THESE AMAZING YU-GI-OH! CARDS... were actually terrible.

[@Swagkage]

the sea monster of theseus "best monster of 2017" meme is so great. like, it would have been a stupid card to hype up THAT dramatically no matter what year it was, but 2017 specifically is just like... like let's just go through a list of some other monsters that came out that year. •Aleister the Invoker •Ash Blossom •Astrograph Sorcerer •Bagooska •Borreload Dragon •Darkwurm •Destrudo •Firewall Dragon •Masterpeace •Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio •SPYRAL Double Helix •SPYRAL Sleeper •Starving Venom (the banned one / the FTK one) •VFD •the ENTIRE ZOODIAC ARCHETYPE and, also, a bunch of cards that aged well like •all the lyriluscs (including the bird up ones AND the ftk fusion one) •all the Gouki monsters •a bunch of lunalight monsters (kaleido chick etc.) (and i guess trickstars were okay too) this was one of the most insane years in the history of the game in terms of its card catalog and konami decided "hmmmmmmmm... this vanilla instant fusion target......... this is the peak power level of the game. because it's a tuner. after all, needlefiber's gonna come out in the ocg this year. also we will not be releasing needlefiber for 3 more years"

[@george2991]

subterror fiendess too. That deck is STILL fucking playable lol

[@secretlyaslug2325]

I'll never get over how true draco somehow came out the set after zoos. I swear I remember master piece being almost instantly banned before zoos got their like +7 combo that broke the game before link monsters.

[@scarletterose1303]

Hey, now it's a Ready Fusion target too lmao

[@Exisist5151]

Aleister came out in 2017? Really? That feels so not long ago and aleister has been, at least in my head, the most recognizable spellcaster for the longest time.

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

Decode Talker Linkuriboh Link Spider Tornado Dragon Set Rotation

[@idontknowidontcare6367]

"mystrune is terrible" aged like milk in the sahara

[@simonlawrenson6972]

Was looking for this comment lmao

[@mdhutch2002]

In Joseph's defense, you have to be a horrible person to build a good pure Runic deck. Most people don't think of playing war crimes turbo. Runic is also good in Spright, but those hadn't come out yet.

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

It is terrible. On Master Duel it works because it's a best of 1 and thus you can't side in backrow hate, everybody is a moron and doesn't try to take advantage of the weaknesses of the the deck, and Maxx C simply exists.

[@phstingray205]

@@joanaguayoplanell4912 I’m sorry for not drawing exactly cosmic cyclone

[@ironblaster_8838]

@@phstingray205 Ok guys, but how are you not prepared for Runick Fountain at this point?

[@squidge477]

BA and PK just will never die. They will be tier 2 until the end of time I swear. The last Beatrice pass will occur on the heat death of the universe

[@TheMightofDab]

BA and PK are the spiritual successors to Lightsworn lets be real

[@drunkennephilim2995]

"Beatrice pass" will be competing with "Normal summon Aliester" for that one.

[@baconsir1159]

@@drunkennephilim2995 Now all we need is the Synchro version

[@createrz8433]

@@baconsir1159 summoning baronne before 5 summons

[@REDDAWNproject]

@@baconsir1159 moye

[@GiantSkyhawk]

To be fair to Scrap Raptor, it actually did break Dinosaur. It had a ton of representation and top finishes at remote duel events over the time period that it was legal and only stopped being playable because Misc went to 1. Definitely not the generic powerhouse card that people expected though, didn't do anything for Orcust builds or for pure Scrap because of how fragile it is.

[@lilsunny7399]

yeah i still own and ocasionally play at locals a full powered (minus 2 misc) dino deck and with a good hand i can end on savage, UCT and Appol at the very least. Also i feel MBT's pain, i dropped £30 on a used Chimera from a local chick. then it got a gold rare reprint.

[@weckar]

Main issue Orcust ran into playing it was sequencing. It competes for the normal summon way too much with Girsu (while recycler doesn't). If it could be reliably brought to field without a normal summon it would probably work - but then the same would probably apply to recycler directly as well.

[@frankunodostres473]

yes even though it didn't have an immediate impact, mbt's "awful card" is probably the worst take in this video. the card does so many things on its own. plus it was common, one of konami's best rarity decisions in years! it deserves praise

[@polocatfan]

he put scrap raptor on this list???

