mayer, frusciante, trucks

[@jadengoertzen6167]

i always come back to this, the three different personalities clashing against each other in the room is just too fucking funny.

[@rollinstrummin]

John Frusciante has been around with the Red Hots for 18 years. His music is constantly changing, getting better, and incorporates ALL music that is out there. He is ROCK. The hippest one there. He RULES!!!!!!!!!

[@135789]

john frusciante is underrated in my opinion, i think he is one of the best ever because he plays what he wants just cuz he wants to and hes so versatile and has so much feeling. hes my favourite guitarist along with mike einziger(very underrated) who should be up there instead of the other two. I respect these guitarists as favourite: Hendrix, Santana, Jeff Beck, Eric Johnson, john frusciante, mike einziger.

[@leethomas7659]

I know it’s common knowledge but Hendrix was 27 when he passed, just think about that for a second......

[@geletmote]

frusciante has a unique tone, dont say shit about him

[@deezbroski]

yea, i think mayer is the best overall musician, because i really like his new music a lot. He is also the best blues guitarist here, and Trucks is the best slide guitarist here, which doesn't mean a lot, because he is the only one here, but he really is a genious, he doesn't get enough credit, he plays so beautifully. But I feel that frusciante is on a different level than these guys, guitar wise.

[@andrewcruz7595]

*I always get inspired coming back to this*

[@geletmote]

fru wasnt even trying, although i thought he liked the end bit of trucks

[@135789]

i forgot to mention gary moore as one of those favourites

[@lacruzdelgato]

As a big fan of J. Frusciante, I have to admit he seems a bit "out of place" when u see this video. He's not really a blues, heavy, or rock guitar player. However, he goes in a completely different style that makes him unique and AMAZING. Besides, he's more experienced and dedicated to music. I recommend his solo albums.

[@leethomas7659]

lacruzdelgato I reckon he goes alright at the rock stuff..

[@andrewcruz7595]

*He's a great rock Guitarist lol*

[@limoncr5205]

@@andrewcruz7595 that's what he is at the core.

[@f.castropaoletti877]

Is difficult to judge a guitarrist really, this 3 are amazing young players. I think Frusciante in this moment got used to playing a lot with more volume and more pedals that create a fuzzy sound and needed that to feel in an high level, while Mayer and Derek feel very comforable in that quiet position. The 3 of them on stage are amazing in their own particular way.

[@Mike3303]

You obviously have never seen Frusciante solo on video live.

[@marton_ratkai]

how can he do the female singer thing?it sounds awesome.

[@deezbroski]

I agree except the i think Froosh is one of the best songwriters to ever grace this earth. He pretty much produces Chili albums, they just let his ideas turn into what he pictures it turning out like. And his solo stuff has such a wide variety of music, but its so well written, and phrased and put together. He is a great writer man. But i agree w/ you that SRV was one of the best.

[@deezbroski]

ooo, whats with the gig? televised? hook me up with the details bro. plz :)

[@deezbroski]

jeff beck is definitely pushing guitar to its limits. one of the best to ever live no doubt.

[@Genny88]

froo froo

[@deezbroski]

Yea, Clapton is amazing, but ever since his cream days he hasn't been the same. In an interview he even said he looked back on his old vids and realized how much better he was back then, and that a lot of stuff he used to do he doesn't do anymore. But Clapton w/ Cream was one of the greatest, no doubt.

[@leethomas7659]

Jeremy1281988 he simply doesn’t have Ginger and Jack pushing him. Tad lazy but I guess he wears the Slowhand name for a reason.

[@guizones1978]

@@leethomas7659 the slowhand nickname was due to a concert where the strings broke and it took long to change, nothing to do with his stykle of playing which is not slow at all.

[@mselonke]

dereck trucks.. no more words

[@135789]

how could he be making a million a show thats ridiculous where did you find that? RHCP always headlines the big festivals worldwide, plus they always get the biggest venues to sell them out. as a matter of fact their hyde park concert is the highest grossing concert ever apparently it broke a few records. i've researched album sales they aren't even close aside from continuum or try.

[@TheNirvan999]

Why frusicante not soloing with them ? He plays only the blues shuffle . I am not being judgemental but observing what frusicante is doing ?

[@JustAnotherBlader]

nirvan jasrotia because he has nothing to prove. He’s bored and probably doesn’t even want to be there. He doesn’t play to display “look at me the guitar god” he plays as he is moved to.

[@JustAnotherBlader]

nirvan jasrotia I mean at the end, JF is the first to ask “that’s it?” Like he just wants to leave. Also blues is not his forte, but the other 2 are blues devotees. John isn’t interested in pure blues he plays more creative stuff.

