the edge of the box knife clean, and run a 12” skimming blade over it immediately after, which will allow you to fill right to the corner.

[@TheOfficialDjProduct]

Hey brother. I've been watching for a good bit. I started drywall about when you started uploading. I've learned so much from your channel and appreciate it. And worked with guys with 40+ years, 40+ years, 30 years, 17, 12, and many more over the past several years. All great finishers and great hangers. I've learned so much thanks to you and all those guys. Even your non-drywall videos have been informative and entertaining, not only are you a great creator but a great guy. And I enjoy the carpentry videos as well, always great to learn new tricks if an odd situation does occur. Here are some tips, take them with a grain of salt, everyone does stuff different, long as it looks good we're in the green. -mixing your mud, hold the bucket with both your feet right before your toes, guessing it's a variable speed mixing drill. start slow at the bottom and slowly go up getting the water mixed in. Makes less of a mess, I rarely get mud on my pants from mixing. (you probably already know this but like I said, everyone does stuff different, it's also Friday lol and maybe someone reading the comments doesn't know so this will help them). -Mud looks too thin. That's probably close to right for boxing angles. You shouldn't be getting such a mess below the slot with boxing that bit of work. Just a little thinner than hand coating AP light, don't want it sliding off your knife like pancake mixture (so not like taping mud). -If you have a window or wall, run from the angle to the cutout. Pull the brake right before it ends and follow through. -If there are outlets/cutout/etc, either go around them, or pull the brake, slightly lift the wheels up, and glide over it. It will fill the outlet with mud but that way you don't get caught up and cause a horrible pull off. And for a lid, that mud will fall down and likely get you right in the face (money shot 😆) -pretty often I run stuff twice just to get a clean pass. Some guys get a large skimming blade and go over it just to clean em up. -didn't see you boxing any butt joints. level 3 for a heavy texture, first coat split them with a 12. Right before your wheels hit you coated recess, pull the brake, lift the wheels slightly run it till the blade just about hits your recess. 2nd coat you can run down the middle with the blade adjusted for a thinner coat. (I know, lot's of places don't do texture. At the end of the day, it's what the customer wants. Around here texture is the standard) I'm not the best but have gotten fairly proficient with boxes. Blue Line had wheels that weren't on a pivoting bar. Was able to box corner bead with no special attachments, including windows making the full 90 degree turn. Then just doing a light pass with a skimming blade. Looks great and fills nicely. And boxed with that same handle, fully extended, on 48" stilts, with the brake level with my head doing a vaulted lid. Or on stilts with the handle above my head (It's harder than it sounds. Man that hurts though, I try not to do that 🤣) Boxing is physically more taxing. You get more work done faster, and it looks decent. In all honesty you will have more touch up with boxing. They're a production tool. Spend more time touching up, less time coating, the math works out to you saving some time with tool clean up included. Best of luck to you man, I hope your projects' going well but I hope you're doing even better.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Thank you. Great info!!!

[@michaelroberts2813]

As always I really enjoy your post. Thank you and don't stop posting. Please.

[@thedrywallguyofthediy245]

Hey Ben, just wanna give you a heads-up on the leakage of the box! 3 things: (1) Your blade could be sticking out too far. (2) Your mud is too thin. (3) You were moving a little too slow with the box. I have a little tip for you also. When you are getting close to a can light or a receptacle box, grab the break before you get there, gently squeeze and lift the wheel off the drywall. Once you passed the can light and receptacle, then release the break, and continue with the flat. Hope that helps. 😊

[@CS-bh4ur]

As a DIY guy I’ll never use a box like this, but it’s a lot of fun to watch you use it and to see how it’s done.

[@bassben004]

I got boxes as a DIYer when I did 194 sheets in my basement. I got quoted like 9k during COVID to get it mudded, spent 950 on boxes. It was 100% worth it

[@kevinhamling1963]

Hey Ben, Great video. All you need now is to zoom around on your skateboard with the box yelling out more mud, I'm out of mud. 😂😂 So thanks for sharing ✌️ Peace from Melbourne Australia. Owe I'm loving your rants.

[@Observe-n-Learn]

Perfection is a goal, not a destination. Thanks for all the vids and tips!

