Mazda CX-5 Diesel: Too little too late as Jojo said? | Full Review

[@CarQuestion]

Too little too late for the Mazda Diesel engine? Got news from Mazda: CX-5 Diesel 2020 is currently undergoing a recertification process, as required by the CARB (California Air Resources Board) every two years. Once they have received final certification for sale, they will announce the schedule for the start of production of the 2020 CX-5 Diesel.

[@benhaze1010]

Absolutely. Très bon commentaires!

[@Montana270]

Yes!!!

[@CarQuestion]

Merci Ben!

[@jmc2903]

I bought my CX5 with a diesel in 2012. Still got it and the car is still going strong.

[@memeade3914]

Good for you normally it wouldn't so do what you doing man

[@k.ozguryasa2675]

I've been using the first gen. CX5 2.2D since 2011 in Istanbul/Turkey and it is a great car. Even when I had a few problems, Mazda stood by its car and I've always had great service assistance.

[@CarQuestion]

What problem did you have ?

[@k.ozguryasa2675]

@@CarQuestion I am not an expert but what seemed to be a huge engine problem just turned out to be a new tech. fuse that regulated the smart city break system and some other systems. It took Mazda some time to figure out the problem but it got fixed. It started around 70K km. after a very aggressive driving on a long trip from İstanbul to Ankara (aprx 450km). I never had the same problem after the fix and I am at 145K km. now. Very frugal, powerful car. One thing I suggest Mazda and Bose, is to change is the priming (coating) of the front speakers that peels out after a couple of winters and distorts the sound quality. I know many owners had the same problem because of the may videos on youtube about how to fix the problem. Thank you for asking.

[@peterscrace3530]

I own a CX-5 GT Diesel in Australia no regrets great engine, in Australia we dont have the ad blue stuff so our spec has 140KW with 450NM torque, this engine is available across the whole range unlike North America. Real world economy is 4.8 litres/100 freeway driving and 7.1 litres/100 around town.

[@converdis449]

Peter Scrace me 2 our CX5 is 3 year old in April and love it. Plenty of torque loves to rev and delivers great economy . Sadly for the US Mazda have killed this engine to meet all of the emissions etc.

[@peterscrace3530]

@@converdis449 Great to hear that I''m not the only one that loves the diesel CX-5, I only paid $43K AU for mine December 2018 KF series 2 ex demo with only 2500KM on the clock, bargain for the amount of vehicle that I got, love the Soul Red Crystal colour too stunning...zoom zoom.

[@converdis449]

Peter Scrace I know a few of us . To be honest before the 2.5 petrol turbo I found the 2.5 underpowered . We traded our 8 year old CX7 diesel which was a great car on the CX5. Sadly Mazda in Australia do a terrible job in selling and promoting the CX5 diesel. All you really need to do is get a diesel on the open road every 2 week or so let it run, get nice and warm and carry out its dpf cycle and they will last for ever .👍

[@Logan.Ninefingers]

It is only available in the top four trim levels (not the base model). You really get 4.8L/100? Wow, I'll have to try for that next time I go for a freeway drive. I live in country NSW and I'm getting 6.4 combined.

[@quitonino]

From Chile...I also had a Cx-5 diesel ...with 105.000 kms ...2016....great vehicle...

[@coldarcluck5320]

I’m probably one of the few in the US to have bought the diesel model. I love it.

[@CarQuestion]

Keep us informed on how it evolves over time !

[@talonpilot]

How are you getting from MPG? It’s rated way lower than originally thought it would return due to the EPA restrictions. Are you getting 27-29? More?

[@coldarcluck5320]

Talonpilot I have been tracking it on Fuelly. I have averaged 28. Haven’t really been on a long trip yet. At some point however I intend to tune it.

[@jose746793]

@@coldarcluck5320 I'm looking for one at the moment going to trade my 2014 Mazda 3 hatch. Did you tune it? Even if you haven't, how has it been overall?