[@deezbroski]

Stadium Arcadium also hit #1 on every single music chart world wide. SA was nominated for 7 grammies (won around 5 or more) Continuum nominated for 3 grammies (won 2) Search for yourself if you don't believe me :)

[@135789]

funny because i looked on the billboard site for continuum's stats and it says that it never hit number one and it also says that its fair way from the top 100. and yes i know his earnings from past records and tours, they were nothing worth talking about. so one of his albums went doulbe albums double platinum? so what? and he won't earn two million from playing some festival he probably isn't even headlining

[@zoroisdead]

they're taking turns, it's called jamming, frusciante takes the lead 2:10-2:30, don't doubt frusciantes capabilities, if he wanted to throw out a million notes a minute like trucks does when he's not using his slide, then he very well could, better actually, with something called soul. Frusciante has way more dimension than either of the men on his left.

[@deezbroski]

saweet dude, will check my tv listings and find the time. :) thanks.

[@ThShifties]

This is a good clip, hadn't seen it before. You can see the others' admiration of the sound Trucks coaxes from the slide -- for more genius, check out the Herbie Hancock version of 'Space Captain'. Slide guitar is something of an acquired taste, which is how artists like Sonny Landreth and Roy Rogers went largely unnoticed for years, even though they were clearly better than most of the stars. Clapton's heir is Joe Bonamassa, not Mayer or Frusciante. Another underrated singer.

[@deezbroski]

Lol, i agree with lots of what you say dude, but this one was great. "I have made every valid arguement, I don't make "arguements" though." haha. any way carry on

[@deezbroski]

good for you then dude. and to be honest, the Chili's are/and will go down as one of the best. as much as you don't want to believe it, its beyond your control :)

[@leeroyuk45]

id say technically frusciante isnt the best here but in terms of song writing/ artistic approach, he's in the lead by a mile. einziger is an ace guitarist "a crow left of the murder" is such an over-looked album at the end of the day it comes down to style and preferences, i mean trucks blew me away with his slide work man, even mayer and frusciante seemed impressed!

[@Kopacetix]

wow to all of them

[@TruTrail]

Trucks is a bad, bad man.

[@135789]

i never said that stevie used 13 for all of his strings. aside from that you couldn't make any counter argument for anything else. It's all true. as for grammy's with covers of great artists, that means nothing. "Oh, and by the way," overreated means that you get more credit than what is really due(SRV).

[@135789]

but as we've both said before, it doesn't matter.

[@deezbroski]

congratulations, the Chili's latest albums, we won't even talk about their what 8ish albums before, won multiple grammies, and was at the top of charts, and of course is multi platinum. the fact that you even compare Mayer with the Chili's is ludacris. Mayer has a lot to prove still, Chili's have solidified themselves as one of the greatest rock bands in history and have been makin music for what 2 and a half decades?

[@JustAnotherBlader]

As soon as the other 2 are done with their little show and tell, JF immediately asks if the shoot is done lol. Like he just wants to leave. Love John he’s a true artist.

[@deezbroski]

Frusciante is a beast, Mayer is good just unoriginal, but dude, SRV was bad ass! you can't hate that guy can you? he was a fine guitar player i think.

[@135789]

elischweyer1, you couldn't be more right

[@MagnusMarthinsen]

John Mcglauglin has become a old man, i dont think he deserve to be a guitar god in year 2007.

[@deezbroski]

i believe you were the one who brought the chili peppers into it, i showed you facts, now your all bitter. its ok dude, don't be mad. playing guitar isn't a freakin' sport, i'm even mad at myself for being in conversations like this, its just i hate people talkin' trash on frusciante. Derek, Mayer, and Frusciante all all great, and i listen to all of them a lot.

[@135789]

"Hmm let's see You say after Crossroads you're not impressed with John However, i don't think Frusciante was even invited Yeah, he wasn't Crossroads is for the best guitarists there are" that was what you said to my first comment.

[@leeroyuk45]

id agree

[@135789]

lol, in fact i called you out on it before as i have on many things and you just changed the subject again. there is a pattern in that.

[@135789]

jeremy notice that i spelled argument the right way, and i only quoted it as what he said. copy and paste next time. there is no e after the u

[@deezbroski]

ah nvm. i get what you were saying.

[@135789]

don't think that i'm gonna argue with you but "the peaks that Hendrix, Clapton, Paige,...etc brought the guitar to aren't going to be surpassed." hendrix somewhat reached peaks, he is considered the greatest. i just don't see what peaks clapton and especially page got to that won't be surpassed. for their generation others reached peaks. JEFF BECK for sure. as for surpassing peaks, what about ERIC JOHNSON.

[@jobaba64]

Neither guy can hang with Derek Trucks at blues. That's his style. Yea, Mayer knows some stock flash licks, but he's not a blues player on Truck's level...

[@135789]

career stats on this stuff is not even close either. there was never a point when he has made as much or more money than them. but it doesn't matter.