[@MBTYuGiOh]

I think I'd argue if it BROKE it or not - Dino was good before, and it was good after, and there wasn't even really a consensus about if you should play Raptor or how many or to what end (combo or just more Ovi-likes). It was a FINE card in a deck that was already crazy.

[@Majoraspersona]

I want to see the reverse of this, looking back on cards or archetypes that people thought would be terrible that turned out to be good. Remember when the Adventurer cards were first revealed?

[@Rairiky]

I'd note though,as a pure deck it sucks ass and only with aquamancer you can actually use it as an engine

[@Majoraspersona]

@@Rairiky There were some rumblings about using it as an engine but the idea didn't really become popular until it started topping in the OCG.

[@TheKABE09]

Joseph himself said both Eldlich and Sky Striker were going to be bad

[@ab2aasd]

Salamanaverage, the famous Adamidcipator Cimoment, Eldlich was slept on iirc because it didnt facilitate other Zombie cards

[@Local_stranger889]

Does Neo spacian aqua dolphin count?

[@killerfox9674]

The title describes most Ten minute Testing. First you see the intro and you laugh than you see the Decklist and you cry.

[@default0118]

Lmao

[@Rrod810]

Love to see it

[@DragoLucifer260]

Mbt will not rest until no archetype remains that likes him outside HERO and trap decks

[@mellowhero3520]

@@DragoLucifer260 Joke's on him, his Dinomorphia deck inspired me to make a Dinomorphia HERO deck. I sure did say "why not both?" And it sure is his fault.

[@liamh.2508]

Found the ghostric player

[@Marqrk]

Girsu was just a victim of the ban list It banned the best targets and he was just kind of left to twiddle his thumbs as people tried and fail to make a new combo with him out of copium

[@TheVictor126]

konami really hates orcust after what it did

[@strangevol5264]

@@TheVictor126 Harp Horror's at 1 in MD...

[@TheVictor126]

@@strangevol5264 still neutered with girsu and galatea at 1, and knightmare mermaid banned not even counting that md is not an official format, where harp is straight up banned

[@13thKingMu]

@@strangevol5264 tbf in that format where drytron herald,zoo-tri, bird lock down,rhongobongo turbo and destruction blade lock down existed. Now swordsoul are a thing but it doesn't change those thing can still go their combo multiple negation as long they got ok starting hand so orcust is rouge at best in MD

[@Ms666slayer]

I bought 3 copies at 10 each for the case if Harp Horror gets unbanned, even if the deck doesn't do anything, because the ype i'm sure i can sell those secret rare for like 40 USD before the hype dies down.

[@solarifle]

Crazy how there was a time where Girsu was far and beyond the most expensive card out of ETCO while Accesscode was like....a super cheap card until people pointed out that it was actually bonkers. I had to wait months for Girsu to go down to a more reasonable price point so I could go lose to infernoble players with mekk-knight.

[@A11sopp]

To be fair to Lamia D/D was absolutely the best deck for the two weeks before Zoo came out and nobody sensible ever thought that the structure deck support was going to help the deck stay relevant past that. (Also in the OCG where the deck was released at a reasonable time it dominated an entire nationals format).

[@weberman173]

i am STILL mad at konami for that. i love DDD from their very concept(and still play it today) and it was so infuriating to realize that the SD came out litteraly WEEKS before zoodiac would just start dominating EVERYTHING. It is even more infuriating if you realize that the Megatins of that year had DDD Ghenghis and Alexander as promo cards. And that the first introduction to DDD in the TCG was a terrible 2 player "deck" that has a fucking DDD DRAGON!!!!! as the boss monster.....

[@vgmaster02]

@@weberman173 Even more frustrating is that the deck was originally meant to release that July right before the tins came out, but Konami instead decided to release the absolute garbage Felgrand revival structure deck because "hurr durr gotta support Blue-Eyes more", despite the fact that between the tin promos and all the D/D/D imports we've been getting around that time for however many sets in a row, they just sat on the structure deck until it was way too late and then Zoodiac completely shat all over it. Once again...eff Konami.

