In the wise words of Madiba....if the ANC does to you what the apartheid government did to you then you must do to the ANC what you did to the apartheid government...
@sentsolebatla25129 ай бұрын
But he never said the state capture enablers should be blindly followed right
@wernerkruger97099 ай бұрын
@@sentsolebatla2512 I think hes looking down on SA and thinks what I have left them with they have completly distroyed ...hope gone, trust gone, ANC gone....the blind leading the blind
@patternaid2809 ай бұрын
But the ANC has not come anywhere near to doing to anyone what Apartheid did to all of us black and white. So this doesn't apply. But I think we all have to wake up to the reality that "demoncrazy" is a system of the masters of wealth and will always be in favor of those who have the best means.
@cyntheriamasebeni20169 ай бұрын
But what I don't understand in this act 0f Zuma and the MK is that, it seems the ANC made wrong now not during his 9years. This slogan can supported by all South Africans if it was said by young and newly established leaders, not this Nkandla person who ruled for 9 years recently 😢
@mawandla42229 ай бұрын
Nice quote but Mandela never said that.
@manyananihlwatika7269 ай бұрын
President Mbeki was never perfect yet he still remains the best President of the Republic of South Africa we ever had... Period
@sibongilekhoza92519 ай бұрын
Liar
@Nomngcefe9 ай бұрын
The who had 2third majority in parliament and did nothing with it
@hloniphanindlela48009 ай бұрын
Y you say he was the best..mention the things he did..nd we I will tell you Y someome did better than him
@ohlangeni9 ай бұрын
Mbeki had the chance and the power to dismantle Apartheid Economy with the Two Thirds majority. Instead he brought neo-Liberal GEAR policy from Washington that promoted White (Apartheid) Economy, creating the world's most unequal society with wealthy White European colonists and poor Black people
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
Who closed all skilled based institutions and turn around advocating for "skilled foreigners" to come work in South Africa?
@PanAfricanist19639 ай бұрын
It breaks my heart to see the generation of patriotic leaders like Thabo Mbeki phasing away, while we can't find replacement for them.
@malusilinganiso38629 ай бұрын
It breaks mine too to see the likes of Mbeki attacking their fellow comrades for exercising their rights in this democratic society. Ufuna ukushifter blame to Zuma ngoku? Yena after saying all what he said thinks we will change like he did and now vote for the criminals? Kant emhlabeni kunjani?
@wahwah77019 ай бұрын
We have EFF and Julius Malema to replace this incompetent old man called Thabo Mbeki.
@Lunga39 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 joke of the year
@Sakhephi9 ай бұрын
This "patriotic" leader denied poor members of my family hiv/aids drugs. They died together with 330 000 others. He is responsible for their deaths
@ntandoyenkosindlovu28359 ай бұрын
Thabo Mbheki is not innocent Do you know how he manipulated state resources for personal gain this guy own mines in DRC & SANDF soldiers are there to protect his mines while DRC people are suffering His wife Zanele is a shareholder to more than 100 listed companies kwi JSE Zanele mbheki was involved in Rand manipulation scandal but no one punished her for that So this madala isn't innocent at all
@general---777a9 ай бұрын
Mbeki is too reasonable for the militant revolutionaries. Their ego is too big to put South Africa first.
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
How is Mbeki putting South Africans First when he tells you straight up that you are not going to get the land? Your mines, land and reserve bank will be in the hands of foreigners...are you even listening? Or Zuma's scapegoating is blurring your reasoning
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
MK will not do better than ACDP & the FF+! 😂NOW TAKING ALL DELUSIONAL BETS
@DawudAbdu-Basir9 ай бұрын
Zuma saved millions of lives by rolling out arv treatment while Mbeki was speaking big English debating whether hiv causes aids….he never campaigned for anc during Zuma presidency and nobody said anything about that. He recently said he won’t campaign for anc because it’s full of thieves. I sense that he never recovered from Polokwane loss, he expelled Zuma from government as deputy president and Zuma beat him and became anc president the rest is history. After all most members of anc have dual membership of sacp and anc, at some point sacp wanted to go independently from anc. Infact some even had triple membership anc, sacp and mk. They just dislike Zuma for what reason? They know! I don’t get what the fuss is about!
@afrolifemedia9 ай бұрын
Poverty stricken South Africa?
@ThulaniNdzuzo-ei5qb9 ай бұрын
@@BronxWavyI'm just laughing the comments
@Yasuke33339 ай бұрын
1. When Madiba was in charge, President Mbeki was pulling the strings from behind. - During his presidency, South Africa's economy was growing. - The debt-to-GDP ratio was less than 50%. - Some of us, fortunate enough, started thriving businesses in the townships. - The Safety and Security Cluster was effectively carrying out its duties. - The mood in the country and in Africa was positive, contributing to nation-building. - South Africa was respected and taken seriously on the world stage. - We were looking forward to voting for the ANC, a united movement. Even though I don't trust Ramaphosa for lying about dealing with corruption and lawlessness and for doing nothing when our businesses were looted and burnt by criminals, when Mbeki says I must vote for the ANC, maybe it's time to listen.
@zicodasilva14969 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@muzib4579 ай бұрын
He is now mixes his word's, he's said how can someone vote for imigodoyi ( dog's) who are leading the Anc,we will wait for the 29 May to make our choice
@veronicakarstel91269 ай бұрын
And then that red jelly tot Julius the commie campaigned to get a successful president out and put that scum Zuptha in.