[@deezbroski]

lol :) cool.

[@135789]

it's not critique. i was referring to their musical mode, so to speak. that's why he doesn't amaze me at all, neither does clapton(in this day and age) or SRV who looked intense while playing but i don't see what the fuss was about. all of them always sound painfully the same and some obvious ones severely lack originality. the most bluesy players i like are Gary Moore and Santana(although his style of play is very much kept for his whole career).

[@deezbroski]

yea he does have a better falsetto voice, but i do like Mayer's music overall more than Frusciante's solo records, but the Chili's are better than Mayer or his trio. I can't really compare a blues guitarist (mayer), to a slide guitarist (trucks), to a everything guitarist (john).. i dont really know how to describe his playing, from the chili's funky, rock and roll distoreted, wah sounds with bad ass riffs, to an acoutsitc with classical solo's on his own albums, truly a genious.

[@135789]

actually the chili peppers were in the 30's of vh1's list as well as being shown this accolade by rolling stone, the billboard awards, the european music awards amongst other things. if you can prove to me that mayer makes that much i'll belieey don't compare it but i've checked his earnings from previous albums and tours and they don't compare at all. the chili peppers divide their money equally and with the touring they've done, john mayer is poor in comparison.

[@135789]

this is what happened on thachau' bold as love: "you're extremely idiotic. John Frusciante is fucking awesome. as for derek trucks and john mayer, you should have attended this years crossroads festival. after crossroads i have respect for both john mayer and derek trucks although neither of them amaze me with a guitar." that was my reply to drumerart8 after he dissed JF.

[@oilgland]

Its not that Fru isnt comfortable with the blues i dont think.. Hes prob just bored with it.. Hes not really about the playing so much as about being creative,, sometimes that might mean playing an awsome solo sometimes it might mean playing one note.. Hes in a different space all together than these guys theres really no point in comparing.. Totally different musicians just depends what your into,, its all subjective :-)

[@leethomas7659]

Aaron Lawrie excellent point well put. I’m a rabid Hendrix fan so I guess I lean towards Johnny out of this lot.

[@135789]

john mayer has not made more or even as much money as the chili peppers(research), but that doesn't matter anyway. john mayer isn't the only singer either, john has a great voice which he has used all over his music, so that's a dumb thing to say as well. You're opinion is biased more than anyone i've seen on here. in saying who you like just say you like him more don't say that hes better.

[@135789]

Carlos Santana, Allan Holdsworth, Larry Carlton, Steve Morse, Billy Gibbons, Johnny Winter, Jeff Baxter, Prince, B.B. King, Joe Satriani, Stevie Ray Vaughan, buddy guy and eric clapton have all heavily praised him. his technique is as superior as his stylistic diversity. his voice is great as well. every formally trained guitarist i've spoken to has agreed with me (england, canada, and US etc.) as well as all the well known magazines of guitar. Disappointment? why because hes not mainstream?

[@135789]

show me where clapton said mayer is god like. that line was a mistake, he will always* avoid loss. you can't tell me anything just about stevies playing that makes him the "greatest". i've said all of his characteristics they are all right.

[@guizones1978]

Are you saying there is no argument that SRV could be the best guitar player ever ?

[@135789]

actually i checked the stats from his tours in the money makers list and rhcp was leagues higher. his albums didn't even sell in the millions when it was counted. you brought up wrong facts about his latest albums as well. actually look on billboard before stating crap. BTW you dissed frusciante first on two different bold as love videos. sort your own morals. if you'd like i can send you the stats and when you started the arguments.

[@135789]

saying that JF only plays bar chord based songs with mediocre solos? thats not an opinionts not true. because you can't back it up as i. and you said that because someone said they liked him. you instigated that. and in my other first comment i said that i respected mayer the day after i saw this years crossroads but he doesn't amze me because he can only play using one mode(prove me wrong). you came with a jackass comment about JF not playing crossroads(he was booked anyway).

[@135789]

I could cover little wing and improvise over it with minor pentatonics/blues solos etc. which is all that stevie ever did. I've never even seen him throw in major pentatonic mixtures or any dorian. "gathered the masses to discover it" that's a laughable load of crap.

[@135789]

instigating? I just showed the proof. yes you're "Real BADASS". read the bold as love comments i was telling you the whole time that you were speaking out of opinion but you went on. others and i defended more guitarists than JF. real thing? mayer went to berklee, i was invited to visit there each of the past 3 summers, and to take part in organising clinics, im still in musical secondary school in toronto doing advanced training.

[@135789]

i never said frusciante's success made him better than mayer, i just said hes had more, i even went on to say that it did not matter anyway. go back and read it before you talk shit. BTW you were the first one to come on here and start that with someone else. either way i stated in my last comment that eric johnson is successful, just not in mainstream, you had the nerve to claim his work as "disappointing".