[@Lorens4444]

2024: Nightmare Throne is here. XD

[@aksshaggy2100]

I just remembered a good one, remember when people bough Engraver of the Mark to main deck against Crossout Designator? Then both cards crashed and burned.

[@zenbozic6184]

hilarious how you laughed at the guy talking about albaz and then proceeded to call runick bad

[@bananatron6930]

Dragoon was the best thing a lot of decks could reliably do, and it could be done _very_ reliably. He felt like a gatekeeper on the format, locking out a bunch of rogue decks, and being so obviously the best play in others that it just made things less fun for both players. He sure didn’t substantially shake up the meta… but I do feel like the only reason he’s not still seeing play as at least a backup option is because DPE stole his place.

[@rayronnyd4659]

Exactly. Dragoon is an insanely strong card. And could win you games by itself similar to UCT. It just got creeped. As all cards do. The garnets for DPE are better because they can special summon a monster you draw and more importantly: Draw you two cards. That and How hard DPE is to get rid of made him the better pick. Plus the red eyes fusion sucks. Where as the fusion to make DPE is way better.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

@@rayronnyd4659 People seem to think that Dragoon wasn't played in the TCG because it wasn't that good and that people were overhyping it for no reason. In reality, people were hyping it because in the OCG it was played in pretty much every deck, and in the TCG it's still good, but the fusion card means you can only summon it then pass, which is boring.

[@squiiddpope7679]

Magic muskets gives the great dopamine hit when your able to interact at the perfect time to stop whatever big play your opponent is working toward with your hard once a turns but also made you want to crawl in a hole whenever you opened up with all spells and traps and no monster or way to tutor up one

[@zacharycannaday6075]

Love magical musketeers, but 5 monsters no spells/traps is cruel and unusual punishment

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

or even worse, you DO get some monsters but your opponent just happened to open Sphere Mode, Super Poly, Dark Hole, etc. and now you have to watch them combo for free.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

Somehow Doc is the only card locked to my hand in that deck. And I was playing it before Maxx. I would have killed for even just a Kidbrave, but NOPE. I had to put down the deck for a reason.

[@strangevol5264]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047Try it with Fiendsmith.

[@ThePencilWizard]

Golden Apples was used in Duel Links because it gained you back LP to trigger skills (destiny draw) as well as you get the token that essentially would wave away the battle phase until they got something bigger if they attacked with their strongest monster first, but eventually just phased out from play because it was an SR in a box that became increasingly more garbage even with the card still being as good as it has ever been cause the battle phase still matters to some decks. Scrap raptor also did break at least dinosaurs open even if they only became middling, and anyone that's played against them in Master Duel where they can end on a few enough negates and the conductor by the time their turn ends can attest to it.

[@arthurespinoza5268]

Unchained was heavily hyped up with people saying that with true draco it will become a tier meta thread. When it finally released people noticed that it wasn't good enough.

[@spi231]

This is some fine year old milk

[@Deathmare235]

@@spi231not really, the original unchained wasn’t that good

[@felixdaniels37]

4:19 "This card is mid at best" Didn't stop you from shoehorning that cancer into every deck you could think of. Yes, I'm still mad at the Kuriboh Ten Minute Testing, how could you tell?

[@ShadowHazy]

Although DPE now is more dormant, this card is still pretty hard to deal with if you don’t play a meta deck. Even metas will have a hard time deal with this if they are in a late game and exhaust all their resources.

[@fireblaze16]

I swear people forget that dragoon lost usage because there's dpe in the format. DPE is less punishing with the garnets you're using, bruh hard activating FD after a combo can be more effective than using verte. not to mention scythe is still alive, what would you use, a untargetable omni negate or a setup that prevents your opponent from making a comeback even if they draw DRNM and droplet

[@alonsoarana5307]

@@fireblaze16 not to mention with the Albaz structure deck, Dragoon will return

[@Zachpi]

I mean... Mid for kuribohs is pretty good

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@alonsoarana5307 This one aged poorly

[@aksshaggy2100]

Hey, Wattkinetic was a solid Hand Trap pick for early Mekk Knights and it had it's uses in U Link Meta during Master Rule 4, just move some monsters around and you could technically interrupt combos and set yourself up with Mekk Knight, then we got better at deck building, got a Link 2 and MR5 came around and we just dropped it for better hand traps.