@zwelihleeugene14029 ай бұрын
Never
@bongwekhuzwayo25699 ай бұрын
We don't eat GDP
@MfanafuthiMkhize-pe1mf9 ай бұрын
One of the best intellectuals that our movement has ever produced…
@LonwaboMiggels2219 ай бұрын
Produce what the man behind COPE him And TiTo Mboweni and Manual mxm wena Mkhize
@ThembaCindi-yy7yo9 ай бұрын
Just to fulfill a hullabaloo say.No action from him.intellectual just for nothing..From his presidency we benefited nothing.
@ernestsmith47529 ай бұрын
He remains the best president we've had .jz was a disaster
@fanamlawuli67619 ай бұрын
What did he do with our two thirds majority we gave him?
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
@@LonwaboMiggels221 explain the relevance to intellectuals... or you just one of those delinquents who can't wait to comment?
@MichelaMakgakga9 ай бұрын
Don't worry Mr Mbeki we on the ground we will vote for ANC I support you statement today thanks Mr Mbeki
@mzoxolomdiza26499 ай бұрын
No person in their right mind will want to associate themselves with this party
@MguduSebe9 ай бұрын
you are quite right brother, they are even threatening to destabilize the elections, its just insane
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods82029 ай бұрын
Most recent polls have shown this party grow to the third largest in the country, ahead of EFF. Absolutely shocking how many people support Zuma after everything he did to this country
@RG-jr8ym9 ай бұрын
well jacob did say he doesn't like clever blacks...
@akho23049 ай бұрын
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 The electorate gets to be given a choice to paraphrase Maggie the Iron Lady. After the 30 years of 'democrazy' we have had, we really ought to have a deep look at the choice, we can't keep blaming the voters as it will start bothering on insanity
@akho23049 ай бұрын
@@RG-jr8ym If you choose, you can say that for another 30 years but if you know what Magret Thatcher said of British politics, then you would know that it is time we look the other way, otherwise we ourselves are not 'clever black' if we keep blaming the voter
@ManteMumty9 ай бұрын
It seems In Zulu minds, the only perfect leader in S.A must Zulu according to all this comments. Guys great leaders are judged by their leadership characters not race and tripes 😂😂😂
@ThaboBanger9 ай бұрын
U need to start thinking
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
They will only respond with insults
@mabhubesintombela76009 ай бұрын
sizokushaya wena, uyadelela lomuntu
@XPR20199 ай бұрын
That's because all of them are dump, the only thing they know is "nkabi yam"😂
@delanikhumalo22219 ай бұрын
Is ànything mentioned Zulu maybe i missed? Or your mentality is kind of tribalist mind. Thats what happens if you're tribalist, if someone talk to you it sounds tribalist.
@Nomngcefe9 ай бұрын
It's obvious why ANC declined in 2009, Thabo Mbheki and his friends formed COPE, taking lot anc members. Mbheki had 2third majority in parliament,, but as black person I can't point out anything he did.
@Alexander-fw7st9 ай бұрын
He stepped down when requested. He did not try to hang on to power. Like Jan Smuts, he is at intellectual. They never do well in government. Sad. Viva South Africa. Love to all.
@monwabisitembani63199 ай бұрын
If you can answer the question of what was the South Africa's financial rand and South Africa's commercial rand and what became of them then may be you can look again at your assertion. If not then I don't know what to say.
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
@monwabisitembani6319 what's your point exactly, trying to sound like a political scientist
@monwabisitembani63199 ай бұрын
No point at all.@@BronxWavy
@siyabongajacobdlamini17649 ай бұрын
@@Alexander-fw7stno he was recalled and he never accepted democracy,he thought he was bigger than the party.
@keystv19619 ай бұрын
Mbeki did not do much for black people.... H e just played it safe and wrote Poems...
@mr53320879 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@natovaneeden17579 ай бұрын
😂 mxm
@leilahakulinen9 ай бұрын
Thabo Mbeki & Manto Tshabalala-Msimang's preferred herbal remedy products (beetroot, garlic, and lemon juice) killed an unnecessary number of HIV/AIDS patients 😢, although ARV drugs 💊 were readily available.
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods82029 ай бұрын
Stats say otherwise. SA’s most successful post apartheid economic growth happened during Mbeki’s presidency
@TheSerenityRAIN9 ай бұрын
He presided over RSA's highest growth rate and lowest unemployment to date.
@Mlambo94329 ай бұрын
So now we are suppose to vote for a criminal. Mbeki needs to stop talking.
@sentsolebatla25129 ай бұрын
We are a country with hard fought freedom, where nobody shouldn't be forced to vote for whoever they want to. You have a right to not vote for them but some people same rights you enjoy to vote for them
@nthabisengkwayiba45739 ай бұрын
Who is the criminal? JZ / CR
@sentsolebatla25129 ай бұрын
@@nthabisengkwayiba4573 we all who have criminal record between the two And we all know who stole money from public purse and who was the victim of theft at his home ,we all know who's still have unfinished court cases. Lastly Ramaphosa was never accused of rape that's all can say
@siyabongasibanyoni68309 ай бұрын
Mbeki is the greatest South African president of the 21 century During his presidency South Africa was booming
@sbombonambi34939 ай бұрын
Very confused this one
@zenzelexulu29679 ай бұрын
The problem with educated people is that they dont understand how Zuma beat them with his grade 2 now he is trying to stay safe but he is not
@ignatiouschikurahove72399 ай бұрын
Most SA voters are not educated and uneducated people must not vote at all. That is why we have challenges today
@sollynkadimeng30919 ай бұрын
I just wish for a second rsa citizens should feel ashamed of themselves and make a different for the future of our children...Africa will never change the more things changes the more they stay the same....