[@rockarockarolla]

recently began adding the skim box to my skill set, these videos are a pleasure to watch. cheers

[@wootenbasset8631]

18:08 “A change is as good as a break” Thanks for validating what I surmised. I don’t hear people say that and it seems it should be a bit more common with those I know and work with.

[@PD6421]

Good use of the flat boxes. I would suggest you should try tapetech wizard handle. It’s good for tight spots and would give you more control, especially when the ceiling is that low.

[@allyg47]

I learn more about mudding from watching these videos than some of your other videos even though I don't have any of those special tools. I'm just a DIYer trying to finish my parent's walk-out basement into an apartment so I can live down there (rent is expensive so anything to save a few bucks). I guess you can call me a slacker. LOL! I was born in 1983 and growing up I was considered Gen X but when I went to college, they changed it so suddenly I was a Millennial. I've heard the term Xennials which I think fits us born in the early 80's.

[@phillyfathead]

Great “ rant” and great work ethics!👍

[@zacdrilling4554]

Ben I truly love your videos, just straight up real!!! From one mudder to another.. keeping it real bro

[@ryanodonnell1892]

Apparently I need to step up my box game. I like what I see here.

[@jimgill7524]

not that I'm an expert, just what works for me, but mud consistency wise you want to thin it just to the point that its not making a extra bit of a mess out the side of your box, also on the first coat, every time I run the box out, before I fill it I quickly go over my fills with a thoahawk skim blade. Knocks the middle down a bit, takes out the transition lines and gets rid of the bubbles. you do that and the second coat goes very smooth and quickly. Cheers from Vancouver island

[@vantuanma5967]

Thank you for your video : always informative & super contents. Hello from Toronto!

[@justinwalker7246]

Hey, Ben. Really enjoy watching and listening to your videos. Wouldn't mind seeing some carpenter ones if you got any.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I’ll get there. I’ve actually been doing mostly carpentry for the last month. Haven’t filmed anything though. I milked this job for content and now I’m just putting them out once a week.

[@manuelhg71]

Nice job... I'm not an expert on this or anything, but to me, 1, it looks like has much water in it, 2, I think number 2 on that box will work a little better... don't get me wrong with my comment, and thanks for taking the time to show us how to do it...

[@N0rth0M-1]

the inside corners look crazy good without even sanding them holy

[@HotspotsSoutheast]

I enjoy listening to your videos as much as watching. Now that my daughter is having a baby and she and her husband are moving into my basement there’s a lot of work to do down there. Lots of carpentry work, electrical work, plumbing, etc. working by myself it’s nice to have some conversation going on in the background. It passes the time quicker and I don’t feel quite so alone. Even in the evenings I’ll put on some KZbin gamers and only half watch whats going on just so I have some form of human interaction. The cats my kids left me with aren’t the most interesting conversationalists. Thanks for making these videos and not just for the educational aspect. But for the human aspect as well. Keep the conversations going!

[@Matt-my7pz]

Ben, i have barely learned the boxes helping from a young guy who kearned from jis Uncle in victoria. When we box we use a 12" trowel and blend the edges not a 6" knife all the way to the corner. Not saying its the right way by any means. Just thiught ud share for ideas. Fun video Ben. Nothing like gypsum to draw in the veiwers hey!!? 😂😂. I love it

[@nwslnk8846]

That box to bucket move looked waaay to easy! #awesome

[@yeeaahBUDDY]

*too

[@brianleys6942]

When it's dry. Use your trowel as a flat edge and check your flats if there flat. If the trowel rocks you need to adjust the box

[@larryholland1466]

Nice man. Just finished a ceiling

[@cadthunkin]

Behind cabinets....for now. I recently ripped out all upper kitchen cabinets and put in floating shelves and dedicated hood instead of microwave. I skimcoated out the orange peel so covered things but now days the drywall behind cabinets has a good chance of seeing daylight someday.

[@Zyo117]

As a property restoration worker who's company has a climate change department, yeah, no kidding. I'm the one who has to plaster the paint lines, etc when cupboards get torn out after 'natural disasters

[@dhammer5645]

You are a Xennial, a micro generation between Gen X and millennial. Edit: welcome to the club, 79 baby here.