[@frankwest5388]

Here's another video idea: "Cards that define META but somehow never get banned" And yes, this is just another time for me to complain about Halqifiberax. Seriously, Halq was tier 0 during 2020 for like half a year and still a center piece in like 1/3 of tournament toppers and still has 4 cards on the list, just so that it wouldn't be tier 0 again. Only reason why people don't call it a tier 0 strategy, was because they called Adamancipator and Eldlitch the deck, despite both being mostly Halq turbo. Fu''k this card

[@unpopularweeb8535]

I'd say Predaplant Verte Anaconda, but the OCG just banned it recently.

[@granmastersword]

oh, you in for a treat if its banning in the OCG due to Splight is a possible sign of things to come

[@kurodox8063]

Well this comment aged pretty well eh?

[@frankwest5388]

@@kurodox8063 Finally. Am I right? Even if it ruins my suggestion, it makes me happy and if you let me rant about it one last time. Halq was the C19 of Yugioh. It took over spread, every where, dumb people thought it was not that big a deal, despite ruining tournaments by just existing. After a year it was still massive and around, even if people started to just accept that it would exist forever and we’d have to deal with this horrible new world and the timing is even better if you directly compare the two. It got ported to the TCG in early spring 2020, just like how COVID started to lock everything down. It was a problem for over 2 years until in early 2022 it started to seriously halt, just like when Halq got limited and now, when we all agree that COVID is no longer a major issue (I know people are still getting sick of it and will forever but for the most part society has lived pass it) Halq is banned, breaking the curse.

[@Deathmare235]

@@kurodox8063tbf if it was allowed for like 5 years then I’d say it counts

[@therebelliousaxel8535]

@13:54 That take aged like damn milk. Thanks Albaz Strike Structure Deck.

[@ogeid772]

I remember when people kept saying "If we ever get ROTA at 2, Noble Knights will be playable" so Konami gave us ROTA at 2, and the deck was still penis bad, so people started saying "If we ever get ROTA at 3, Noble Knights will be playable" so Konami, once again listened and gave us ROTA at 3, and once again, the deck was still penis... ROTA ended up being abused by Satellarknights and Nekroz untill Konami realized Noble Knights would never be playable and fixed the mistake putting ROTA back at 1, where it belongs

[@zacharycannaday6075]

Archtype ROTA for noble knights absolutely pog though

[@drunkennephilim2995]

The only time ROTA ever moved off the banlist entirely and its cause Konami was huffing massive amounts of copium trying to sell players £50 Noble knight starter decks in an ugly platinum secret rare. The saddest part: it actually worked

[@Rairiky]

Amazingly,their 2 last waves were incredibly good the deck is just too hard to play pure and poor infernoble lasted a format tier 1 before their enablers were banned lol I'm convinced both versions are just waiting the right pilot though,Isolde and Charles are just too stupid of cards to not be broken somehow

[@qty1315]

Remember when people said that Two Tales would make the deck overpowered?

[@Cloudchaser_K]

Dragoon is a very interesting case Just use non targeting non destruction removal to out it while dealing with the negate and doing your plays... not hard for basically any meta deck. But a lot of off meta decks seriously struggle with that, and because it's so much easier to put on the board in every deck than it is to get rid of, it destroys people in casual play.

[@george2991]

dragoon is like HFD in that regard. Doesn't matter against meta all that much, gatekeeps anything rogue and below. The level of protection it has is either gamewinning (if you can't out it), or just a worse solemn judgment on legs (if you can). There is no in between. I hate the card for that reason

[@QuasarYGO]

The Harpie Lady batch from 2013. I remember when people said this is End Phase. Hysteric Sign is amazing putting the End Phase effect aside.

[@Yunglex313]

If Konami would give us something worth going into with our god damn plus +3, we'd be a little more meta relevant. 9 years later and no Rank 7 Harpie (the other Rank 7 cards are mid at best), no Harpie Lady Sisters retrain with several cards that basically want you to play a garnet, and then the best Wing Beast Monster that wind decks can go into gets banned (not arguing that it wasn't deserved, I guess, but a lot of Wind deck players cried after ban list). I feel like I'm playing a read headed step child deck.