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
When Zuma pjsses on his fans, they think its raining
@NomvulaNxumalo-s3e9 ай бұрын
He lied and you all believed him and south Africans like to favour thugs and speak in forked tongues
@siyabongajacobdlamini17649 ай бұрын
Who is educated in view or which part is lead by educated people.@@ignatiouschikurahove7239
@thenjiwenxumalo88289 ай бұрын
Thabo Mbheki you not truth to yourself as well, you want to be seen honest man while not
@MothusiDitsong9 ай бұрын
Rubbish u MK and criminal zuma supporters
@PhumeleleSibeko-lu4cz9 ай бұрын
ARE you honest to yourself? Wena!!🤔🤔you zupta supporters we know that we have a constitution "Roman Dutch Law" in our country. Which is giving you that privilege to think and talk the nonsense you have been thinking and talking. If it was not for it you would not be allowed.
@dothadance19 ай бұрын
Are u from KZN? If you are then nothing new there, Mbeki and Mandela might as well be the devil himself to you. We know that.
@sgqumfemfevabaza93529 ай бұрын
A question to all MK members, your president says he still remains a member of the ANC, are you also ANC members? if not why?
@josiahmanganyi69179 ай бұрын
You know that Zuma is a polygamist and he sees nothing wrong with it!His votes will be shared between ANC and MK!National MK and Provincial ANC! Most voters has shared their votes between parties especially in local government elections why because all the parties cannot be trusted!
@MKL_D9 ай бұрын
You are waiting your time. They can't read. Send a voice note.
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
They don't know. They just do what Zuma does
@muzikayiseNgubane-gf3rt9 ай бұрын
Fuseg rubbish
@nduduzosithole15849 ай бұрын
We are confusing the enemy 😂
@AmoMoëti9 ай бұрын
If Zuma defines himself outside ANC then why ANC can't let him go??? For political party that is over 100 years old but still don't know how to deal with such matters😢
@sollynkadimeng30919 ай бұрын
They can't even deal with themselves...black people for the last 30 something years they won't change...that is why we will stay poorer even for the next 3 generation to come...
@Dotata20099 ай бұрын
@DumaM-ir7rkhe is contradicting himself
@PhumeleleSibeko-lu4cz9 ай бұрын
Who is holding zupta back in this current ANC called the Anc of Ramaphosa?? And i assume your wildest answer will be the Anc. And one will let you to think that the Anc of Ramaphosa is holding back zupta. IT IS A CLEAR PROOF THAT YOU SUPPORTERS OF ZUPTA ARE SICK PSYCHOLOGICALY. YOU SOME PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATION, BEFORE SOMEONE CAN TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. YOU MASTER WITH HIM, IS UNDERSTANDABLE. AFTER ALL HE IS NOT 28 YEARS, HE IS 82YEARS OLD. PEOPLE AT HIS SAME AGE THEY HAVE RETIRED AND THEY ARE ENJOYING THEIR PENSION WITH THEIR GRANDCHILDREN. AND AGAIN IS CALL FOR CONCERN TO THOSE SO CALLED ZUPTA SUPPORTERS, WHY CAN'T THEY SEE THAT ZUPTA IS OLD. AND HE MUST RETIRE FROM POLITICS. IT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE "OPPORTUNISTS" THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NO GURTS TO TELL HIM TO RETIRE FROM POLITICS. SO ZUPTA ANC IS GOING TO DEAL HIM AFTER THE ELECTIONS. AND HE MUST WISH AND PRAY FOR, IS THAT THE DOESN'T RETAIN POWER. WHICH HIGHLY UNLIKELY. SO BE PREPARED FOR A WAR AS YOU ZUPTA SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN THREATING US ABOUT. AND FOR INFORMATION ZUPTA IS FREE TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTS, AND YOU SEE THAT HE IS FREE TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. IF YOU CAN NOT SEE THAT. THEN IT PROOF THE THAT YOU ARE SICK AND VERY SICK. AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN HELP YOU. FOR US WE JUST HAVE TO WATCH YOU DYING A SLOW DEATH OR WE SWITCH OFF THE LIFE SUPPORT MACHINE. BUT WE WILL NOT DO NEITHER ONE OF THE TWO MENTIONED ABOVE. HORNERS ARE ON YOU. THE CHOICE IS YOURS, WHICH ONE YOU WILL PREFER BETWEEN THE TWO. VIVA ANC VIVA....VIVA 🖤💚💛✊✊
@afrolifemedia9 ай бұрын
Wow, foolish old man
@sakhumzisk-ihlubimazimela46359 ай бұрын
He's been let go but he's the one insisting that he's the member of the ANC and he'll always be.
@thomasbisschoff71369 ай бұрын
Yes, Senegal and Haiti should be our focus, not Israel. Both these countries have African people that are in need! Charity begins at home!
@malusilinganiso38629 ай бұрын
He wrote a long letter to release someone whom he knew nothing about a left his comrade be jailed without defending himself in court. Which resulted in more than 200 innocent people be massacred in Phoenix. Mxm
@malusilinganiso38629 ай бұрын
Sometimes izinto ngathi nizijonga niqhunyiwe nina bantw abamnyama
@malusilinganiso38629 ай бұрын
We know what FNB did in Zuma's term and we know that Mrs Mbeki is the shareholder .
@malusilinganiso38629 ай бұрын
So you're saying Palestinians supported ANC during apartheid can be massacred and that to you is ok?
@LonwaboMiggels2219 ай бұрын
SABC can give anyone who hate Zuma platform it will not change that people love Zuma
@thuladumakude25119 ай бұрын
SABC!?
@LonwaboMiggels2219 ай бұрын
Yes Thula
@busikhoza79039 ай бұрын
Meaning it's a futile exercise to try to stop Zuma.