[@dvgecko89]

Hello, I was looking my at getting a 2019 to tow. How’s your diesel keeping up? Any maintenance issues?

[@ohcanadaeh]

Mazda should offer the diesel option to the the lower trim CX5 to make it more competitive and affordable.

[@CarQuestion]

That's exactly our thoughts

[@Logan.Ninefingers]

@@CarQuestion I have the mid level trim in Australia with the diesel in. We have 5 trim levels and the diesel is available in the top four. It costs A$3000 more if you don't haggle. IMO in our market you could get 15% off the drive away price if you work for it.

[@m1lkman1974]

You guys did a great job with this video (JOJO, Power Ups etc) and great Q and A. Thank you!! My opinion, being a dieselhead, is that it would have been ideal 3 years ago when diesel was cheaper than gas. Now that it's more expensive, plus more maintenance with a diesel engine, I would say it is a lost litre. I do applaud Madza for pushing the envelope and do something that few are doing with their engines and cars in general. They are getting back to their Japanese roots and it shows. Quality and fit and finish seems amazing on the current models!! Merci Bien!

[@CarQuestion]

Thanks Keith!

[@10tenman10]

Pretty good cold start. Not too rattly. Minus 26°C is minus 14°F; pretty cold.

[@CarQuestion]

it is really cold but not unusual for Québec :P

[@10tenman10]

Yeah, it's still pretty cold. When I was a kid in Montreal one January it never went above 0°F (for a month). That doesn't seem to happen any more.

[@arnelcaburds7662]

Got the 2012 diesel model...loved it.long drove NZ from south to north.

[@adrianxxxx36]

Diesel is very good engine for bussiness electric only for city application for low mileage. CX5 diesel is great option.

[@Logan.Ninefingers]

I bought one in December and love it. The car market is so bad here right now that I got it for less than the retail price of the 2.5. It seems to be heavily detuned for your market (or maybe you have the figures wrong) In Australia it has 186bhp and 330ftlbs. I'm getting 6.4 l/100km real world combined, but I have a light foot. In the real world where we use 2-3,000rpm a lot the torque of this is fantastic, and fun.

[@CarQuestion]

Why is the car market so bad ?

[@CarQuestion]

And yes numbers are différents from you guys !

[@Logan.Ninefingers]

@@CarQuestion good question. My own opinion is that people in Australia are not at all confident in our politics or financial situation. The country is going to the dogs in the fast lane (except for the super rich of course) and the last thing they want to do is spend a big chunk of change which they might need just to survive and pay the mortgage. All manufacturers are significantly down except Kia.

[@10tenman10]

The diesel is a good choice if it were the same price as the non turbo engine.

[@CarQuestion]

That's exactly our thoughts

[@talonpilot]

I wouldn’t mind a little more of a premium but its not just the engine premium your having to pay for.....its the 3 or 4 trim levels higher since you can only get it in the top trim level. If it was avail across the board (with an engine upgrade premium), I guarantee many more of them would be on the road!

[@lexithelexus7377]

mazda is really keeping disel in the market, most gas stations i go to, no longer have disel

[@Ginitouch]

Hi, good reviews, I absolutely love the diagonal test you do, it really shows the capability of a vehicle. Do you think that you could add a door and trunk open and close test in the diagonal test session? So that we could see if the car rigidity is good or not, it matters in long term, the better the rigidity, the less rattle it might have later on, and it’s safer to take off road.

[@francoisvola3611]

In Europe we had the Diesel engine since the first version, I bought the gas version, cheaper selling price, cheaper maintenance and less prone to problems related to diesel engines!

[@DomBezKredytu843]

did you know that cx-5 europa version 2,2 diesel have 175horspower and has two exhaust pipes?

[@davykawa]

Is cx-5 diesel (only available in full-optional configuration) to be compared with German (more premium and with more diesel choices) cars? Instead of the brands are reported in the description? What do you think? The declared price is better than the germans, but the quality seems to be there. What is lacking in CX-5 to be criticized while the germans are not criticized? Thanks.

