Silver Smelting & Refining From Film With Ancient Techniques

[@jillherren6585]

Thank you for this video. I'm studying silver refining in the Bible so this a great visual. I imagine this is how it was done or similar to the process mentioned in the Scriptures. Other videos are available with modern methods but this is much better for my lesson.

[@SistersInChrist365]

I’m watching for the same reason!

[@royaldiadem1611]

Same here😊

[@lizruiz4164]

I’m watching for the same reason!!!

[@anitakhumalo2928]

what a coincidence me too ❤😂

[@lamarjohnson9145]

Same 😂

[@tiffaniedavidsen5421]

Thank you for this video!!! I looked it up to help me understand Psalm 12!! Wow! Powerful!!

[@nickitoff9629]

Your videos are fascinating! I could watch you do these processes for hours. Then again I love rocks, minerals, and gems...and prospecting. Not a miner yet!

[@ProfaneGod]

Try heating the muriatic acid to boiling to make it more effective to get the iron out better its a refining technique used by chemical refiners.

[@BRP42]

My exact thought!

[@matthiaskidd439]

Why waste the time with HCl when you can use HNO3 (Nitric acid) it will disolve the Silver and other impurities which you can the use the reaction series to reduce the silvdr as a nice .999 silver.

[@ProfaneGod]

@@matthiaskidd439 because he wants to get the iron out in as few steps as possible and nitric will also dissolve the iron meaning another step to get the silver out.

[@ssteele1812]

Not to mention that Nitric costs about 4 times as much and is harder to source than going down to the local hardware store.

[@matthiaskidd439]

@@ProfaneGod if you use copper to reduce the silver from a Silver Nitrate Solution you wont need to worry about the Iron. It will stay in the Solution because of the Reaction Series, you can then use Iron to reduce out the Copper should you wish to do that and then it's easier to refine the Nitric acid Solution to be able to re-use it again

[@derekkelly4760]

Among the most educational and fascinating video series I have seen ,, thank you for saving my rear a cupel of times .

[@ericprater4017]

I love what you are doing! Keep it up, I'm learning so much about smelting, it's fascinating!

[@dn2817]

This was one of my favorite video’s you’ve made so far. Nice silver pyramid at the end!

[@gloriacoon7032]

Very interesting , My Pastor preached about refining like silver , and cupelling, and I was curious to see it for myself. Thankyou

[@barthanes1]

It's always fun to watch you melt stuff. Thanks for sharing.

[@daubinks]

I appreciate your videos so much, they are entertaining and educational.

[@pirobot668beta]

Howdy from Seattle! It figures the PNW would be a hot-bed for prospecting; all the geological 'fun' the area has... Every day I look out at the Olympics, the Cascades and think about the processes that made all that. I love living on top of a subduction zone!

[@yorkazuna5934]

I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to explain things so clearly and for not being afraid to experiment with different techniques.

[@danielparsons5519]

Interesting steps. I would prefer Nitric acid after silver shot with heat. Yes Nitric costs but you can easily make your own. Thing is after all metals are dissolved you just precipitate with copper and the Silver nitrate and copper trade places and your left with near pure elemental silver powder while copper is in solution. But I do love your process you just showed as well. Great job👍

[@tedschuler6620]

You are about the only refiner on KZbin who is not chew your arm off tedious

[@yoopermann7942]

thank you for the science expeirment this morning, it was cool to see!

[@GeoffBosco]

That one shot of your propane/air setup told me more about how to build a propane furnace than the thousands of "DIY furnace" builds here on youtube that either show them using an expensive premade propane nozzle or a convoluted complex process to build their own. Thank you.

[@saidosman2609]

Thank you Jason for your effort and videos . Huge fan of your mining method ,Here in East Africa Somaliland .

[@robinmarie8213]

This is absolutely beautiful to watch. Thank you, and bless you. 🌻

[@brettnewman7390]

I like your show! You speak well and you keep things interesting.

[@dand3475]

Having several hundred pounds of those silver ion exchangers left by my dad. He never quite solved the proses of getting the silver out of them without burning up the crucibles. He burned quite a few up. Going to give your proses a try and hope to get enough to buy more crucibles to get all the silver out of them. Hope to get over 1000oz. Now if I can find a easy way to clean up the bleach fixer silver bars we have.... You are my first subscribed channel. Thanks for the information.

[@MOHDNAEEMTAPPING]

We me and brother always enjoy your videos, we do smelting as a backyard hobbyists. We find that cupellation is a challenge for us because we are unable to vaporize the lead totally, someone advice us to do cupelle on lime we did but not succeed Can you please advice us or your best video link

[@glennwmurphy1]

NICE JOB CLEARLY EXPLAINED, THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEO.

