[8Q][4k] Union Pacific in the Georgia Jungle, Trains on the CSX Abbeville Sub, GA 04/23-06/04/2022

Union Pacific locomotives do not typically see this much green as it is abundant in North Georgia in Spring. In fact, some areas are so overgrown that they resemble a jungle. Spring saw surprisingly many UP locomotives on CSX trains on the Abbeville Subdivision - some of which are featured in this video. Among those were the military trains S838 and S871. The former carried explosives, and loads of the latter included a plethora of American tanks, from lightly armored personal carriers M113 over Bradley infantry vehicles to Abrams M1A2 heavy tanks and their recovery helpers. Naturally, in this video we chase this very interesting train for 25 track miles from Elberton, GA to Hull, GA.
The regular manifest Q583 shown in the video had four UP units, two at the head end and two as mid-train distributed power. The train was lead by a good-looking EMD SD70ACe.
A curiosity in the video is manifest Q606, which is not regularly running this line. Originating in New Orleans, LA and usually bound for Waycross, GA, this one went to Hamlet, NC.
Eventually, Q580 is the only train in the video that appeared in its usual format, although even he had a special thing to offer - an ST70AH trailing.
Enjoy!

[@rolpfeiffer4011]

Thanks airing The outstanding video with magnificent locomotives. Your endeavors are prominent. Bliss

[@mbmars01]

Great you enjoyed it!

[@nickjudy4946]

WOW! S871-02 was the first train ever that I actually recorded and chased. Glad I came upon this video!

[@mbmars01]

Yeah, this was a good one!

[@louispaparella5766]

Welcome back...I was starting to get the Lonesome Lack Of Railroad Blues!

[@mbmars01]

Haha, it's been a while indeed.

[@Zsolti0NYM]

I'm a UP fan, so I really enjoyed the video. Especially the first train, because the lead locomotive is one of my favourite, the good old AC4460CW. Of course the others are nifty too. The military vehicles are very serious. It's great to see your stuff again, thanks for the update. :)

[@mbmars01]

Awesome! The rebuild really still looked very shiny. I also liked the AC60s. CSX had a couple of them and we would frequently get to see them here on this line. It's sad they're gone.

[@iusetano]

Excellent video.

[@mbmars01]

Thanks very much!

[@dcmkris]

Excellent videos as usual. The ammunition train likely contained small arms munitions. DOT Class 1.10 & 1.40, there are 6 classifications 1.1 thru 1.6 least to most dangerous. Class 1.1 - 1.4 are Products with no significant risk of creating a blast or hazard. This is the reason why no buffer cars are required and the DPU can be used. The heavy armor trains was equipment from 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division from Fort Bliss, TX returning from Korea where they had been deployed as the 9th standard Rotational Brigade ~ in support of 2 Infantry Division / Republic of Korea-US Combined Division.

[@mbmars01]

Thanks so much. Very interesting! I never tried to figure out where these units came from.

[@dcmkris]

@@mbmars01 To be honest it wasn't until all the hysteria over movements early in pandemic that I took a ton of interest. I noted before hand myself but after thought if people knew how normal it is it would perhaps cut down on overacting to a move.

[@scottmccullough6136]

Great job MB, you know I love those SD70's no matter whose they are. Awesome catch and chase on the Military Train as well, I wish we had more of those come thru here. Keep up the great work.

[@mbmars01]

Thanks, Scott. It was definitely nice to see some EMD power again. This second military train was awesome. I'm happy I got multiple shots of it.

[@StonewallTitlow]

Interestingly enough, the engines on Q583-01 were on another Q606 earlier the month before that headed up to Rocky Mount, got sent over to Nashville on Q582, headed up to Cincinnati on Q576 (I missed that), came back down to Nashville on Q573 (saw the two head end engines on 5 train day after Memorial Day), and then on Q583 in the video.

