MAZDA BT50 Breakdown update. Part 2

[@shawsie5780]

I bought the 3.2ltr BT back in 2012 when it come out, after 3yrs I was on my 3rd motor, since then I've been running the 4j Isuzu which has been bulletproof

[@Dragonface432]

I have a 2012. 12 years old 140k km and everything original and healthy.

[@davidp6923]

I have a friend that has an automotive repair business, in 2023 he rebuilt 115 ranger/mazda motors and 75 manual gearboxes, they just coming

[@rodneyhinkley7910]

I don't believe you its not that common and i'd know ! Because i repair more Toyota D4Ds that anything else ,We have a very big repair /Reconditioning shop

[@ZAN-THE-GOAT]

@@rodneyhinkley7910Where is your workshop? I need some work done.

[@rodneyhinkley7910]

@@ZAN-THE-GOATYou won't be able to come to it ! It's a third party shop meaning engines are brought to us rebuild from over 300 plus workshops and sent back Thats all we do ! No off street customers

[@frankguernier2280]

Such bad luck but you are home safe. That's the important thing. It's a known problem. John Cadogan just didg a video comparing fords two motors. He clearly stated it's happening to many people at around 80000klms.

[@mvnorsel6354]

What John says is the truth😅.

[@stewartknight7464]

BT50 now come with Isuzu motors, they have the 4jj1, and 4jj3 engines, the 4jj1 motor is a commercial engine which have a B10 rating which means 90% of them reach 500,000kms, my mate was recently complaining his Isuzu fuel pump needed rebuilding, I asked how many kms, he said 540, 000 kms, such a proven motor.

[@shawsie5780]

💯, 4j's are rock solid

[@bobss3704]

In defence of the 5 cylinder engine, mine is a 2012 BT50 with 240,000 Kms and has done some hard offroad and long distance travel and has never missed a beat (so far)! Oil change and fuel filter every 10,000 KMs and prefilter clean has made it pretty reliable.

[@OakesyAdventures]

I wish mine was like that

[@mitchell5064]

very hit and miss engines

[@TonyTony-rd4rj]

Do regular oil changes very 7,500kms if you tow heavy trailers.

[@gordinistanopolis]

I'm mechanic for over 40 years I just did a service on one of these, winding out sump plug it was tight all the way , draining the oil I was inspecting sump pan thread damaged thru overtightening previously (Lady in the Army so vehicle had been serviced many places) plug thread damaged also . I wouldn't have time to repair the thread or order another sump plug did the stupid engine design team never think of such a scenario !! I gingerly reinstalled damaged plug being very careful not to strip it completely (Heart in the mouth stuff I don't need )filled oil then Informed customer of what I found (to be fair she took the bad news very well) and that probably best to get it done at a Mazda Dealership as if it has to be helicoiled and it goes over the 10-15 min window they would be well prepared to do the manual reprime of the oil pump on the next oil change. Bloody ridiculous. I mean oil changes on these motors is stressful enough without this happening !

[@sergeantmagi]

Thanks for your time in making the cover more transparent for others. Safe travels Buddy. 😎

[@OakesyAdventures]

👍

[@rossawood5075]

Jefferson Ford in Mentone Victoria supply new series 1 Ranger 3.2 5 cylinder long motors for $8,400, if you buy new, or recondition make sure you have a constant flow oil pump fitted to replace the less reliable variable flow pump that requires fast oil changes. The extra oil pressure will be an advantage, the miserable economy gained by the variable pump pales with failure of pump or the inability to pickup oil if service interval is too long, or you hole the sump in remote location and repair hole, pump will not pickup without majorly flooding engine with oil, then draining off excess when started. Constant flow pumps were fitted to some commercial 5 cylinder variations in Europe, this conventional geared type are considered far longer lived and more reliable. Definitely replace the EGR cooler, however personally I would be bypassing the water flow from top heater firewall outlet from the cooler and reconnecting to pipe connector (2 possibilities) after the EGR can prevent future hydrolocking if EGR fails and fills exhaust manifold as has happened. If pre 2015.5 a simple EGR cable installed at air cleaner area will deactivate EGR exhaust gas operation, Replace all injectors with quality new injectors, keep good originals for spares, (have tested) Replace turbo and actuator with new, some higher quality aftermarket billet turbos with better billet vanes, and can increase boost by 20% safely, remap engine computer to take advantage of increased torque. The cost less than OEM much of the time and come complete with brand new actuator, stage 1 units around $900.00. If pre Cat vehicle replace exhaust down pipe with aftermarket free flow 3 inch unit and 3 inch exhaust. Replace original plastic ended intercooler with better quality larger alloy body unit, will cool much better. Definitely if auto replace appalling OEM small water cooled transmission close coupled cooler with Wholesale Automatics front mount twin cooler unit for heavy towing. These mods will make the 3.2 5 cylinder engine far more reliable and pull more power safely. This engine is understressed and can develop considerably more power than the standard admittedly slightly more powerful bi turbo 2 liter( however most tuners feel its pretty well on its limits for reliability) wheras the 3.2 can pull better numbers with sensible upgrades to around 215 KW and well over 600 nm. I've done these modifications to my 2015 PX 1 early in its life. and it has definitely more torque and has proved very reliable at 160 k and we pull a 2800kg caravan. Alternatively IMO the most reliable conventional std engines are the Mitsibishi and the later Maxda BT 50 or Isuzu D' Max with the 3 liter Isuzu diesel, the Mitsi while reliable isn't as poweful as the Ranger or Mazda /Isuzu though. The Isuzu engine is also capable of large power and torque increase with simple remap and has very good torque spread standard, we also own a 2021 Mazda BT 50 with this engine, it is often underatted in reviews for it sustained pulling power IMO. Jus sayin'