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

@@Yunglex313 Frankly I feel like they could have banned Barrier Statue and kept Simorgh legal. Maybe

[@tyranitararmaldo]

Hey I topped a regionals with that shit xD

[@DrDrao]

Harpies would have been a tiered meta threat if they were released a set prior.

[@MoskalMedia]

@@Yunglex313 I've been playing a Harpie deck in Master Duel and working towards a Harpie deck in the TCG. I swear, they are so close to being meta. All the potential is there. Cyber Slash Harpie Lady is extremely powerful, the swarming capabilities are insane with Channeler/Oracle, the hand power is insane with Hysteric Sign, Harpist, and Perfurmer, etc. If Harpie Lady Sisters gets a retrain, and maybe a Rank 7 Harpie's Pet Dragon style monster, it could be meta. It feels like we just need 1-2 more cards and then we'd finally break through.

[@lordvaust5830]

Ogdoadic is one of my favorite decks. I missed the “hype” period around them so I found the deck when it was just good. I learned how to play them very quickly and they’ve been my number 1 casual deck ever since.

[@Rairiky]

I cannot wait to see what TCG players do with the new reptile support,in the ocg is too hard with maxxc but without it I've see crazy stuff

[@rd9669]

@@Rairiky I just want my snake deck to be rouge without needing 2 archetypes glued to it

[@adragonssoul5200]

Tbf I have always been experimenting with the Deck and like...I use a couple Reptiliannes (which might as well be Ogdoadics lul) and the Deck essentially pure is incredibly decent and an interesting rogue option. The issue? Tearlaments is just a really good counter because everything sends, triggering Tears, and Aron handripping a Tear is just pain. Oh yeah did I mention because Tear is Tier 1 that everyone is using Grave hate? Just adds salt into the wound. It can't find its place in the meta right now sadly.

[@nooodisaster]

Myserune/Runic topping everywhere... you love to see it😁

[@cyberdoga5728]

I would say regarding Red eyes dark dragoon that it is half correct if you also include the OCG format because to put it lightly Dragoon warped the OCG format so hard that despite it being nostalgia bait it got banned after 2 banlists.

[@TheHuma797]

Honestly even in TCG while it wasn't as format warping as in OCG almost every deck ran Anaconda just to summon it Like if a card that needs you to play 3 garnets still saw that much meta play I'm not sure if it fair to call a flop really, cause at the very least it lived to a bit of its hype

[@Lobohobo]

@@TheHuma797 The thing is though, that it was not played (to this day I think?) in a lot of higher tiered decks. Anaconda + Dragoon pretty much ruined less meta oriented play for a while, because it was so easy to summon, every deck played it if they had the space + 2 monsters at the end of the turn and was very oppressive vs decks that arent tiered, but most competent decklist could play through it and the highest tier of play didn't play it in every deck like people predicted it. The only high tier deck that played it in a lot of lists was Drytron IIRC. So while I still think the card was unhealthy combined with Anaconda (when is this card finally gonna get banned zzzzz), it was way better in the OCG due to their banlist and format in general and a bit overhyped in the TCG for sure.

[@therealHLY]

dragoon is, on its own, fine. dragoon just happened to be the best target for Verte at the time, and Verte is the actual issue. which is also why, as soon as the meta shifted slightly and we got another good fusion monster, Dragoon got dropped from everything and DPE took its place. grass snake just says asspull your best fusion monster, and the ability to turn any 2 spare monsters into dragoon is what made dragoon meta-viable, but thats less dragoon itself and more verte

[@kashtira]

OCG had Dragoon for three formats before Zeus (making Dingirsu the best out for it and Dragoon Orcust the best deck for those formats). I think it was only a couple of months after Dragoon that Zeus came out in the TCG.

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

Dragoon warped the TCG by raising the floor of competitive viability. There were decks that could fight things like Tri Bridge or Lyr, but had issues with the giant moron that was Dragoon. So ya, it didn't warp the top tier, it just royally fucked up all the rogue decks

[@DarkdustDragon]

The sad bit about D/D/D is it got screwed over by the production disaster or ARC-V where Reiji had to sit on the sidelines for months at a time. He really was done dirty.