[@derricktherailfan]

Your videos are always perfect!! 😀

[@mbmars01]

Thanks for your kind comment. Cool you like watching the videos here :)

[@SilverCometMedia]

First Coast Railroad boxcar at 10:45! Excellent video, and a crazy amount of yellow on our line recently

[@mbmars01]

Very cool you identified that boxcar. I didn't notice it. Yeah, lots of yellow, but we don't complain :)

[@cdiddles.]

Love the K3HL on 7030. Nice catches too!

[@mikehowey4869]

Nice catches of the military trains,thanks for sharing this!

[@mbmars01]

You're welcome, Mike!

[@johnwatson8820]

great shots yet again, faultless filming, 5* all the way ,take care, many thanks from suffolk uk. ns fan and modeller.

[@mbmars01]

Very cool, great you enjoyed the video!

[@MrEferrell]

Good catch of CSX 8906, one of only 10 in the fleet.

[@mbmars01]

Thanks! It would have been nice to see it leading, but I've seen it before.

[@up1943productions]

Good Railfanning! 👍

[@mbmars01]

Thanks!

[@williamdavid9333]

Great video! Thanks for sharing!

[@mbmars01]

Good you like it. You're welcome!

[@hadesdescent6664]

I might add I saw CSX 7506 leading CM44AH ex 500 series looking brand new Yes ✓

[@Nicola636128]

Seeing this video one would think that the CSX is short of locomotives, after having removed the entire equipment of SD60 (with the sub-models "M" and "I"), SD50 and almost all the C40-8 / W. Apart from this consideration, great video and catches.

[@mbmars01]

This video may be a bit misleading. Most trains here have CSX power. It's just convenient to use foreign run-through power if it is available. Great you like the video!

[@Georgiarailvideos6325]

nice video

[@mbmars01]

Thank ya!

[@steventurner820]

Interesting, not only are they not running buffers on the train with explosives, but they are also putting a mid train DPU right in the middle of all of it

[@mbmars01]

I know, it's weird. I also wondered about it.

[@SlaterDozierRailroadMedia]

Great catches!

[@mbmars01]

Thanks, Slater!

[@TrainsOfBrazil]

Great stuff man, keep it up!!

[@mbmars01]

Cool you like it, thanks!

[@metronorthrailfan2244]

So basically, S838 is a special type of intermodal train that carries explosives that would otherwise not be seen on regular intermodal traffic.

[@mbmars01]

I have seen cuts with containers containing explosives on manifests, but it's unlikely to see them on regular intermodal trains, which on many lines have higher speed limits.

[@metronorthrailfan2244]

@@mbmars01 that would make sense as to why you wouldn’t see them on regular intermodal traffic. It’s not like it’s a priority intermodal like I032

[@syahdanalwirf2.]

Nice

[@mbmars01]

Thanks!

[@hadesdescent6664]

Those trains (except military) are not Q anymore but M. 7030 is as delivered AC60/44AC w 16-FDL engine 4400hp, I don't know if UP designates them as C44ACM, M yes! As usual I love your neck of the woods and the trains there! Big like 👍🏽👍🏽 up ❗🤘🏽🙋🏻‍♂️

[@mbmars01]

Right, but when the trains were filmed they still had Q symbols, so I kept the old designation. UP has rebuilt AC60s into C44ACMs. Thanks, great you enjoyed the video!

[@hadesdescent6664]

@@mbmars01 okay 👍, about UP they had C60AC and C60/44AC (first were 7500-7579 6000hp, and the second 7300-7335+7010-7079>7336-7405 and back to 7010-7079 always with V16 FDL 4400hp engines (like SD9043) and they are upgraded (retained original cabs) along with many C44ACs to M. Ex 7500 series is 6900 class now and I think EVOLUTION engines! Anyway, I wanted to point out that there are UP AC6000/4400CWs from the mid '90s and 4400 HP of, now M, but also classic AC4400CW Ms now ,not to be confusing about it when writing a model designation 👍👍👍🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙂

[@mbmars01]

Actually, none of the AC60s ever had 6,000hp engines. They were promised by GE, but could never be successfully engineered. Eventually, these locomotives were later designated AC4460CW by GE, because they received a 4,400 hp engine, but were not to be confused with the AC4400CWs. UP has an own designation system, because many of their locomotives received special modifications not present in the "stock" variants. Therefore, for UP locos, I typically list both GE and UP designations. I'm not consistent in this, though; CSX and CN also have own systems, but in those cases I usually only use the more common GE designations. The designation schemes are often rather confusing, for which there are multiple historical reasons, but that's another story :)

[@laurofedrigo8791]

Boa noite, parabéns pelo excelente trabalho,ferrovias,o melhor transporte para o progresso,valeu um grande abraço, sou de Santa Catarina Brasil.

[@mbmars01]

Big hugs back to Santa Catarina. Makes me feel like I want to return to Brazil for another visit... Very cool you like the video.

[@dvanscotty6577]

I couldn't count the number of military vehicles! Just curious. As always great video!

[@mbmars01]

It wasn’t a long train, but it’s rare seeing so many tanks on a single one. Thanks!

[@nmpxxx]

Q606 was enroute due to either curfew or derail about 20 to 30 miles south of Manchester, GA

[@mbmars01]

This sounds plausible, but he really went all the way up to Hamlet. This happened multiple times.

[@StonewallTitlow]

@@mbmars01 probably because of either curfew or Waycross was just full.

[@mbmars01]

@Stonewall Titlow Could be!

[@colefd]

I'd bet the ammo train precedes the arms train to the docks on their way to Poland to outfit the new American base...

[@mbmars01]

The vehicle train went west. It was probably just one of the typical domestic moves of equipment.

[@Enjoyer.762]

1:37 Foreign power bonus 8,800. 1:44 GE toaster overheating lol 3,000. 2:18 Mid Train DPU / PSR length bonus 4,400. Foreign power bonus 8,800. 4:20 Up the grade capture 3,000. 6:36 Smokin' diesels 3,000. 7:19 ST70AHAHA! 8,600. 11:39 Mid Train DPU / PSR length bonus 4,300. MAC attack 8,600. 14:27 Foreign power bonus 17,200. SD70M bonus 8,600. 14:59 Foreign power bonus 17,400. A pair of Double Ds (DPUs)17,400. SD70M bonus 8,600. 15:22 Poor track maintenance capture lol 3,000. 19:39 Foreign power bonus 17,600. 20:54 Railfanning in the shrubs and poison ivy lol 3,000. Whatever it takes to capture the shot and achieve the maximum YT competitive railfanning points lol. 21:30 Over the train shot 3,000. 21:48 Flange squeal 1,000. 23:11 Mini horseshoe curve shot 3,000. 25:02 0 railfanning bonus points lol. 28:13 The infamous rollercoaster Abbeville Sub division strikes again lol 6,000. 29:04 Chuggalicious lol GE 3,000. 29:35 Smokin' diesels 3,000. 243,600 total YT competitive railfanning points awarded. 142,600 total bonus points.

[@mbmars01]

Thanks for counting! Sounds like a good score 😀 Regarding the other comments: no further discussion of politics on this channel, please.

[@mbmars01]

I sent you an email to the email address you used when we communicated this way the last time.

[@Pasha_90]

Excellent video my dear friend 👍🙂 greetings from Ukraine 👋✌️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@mbmars01]

Good you like the video. Greetings to Ukraine!

[@ethanjohnson9664]

You should film in waycross

[@danielt4250]

YES! The CSX yard is the gateway to Florida and the west. Definitely recommend it!

[@mbmars01]

I've been in Waycross multiple times, but I didn't find it easy to film trains there. The yard is off-limits to railfans. I prefer Folkston and Cordele, which see much of the Waycross traffic, too.

