Suspension Set-Up Masterclass | MBR & Mojo

[@srao8350]

This gentleman is a suspension genius

[@youtubeattacker]

Not really lol. Just different tone. Try ask Morgan Freeman to narrate suspension setup. With Han Zimmer as scoring. And directed by Christopher Nolan.

[@Sphoxros]

That would be EPIC O.O! lolz

[@abelramos8652]

I feel this man would be not only my mechanic but even my psychotherapist

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

While I'm certainly no novice when it come to suspension setup, I still really enjoyed this..... Great info, laid out in easily to understand terms and the interviewer didn't interrupt with a bunch of useless replies. Well done guys!

[@Antweak83]

ThunderStruckCoach well put. I totally agree.

[@JamesStoup]

This is probably one of the best suspension setup video's I've watched. I love how the focus is on setting it up to the rider. Notice how he glossed over sag/air spring rate and said that will change based on how hard you're pushing the bike. Explaining how he gets balanced and focusing on no compression unless needed to adjust ride high in certain sections of trail is huge. Much much better than the other sag/rebound/compression setup videos.

[@southernaccent]

Hahaha, love it! Bob Ross of suspension!

[@TapsaTre]

:D

[@WasabiWei]

This is the best technical video I have seen in quite some time. Chris Porter took a deep dive into the material rather than just handing out factory spec. guidelines. Although he suggested baselines he explained what to look for while adjusting for terrain/surface and rider style. Great explanations! Thanks so much! That was a true Master Class.

[@arfmf]

Here I an one year later to seccond that. I would like to add that the reporter was great by staying silent and letting the master teach, his tone overflows knowledge and commands attention with ease... beautifull... as a newbie learned so much from this great video... I'm watching this 2 years later, still spot on.

[@jandevuyst5864]

​@@arfmfwell said!

[@mdgeroy]

Absolutely no nonsense set up tips and recommendations. He knows his stuff.

[@chadrides914]

ASMR for mountainbike guys. Loved this. Lots of good information. Thanks for sharing.

[@kukko83]

This man has the enviable skill of talking sense, while performing a delicate mechanical operation. For me it's either-or.

[@Cakeborb]

love his honesty. "don't use that" (the high speed compression on the fork). saying you should try to get the air pressure and volume spacers to do the work of getting it balanced and correct before you start using compression. Good stuff

[@mikehawk120]

Dude was awesome. Love his chill demeanor. Need more like him around.

[@KA5Hx]

Who knew Ser Jorah knew so much about suspension

[@rgmtb]

How amazing would it be to have him setup our bikes! I've got missed feelings after watching this video. On one hand I now realize just how amazing a proper suspension setup it. On the other hand I'm wondering if I will ever even come close to knowing enough to get my suspension dialed in. Even if I think my suspension is dialed in today I'm going to wonder if it could be better. Great video!

[@chadrides914]

Regular Guy Mountain Biking don’t obsess over it. Just ride your bike.

[@hogepief]

Love the background info on *why* you would bother with some of these settings. Best suspension set-up vid I have seen in a while!

[@starsky8351]

Great video, Im a return mountain biker after an 18 year gap. Sooo much to learn. My other bikes were coil so good to get an understsnding. Ive had to learn all the riding skills again so Im not very agressive out on the track. I was only using half the travel from other recommended setups. I see now that I need to set it up for me and by current riding style. Thank you for this, great vid!

[@l.carroll9076]

Really enjoyed this. Gave me a lot to think about with my setup on my Fox 36 and X2. I'd be stoked to see more content like this.

[@Mr_RichardH]

That's a great 12 minutes. He really knows his stuff.

[@brettneuberger6466]

This video will eventually end up on one of those unintentional ASMR channels with a zillion views. Great info and very soothing.

[@MBAStudios]

Really great video ! I have watched a lot of suspension setup vids so far, but this is really one of the best.

[@hallstewart]

Great explanation thanks. I lock the fork on my HT on smooth standup climbing,for support.

[@walterlafleur8961]

This is so good. I've been thinking about low speed compression a lot lately and this really set off a lightbulb for me. Using LSC to load either the front or the rear during corners is something that would have taken me a long time to come up with.

[@thepalmpilot3g]

By far the most educational suspension setup i've ever watched!!!! Thanks for the great info

[@neilriordan9300]

over complicated load of bollox my head is hurting.

[@jandevuyst5864]

Enjoyed every second of this video! Nicely and understandable explanation, more info here than most 20min or more suspension videos! I m already curious for your next posts. Good job guys!! 👌

[@jussiniemi3.07]

That guy could teach anything and make it interesting and easy to learn! Great video guys!

