Maynard Ferguson - Country Boy (1963)

[@peterhaslund]

Holman Magic

[@adamecomp]

Beautiful tone on that Baritone!!!

[@joksal9108]

Valve trombone.

[@theabidingdudeabides]

All hail the super bone!

[@huskidawgs]

Ricktpt1 is right. That's a valve bone. I play this in concert on a slide trombone, but I also play valve bone and, yes, a euphonium--which is way different in sound.

[@Ricktpt1]

Ten out of ten for repeat post enthusiasm, but not quite so good for accuracy. You can tell it's a Valve Trombone because of the projection (tightness in the taper of the Bell) and a more nasal quality to the valve squeezes. (It also doesn't hurt that it specifies it as such in the Liner Notes.) Over the course of his career, he recorded on nearly every instrument in the Brass family. (The Orchestral higher pitched trumpets and Tuba are probably an exception and I'm not certain about Tuba.) Valve Trombone is brighter and projects more than Baritone and Baritone is brighter and projects more than Euphonium. Your descriptions of the differences are spot on. It's just not what he's playing. In that particular big band (especially pre-PEAVEY PA era) the typical "Frederick Fennell" Euphonium sound would get eaten for lunch and left for dead.

[@sdhinote]

This is pre-Supebone. Baritone horn.

[@adamecomp]

Sounds Billy May like in the arrangement...

[@peterhaslund]

Nope, different Bill - Holman

[@jorgecallico9177]

Actually you're all wrong. If indeed Maynard is playing what you're calling a "Baritone"? well it's really a "Euphonium"... A baritone does exist but it's bore is much smaller throughout. Sounds and plays more like a Valve Trombone. Whereas the Euphonium sounds bigger and more mellow. The Euphonium compares to a Baritone the way a Flugel Horn does to a Trumpet. I played all three instruments in H/School. Euphonium for concert & marching bands. Valve Trombone in Jazz band (occasionally playing the real Baritone before my brother bought me a valve T-bone). and the trumpet for a screech chart in the jazz band in my senior year. because the high school bland director stuck me on trombone even tho I was the best trumpet player in the band. So I transcribed Maynard's "Hey Jude" because I knew that no one one else in the band could play it. My band director wasn't very helpful to my young career. He had a budding young screech/lead trumpet player in his band but stuck me on trombone. Purposefully trying to thwart my career. Never the less I STILL got accepted to music college because I'd practice Trumpet at home three goyrs every day. Yet it wasn't until my freshman year at college that I'd ever play in a school marching and concert bland. This put me a little behind the others in terms of sight reading but I soon caught up with the other trumpet students. Plus none if them had my high range. In thw jazz band I took possession of the lead book right off the bat. None if the other trumpets had my range or big sound. So I pulled the lead book away from a couple seniors, Two juniors and a sophomore. None if them had the chops like I did. i credit Maynard's influence at inspiring many kids to become lead trumpet players. Also range & endurance are CRUCIAL in big band trumpet sections and so few people have the chops. Part if this is because college music schools don't emphasize jazz. Only classical music which historically doesn't require much high range. That and certainly not a big sound. At times I get a chuckle out of my experience. While I was far from tbe best classical trumpet player in the college music dept. HOWEVER I was the only one who played professionally on the trumpet after I left school. Plus I had so many negative people around me discouraging me from playing the trumpet. Those were some hard times. Man it was sad... but here I am today going on 62 years old and STILL playing lead trumpet with a pretty decent big band. Folks you gotta BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!!! Because no one else can always be depended upon to back you up. And having talent can sometimes be a curse. As people are jealous and will conspire against you. I'm talking about people in powerful positions compared to you. People like my old high school band director. He SHOULD HAVE ENCOURAGED ME! But instead he let his petty jealousy infect our teacher/student relationship. Actually here's the TRUTH about him: As a trumpet player himself he was pretty good. He even had more range than me at the time. (I had a high G to A, he had a Double C...) However he never got a truly big sound! lol!!!! Years later he admitted this privately to others. Saying : "Jorge always had THE SOUND..." but he never told me that back when I could have used a little encouragement. (continued)

[@jorgecallico9177]

Actually you're all wrong. If indeed Maynard is playing what you're calling a "Baritone"? well it's really a "Euphonium"... A baritone does exist but it's bore is much smaller throughout. Sounds and plays more like a Valve Trombone. Whereas the Euphonium sounds bigger and more mellow. The Euphonium compares to a Baritone the way a Flugel Horn does to a Trumpet. I played all three instruments in H/School. Euphonium for concert & marching bands. Valve Trombone in Jazz band (occasionally playing the real Baritone before my brother bought me a valve T-bone). and the trumpet for a screech chart in the jazz band in my senior year. because the high school bland director stuck me on trombone even tho I was the best trumpet player in the band. So I transcribed Maynard's "Hey Jude" because I knew that no one one else in the band could play it. My band director wasn't very helpful to my young career. He had a budding young screech/lead trumpet player in his band but stuck me on trombone. Purposefully trying to thwart my career. Never the less I STILL got accepted to music college because I'd practice Trumpet at home three goyrs every day. Yet it wasn't until my freshman year at college that I'd ever play in a school marching and concert bland. This put me a little behind the others in terms of sight reading but I soon caught up with the other trumpet students. Plus none if them had my high range. In thw jazz band I took possession of the lead book right off the bat. None if the other trumpets had my range or big sound. So I pulled the lead book away from a couple seniors, Two juniors and a sophomore. None if them had the chops like I did. i credit Maynard's influence at inspiring many kids to become lead trumpet players. Also range & endurance are CRUCIAL in big band trumpet sections and so few people have the chops. Part if this is because college music schools don't emphasize jazz. Only classical music which historically doesn't require much high range. That and certainly not a big sound. At times I get a chuckle out of my experience. While I was far from tbe best classical trumpet player in the college music dept. HOWEVER I was the only one who played professionally on the trumpet after I left school. Plus I had so many negative people around me discouraging me from playing the trumpet. Those were some hard times. Man it was sad... but here I am today going on 62 years old and STILL playing lead trumpet with a pretty decent big band. Folks you gotta BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!!! Because no one else can always be depended upon to back you up. And having talent can sometimes be a curse. As people are jealous and will conspire against you. I'm talking about people in powerful positions compared to you. People like my old high school band director. He SHOULD HAVE ENCOURAGED ME! But instead he let his petty jealousy infect our teacher/student relationship. Actually here's the TRUTH about him: As a trumpet player himself he was pretty good. He even had more range than me at the time. (I had a high G to A, he had a Double C...) However he never got a truly big sound! lol!!!! Years later he admitted this privately to others. Saying : "Jorge always had THE SOUND..." but he never told me that back when I could have used a little encouragement. (continued)

[@aarondyer9592]

In this recording, Maynard is playing a Superbone, which is like valve trombone, but with a slide as well. You can tell by the scoops and glissandos that would not be possible with only valves.

[@awreckingball]

That's obviously not a euphonium, you dumbass.

[@joksal9108]

@@aarondyer9592Years before the Superbone. This is a valve trombone.

[@joksal9108]

Maynard hated the term “screech trumpet”. You want a good sound up there.