[@JimNichols]

I love the science behind the reactions of metal, carbon and portland cement that you take the time to explain, and then the fact that you TAKE the time to explain it. I have smelted aluminum to use in a lost wax process item that I wanted to cast but like a Neanderthal banging to rocks together and making fire by accident, I accidently made a nice finished aluminum piece. The science I understand and the videos are well narrated, your narration is well toned and perfectly informative. Thank you for the time and effort the videography and editing take and sharing your passion for smelting and recovery of precious metals.

[@157dixon]

That was definitely worth it. Thanks for the video

[@dionbritten]

Really do enjoy this channel great recovery

[@mikeconnery4652]

Great video definitely liked watching the melt and the end products. Also your explanations.

[@ascott6804]

18:00 just go and watch that! Coolest practice I have ever seen!! New sub!!

[@DavidJohnson-ex3fu]

In a few months I'm going to be moving to Tennessee, in fact the eastern part of Tennessee. This is where the gold belt is in I am going to begin a hobby and gold prospecting. I will be using a great number of your video examples to refine gold and such. Jason oh, thank you very very much for doing all the experiments that you do. Unfortunately as far as the equipment goes, I will be building my own jaw Crusher and other equipment. I'm an inventor to begin with oh, and I love the challenge of building my own stuff. I've never used a MIG welder before oh, so that's going to be fun and a little challenging to operate for the first time. The Jason I think that you are a wonderful individual and you certainly do care about showing people how to do certain things and that to me is just wonderful

[@artsmith103]

Vdc Flux Welder is a great way to start. Even the Harbor Freight model does a good job with name brand wire.

[@josephpecoul6532]

I saw those small silver beads and I saw them coming together making bigger silver beads nice

[@THR33STEP]

Nice job!! Great result!!

[@tsitts]

Just an observation from an armchair physicist. If you had a spent/cracked #20 crucible sawn off at 6/7 inches from bottom as a mold for cement, would it make recovery more efficient for larger items?

[@danielclayton3170]

Thanks for spending the time an money to inform your viewers.

[@ChatterontheWire]

Always good to watch! Hopefully fairly pure silver at this point.

[@justinminer7952]

@13:40 That was very satisfying to watch. Thank you for that.

[@GSProspecting]

that was cool fam. loads of great info. GOLD SQUAD OUT!!!

[@burnroe6611]

Thanks for all the smelting tips like how recover the lead would love to see a video on that if you ever get time

[@OwlTech333]

Very simple yet effective! Love the video, great visuals!

[@VendettaProspecting]

So any idea what that metallic iron was from yet

[@oneshotme]

Nice!! Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

[@tawnihaynie1065]

Hi Jason. Great video. Please stay safe and healthy and take care of yourself and your family members. To all members also. Talk to you later my friend. ☺☺☺😇😇😇

[@aumetalmental8403]

Just thinking,🤔 couldn't you have dilute after crushing and use a magnet to pull a lot of that iron off, then dry again and proceed? 😎✌️

[@quantroots]

I don't think so because it's mixed in with the silver.

[@snarky_user]

I believe that film is now considered an ancient technology, too.

[@johnhdavis2072]

Good vid. I would have out the raw material in warm HCL first to remove the Iron.

[@BeefZupreme]

That is such a beautiful piece!

[@desinfector]

8:40 looks like plate tectonics in a time-lapse of 2bn years. and it even creates quite similar shapes of continents.

[@fpvsky2887]

It'll be interesting if you gave a breakdown of the cost for propane and materials to get your final product

[@joshp6061]

Didn’t do an XRF scan to check the silver? I’m wondering how much iron was left in it

[@GeoffBosco]

@@reverendtfg6802 That's fewer irons than I expected

[@IsBeLovly]

Question could one of those heating bowls be made with a magnet 🧲 on one side within the bowl? I wonder what would happen.

[@nolanfoster6782]

If you have alot of iron to seperate would it help filter out by placing magnets on the outside bottom of the cone mold( attract the iron )

[@maxmotta1200]

magnets loose their magnatism when they get hot

[@nolanfoster6782]

@@maxmotta1200 could you freez the magnets in dry ice or liquid nitrogen and not have the magnets so close since freezing magnets enhance their magnetism?