[@elgringoec]

I'm gonna hafta look into those tools! Makes sense the dichotomy will increase. Apples don't fall far from the tree ... the sloths will continue to blame the movers and shakers for their lot, claiming they're taking more than their share.

[@Js-mw9mj]

I come here to detox. Thank you Ben!!

[@Matt-my7pz]

It is !remakable! how quickly a box and flusher moves a job along. On ceilings that have had removed walls, old drywall work, or off framing, im not a fan of how boxes leave shadows or slight corners where the plane of the mud and the drywall intersect. Looks like you addressed exactly this issue. I feel the hawk and trowel is still required to blend the edges of the box a good deal more wide. Running a box or adding mud to a corner with a Flusher takes a deal of effort and coordination. I don't know a box enough why it was dripping. Was it because you had gone over previously "boxed" spots and filled the front of the blade with mud?

[@Matt-my7pz]

Although cost to the customer and value of you as a contractor goes up, getting good with a box and a Flusher kinda takes the souls out of taping. That said I love how the flusher addresses both sides of the corner at once and does a better job than I can doing each side individually. But still it becomes more how fast you can push the box and tube to get the job done and on to the next. Taping becomes more mundane if you let it with a box possibly.

[@nswsparky]

Do you ever use a box on butts I see some big production people do. It would be neat to see how that works.

[@TheWhale45]

I Guess you don't want to let him film you beating that screw into the joist. LOL

[@MooseDoesStuff]

do you have to feather out / recoat / etc after boxing? or should it be ready for sanding?

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Should be ready for sanding

[@dennisgormley6123]

The tools work best between 2/3 and 1/3 full!

[@wootenbasset8631]

For a future video?: Is that box tool heavy to use? I am not sure if that is the right question. I am wondering how it might be affecting your joints. I thought you had an old injury that you talked about before that gets in the way of dry wall work. And now I see you using a tool that seems heavy.

[@brennanfrazier7834]

I don't know why they put those springs on. At the very end of Columbia's video on running that box the guy gives you a pro tip to take them off.

[@marjoriejudge5348]

enjoy all your videos

[@TheWhale45]

I'm wondering if it wouldn't be faster to almost level 5 with the box. Corners and Joints.

[@cidercreekranch]

Boxing day comes early this year!

[@Stan-mp8zz]

Little wet but good stuff brother

[@wanderinguser7665]

Why don't they just make drywall panels with all four edges tapered?

[@vinnyplace1269]

Working along with painting facia boards 😂

[@TheOldBlackCrow]

I wonder if there's a way to keep the mud from leaking out the sides. 🤔

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Probably

[@Yorkie285]

Good try, nice work..

[@notunauthorized]

My favorite carpenter looks younger today than yesterday hope he's having kids to spread the good will

[@mitchell6679]

He literally mentions all 4 of them haha

[@sethmann3306]

Columbia boxes drop mud out of the sides, just the way it is, especially with a new blade. Their old blue boxes are 10x better in my experience.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Good to know it’s not just me

[@AdamDotson-s1g]

Don’t push when you hit the break

[@marjoriejudge5348]

at least the area you were least happy with looked like it was the washer dryer area -

[@Matt-my7pz]

Lol unhindered*. I follow that thought.

[@HelicopterBill]

Didn't tape the corner, textured the ceiling, and now you want to remove the cabinets. Taping a textured corner sucks! Been there, done that!

[@lestalkmorebasss]

‘81 represent 😅

[@gordywaterman4814]

Do not despair...your content it marvellous, and I expect there are many out there that value your asides....I mean...one's mind goes round a bit taping interminable seams...mine does. Your rambles/rants echo much of working America's quiet crews who "get the job done"... and as such are just as validating and interesting as your step by step tutorials. The rub is that outside of an inside corner you're bound to reach a broad spectrum of enthusiasts, any one of whom may have a virulent agenda aside from mudding sheetrock just so....and who may disagree on some philosophical/political detail...and make an issue of it. Stick w/ the mud....you're a mud God...accept our reverence....and don't veer off track. We love you.....

[@andresjr7137]

Take those springs off please, makes u work harder

[@AlainStar]

🙏👏👍💪

[@Bobbob-vb9df]

This guy reminds me of dogonthejob ..

[@P46345]

Hep Z.