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
@@busikhoza7903 Can Zuma legally be president for a 3rd term? It seems the CONSTITUTION stops Zuma
@busikhoza79039 ай бұрын
@@BronxWavy that's the equation???
@mthokozisimgabi10059 ай бұрын
Thabo Mbeki is a big hypocrite, he said he won't campaign for imigodoyi but now, the words coming out of his mouth are astonishing, I'm totally flabbergasted. He also thinks too much of himself, if there is anything he wanted to know about MK, he should've contacted Msholozi from the beginning for accurate information. But he has acted like all other deceptive hypocrites, already commenting negatively without hearing the news from his comrade or former comrade. No wise and fully mature man act like that. Thabo is overrated, he's only an average intelligent gentlemen but doesn't possess wisdom . He is too old and too tired, he's no longer relevant in South African political space.
@jabusikhakhane14657 ай бұрын
Well said
@malusimavundla39799 ай бұрын
If there is something former president Thabo Mbeki should do is to take South Africans seriously and tell us what happened to President Nelson Mandela and Chris Hani then l can take him serious otherwise he has no back bone to me and remain an agent just like his president Ramaposa
@paullamola23178 ай бұрын
You want to dwell in the past and it’s not going to take South Africa forward. That is not a solution. Focus
@srininaidoo9 ай бұрын
It's hypocritical to castigate the leadership of the ANC but you campaign for them. Obligation my foot.
@sentsolebatla25129 ай бұрын
When we still have apartheid beneficiaries privileges who never apologized or saw nothing with it. Or what it did to blacks, and nd they still want to rule over the same people who were disadvantaged and brutalized, but because they don't have scars and bruises of the past. They now say, in their party policies they don't see color but treat everyone equally regardless of the different backgrounds. And if they get in power, they would scrap every policy that's been set to redress injustices of the past For me ,it's not hard nor difficult to understand why former president Thabo Mbeki is doing that. Because we ( blacks ) can still notice our scars and we felt the same pain, it's easy for us to understand his stance. My guess would be, you never went through what we've been through.That's why you don't understand his stance
@sosothefcknbarber30599 ай бұрын
Who cares about your foot
@siyabongakunene50529 ай бұрын
That's called being conscientious and sober minded. Critical thinking is an important part of leadership and a healthy organization. Once you create echo chambers, problems ensue.
@brandoncliffswarts51008 ай бұрын
@srininaidoo, he's not campaigning for the leader/ship of the ANC but for the ANC as a party. It is possible for one can support a party without necessarily supporting the conduct of certain people in the party.
@sakhumzisosibososibosakhum13378 ай бұрын
ANC is the idea, not the members 😅. "We might die, but Rome will live forever,"
@BrotherM19786 ай бұрын
Mbeki is on point about DA's letter to the states 👏 👌
@krisndove67499 ай бұрын
Stupid Mbeki. He said he won't campaign for Thieves. He must focus on ANC
@josiahmanganyi69179 ай бұрын
He was talking about those who formed MK Party!They are the real thieves and looters!Now Mbheki can campaign freely and let ANC gets 60%votes!
@ZamaniGecwa9 ай бұрын
He is going to campaign, Jacob Zuma project thieves agone.
@sentsolebatla25129 ай бұрын
That's his rights to campaign for it or not, nothing to do with anyone
@blessingngcobo72749 ай бұрын
I remember that
@isintu10449 ай бұрын
@@sentsolebatla2512but not JZ?
@Itssophie2779 ай бұрын
My brother died during his tenure, refusing to rollout arvs
@Benjamin-oh3mn9 ай бұрын
Your brother was supposed to wear condom🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Pops_cxxl9 ай бұрын
Your brother should’ve stopped smashing raw
@zBonx9 ай бұрын
People died during Covid ..who do you blame? Please
@thenjiwendebele69388 ай бұрын
We buried more than 6 family members in 2 yrs coz of hiv/aids- he disapproved arvs,💔
@nhlanhlamanatha87997 ай бұрын
Some times we fail to tel our loves ones to use protection wen engaging oneself to sexual activities wen infected we. blame others as if Bheki was supposed to teach and follow them to check tht are they using condom in the bedroom ,stop blaming Bheki your brother failed to use condom,and codomd were free and still free,during COVID people were failing or rather rufusing to wear musk ,are I still going to blame Ramaphosa ,shame on u and each one of us should be responsible to his or her health stop blaming Bheki
@NathanZar9 ай бұрын
Thabo Mbeki was an ANC member when he co-founded and voted for COPE.
@whitesbujwa93869 ай бұрын
If that is true then..... There's a problem here by what he said
@oralminyi98269 ай бұрын
And this is not true
@destinymik98206 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@destinymik98206 ай бұрын
Mbeki is a co founder of Cope but lacked the confidence to campaign Leave Zuma to come to the open and campaign freely😂😂😂😂
@katoleeric44549 ай бұрын
So mbeki say is not going to campaign for anc now what 😢😢
@WinkieMabija9 ай бұрын
Some of us ANC is in our blood not the individual pls don't insults us🙏
@samkelisiwecarolmlambo82319 ай бұрын
He was undermining MK....ha ha ha ha shame and we are waiting for 29 May will take ANC out..😂😂whether they like it or not🙅♀️
@sabelozuma92119 ай бұрын
He is procting his wive we know.... So we don't need to waste time for this.....
@ntombizethumbatha1959 ай бұрын
@@WinkieMabija KANJANI? NAFELWA THRU YONA. Im sorry for that but we are suffering its no longer serving us.