[@maxmotta1200]

@@nolanfoster6782 i dont know that maybe possable but duobtfull it wuold have to be a very stong magnet and the hesting process takes some time that i dont think the cold wuold last that time but there is magnets that wont loose thete magnetism with heat but very expensive

[@maxmotta1200]

@@nolanfoster6782 its better to use s magnet at the very start of the process to remove as much iron as possable

[@nolanfoster6782]

@@maxmotta1200 thanks for the reply I might make a video experimenting with the magnets and will link it to you if I do

[@MrAllan9]

Been enjoying the vids for quite some time then realized I wasn't subbed, I am now.

[@robertostman2075]

hey there, I have been looking at a ton of videos related to gold and other metals, is there a way to work for a prospector like yourself as a miner, panner, etc... I would like to try

[@BillMulholland1]

🍻👍 I watch another channel about smelting and they put a piece of cardboard between the crucible and brick to prevent them from sticking together.

[@Alondro77]

I found that the warm dilute nitric acid (50% concentrated nitric with 50% water) works well, then adding concentrated sodium chloride works fantastically. Wash the chloride 3 times in distilled water to remove all dissolved base metals. Save the acid solution for neutralizing with the base leftover from later steps. If it's blue, then there's a lot of copper you can recover easily with a clean piece of iron. Then add double the volume of the white silver chloride precipitate of sodium hydroxide and heat under a thin layer of water to about 60-70C overnight, stirring with a plastic rod every hour or two. That converts the chloride quite well to silver oxide. Then dump the excess solution into the acid waste. Lots of black stuff will form (mostly iron hydroxide if you did copper recovery using iron). After washing twice with distilled water, you can reduce the silver oxide with either drying and smelting with carbon, or just dumping a bunch of corn syrup or plain table sugar into the wet goop (make sure there's enough clean water to cover it. The reaction works better when the sugar can dissolve.) I've done two little batches that way and ended up with two ounces of very pure silver, over 99.5%.

[@goldandsilverminingintheci8942]

I enjoy your knowledge and your videos. Thanks.

[@jasonkeithprospecting6737]

Heat you acid treatment it helps the reaction to progress much faster

[@knockhello2604]

again shit I could've never thought of xD. How? What're the ingredients to the acid

[@roywhipple4923]

Using sulfuric acid and water is the best way to get the iron out , it dissolves all base metals except for lead, and the iron and water react well enough with sulfuric acid that you will need a heat resistant bucket, but all you would have left is lead silver and any gold.

[@miguelbobadilla-lagunas7783]

Awesome video !! Thanks for sharing!

[@SquareCoinTalk]

Thank you Jason as always very interesting

[@MrDutchman100]

Jason ...... spot on.

[@sfbfriend]

Very interesting, really liked this. What about dissolving and then precipitation? With iron and lead in the silver Im not sure how, I am only familiar with silver and copper. Curious though

[@getprobed838]

you could use a soray bottle with water and mist the outside if the cement bowl to make it harden a bit incase the flames want to blow the cement everywhere

[@kurtremislettmyr7108]

Wonder what would happen if you stuck a pipe through the wool with the end directly above the metal cupelling. It would deliver fresh air directly to the metal. Heat would pull the air, could even use compressed air.

[@itstheadventureimtalkingab4016]

This is some great information thanks for the demonstration

[@shaneyork300]

3 quarters of a kilo! Not bad!! Have a Great Day!!!

[@wmenager]

try adding niter to oxidize the iron then use some silica and soda ash with the borax to form an iron rich slag and to protect your crucible from corrosion.

[@rasheedmaghrani1610]

Hello thank you for your super video .what sort of cement you use . Its a normal cement or what . Please explain to me

[@tomclark3357]

Just plane old Portland cement

[@johnh9748]

With the acid, agitating will help remove more iron. as the acid dissolves the iron, it forms a layer of spent acid on the surface. That spent acid is no longer reactive. Agitating the mixture will constantly expose fresh, unspent acid to the surface.

[@Doitnoelsway]

Why was I tipping my phone over the same very time he was tipping the Crucible into the mould. Lol.

[@Goodellsam]

How is the purity of silver determined? I have some silver that is not marked. How can I test it?

[@VendettaProspecting]

My lead buttons oxidize but the precious metal button keeps sticking to the cupel, and ideas what im doing wrong?

[@dennishall3370]

Witch meathead is safer to use, what is the difference in cost and storage?

[@deeveevideos]

Is it true you can use sulfur to refine gold and silver and remove impurities with it?

[@markrady9465]

I saw that you were using Iron to cement out the silver which will work but a copper bus bar will remove the silver better according to the "Reactivity Series Of Metals". Iron will cement out more than silver it will also cement out nickle, tin, and copper which will be mixed in your silver melt

[@Chuxgold]

Was wondering. How many melts do you get off a 25 pound bottle of propane? Probably have said. But guess I missed that one.