[@SomethingFunny1985]

Thanks for the update. For what it's worth it made me review my coverage and I now know that my caravan might not get towed. Appreciate the original vid.

[@OakesyAdventures]

Have a read of. zoezoe610 Random Travels comment its worth a read.

[@SomethingFunny1985]

@@OakesyAdventures thanks. Very interesting

[@olamabambi4193]

Your channel has generated great information in regards to insurance and reading the details or getting further information. In regards to the engine I would have liked to have looked at it myself to give you an expert opinion but obviously that is not possible due to distance. Don’t be afraid to ask for pictures of damage or to be shown the actual damage. I personally have a different perspective on repairs as what can look like a blown engine is not always the case. Moving forward try to recover what money you can from insurance with new info subscribers have provided and even contact a lawyer to be informed of entitlements under law you may not have been aware of in relation to insurance. I wish you a speedy recovery and hope to see you on the road once again. 🙌

[@OakesyAdventures]

Thanks Mate.

[@VK6RM]

Fix one or two of these a month. They only blow up due to: 1. Incompetent mechanics not identifying that the fuel injectors require replacement. 2. A failing EGR valve and or cooler not being identified prior to failure. And most commonly. 3. Idiots running these things well above GCM / GVM.

[@rodneyhinkley7910]

The busted piston will be from injector failure which is common on all common rail engines, All brands do it ! It's up to you to have injectors checked periodically ! The injector fails by firing a pin like of diesel at over 30,000 psi which bores a hole through the piston ,hence the damage ,a normal injector will mist the bore all of this is caused by dirty fuel /faulty injector

[@tonymontana897]

Direct injection is always risky I guess. Can a diesel be port injected ? I don't know.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

True diesels rely on the carefully timed injection of fuel. If the fuel just came in when the intake opened then the correct ratio for ignition might or might not be present... and it could pre ignite.. or not ignite at all. Direct injection by coomon rail is the latest iteration of getting diesl into the cyclinder. Before that it was mecanical/electronic control single low ressure injectors. before that indirect injection where the spray of low pressure 2800lbs sq inch was first squirted into a chamber in the head, then it spread out into the cylinder. Common rail diesel is more refined but as we see can erode a piston top with 30k lbs sq inch direct jet when the injector tip clogs and the spray no longer sprays...... @@tonymontana897

[@twisted_panties]

Nonsense, stop being a Ford apologist.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

As my censored earlier reply said..no. The diesel has to be injected at the right time into the compressed air as the piston comes up to TDC on the compression stroke... if the diesel was swept into the cylinder along with the air the diesel fuel would/could ignite early.... @@tonymontana897

[@rodneyhinkley7910]

@@twisted_panties Well i work in this area for another company unrelated To ford and actually more d4d #litre hilux,prodo engine actually go bang more ,ALL common rail diesels have this problem ,dirty fuel is number one killer ,You don't know so keep your comments to yourself !

[@robertaus8420]

These engines have a renowned reputation at exploding it would be great if companies would step to the plate and take responsibility for a shit design. Best of luck to you with it.