[@willd0g]

I took notes! Very informative

[@theodounis]

Can you pls do a review setup tune for the fox dpx2

[@willshawyer7280]

Bloody thank you, I was going bonkers with the x2 setup

[@nickhobbs955]

This was really helpful, thanks!

[@silentrac]

Some good tips, which ill be trying on tomorrows ride, but now I need this for my Bos DeVille and Bos Kirk , they are a PITA ...

[@jonundercover]

I use low speed compression on my hard tail fork to keep the front end higher preserving the geometry.

[@0ntoowheels]

SIr, I need you in my life. Suspension angel of some sort!!

[@hobmarg]

I like Chris' rebound approximation test of looking at the entire bike as it moves through travel (car park test). Haven't heard that one before.

[@theodounis]

Great video Chris Porter can you do one video on the fox dpx2 and fox 36 fit4 150 mm boost

[@allenglishknives6823]

Excellent! Will be using this video to help with my setup. Thanks 👍🏻

[@totalglitch]

What alternative can you use besides fox float fluid? Can you ise the slickoleum or wpl oil instead? Thanks

[@jasoncruz3506]

We need more videos like this

[@Musicsson]

Very nicely explained. Even a new understands it.

[@Bigcubefan]

This video makes me feel like I set up my bike completely wrong.

[@willshawyer7280]

You’re not wrong

[@SouthernSender]

This was an amazing video!

[@urbanthedk4653]

I finally know how to set up rebound. This lad is suspension God

[@ApfelmannYT]

cool video!

[@gpa1978]

best explanation ever

[@MousesGjee]

Thank you for teaching sen master!

[@CMneilB]

Excellent informative stuff, thanks

[@archetypex65]

Spot on tutorial mate 👍✋ Thank you.

[@brendanscott8989]

what are those rims/wheels they look nice... Also this guy is sir jorah mormont the shock whisperer

EPIC!!! THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!!!

[@felipefarias7654]

I'm kinda confused, the guy from Vorsprung Suspension said that the best way to dial the rebound on the shock was to close de HSR and work with the LSR, if you need your suspension faster then just open the HSR until you get the desired rebound. This kinda contradict what this guy says about HSR at 5:09. Any thought on this?

[@MBRmagazine]

We would say there are no right or wrong answers when it comes to any aspect of set-up, just differing opinions. Try both and see which one works best for you.

[@richardhayter3919]

I would listen to Steve at Vorsprung any day of the week and not listen to the most on KZbin, just my opinion.

[@richardhayter3919]

@@MBRmagazine "There are no right or wrong answers when it comes to suspension setup" realy, REALY ? This may be why there's a lot of confused riders and even more poor setups.

[@CarlosSanchez-cq1lf]

what is the meaning of life?........ suspension setup....... suspension setup is the meaning of life.

[@oieyes]

Hahahaha

[@georgewrves7911]

Excellent.

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

Crackin legend. Epic boss, mega respect. Good man.

[@richardmiddleton7770]

Locking out the front is for climbing and sprinting out of the saddle in XC racing.

[@chrisoliver6690]

Mind still boggled...what are volume spacers for?

[@ladicius]

He blesses the suspension.

[@finncable5466]

How much does the tester Jamie weight and how much pressure is he running in the shock thanks??

[@jake30966]

Can you please tell me how much torque is needed to attach my Fox Van RC Performance to my 2018 Mondraker Summum ?

[@RobHill00]

Master class indeed!👍🏻

[@parisgalanis9165]

What was the reason for so many volume spacers in the X2? Did you bottom out?

[@muschebubu9]

I live in Oregon can I ride it on the beach

[@BaldAlan]

That information was completely lost on me but, I still enjoyed it!

[@doubleaadoubleaa5538]

Love the wheels on that bike! Which model wheels are those?

[@Windband1]

Don't know the model, but those are Crank Brothers.

[@adammccarthy2157]

Ahhh the sound of a gritty fox compression dial on its way to seizing up .... great

[@ojciecchrzestny4659]

I have a Fox float DPS can You do jumps on firm mode? On firm mode should be completely stiff? Mine on firm mode still does movements

[@neilclarke8817]

Great video but I’m still confused due to conflicting information on the net, I’ve Fox 34 Elite 2017, ride all sorts really but try to stay off fire roads. So the Ride Fox website says 15 to 20% for my model (actually they only list 120mm but mines 130) sag tool provided was for 120 as well. Most other videos including this one state 25 - 30% sag. So in my case rode all the black runs at my local trail centre fairly spicy i would say and only used 70% of my suspension all day. Do i ignore the FOX website and go with 30% which may help me use all my suspension or carry on using 15 - 20% and try volume spacers? Surly fox that designed the fork knows best?