[@TheKABE09]

Remember when for any reason, people thought that Mermail was about to be the best MR5 deck and the prices skyrocketed?

[@metalmariomega]

It still saddens me how "okay" Magical Muskets is(when a LInk 1 that can plus enough to match an established board with a set of in-archetype cards of your choice is not enough to be broken you know you're in trouble), though it's also hilarious that it looks to be the type of thing that could potentially sit really well in most of the Tactical Masters archetypes, probably by sheer coincidence.

[@imaxchau7706]

11:12 "if they ever bring harp horror off the banlist this card is gonna be insane" I nominate this for part 2 of this video

[@MomirViggwilv]

"This tweet is from the future. [Runik] is still bad" lol. lmao.

[@prodmoira]

Right lol couldn't of been more wrong. Not like I blame them though they didn't realize it wasn't a mill deck at the time

[@RamixTheRed]

​@@prodmoira People keep saying this but fail to realize that "oh the mill part isnt the problem lol" is also just straight up wrong, Runick doesn't need to mill you for 40, it only need to mill you for your one copy of a limited playmaker and the game is effectively over, I knew even from the TMT that this deck would be unbearable to play against

[@Lorens4444]

What people didn't realize is the fact that you can't activate cards that mill your opponent if the number of cards in his deck is smaller than the amount you would need to mill. The closer you are to winning, the fewer cards you can activate. XD

[@ogeid772]

Supply Squad was a card that people claimed to be "the end of yugioh as we know" when it was first revealed. It the proceeded to get basically zero tops and see zero play, except for some Fire King decks, that were already pretty unplayable to begin with

[@JamFlexx]

ooh I played that in casual pure scraps back in the day. good draw power on both turns

[@drunkennephilim2995]

That hype, paired with the Yang zing reveal. I remember people losing their mind at it saying theyre gonna be broken when all they ever were was ok at best

[@Grayewick]

>Albaz = doesn't see play oh no no no. What's funny is that even before the SD came out a lot of people shat on the Albaz cards and Despia in extension for how "bad" they are, but people were splashing Albaz and a Fusion target for him on Dragon Link, or any deck that utilizes Hieratic Seal of the Heavenly Spheres as a target for an additional interruption.

[@thatwackycardgame5655]

Mysterune can work with the upcoming Splights as any of the spells can summon a level 2 monster. Mysterunes also work very well with Muskets. Generally you just play defensive until your opponent decks out. It can have potential. Drawing into more usable spell/traps/handtraps with the field spell is kind of hot.

[@MonteScarf]

"Ogdoadics will be sleeper good for a decade" I'm sure some people said the same thing about Reptilianne, and look where we are now.

[@Raminator243]

RIP Dire the editor. She has no time to touch grass even if she wanted to. Homegirl just wants to play generaider in peace

[@SeraSmiles]

I'd be surprised if Dire's spine doesn't look like a question mark after carrying like half of yugitube for so long

[@Raminator243]

@@SeraSmiles also Vlad

[@furymonger5395]

Found dires origin story m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3fPdYdth5qJpLM at 9:27

[@allenzale342]

@@furymonger5395 Ah, so that's why Dire works as if she's being lashed constantly

[@trantigone]

remember the 17 seconds where Black Luster Soldier Soldier of Chaos was the cool boss for Eldlich

[@destiny1358]

Oh sweet summerchild. these takes on runics aged like fine wine

[@HaydenX]

So...Soldier of Chaos is in an interesting place. It's pretty easy to get out there, and has its utility...mainly in being Accesscode food that can actually do stuff...including outing some difficult floaters. It sort of fulfills a similar role to Powercode Talker...only it's a bit less generic, but a bit more powerful for the effort in most situations. It's biggest issues are: 1. Not having slightly better protection or having its protection without messing around with levels; 2. It's an Earth-type, so doesn't actually fit all that well into chaos...(why isn't it either Dark or Light).

[@BigHugeWorm]

And now Dinos are starting to go hard in the paint and Scrap Raptor is a pretty good alternate combo line to the normal Oviraptor and Xeno plays.

[@shadowgallade]

“Let’s bookmark this and come back in a month” so uh, Albaz amirite

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

Layer of darkness looked super strong when it was revealed, same for gnomaterial, one of the craziest card I have ever read.