[@Muffin_Masher]

At least Mazda have cut ties with Ford and got into bed with Isuzu instead :) Ford will keep making nuggets just like they always have :(

[@robertaus8420]

@@Muffin_Masher yeah hopefully they use a better recipe

[@benni727]

it says in the book it's recommended to replace injectors every 100,000k with the fuel rails. If injectors were replaced it wouldn't have been a issue. 100odd motors isn't bad considering 1 in 10 cars on the road is a ranger or bt50

[@riverside2096]

The gods must be looking after you Oakesy. Blown engine one week, early retirement present the next!😎

[@67hr74]

Glad to see you're getting it sorted Oakesy. While you're reading your PDS check for cover with fire in a MV. I found out my wife's Subaru wasn't covered with RAC in the event of it catching fire. If it was result of an accident then that's covered. It maybe different with Premium cover though. Best of luck with the repair.

[@OakesyAdventures]

I will Thank you for the heads up.

[@MR-dv6ms]

I see this time after time with vehicles towing close to their capacity. Australia is tough on cars and towing big vans close to the load limit is a recipe for disaster. People talk about the 80% rule. meaning not to tow over 80% of the max off your vehicle for longevity and safety buffer with braking etc.

[@oliverdouglas9370]

I feel yr pain mate, same thing hapnd to me, luckily we found out that RAC do cover engine failure, in the end I had a brand spanking new engine out of the crate , new injectors and turbo and hoses plus common rail all up 26k I paid 10k, so now I'm loving my bt50

[@OakesyAdventures]

thanks for the reply i rang RAC and they said to bad but now going to call them again.

[@oliverdouglas9370]

U would mate the guy my wife spoke to told her that it's not in yr policy anywhere but if u call and ask the question, stupid really they said many people never thought to call up the claims Dept so they cover the cost themselves not knowing that there insurance does cover engine failure u just have to ask

[@stewartknight7464]

As most people know by now the 3.2 5 cyclinder motor has a special requirement when a oil change is done, it has to be completed with in 10 minutes, filter and oil because the oil pump does not self prime itself, not a good design I think this motor is similar to the Volvo design, Toyota had similar issues with there 3. Litre diesel cracking pistons, what stood out to me was the gudgen pin to close to crown of piston. Toyota 2.8 diesel is a gem

[@whiteshark0000]

a familiar sight is seeing a BT50 or Ford Ranger being loaded onto a flat bed tow truck in the middle of nowhere .Let it be a lesson to the unwary buyer

[@darrenicon5172]

Simple fact trying to force to much hp and torque out of these small engines is causing these problems if you have been around long enough you would know this. 🔥💲🔥

[@OakesyAdventures]

And they are getting smaller each year.

[@cbeuck5024]

Wise words....have passed on both vlogs to son In Q. He has an older Patrol with converted to van slide on camper. He travels interstate- has had issue with motor - is he covered? Myself? Car only but do travel interstate - must read the fine print!,Good luck with getting back on the road and when you do safe travels Jan Adelaide

[@zoezoe610]

We have the same policy and if you are outside of the 300k towing range and the tow truck charges more you submit that invoice to the RAC and they reimburse you from the $7000 part of the cover.

[@OakesyAdventures]

Ok why didnt they tell me that. thats very strange.

[@zoezoe610]

@@OakesyAdventures They told me out of pocket expenses like towing are deducted from the $7000 cover. How he explained it to me is that the contractor gets a certain amount for towing a van up 300k and to a length of 5.5 meters and for larger vans they add more cost being a bigger van. This part we claim back and the policy would be useless otherwise because most vans are bigger and if they measured ours from the hitch to the rear ours is 9 meters. 3.5 ton is their limit though. He told me you submit your invoice to RAC claims and they refund you.

[@OakesyAdventures]

@@zoezoe610 thank you for sharing this information

[@tonymontana897]

A video of the engine dissection would be great so we can see the damage and what the root cause was. The general consensus is a faulty injector ?? I reckon a Hilux would be the better choice than a Mazda.

[@OakesyAdventures]

Yes the diesel Machanic that came out said 100% failed injector he has seen this a number of times and same blow by into the crank case.

[@stevenloynds3691]

In no way im being offensive tbh i viewed the breakdown video and mate to me you looked very heavy i think looking at it you pretty much have every bell and whistles in mods and gear...if you have had to mod the BT50 to get it to do what you want it to do its not the right car...keeping the vehicle in its standard form is how they operate best no matter the mods....looking at that van you want something that is pretty much set up for the task straight out of the box....that way you can feel a little more comfortable that you are within limits of the vehicles design...that means longevity...I would also like to add as a truck driver so know a bit with towing....all manufacturers blow out there ass with towing capacity....its a fact that if the van is heavier then the vehicle towing its a recipe for disaster and a sure way of having an accident one day its science no matter the mods....you need a big vehicle for that van one for safety two for health of the engine of the towing vehicle.