@WinkieMabija9 ай бұрын
@@ntombizethumbatha195 u quite ryt we suffer under Zuma2 🤭
@johannesmweli24839 ай бұрын
He had said he was not going to campaign for an ANC that is led by a criminal but he has since changed his tune. Flip flopper
@gambu48109 ай бұрын
The criminals and criminally charged people are no longer leaders of the ANC. Didn't you hear about the new election slate of the ANC? Mbeki understands that the current leaders are not criminals.
@RastaAfricanGentleman9 ай бұрын
Money broe
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
@@gambu4810 go comment in Zimbabwe. This is family affairs.
@Qotha9 ай бұрын
@@gambu4810 Phala Phala criminals are leading the ANC
@jaconwood9 ай бұрын
@@gambu4810 🤣🤣🤣
@qalas73279 ай бұрын
😂 Thabo Mbheki trying to be relevant !! His Cope failed he must not talk of MK. Let him campaign for a dead useless ANC and keep Zumas name out of his mouth.
@mthokozisimgabi10059 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@mtetelelimrwetyana20029 ай бұрын
Mbeki will never recover for not finishing his term and he wasted his two thirds majority he had. He must eat presidential sassa
@SiboneloThwala-uc1ro8 ай бұрын
😂😂
@CMNMEDIA18 ай бұрын
Zuma is still bitter about Nasrec and being thrown into prison by Chief Justice Zondo...
@Lunga38 ай бұрын
@@CMNMEDIA1a joke 😅 how about you Xhosas and Mbeki being bitter after defeated in Polokwane and start mobilizing your colleagues in any states organs to assist you pushig revenge agenda🚮 telling us of cangaroo set-ups commission🚮
@mphelorodney60579 ай бұрын
Zuma destroyed the ANC, it will take time for ANC to renew itself
@krisndove67499 ай бұрын
He's claiming to be perfect
@zolamakunga62929 ай бұрын
100% behind President Thabo Mbeki and ANC viva MAYIHLOME IHLASELE MAYIHLOME
@malusingongoma28309 ай бұрын
Why doesn't Sophie ask Mbeki about formation of COPE. These journalists are not interested in revealing truths.
@ndamanekandamanei19658 ай бұрын
Malema's gibberish sounds palatable to your ear.
@RosaGawanas-i9n7 ай бұрын
Mbeki was member of ANC yet campaigned co founded COPE! This man is a hypocrite!!!
@thandwasibisi49899 ай бұрын
Mbheki is no1 umgodoyi
@KoketsoR79 ай бұрын
Till this day President Mbeki never liked the fact that he was voted out of power by President Zuma. It happens its life. But we must respect both men.
@nhlanhlamanatha87999 ай бұрын
Mbeki was never corrupt to dis day
@zumkwana1017 ай бұрын
Hello, where do you live? no one in the ANC id free of corruption.
@Itssophie2779 ай бұрын
My brother died his tenure, refusing to rollout arv.
@ncebazakhengidi80309 ай бұрын
Mina it was my mom Bro
@nduduzosithole15849 ай бұрын
And Zuma rolled out ARV's, so do the right thing people
@siyathembasiazmatshaya70749 ай бұрын
Were they injured in a war?
@Lunga39 ай бұрын
Stubborn Mbeki never apologized for killing our relatives through refusing to release ARVs, I wonder why does he never arrested for crimes in humanity
@siyathembasiazmatshaya70749 ай бұрын
@@Lunga3 Mbeki never poisoned the water or the oxygen,he never infected your relatives with H.I.V Even the developed countries were still sceptical about ARVs,who we are as South Africa to be sure that these things were going to work,even today ARVs are issued for free but our hospitals 85 % of patients that are lying in these beds are ARV and PTB defaulters. Ppl today dnt want to go to clinics and take their medications,today condoms are for free ppl dnt want to condomise but still want multiple sex partners.
@cliffordgrobler9 ай бұрын
You say Zuma is not honest, is ANC
@chiefer13259 ай бұрын
Do you remember how Zuma says he took a shower after...to wash off ....? Do you also remember when Zuma said he built Nkandla with his own money ? Do you remember ? Do you remember when he said he wants his day in court and when the day arrives he tried to avoid the day in court? Do you remember Guptas? I think Zuma might be honest
@Simi9629 ай бұрын
Honest questions/reminders for a thinker my friend. Unfortunately, for some, hearts and not minds are at work. Zuma said ANC will rule until Jesus Christ returns. I am laughing hard. He’s with MK as we speak.
@ntombizethumbatha1959 ай бұрын
@@chiefer1325 we remember but we have NO CHOICE. Malema still needs to grow. The ANC failed we must give MK benefit of the doubt then if nayo ngasiphethe kahle sikhipha.
@SbonisoSphesihle9 ай бұрын
Is Former President Mbeki ever campaign for ANC while Zuma was President if not he has hatred against the Man
@ThulaniNdzuzo-ei5qb9 ай бұрын
I'm a Member of the ANC i will die as Member but i won't vote for them 😅😅
@fusilibete44232 ай бұрын
Mbeki is without doubt, the best President SA has ever seen. His intellectual abilities are beyond reach. Give him his flowers while he can still smell them
@ChumanaSusi9 ай бұрын
Who in his right mind can really trust Zuma in S.Africa unless they want to destroy our country under Zuma
@rosemashiane58988 ай бұрын
He cannot be trusted, a lot happened under his leadership.