[@itachi16ful]

It’s good.

[@williammclean6594]

Yeah cards like lair of darkness and dark magician that require two or three cards and if you never see them you lose aren't that good. You need like Lair of darkness and then another card that tribute to even get advantage. They relied too much on the field spell

[@BlumenCT]

Naturia Pineapple was released in the prefect storm of Treeborn still being good and Plants getting ready to dominate. Package that hype in a world premiere secret rare and ood

[@ASecretLynn]

It's so funny to see how the community has come full circle on Crossout Designater. Started with people doompostong about how broken it was. Then people thought it was mid at best, some thought it was terrible. Then we all collectively learned that in a tier 0 format or handtrap dominated format being able to called by the grave and then still be able to use the effect of cards your running anyways on your own turn is crazy.

[@trickout42]

I actually use the link BLS in thunder dragon in Master Duel because it's easy to get the target protection. I have summoned it a few times with success, but it's mostly a tool piece for when I know my opponent only has targeted removal. But most of my extra deck is a toolbox because thunder dragon only needs the two fusions, so you got lots of room.

[@rescuerex7031]

Love how the that was wrong alert happened while he was talking about how bad Runic was gonna be

[@madsvigan2898]

I just played against a rune player on edopro, Saying how amazing the deck is. Then i flipped up anti-spell because fuck adventure, and they rage quite

[@TsuikeNovaus]

I'd like to make the argument that Lair of Darkness isn't terrible, there just aren't any cards that use it to it's fullest potential YET.

[@Pihutihutihutijay]

the problem as I see it is if you want to use lair to its full potential, you have to run a bunch of cards that are significantly worse while you don't have lair up, you end up in situations where you have either a ton ways to search lair, but no way to capitalize on it, or a hand full of expensive tribute based support with no lair in sight.

[@MeeTonToE]

My favorite example has to be the Fist of the Gadgets wave of Fire Fist support. They got a searchable counter trap, ways to loop Dragon and Tiger, and a Link-2 that isn't bad and none of it was good. I remember people pointing to the Jerome combo talking about how it's the next Salamangreat. As it turns out, the strategy is still inconsistent at best.

[@panchotz100]

CardCar D was crazy strong when it was released most decks were putting it in their deck as long as you didnt need to combo first turn you used it ( also 99% of the decks ran like 10 trap cards ) it was ridiculously strong but it fell off for obvious reasons. The only thing iit didnt do was shape the meta around it. In fact for what I can remember people thought it was week until it appeared in every deck.

[@TromboneMaster95]

Evilswarm was my first experience with overhyped cards. I played constellars at the time because it had okay matchups against rulers and not completely dogwater matchups against prophecy, but it’d body rogue decks like evilswarm

[@Herohater50]

I’m surprised Alpha, the Master of Beasts wasn’t in the twitter thread. People were hyping it up as Pankratops 2-4. It was also as expensive as Zeus on release or close to it.

[@andrejv.2834]

It was, a lot of stuff was that didn't make it in the video

[@NICOCLASH]

8:59 I realized now, Ursarctic doesn't have a normal summon, so Cardcar D was retroactively put as an actual support for Ursarctic strategy, despite not sharing the name with the archetype. What a cool demonstration of long-term card design

[@moonshinespaz8559]

Wow.....I played Ursarctic at one point late last year just bc I wanted something different and fun to play. I liked the way they played on MD so I built it IRL (STUPID cheap and Radiation is low key broken for the deck)....I never thought about Cardcar D in the deck....that's quite interesting

[@haxmode6935]

one thing to note, ancient leaf saw/sees play in pranks as a free draw two for the deck as a tech

[@TK-sn3rx]

Ancient leaf in prank-kids/adamancipators seems kind of hilarious. It’ll probably just be a brick 90% of the time, but that 10% seems almost tempting.

[@598019001]

Here from 2 years in the future, The Take about Runick was so bad we have to invent a even worse term then "Aged like Milk" Because this pile of spells will never die lmao.