[@jeffreywhitmoyer860]

Late to the show as usual, a couple things to mention. There is still a fair amount of film used in industrial X-ray, digital imaging isn't generally accepted for military components requiring X-ray. Jason, no guarantees as to how it would work, but have you ever considered lancing the melt with oxygen to reduce the iron, then following up with an argon lance to drive the oxides out? That may reduce the number of steps required to purify the silver.

[@pixelpatter01]

The take away here is to not use iron as your reducing agent when precipitating out dissolved silver. Use scrap copper wire instead.

[@kenchappelle816]

I have a mineral claim with a lot of silver in with the free mill gold how do I recover the silver ?

[@pdriot9424]

Awesome video!

[@BigSargeH]

Suggestion I know it's way late but silver bonds to Zn something like 300x more to Zn lead then Floats to surface like slag. Then remelt and separate the Zn floating on top the molten siver

[@jeffarto8340]

Just wow!!!

[@sparksmcgee6641]

Dude flashback!!!!! My first job was at a company that processed medical imagery for silver. Old xrays. I was 14.

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

That weird iron/lead stuff looks like the alloy they make pipe organ tubes out of. It has that visible surface crystal structure. Which stands to reason, organ pipe metal a lead alloy to reduce resonance.

[@rogerclaiborne6815]

Might want to use the acid wash first to remove iron before attempting to smelt in furnace. The silver plated and mixed iron would be much easier to remove before you melted it into an alloy.

[@rogerclaiborne6815]

I think dilute sulfuric acid might be better at getting more iron wool residue out of the silver than muratic as well.

[@pneumatic00]

@@rogerclaiborne6815 Agree, sulfuric.

[@knockhello2604]

How do you guys know this shit lol

[@mouldykev]

Hi Jason i need to ask a very important question. When you Cupel for Gold extraction with Lead collector metal, most of the base metals are oxidised into the cupel. Does this process get rid of tin also. Merry Christmas from the uk

[@CaptainRadack]

It would have been really cool if you did it like they did it 2000 years ago with what they used to contain the metal, the type of fire and bellows, you know make it real like they did it back then.

[@colleenbaver7161]

Jason, just curious why add iron to your process? I have seen this done a lot and I don't understand. Because then you have to remove the iron.?

[@danielwharton4088]

ever try using soda ash along with the borax?

[@thegrandlevel313]

Potassium nitrate in a smelting furnace?! I’m glad I’m at home watching.

[@S13402]

How was that metallic cone mold made, welding?

[@monkeyman2174]

Price of silver block would be nice to know.

[@Red9GearHead]

Easy math man. Today silver spot price is .78 per gram. Roughly $ 585.00 assuming it was pure silver and my maths not screwy.

[@artsmith103]

750 grams. About 30 grams per ounce = 25 Oz. $24/0z. ~$600

[@diggindiggenit6540]

Curious if you have ever tried to recover silver out of copper and retain the copper also?

[@danadavis123]

What is the pyramid that you use to pour the smelt into called? I can't find this anywhere. Please help.

[@PartridgeFamilyProspecting]

New to your channel new sub.. crazy process!! Ill be watching more! Thanks for sharing with us!

[@exploringnorthernontario9627]

Great video Jason! I was surprised how well the borax reduced the melting point of the silver. That cement cupel was very interesting as well. I want to try and smelt some Pentlandite nickel ore, any ideas how I could reach 1455 C to melt the nickel with propane and then remove the iron? You thoughts would be much appreciated!

[@mattiler7698]

You can easily reach that with a propane torch you just need to get some kaywool like his in the video and put a lid on it like his and there you go

[@prospectorpete]

when u started with silver in solution , why didnt u just put copper in so the silver drops out ? or when you made silver cornflake you could have disolved the silver with nitric acid

[@hendrahendro9794]

Indonesia,,keren bos👍👍👍

[@jason101386]

this is simple. i like this video

[@nickford5549]

Desolving and crashing out of solution is the way to go. Check out the reactivity series of metals.

[@tutorialpengolahansilvergo8029]

I was inspired. want to know how long it takes to make metal melt and at what temperature comrades

[@roywhipple4923]

And how much would you charge to make one of those smaller cone molds and ship it over?

[@1616katerst]

Put a piece of cardboard on the bricks you set the crucible on coming out of the furnace. Yes it will burn and smoke instantly but only a few seconds. The bricks won’t stick to bottom of crucible and saves tear outs on the bottom or trying to kick the bricks off or not even getting them off for the next melt.