@AnthonyLouther8 ай бұрын
Angela Jeffery write a disturbing book title."Anc Plan To Destroy SA"they succeeded well in doing just that.Only two people,Jacob Zuma and his folliw on Cyril Ramaphosa Phala Phala Ramadollar.🫢😯🤦♂️
@CyrilMphanga9 ай бұрын
The more Thabo Mbeki talks the more he soils his legacy. I used to like him a lot, but the more I learnt about the ANC and heard him provide cover for them is the more my respect for him dissipated.
@ndamanekandamanei19658 ай бұрын
Surely u wouldn't like to retain imbeciles in your support group. Would you?
@ndamanekandamanei19658 ай бұрын
It's doubtful that this global icon would enjoy your respect. Keep it.
@CyrilMphanga8 ай бұрын
@@ndamanekandamanei1965 and yet here you are supposing that your thoughts are valuable enough to share here.🤦😂😂
@ndamanekandamanei19658 ай бұрын
@@CyrilMphanga sometimes these mirrors can be deceiving... don't u think?
@hlumelodiniso8 ай бұрын
He has condemned state capture, & distanced himself from Mr. Zuma's tainted presidency. His was'nt a perfect presidency too, it had obvious obstacles, & HIV-AIDS matter has left an indellible mark on his legacy. However, his leadership built a solid foundation for South Africa, one that required Mr. Zuma to proceed with the work. He did not. Sadly, Mr. Zuma's failures have become a lense through which we judge ANC's perfomance since 1994, rather than 2009 when he took over-a framework i find unjust & flawed, for, despite many failures under ANC, there has been great achievements under their governance... Especially when Thabo Mbeki was both the deputy president & the president of South Africa.
@seanmyers83809 ай бұрын
I think we should also remember how Thabo Mbeki killed many South Africans by denying the fact that HIV leads to Aids and that people should be provided with medication to supress this virus. We have not forgoten that tgis is the very same Thabo Mbeki who assaulted Winnie Madikizela Mandela in full public view.
@khayaliwa69449 ай бұрын
If Biden can Lead Mr Mbeki can too bring Mbeki back
@nkanyisonkosi53929 ай бұрын
Reporting only the negatives about MK will have zero influence .
@ADAMGRINNELL-d9i9 ай бұрын
Mr President Mbeki you failed to talk about the Genocide that is happening in DR Congo instigated by Paul Kagane the same folk that is inviting you to a controversial genocide celebration. the genocide that happened in Rwanda it lack of truth and honestly.
@ernestsmith47529 ай бұрын
Mk will go the same way as all others who broke away from anc eg.pac.udm.cope .mk will become irrelevant
@godwinbaloyi53509 ай бұрын
They were saying that with eff
@samkelisiwecarolmlambo82319 ай бұрын
In your dreams
@alexmu35429 ай бұрын
Thabo Mbeki is defending the Oppenheimer's interest in South Africa politics
@ShabanguSiyabonga9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 this guy mbheki , 2/3 majority did nothing
@thulanisangweni18899 ай бұрын
But you said you won't compain for thieves.
@Dubandlela19 ай бұрын
Old, forgetting and not knowing what he stands for
@siphosakhemajola91369 ай бұрын
He didn't campaign for Anc under Zuma actually he refused now he says he's obliged to compaign 😂
@zumkwana1017 ай бұрын
Hypocrite!!
@siphosakhemajola91367 ай бұрын
@user-ug6pf7lg1w this ANC he's campaigning for is not corrupt?
@johantheunissen83679 ай бұрын
😂😂 The ANC is destroying itself. Job done
@1986aurora9 ай бұрын
Themselves and south africa
@Tendibar1998Tendifree9 ай бұрын
ANC IS WINNING LANDSLIDE KANT EN KLAAR🖤💛💚✊
@Simi9629 ай бұрын
Dream on, and don’t wake up. 😂😂😂😂
@TheJonno6969 ай бұрын
KANTS. KLAAR🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MirriamSofe-yj9pq9 ай бұрын
Landslide victory nationally But provincially,a HUGE 🗻 to climb😢😢😢😢
@lebogangroofmasters46318 ай бұрын
President Mbeki, please come back as President - The country needs you.
@zumkwana1017 ай бұрын
your country, not SA
@elizeleroux63889 ай бұрын
Why was Mheki brother the wise man not our president?
@patternaid2809 ай бұрын
The issues relating to the ANC and Jacob Zuma have in my understanding led to the current situation of confusion as to being a member of a party but campaigning against it. The correct position was that he(Zuma) should have had the decency to step aside before he was even called to, while the deputy pres if the ANC. But the party split into many factions and will die as a result. Leadership must put the needs of the people first but not in the case of Zuma. As for a party that will change the political landscape to the point of delivery of services to the people regardless where the reside, no party can ever achieve that. The DA is not capable, all we have to do is look at the Western Cape
@BornwellMoyo-v8s9 ай бұрын
MK for life ❤
@LeonardNgobeni-dr7vi8 ай бұрын
Former president is correct what kind of south Africa we want
Mbeki did not want to vote for a criminal but suddenly is voting for criminals is money and positions
@CaptainGeneral119 ай бұрын
I must be missing something but how are people sticking up for Zuma when he was president for 10 years and didn't do what he says the Mk will do. he had 10 years to do what he says
@msidwana9 ай бұрын
yes You're definitely missing something, i mean a lot.
@CaptainGeneral119 ай бұрын
@SidoMadela it's ok to say 'l like zuma, wrong or right. I'm with him' the guy is very charismatic, funny. Entertains and sings very well. But let's not deceive ourselves, his leadership is a direct reason for the downfall of the country and the ANC
@malusilinganiso38629 ай бұрын
2/3 majority sdomu ndini. That gives you enough mp to change umthetho sisekelo stunxa ndini.