[@MBRmagazine]

Try a slightly lower pressure in the fork and slightly more sag. Don't add volume spacers, as this will only make it harder to use all the travel.

[@neilclarke8817]

Mountain Bike Rider thanks for the reply - i meant to say take out a volume spacer - I’ll try more sag and play about with it

[@thefuzz83]

That little black dial on my 36 FIT4 is an "OPEN MODE" compression adjuster. Not a LSC adjuster. Is the 34 FIT4 set up differently?

[@nicoofner85]

The adjuster for the open mode is lowspeed compression

[@johnjohannemann536]

Great info 👍🏻

[@sultanabran1]

so when he says 'don't use low speed compression unless you have to'. does that mean run no damping, assuming the sag is correct and you have the right amout of volume spacers in? then us LSC to fine tune? if you're still blowing through the travel?

[@Windband1]

Blowing through the travel is a different issue than low speed compression damping. Blowing through the travel is either not enough air pressure, or you need to use more volume spacers. LSC damping is what gives/adds some resistance to slow inputs to the suspension, such as pumping rollers, fork diving when braking, carving a big berm, etc. That's why he says, if you don't need any LSC damping, then don't use it. If your volume spacers are good and the bike is handling well, but maybe your front end is getting too low in a corner, or your rear end is too soft when pedaling, then add some LSC damping (clockwise turns) to give the susp a little more support. Make sense?

[@sultanabran1]

@@Windband1 sorry, i meant HSC to fine tune if blowing through travel. in any case, did some riding on the weekend with the LSC open and maxed out volume spacers with the right sag. still bottoming out shock. so i use HSC and it stopped the bottoming. i have 10% travel remaining on the trail that uses most travel, with jumps and drops. thanks for your comment.

[@Windband1]

@@sultanabran1 Got it. What shock/fork are we talking about? So when you say "blow through the travel" do you mean use all the travel or are you bottoming out often? Regardless I would say at this point, you need more air. Some of the best experts in suspension actually say don't worry about using full travel, set up based on what feels best to you. Sag point is just a ballpark. If you're at maximum spacers and bottoming, you need more air. I would try that first, then if needed, add a little bit of HSC damping. That should get you there! Also remember if you add air, you may need to add a click of rebound damping too.

[@sultanabran1]

@@Windband1 thanks man. cane creek db air inline. running at 11bar (150 psi). blow through travel as in bottoming out. sag is about 30%. i'll experiment with putting hsc to 0 and see how much air i need to stop bottoming out then. however at the moment, it's at just under 30% with hsc at 3/4 turns. it feels really good and has about 10% travel left after doing some decent drops/jumps.

[@miguelnavarro2571]

Good insight....don't believe I caught what the high and low speed rebound settings were on the X2 shock. Anybody??

[@dominikgrbac1764]

Hi guys...I have a Rockshox revelation series 150mm fork...and I can not put any volume spacers i side becouse there is no thread on the inside of the air cap...those this mean that my fork isn't compatiable with volume spacers or I can buy a threaded volume top cap and put volume spacers inside

[@MBRmagazine]

You should be able to buy a threaded top cap from SRAM that will let you run bottomless tokens. Cheers

[@Noumenon2k]

Perfect

[@bobdunahee88]

Did he just add one compression spacer in place of the red one? 80 KG myself and running about 170psi and already added one extra in place of the red one (three total) is it safe to run 2 extra total of 4 in a 2.25 shock?

[@2025.yamaha.R1]

I have a question what if I like very slow rebound and want my fork to feel like slow rebound / have it, but want the rebound to be fast when needed how do I go about achieving that?

[@MBRmagazine]

Why do you want slow rebound?

[@2025.yamaha.R1]

@@MBRmagazine it feels great and planted makes steering and jumps feel predictable along with wide open bumpy areas I guess I just have to make it fast enough to not lose all that with lots of trial and error bracketing settings ,fast rebound makes the steering feel twitchy for me but makes slow technical sections feel much easier.

[@MBRmagazine]

Yeah, you said it yourself - the perfect damping setting is a balance that takes time and experimentation. If you're on a Kenevo SL i think Spesh has some detailed settings to use as a starting point in case you hadn't seen them.

[@dragonfire3102]

I just bought this shock , I'm Going to be running it with a boxxer on a gt fury 1.0 what happens if I don't put volume spacers in it ? I'm 190 , I have no clue about this shock I'm kinda scared feel like I bought something really exspensive an it's going to suck !

[@richardchick4133]

10:08 You can firm up the fork so you dont lose power when pedalling in the standing position !

[@DanielHanson343]

Exactly !