[@OakesyAdventures]

Much agree but everyone keeps on about the weight of the van it looks like a off road Van but it's not it a on road Van just raised the total weight loaded is around 2.7t as the van empty 2.19t. Thanks for you feed back.

[@joelawrence56]

exactly!

[@neilmaverick7035]

Internaly under the main bearing there is a pencil type oil filter feeding the turbo You can not get to it to service it I would recommend Neil Herbit at the engine shop canning vale for a rebuild

[@OakesyAdventures]

Thanks

[@ScatManAust]

There is no substitute for cubic capacity. Small engines pumped up to just within their limits all the time.

[@lengerer]

Haha no It’s the injectors get blocked and instead of shooting a mist they shoot a direct stream of diesel into the cylinder, over many rotations it slowly bores a hole in the piston and eventually everything goes pop.

[@ScatManAust]

Yes, I know that was the case with your engine, but all these CR engines can and do suffer bad injectors. CR Injectors are now a maintenance consumable and as such have to be serviced on a relatively regular schedule to make sure to catch a bad injector before it can do major damage. And also, to keep the engine running and conforming to emissions regulations . In saying there is no substitute for capacity still stands. Manufacturing larger capacity engines drastically eases load on major engine components while making more Hp and torque without the extreme pressures on pistons and fuel systems as in the smaller capacity engines working within an inch of its life all the time. Sure, cylinder and fuel pressures can still be in the same range on the larger engines, but these extremes are not present all the time especially towing at HI way speeds in hot weather. Will be interesting to see how the four banger L/C goes long term when everyone loads them up to the hilt and hits the hot roads. Its easy to get high power and torque out of these small engines since the advent of CR and forced ID, it's much harder to keep all that energy contained long term. @@lengerer

[@BCBtrucks64]

Who gives a shit about the policy I want to know why the motor shit it self

[@OakesyAdventures]

It's in at Mandruah Mazda they will confirm but it's injector failure

[@OakesyAdventures]

As soon as I know for sure I let you know

[@bblbuilding5011]

Should have bought a Isuzu, I have a 2002 model with 400,000kl no smoking, strong as the day built

[@OakesyAdventures]

So I have been told

[@nigelmorgan3449]

Yes I heard the Isuzu is a very good buy

[@robertaus8420]

No my cousin has Isuzu regrets. Something must be different in last year’s model he’s having endless troubles. Egr faults and doing burn offs constantly and derating just when you don’t want it to are just some of his problems. I am not sure if it’s a trend though

[@mitchell5064]

@@robertaus8420 they are genreally alot better than the ford units, mazda use them now

[@TonyTony-rd4rj]

@@robertaus8420 I know someone who izus

[@louiskudlak2241]

Good to c you’ve sorted it buddy ❤

[@kevinward4714]

Isuzu designed the new Toyota engine (hilux) but built by toyota Madza now use a Isuzu motor in the latest 4x4 ute.

[@joelawrence56]

doubt it... it's an updated 1KZ with common components...

[@AdmissionGaming]

What caused it to fail? Had very low kms considering it failed in such a catastrophic way.

[@OakesyAdventures]

It's looking towards bad injectors

[@larryhockley879]

The problem with your 5 cylinder engine could be injector failure. I have a cousin in SA with a Ford Ranger where injector number 5 failed resulting in the engine failure. He has since had 2 additional engines installed because Ford only replaced the faulty injector on the new engine, and consequently the other 4 which weren’t replaced failed. I hope this helps with your experience.

[@OakesyAdventures]

Thanks for the feed back and yes will make sure all are replaced.

[@darrylpaulhus3069]

It is an injector issue very common in those models i have replaced two engines. Also the egr cooler will shit it self and cook the engine.

[@TonyTony-rd4rj]

A good mechanic told me once "if one goes it wont be long begore the others go" so right never forgoten that and so right always replace all of them.