[@tc6578]

In my opinion, I think they have missed the boat here with this diesel option for the following reasons: (1) The MSRP is simply set too high for the diesel option. Drop it by about $8000 (CAD) may just give it a new lease in life to survive any more than two model years. (2) The fuel efficiency is sub-par when comparing to modern day gas engines. (see below) Make it into a diesel-hybrid configuration may inject some excitement into the equation! (3) My '18 Outback has, so far, returned a calculated average fuel economy of 8.5L/100km or 27.7 MPG (US). That's day to day driving, nothing special. (4) Best tank was 946 km (588 miles) with 75% highway and 25% city driving. (5) Second best tank was 890 km (553 mi.) with 90% highway driving. Just my two-cents worth!

[@quikgt]

Wow I didn’t know this was available, good review ! However doesn’t the gas turbo have even more torque?

[@CarQuestion]

Indeed... mostly aimed for diesel lover !

[@LoquiYo]

I'm considering to move to Quebec. So I will need to buy a vehicle for that weather. AWD is a must for Quebec. Subaru is one of my alternative, after watching this Mazda Diesel, which one will be your recommendation?

[@CarQuestion]

what's your budget? any family?

[@LoquiYo]

@@CarQuestionI'm retired +Wife & 21 year daughter considering to move to Quebec. I was there 2 weeks ago and saw a good quality of life there. I will like to try a change and be there for 6/12 months to see how is life there. Here I had good experience with Subaru (3) last one is a Forester 2013 the other units we own are 2WD and I'm not considering to take these units to Quebec. I had the idea of an AWD SUV from Subaru (not CVT) or Toyota Highlander Awd but after your video of the Mazda Diesel I need to reconsider. That said, the Highlander is the more expensive one I think, similar to the Mazda CX5 Diesel. Since you live in that enviroment what you will recommend? Is Diesel with higher torque better for that cold weather for the snow? Or is irrelevant with the Highlander 3.5L?

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

@@LoquiYo where are you moving from?

[@massimomtl4522]

@@LoquiYo You don't need AWD. All you need is a good set of winter tiers. AWD will definitely help you with acceleration when there is fresh snow that isn't plowed yet, but it is not a necessity, unless you decide to live in a rural area with unplowed roads in which case, you'll need a tractor.

[@CarQuestion]

Good studded winter tires ;)

[@rojinulud1877]

Really? Skyactiv-D with sport mode?!? See 3:29 in the video.

[@CarQuestion]

I said no sports mode for the diesel. Mazda mix the cx5 turbo broll so that’s what you saw. Maybe there is one elsewhere but not our CAD.press car !

[@10tenman10]

My understanding is that diesel cars generally get better mileage than the official posted numbers

[@CarQuestion]

This one is on target.

[@TheGermanboy07]

I own this car in the US (although drive in different climate than Canada) and I would say in my experience, like other diesels, the mileage is better than official. With light/average driving habits I get about 30mpg in the city and between 37-39mpg on the highway.

[@10tenman10]

I live in Tennessee and do mostly highway driving. Am currently driving my sons Camry and routinely get over 30 MPG (US gallons), often 36 MPG if I'm light on the gas pedal.

[@lifeofmike556]

Assuming this Diesel isn't sold in the United States, what's stopping an American from calling up a Canadian Mazda dealership buying a car and having it shipped to your house?

[@briankaiser694]

im miata mike , in the US, the diesel is available and not selling well at all. A quick search of online pricing shows these selling for a $10k discount right now. For $33-34k (US) it’s a great deal since it’s a fully loaded model...even though the gas mileage isn’t fantastic compared to the other two gas models. For low to mid $40k, though, it’s way too expensive (I think)

[@CarQuestion]

@@briankaiser694 10K of rebates.... somebody is losing money!

[@benhaze1010]

It is available i the US. Car companies void warranties on new cars purchased abroad; you have to buy used after verifying if the warranty will still be honored and you may have to do some mods.