In the captured ANC majority view prevail and therefore how are you sure he was not out numbered because what he is talking about he has said those things in his speeches back then but not supported behind scenes, even when he announced free education he was widely insulated by the very same ANC leaders who have today reversed it
@ChumanaSusi9 ай бұрын
Zuma is not a character not worth an iota of being a president of S.Africa going by the dirty dealings he was involved in during his presidency
@Marysmmiiith7 ай бұрын
Zuma the Scooby-Doo
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
We are still going to vote MK. Go dance in the rain
@josiahmanganyi69179 ай бұрын
Don't say we!Say you will vote for MK!I will never vote for a stubborn president including the EFF president!I rather vote IFP as a shangaan!It is a party that gives me hope now especially reading their manifesto about the death penalty and dealing with illegal foreigners and borders!
@zicodasilva14969 ай бұрын
hamba juba lami bayokuchutha phambili
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
@@josiahmanganyi6917 im saying WE myself together with those likes and the rest of approximately 10 million MK membership... How about that? You should not respond on my comment if my comment doesn't concern you. Finish!
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
@@josiahmanganyi6917 go and vote for IFP it's not my business and I didn't ask you. Uyaphapha nje. IFP has sold out long time ago. You guys allow hate to rule. IFP's handlers is Oppenheimer tell me what black people get from those people? Do you even know how was IFP formed? Do you how many black people were murdered by IFP? Do you want me to go on and on???
@mbhekisenimakhoba69589 ай бұрын
After Thabo Mbeki and OR Tambo, there will never be any astitute Anc leader.
@notre20249 ай бұрын
It seems you're referring to someone who uses sophisticated language without effectively addressing the south African's issues. This individual failed to solve the problems facing South Africans despite his verbose language, resulting in people perishing before him. Instead of offering a solution, he relied on convoluted language to justify his ineffective stance on AIDS
@busikhoza79039 ай бұрын
Even if you say that, you still know that Zuma was the best of all of you combined together .
@bhamuzarodrigues59839 ай бұрын
you are a clown🤡
@lizzyndlovu58439 ай бұрын
are you serious busi?
@Qotha9 ай бұрын
Yes he was the best especially for native South Africans
@Kissmadolo9 ай бұрын
@@Qotha how come ? because during his reign there was rampant corruption , himself with the Guptas who as of this day they don't want to come back and defend themselves, remember their aircraft landed in an airport reserved for presidents only, during Zuma's reign. Don't talk about the economy because it was just downward spiral, no growth.
@Qotha9 ай бұрын
@@Kissmadolo Rampant corruption according to who, propagandists? who in his sober mind would want to come back to be prosecuted by a captured justice system that saw nothing wrong on Phala Phala?
@sphepheloshamase57369 ай бұрын
I love MK and I will bote for it.however I don't this there is anything that was said by Mbheki about Zuma and MK.he spoke like a mature man.
@ndamanekandamanei19658 ай бұрын
It does seem u let everything fly over the head.
@Itssophie2779 ай бұрын
Leave Zuma alone, concentrate on your cope.
@aviwebelani16869 ай бұрын
weeeeh
@nonhlebixa29286 ай бұрын
Mbeki is full of wisdom, i wish they truly gave him a full chance not rushing to destrone too early
@ericmurudzwa19209 ай бұрын
Zuma wants to be buried by ANC that's why he keeps one foot inside and the other one scouting for uneducated ones for lost support. RIP MK party.
@pieterswarts28308 ай бұрын
Is there anyone that can give us an idea who chose the IEC is it the Anc or do they consist of representatives of all the parties in SA in order 2b transparent fair and without corruption
@thembamthunzi13419 ай бұрын
If DA doesn't like the way we handle the elections in Africa they must go n campaign in white man's land not here this is Africa
@lehlohonolonzama939 ай бұрын
🤞🏿
@gtxchufxvj8 ай бұрын
You missed the point as usual 😂
@KwaneleTyatya-ws6pd8 ай бұрын
I have great respect for this great intellectual and giant of Africa! He is aging now his ideas are great. A man of integrity.
@mphothulo79299 ай бұрын
Mbeki speaks for others when they are in jail but never said anything about Zuma in jail,is it a long time hatred
@solomonngubeni36679 ай бұрын
Zuma is now giving most of us the reasons to vote for ANC. We have bn waiting for ANC to fire Zuma
@makhosinimahlangu35989 ай бұрын
He is mad he wants ubaba to lower himself to him
@TommyEstrice9 ай бұрын
Since Thabo Mbeki is so brilliant can you please explain to South Africans why is there load shedding on weekends because on the weekend 30 percent of business is closed schools, courts, Machanic and many more so just bare in mind here on the ground we are also observent
@RobertSithole-z4y9 ай бұрын
Otata umbeki siyKukhumbula 🎉🎉❤❤❤
@mafungwase80729 ай бұрын
Hayi! Ungasibali thina tuu. Awukahle bo!!
@samkelisiwecarolmlambo82319 ай бұрын
Umkhumbula wedwa🖐🏼
@zumkwana1017 ай бұрын
speak for yourself, please
@AgnesMlaba9 ай бұрын
The idea that a party should choose it's leader is just criminal, until then we will still suffer in the hands of those we donate our votes to, regardless of who they are.
@nhlanhlagumede3769 ай бұрын
a man without a child will never ever lead people. What does he know about human nature
@ThulaniAaronMbele9 ай бұрын
And the rapist can lead?
@Qotha9 ай бұрын
@@ThulaniAaronMbele an accused that was declared innocent by a court of law has a right to lead
@sifisophakathi28039 ай бұрын
Did his leadership powers die when his son died? How does it work exactly?