[@barbarahotham8533]

Audio quality is not good and difficult in parts to understand ! GH

[@OakesyAdventures]

Thank you for the feed back I will try and fix for the next update thanks again.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

Try a remote microphone like they use on the Skid factory??? Clip to your T shirt or bill of a cap... @@OakesyAdventures

[@OakesyAdventures]

@@JohnSmith-yv6eq will do thanks

[@snakeinthegrass7630]

Bad audio,had to turn off

[@Muffin_Masher]

The best advice in that situation, is exactly what you wanted to do anyway, GET IT HOME. Unless you actually KNOW a mechanic/workshop within the range, just get it HOME. It will hurt less than getting bent over by a dodgy workshop with no other options. And at all costs, do not ever let it enter an RAC workshop, absolute thieves :( The roadside assist/towing is where their value ends. I fell for the RAC workshop scam once, home was outside of my covered towing range, and so was every workshop i trusted, but they offered to tow it nearly 30k's further than my range IF it went to THEIR workshop... I should have known what I was in for :D They tried to upsell me everything, even offered me a 1500 dollar tune because it wouldn't idle... they had turned the base idle screw all the way out so it couldn't idle. I still wonder to this day how fucked they would have been if i was injured or killed driving it home from the workshop after declining their tune, it was an automatic, and stalled every time you took your foot off the pedal, all because they wanted 1500 bucks to turn the screw back to where it was... i'm sorry i mean "tune" the vehicle. The funniest part is, at that time, there was NO way for anyone other than Ford to "tune" those vehicles anyway. Modified ECU's and "piggyback" support didn't come until later. Some scummy "mechanics" will literally piss in your pocket and tell you it's raining :( all with a smile on their face.

[@johnbodnar3720]

What were the service intervals, 10000 or 15000 kilometres, what oil was used, was any oil additive put in, who serviced it, I don’t even know if you’re Bt is 3.2 or 2.2, more information please, good luck

[@OakesyAdventures]

10000

[@MrChrisp300]

He mentioned cylinder 5 was the issue. So it's. 3.2L. 2 2L only have 4 cylinders

[@ricknoble5847]

Hi thanks for your update, just curious what where the circumstances leading up to your blown motor eg was it a hot day, where you monitoring temperatures, had you been towing for long that day , your gcm weight, last service done ,did you recently fill up with fuel, I m thinking for everyone who has a 3.2 5 cylinder it’s best to nurse these motors and over service them for longer life

[@OakesyAdventures]

We had lunch 30mins before day was mild 28degrees filled up at BP in Rockingham, day before. motor performances normal.

[@OakesyAdventures]

As we were only going for 2 days water tanks empty only basics in the van and ute gcm would have been around 5.5 to 5.7T

[@davidmilledge221]

If you have full cover say its Australia wide isn't it ?

[@OakesyAdventures]

Now thats another good point must read your policy

[@davidmilledge221]

@@OakesyAdventures I will cheers 🍻

[@666dualsport]

It should be illegal to tow a tandem van with any less than a v6 or v8

[@thelonewolf666]

agreed. too many tow with vehicles like this--- they are crap at towing and unsafe

[@benni727]

​@thelonewolf666 its made to tow 3500kg. if it had a set if injectors it wouldn't have had a issue. a slow 1hz toyota should be on the road there the bits of crap flat at 75kph causing the issues.

[@Paul-45-70]

The car manufacturers should at least have some sort of EGT monitoring or fit a gauge so the driver can monitor themselves.

[@jasonbarnes5605]

Rac should've covered you for the 300km and then you just pay for the extra kms.

[@rajahhindi3921]

Are you a truck driver on the mines in waaaaaa land?

[@OakesyAdventures]

Production and ops supervisor.

[@curtisthomas469]

We have 5 diesel cars in our family 2 vw golfs 1 caddy ford ranger and a Toyota hilux only run BP unltima diesel in all over them all serviced on time,combined they have done 8 hundred thousand km not a single problem,you push there cars to the limit and you expect it to be reliable,are you using fuel additives ,was it bad fuel,and it didn’t look over loaded 😂

[@bubbleox8631]

The difference should be the difference between the limit and its present location NOT THE WHOLE TOW!

[@user-en1wr1dp1u]

Club 4x4 , get what you paid for ?

[@OakesyAdventures]

Yes to correct

[@shanequinn8356]

You are luck RAC found you. RACQ couldn't find us 20 min west of Blackbutt 4314. With our exact address location the RACQ phone girl couldn't spell D'Agular hwy. Why we are stupid enough to have a French name for a major road? Doesn't fit today's pathetic education system so kids never know what D' is, .... yet we had a minister call Yvette D'Ath ... well she didn't last. Yes phone call from side of Hwy is terrible.

[@lc79tourer26]

Buggar!!

[@peterjohnson3836]

2017 bt 50. Not good

[@1ihws]

You start by slowing down the speech on your videos, or you sound like mickey mouse on speed!

[@OakesyAdventures]

Will take on board thanks for the feed back.