[@lifeofmike556]

@@briankaiser694 Not trying to be sexist here, but I see mostly upper middle class females driving these fancy CX-5s especially around where I live. Seems like every other house has Range Rover, Lexus and Mazda. Typically women aren't very car savvy and wouldn't want to play around with Diesel engines. As far as towing goes... It doesn't tow a whole lot either and thinking about the reliability of a Mazda Diesel gives me anxiety! I think this car is better off maybe being sold here in very small quantity maybe 1-2 per dealership. If you trade in your car and get $5000 along with some negotiating $1900 you can probably walk away with one of these for $24,000 which is Toyota RAV4 territory.

[@coldarcluck5320]

Brian Kaiser yes I paid less than 34k for my diesel.

[@robertduklus6555]

there is absolutely no reason to buy it especially from economical point of view. Considering you can get cx5 turbo gasoline for less or cx9 used one, 1 year old for the same price or less.

[@knutendreringhagen289]

Funny how different it is from our country. We dont get the petrol turbo, we dont get the cx9, and the cx5 diesel have same prize as 2.5 n/a petrol. For us the diesel is the clear choise.

[@nicoschu]

The european spec CX5 diesel has got more Power (184 hp) and Torque (445nm/328ftlbs) and is more Fuel efficient (I'm averaging around 6.5-7l/100km) It doesn't make sense, that mazda makes an less efficient and less powerfull version of an already existing engine.

[@369VIDEO]

Diesel it’s amazing for torc

[@CarQuestion]

At low rpm

[@سیدمهرانمیرابوالقاسمی]

myMather is first my love second mazda is my love.

[@iamlim5197]

Honda should produce a brand new twin turbo Diesel RDX XD

[@CarQuestion]

With VTec 🤪

[@saibea5t523]

2:18 i thought i'm hearing hardware canucks here lol

[@CarQuestion]

not sure what do you mean ?

[@garywebster6453]

Uk models return around 50 mpg.

[@GoofieNewfie]

Ok, where do I get my Nokian hat?

[@DigitalYojimbo]

I'd rather have the low compression gas turbo they have. 250hp 320lb/ft.

[@ejf0255]

Snow test a Ridgeline please !! :-)

[@CarQuestion]

Will do

[@10tenman10]

Agree. Too late.

[@wankel787b]

カナダ向けはアドブルー仕様のディーゼルなのか。。。

[@alexyoungberg5232]

*2:00** Typical Mazda rust as usual..*

[@CarQuestion]

it's ice, we get that often on winter! it stick to car paint.

[@JimmyWayne7]

my mecedes GLK fully loaded back in 2014 was same money as this and it was a great made in Germany small SUV that looked liked a samll G-Weagon , this is not worthy the same money

[@CarQuestion]

6 year ago... that’s a long time in the car business

[@josephperry832]

Bonjour de Montreal!

[@ilikepremios.amanofunofhyb4751]

Here in Kenya this cx5 diesel is among the problematic car thre is.

[@fa300ry]

Mon ami Matt, tu est Canadian

[@CarQuestion]

Oui ;)

[@fa300ry]

Car Question eu também

[@CarQuestion]

Brésilien Canadien ? ;)

[@MrJuppy243]

In sorry first time I do not like your video. I love the car.

[@louisegoffin842]

❤

[@CarQuestion]

😍

[@jaybee2344]

Mazda needs to stop investing in ICE vehicles. The EV market is on a steady growth.

[@CarQuestion]

They got one coming soon!

[@the6thgear319]

Of the 17 million cars and trucks sold in the US last year, less than 1% are EV. It is too premature and short sighted to stop investing in the ICE

[@tiburonnegroyblanco6210]

CRV the King

[@Hoktoooey]

Too l8- diesel is now a dinosaur and soon refineries will cease mass producing.... a. Duhhhh

[@CarQuestion]

you talk like a guy that own's a EV car.