[@rhcpxlove]

frooooooo

[@deezbroski]

come on dude, don't bring Crossroads into this. First off, even if invited, the chances that Frusciante would go is VERY unlikely. he isn't like that, he left that band for 6 years because he hated leaving underground. Also, he doesn't like to boast or show what he can do. But a lot of those guitarists you mentioned are also very, if not all, blues related, which frusciante is not. I know vai and frusciante are friends and vai respects frusciante a lot, though.

[@135789]

to play coinciding lead & rhythm parts which he did, were done better by hendrix who he got it from, and they are done way better than srv by other better guitarists. he took a lot from a few guitarists before him (which is not necessary, as you can just learn to play the guitar and develop your own style from musical learnings) and that's very evident, but he only took from one style guitar playing. he was good obviously because he had many fans, but he ain't the greatest. no way.

[@deezbroski]

please, stick to comparing Frusciante and Mayer, and do not bring a far superior band into this. there is absolutely no reason for that. But even comparing Mayer and Frusciante is rediculous, they are both very good, just some Mayer fans have no clue about what they are saying. Aren't you the fan that said Mayer's bold as love cover was better than Hendrix's original? or that Mayer is the best blues guitarist ever? lol if it wasn't you it was one of the many of you lurking around.

[@135789]

continuum never even hit #1, it is not in the top 50 on the billboards and hasn't been even close for a while now, i know the shows that he plays and they don't have nearly enough magnitude for that. i'd like to see documentation. other than that his previous statistics are not comparable. RHCP is still the stadium band and headliner that they have been since BSSM, those stats outweigh as well. they have many records worldwide, especially in live shows.

[@deezbroski]

Eric clapton was bomb w/ cream. Page is vastly overrated. and Frusciante isn't the best, but is a great player, and the best goin' now. Eric Johnson is one of the best guitarists i have ever had the privledge of listening to.

[@135789]

i don't hate SRV i just think hes very overrated and can never be considered the greatest...ever.

[@135789]

blind? tell me one thing just about stevie's playing that made him the "greatest ever". he looked intense on stage as he sweated buckets and made faces, aside from that his usage of quite thick strings on a stratocaster(with his tuning) is what you can thank for that tone and sound. he did nothing new on a guitar, and he could not write all that well. he is not the greatest, no way and that's a laughable concept.

[@135789]

like i said, there is no such word as "arguEments". as for basing something on one word. look at your elaboration on the word "twat". that's why i said that you don't read much in comments. you had no comeback when i proved your accusations wrong.

[@135789]

try not concentrating on one word i used and seeing the point in a comment for once. if you reply again actually counter argue my comments.

[@135789]

i hate rolling stone, they're the quickest to rank label anything to do with guitar. i mean they could even have put Mike Einziger and joe bonamassa up there as well. whats the difference. rolling stone stop with your lists. there are no guitar gods. John Frusciante is the best right now in my opinion though, because im a huge fan of RHCP and him. Mike Einziger is also great, incubus is so awesome

[@deezbroski]

hey bro, why are you arguing about bands? its clear to everyone, except you, that the Chili's are superior to the Trio or his reg. band. but bringin' up the Chili's is retarded. I'm also pretty sure Stadium Arcadium outsold Continuum. Anyway's, to get back to the guitarists. Is SRV a bigger influence on Mayer than Hendrix? i see a lot more of SRV in him.

[@135789]

Your* reading skills are poor. I almost sounded like you there.

[@135789]

then you proceeded to insult steve vai in self contradiction, you tried to brag about owning pro tools, and promised to post a video. then on to the other Bold as love by troubleteen01. i randomly received a private message from tjmurray78 saying that you were talking shit about JF and then i go there and see " frusciante is good if you like only bar chord based songs with mediocre solos" it didn't get any better from you on that video.

[@135789]

he played nothing new in terms of style, perhaps you could tell me what he did that hadn't been done virtually the same way before, im thinking licks. his tone is noticed but with a string gauge 13 or higher, a tuning of a half step down and the rig he had (amps and guitars his tech provided), the tone is inevitable. as for covers, people cover songs that they favour highly.

[@clintostwald435]

Mayer is by far the most boring player of the three

[@135789]

i would never diss hendrix, i just said that he was the greatest guitarist ever and he is widely regarded as that. there are many guitarists superior to page, he is not that good of a player, sloppy minor pentatonics and he is the worst live guitarist i've ever seen.

[@samdownes93]

John Frusciante is a fish out of water when sat next to two good guitar players.

[@deezbroski]

I agree except the i think Froosh is one of the best songwriters to ever grace this earth. He pretty much produces Chili albums, they just let his ideas turn into what he pictures it turning out like. And his solo stuff has such a wide variety of music, but its so well written, and phrased and put together. He is a great writer man. But i agree w/ you that SRV was one of the best.