@louismzobe30739 ай бұрын
@nhlanhlagumede Cha Qwabe akukhulunywa kanjalo
@luthovellem8659 ай бұрын
I have no doubt you are Zulu based solely on this statement.😂😂😂
@lawrencemanchild62709 ай бұрын
Why didn't you ask him why he changed his mind about campaigning for the ANC. You could have also asked him about the rumors of him forming COPE.
@niphodladla43859 ай бұрын
Retire Old man, you're tired
@maquphazulu57469 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@urbansiblings15659 ай бұрын
The best president, the ANC and SA ever had.
@pinkieluthuli51259 ай бұрын
Do you mean Mbeki was the best get your fact straight Mandela betrayed Hani with Mbeki
@nombusoxaba82259 ай бұрын
What happened to your COPE , Mr Mbheki?😂😂😂😂😂
@Tamsanqa-dv2tq1cy4t8 ай бұрын
Honourable Mbeki,you are quite right but there are young people who now take stand to fix South Africa and have answered your question of what kind of a country we want.Vote arise south Africa.
@NkosinathiMasoeu9 ай бұрын
I still wonder what is it that makes people to join MKP I just need someone who can explain to me.
@PhumeleleSibeko-lu4cz9 ай бұрын
Is like asking that question to a phara after having taken a pool of his or her zolo.🚬😂😂VIVA Anc Viva!!
Because is our choice and is a new party sesicikekile ANC isihlukumeze kakhulu isimbele amathuna siphila amasela odoti asiliboni elinye qembu hope phendulekile
@jeoffreysebola94288 ай бұрын
Mr Mbeki can you see that your work as a Political Leader is far complete?Africa Needs You 😢
@TeeOff729 ай бұрын
So says someone who said his vote is secret
@lwazigobodo68409 ай бұрын
Every citizen's vote is a secret. DAH!
@TeeOff729 ай бұрын
@@lwazigobodo6840 everyone knows the narrative
@morrisngubane9 ай бұрын
Wena uguga kabi shame , uwudeli wahlulwa kabuhlungu e Polokwane Conference uBab Nxamalala ,..Cope founder Thabo Mbeki with 1,8000000 million members Currently,,,,,,,MK party founder Jacob Zuma 9000000 million more members currently Viva 💚💚💚🖤🖤🖤
@bhamuzarodrigues59839 ай бұрын
My president JZ, I only remember him reading a script saying 'in the beninging, in the......beni.. benini....in the beninging.'🤣
@malusilinganiso38629 ай бұрын
Mna I remember uBra Mbalula ethi parents must go to school and children must go to work eqhunye zidrugs 😅
@maropinini12629 ай бұрын
President Mbeki is still a great African thinker and policy maker but falls short on implementation yet one of the great African Leaders of the CONTINENT not just South Africa. Ndiyabulela Tata ngomsebenzi wakho, amazwi akho ayakhuthaza. Amandla 🇿🇦🇿🇦
@hloniphanindlela48009 ай бұрын
That on its own means nothing..mention what he did not just thinking..we all think..simply he said he wont campaign for anc now he's blaming Zuma for saying 😂😂😂..ixoki leli..#imenemene
@hloniphanindlela48009 ай бұрын
He even wanted 3rd term as president..you call him the best..he was selfish with that
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
You must be out of your mind. Where on earth have you seen a great policy maker for Africa who is not ready to give the land back to the owners.
@stephenmachipi97089 ай бұрын
Most of the comments come from a place of disappointment when Mbeki confirms he will be campaigning for his political party, the African National Congress. What were you expecting?
@JohnNalenk6 ай бұрын
Don't let the MA party to form the government with ANC party.
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
MK will have do better than EFF's 1st year campaigning elections, 😂 which will not happen
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
Dream on...we like it when you fulls underestimate MK.
@SgubhuMkhize9 ай бұрын
that's not the case sir/ madam, it's just that Msholozi is exploiting our tribalism. Unfortunately some traditional Zulus look at him only as a Zulu man not the character of a man
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
@@SgubhuMkhize agreed
@BronxWavy9 ай бұрын
@@Coco-kw3iv you are dreaming because numbers don't lie
@Coco-kw3iv9 ай бұрын
@@SgubhuMkhize uyabheda wena. Aphi amaZulu e Eastern and Western Cape for an example? Why did we qualify to be voted there?
@mahlomolankhabelane8 ай бұрын
The genocide in Rwanda was caused by french governments not president Kagame ,later France called for african summit.
@Ilovedoggie3139 ай бұрын
The ANC has operated with so much impunity for too long now. Regardless of who is at the top in this party, the rot is too widespread for this party to redeem itself. The biggest tragedy here, is the killing of a dream, all because the cadres have been feeding like pigs at the trough!
@wally2489 ай бұрын
Gubtas are coming back thanks to MK party😂
@leboramoreboli79509 ай бұрын
He himself said ANC re Mkodoyi
@bing26919 ай бұрын
MK should be competing with IFP and stop day dreaming.
@siphosakhemajola91369 ай бұрын
If that's the case ANC must stop being obsessed about MK
@samkelisiwecarolmlambo82319 ай бұрын
You guys scared of MK and you make me laugh🤣😂...you must understand that we are going to vote MK either you like it or not..ANC will be out by 30th of May...
@malusilinganiso38629 ай бұрын
9.7 million members in 3 months can't compare and compete with 400 000 members in 60 years baba vuka.
@bing26919 ай бұрын
@@malusilinganiso3862you smoke too much crack that's your problem
@bing26919 ай бұрын
@@samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231It's your right to vote, nobody is stopping you, but remember Shaka Zulu is dead 😭