[@mikeg1280]

just a curious question or two maybe first when a train has multiple locomotives why is they are always positioned front to back also all locomotives I have seen have a 4 number display what do those number mean ?? is it a numerical way of defining the locomotives model or is it the just the rail company way of keeping track of the where a bouts of that locomotive

[@mbmars01]

Ideally, the nose of the first loco points forward and that of the last backward, because when they run back on the next train the crew doesn't need to wye the engines (usually, railroads prefer to run their lead locos short-hood forward). The road number of a loco doesn't have always four digits, but almost all modern engines have four. The road number basically just serves as an identifier.

[@csxwrldgalvin8883]

CSX Sd70mac dpu on csx manifest train

[@caydrickcastle8546]

Hey mbmars idk if you remember me at all from other vids but what scanner do you use if you use one?

[@mbmars01]

I do remember you! I use a Uniden BC125AT scanner.

[@DetroitAreaRailfan]

What Camera Do You Use For Filming? Is It The Sony AX53?

[@mbmars01]

I've used a Panasonic camcorder WXF1 for this video.

[@DetroitAreaRailfan]

@@mbmars01 Cool! I Might Look Into It! Is That The 4K Camcorder You Use All The Time?

[@mikehowey4869]

Has anyone heard from mbmars? Been a couple months since he put a video on here.

[@mbmars01]

No worries, I'm still alive :) It's been quite busy lately, but I really should work on a new video soon.

[@CapStar362]

Access doors open on the container train leading unit?

[@mbmars01]

Probably for supplying additional air. It was a hot day.

[@dannyhaley7610]

why were the side doors open on the up 7030?

[@ElPasoTexasRailfan639]

That K3HL sounds good and fould and why did it have the doors open

[@mbmars01]

Good question!

[@jasonsideburns1045]

When the rear doors are open, it keeps the engine from overheating.

[@ElPasoTexasRailfan639]

Oh

[@metronorthrailfan2244]

@@jasonsideburns1045 So it basically allows the engine to vent?

[@justinblackburn4356]

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[@user-yi6xz9zl8j]

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[@Russian862]

Отлично. Для России железные дороги имеют большое значение в перевозки грузов. Glory to Russia!🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

[@mbmars01]

Absolutely. Railroads are still important almost everywhere. I know Russia has a great rail network. Unfortunately, I didn't have the time to explore it during a visit to Moscow more than 10 years ago. Слава России и Украине - oстановите эту глупую войну!

[@Russian862]

@@mbmars01 Спасибо. Самая моя дальняя поездка была Москва - Владивосток. На Украине это не война а специальная военная операция по денацификации и демилитаризации Украины. Освободить Donbass и обезопасить Россию от NATO. Скоро поеду на Донбасс восстанавливать Мариуполь. Я инжинер - строитель. Мир вам и вашему дому. Привет из России. 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

[@mbmars01]

Пожалуйста, не верьте пропаганде.

[@Russian862]

@@mbmars01 Какая пропаганда...? Запад 8 лет не видел как Украина убивала людей на Донбассе а я это видел. Я был там с 2014 по 2017 год. За нами правда Мы победим! Где Россия, там мир.

[@danielt4250]

@@Russian862 That's propaganda that your being lied to. Please don't believe it or spread it.

[@krokoddyll3567]

Hi, I have been watching your great videos a lot. I got tired of it for one reason. Putting the Ukrainian flag on your profile picture is pretty pathetic. If you're not Ukrainian, put your country's flag there or whatever.

[@mbmars01]

Nothing is pathetic here. If you followed the communication with the Russian viewer here in this comments section, you would certainly agree that it is important to express support for our democratic values that allow us to enjoy a lot of freedom in our life. These values are currently defended in Ukraine. I'm sure you know what's currently going on in Europe. Btw, I am European and my birthplace is only about as distant from Kyiv as New York is from Atlanta.

[@louispaparella5766]

@@mbmars01 Well said...