[@chm1701]

RichardChick. Yes, on the flat. He was referring to riding up a hill with it locked out and the front end staying propped up and not sitting in its sag position. So essentially, the fork locked out, creates a higher front end and causes you to lean more forward to put weight on the front. Makes sense to me.

[@DirtbergTV]

How do you lose pedalling power through your fork?

[@coopercampbell1674]

your suspension absorbs it rather than it going into the wheels, so on and so forth

[@nathan42694]

tom harrison having the body positioned to far foward while pedaling puts the weight more into the fork, and vice versa. Find the balance of body position

[@MrGoforthewin]

how is that bottle cage mounted? zip ties, but is there something else?

[@jamiedarlow3625]

Hi Go For The Win, I've just used a regular bottle cage and fed some zip ties through it. I ran a short section of gear outer inside vertically down the cage though, to give the zip ties something to feed around. Also, there's a rubbery bit of old light mount under the bottle cage to give it some grip.

[@thim8009]

He should be a genius to match a 34 fork with an x2 shock

[@chadrides914]

Thim can you explain what you mean by this?

[@krislimmer6532]

Why did you take out the spacer limiter and only put in one reducer? The limiter area is bigger than a reducer

[@Ridegucci]

mate this guy knows his physics

[@Psyplus]

Jorah has recovered well from the greyscale

[@clubdredd1337]

This is some info right here!!!

[@jozefvladovic7949]

nice man...it was so clear

[@collinmcballin]

WOW EXCELLENT VIDEO

[@patryka11]

I have one question, please help me guys. I have recommended setting for example 16 click but from what? From fully open which is from left to right? Or otherwise?

[@MBRmagazine]

Always from full closed, which is fully clockwise.

[@patryka11]

MBR magazine both shock and fork? Start from fully right and then turn the click left?

[@tonykasunic1]

This guy is my hero

[@John_D2]

I wish they had a mojo in the states..

[@taylorperdue7376]

what's the weight for the bike itself?

[@Antweak83]

Would set up be the same for dpx2?

[@equi]

i love this guy

[@hdgjkag]

Great thank you 🤙

[@coreymclernon]

So awesome. Master Jedi.

[@runstokesrun]

Genuine question, why is tyre pressure never worked in to the suspension equation? Surely a tyre with more psi will have an impact, especially on rebound?

[@MBRmagazine]

You're right, it's an absolutely critical part of the equation and needs to be considered as part of the system. And it's not just as simple as pressure: It will depend on the tyre casing, volume, rim width, rider weight, riding style, terrain etc, etc. Very much a huge topic on its own, yet also interwoven with suspension set-up.

[@timquain5341]

Wow! I didn't know Jorah Mormont knew so much about suspension!!!

[@theRhinsRanger]

Well put information

[@tomt5386]

Asking why you would want your front end to ride "higher" while climbing is a bit of a misunderstanding of terms I would think. All it does it to keep the bike from diving in situations where you literally do not need much suspension. I would agree with him. I run full open all the time....but I can understand where a bigger out of the saddle climber may need that "dive protection switch" when climbing.....

[@bigkiv47]

You've never owned a Cane Creek Coil have you...... Complicated?

[@Bonky-wonky]

I have a CCDB, fairly straight forward to set up if you ask me. Just get to understand what the knobs are doing first, then get a good middle setting. Fine tune when riding a familiar track: right amount of lsc so the bike is balanced when cornering and pumping, ride some rocks/roots and see if there's any harshness, meaning the hsc is too heavy, see if it does follow the terrain nicely, if not back down the lsr a bit. Do some lippy jumps and see if the bike's either too bucky (too little hsr) or feels lethargic (slightly too much hsc) then pedal for a bit and feel if the bike's bobbing around too much (too little lsr). And don't be put off by the number of clicks, really wide range but this can be narrowed down quite a bit to a useable range of about 7-8 clicks, everything outside that are bs settings that you can easily identify as such if you know how a bike should feel.

[@raupenimmersatt6906]

BIGKEV 61 The Fox has the same adjustments .... its not hard- go with the suggestes base setup and work from there

[@obi-wankenobi9871]

I got the CCDB coil cs. Is it just me or is it hard to fuck this shocks setting up?

[@NMgravel]

Super video

[@LS4830]

Amazing 😳

[@TapsaTre]

Good stuff!

[@stefanoskam3578]

thank*s for that useful lnformations!!!

[@FelipeAF_YT]

It proper to compress the shox with the pump screwed??

[@MBRmagazine]

He's just charging the negative chamber, so it's fine. When setting sag, you can also just unscrew the pump so that it disengages from the valve core, but leave it attached to the shock to save time.