[@rawbinYT]

Yeah, Ogdoadic needs work. I'm anticipating the release of DIFO with the card Noh-P.U.N.K Dia Note specifically will make PUNKs a strong splashable engine inside the deck, but that only proves the point that PUNKs are versatile enough to propel most decks it's splashed in from pnis to decent; which kinda just downplays Ogdoadic when I put it like that... I'mma keep coping that it'll get better in the future.

[@Bossybill]

Ogdoadic on its own isn’t very impressive but it definitely helped aliens and reptilians but that’s what happens when you give the reptile type a generic engine

[@MVAS-mp9oo]

POTE support is making them even more nuts, Giving a in-psychic type HOPT Pot of Greed and Synchro that can add Ghost Ogre or one of the Psychic Wheel for a quick 6 Synchro or a R3NK. And it's actually a fun combo deck. My only hard gripe with this deck is Carp Rising (the Fusion one) is horrendously fragile.

[@echoesact.3181]

Never forget Blackeyes, the Plunder Patroll Raven who was supposed to make Plunder tier 1

[@huntersnyder4358]

You’re wrong. Golden Apple wasn’t played in Duel Links because of “memory”. We all dripped it as soon as we gained enough life points to unlock Weevil Underwood.

[@Zachpi]

Wolfrayet was one of the worst cards I experimented with in vw, I have tried so much copium and even Beatrice mill destrudo and snow on your opponents turn is better than it. I remember being confused at the hype it was getting and I'm happy to be right.

[@CSCH69]

that card Was sooo bad in VW. even vermillion pass is better :/

[@kyleyuen245]

I really don't get the point of how it's supposed to work

[@Psynapseful]

@@kyleyuen245 Basically a very bad Nibiru. Every summon pumps Wolfrayet’s attack by 300, once it hits 4k attack it can use its second effect. Since it starts at 2.5k, you can use the quick effect after they summon 5 to shuffle their board back. But so many decks have anti-Nibiru lines that get a monster negate, destruction effects since Wolfrayet has no protection, etc before 5 summons that it’s completely worthless.

[@Zachpi]

@@kyleyuen245 after 5 monster effects you can spin your opponents monsters back but it has no protection and vw doesn't really put anything up to fill that purpose, so it's usually just gonna fiend a removal/negate and be overall worse than just making shenshen

[@kyleyuen245]

Thanks guys, I remember reading it and going 'that's never really gonna go off' and then I saw it played a bit. If it were even like 3 effects it might be a decent tech option in some monster heavy formats but as it is 5 is to many

[@swisschese1323]

I came from 2023 to say that Konami has decided to release an archetype that can best be described as "magical musketeer but elemental"

[@Teebs1996]

Wasn't Majespector really hyped at a point? People lost their minds at a pendulum archetype that searched quick removal that it itself was immune to, only for Unicorn and the card that searches Unicorn to be worthwhile.

[@geometrydashtzolkin1025]

Pure majespecter was still one of the best decks in late 2015 so I don't think it counts

[@TheMightofDab]

I remember people freaking out over the Danger Graceful Charity trap card when it was announced. I have never seen anyone use it. Also Trickstar Reincarnation, but it probably lived up to the hype while Trickstars were at full power.

[@strangevol5264]

It's bonkers with pure Danger, and Reincarnation is just pain.

[@danturro]

ball deodorant

[@zaneplusplus]

so true bestie

[@moonshinespaz8559]

God.....CardCar D.....i remember the format were THE BEST opening "combo" you could do was Duality for 3, set your hand, NS Cardcar D, effect to draw 2 and pass turn hoping that the cards you set were good enough to buy you time for the crackback...i remember watching videos of deck profiles and people SWEARING this card was meta defining good....for about a month at least

[@bowb5880]

Scrap raptor was actually strong on release, it allowed Dino, which was already tier 1 at the time, to become even stronger, it was only due to the July 2021 list, which was released a month after scrap raptor, where they limited misc and killed dino

[@BlackBeartic229]

I still remember people on YOUR OWN VIDEO getting on me for saying Flunder was no were close to tier 0 potential.

[@NikoAmii]

"sleeper good for a decade" sent me

[@manynukes11]

Why don't they try being awake good

[@jaernihiltheus7817]

We just need some good reptile boss monsters for ogdoadic imo. The fact that it's a strong chaos rank 4 and 8 engine with only a single rank 4 reptile and no rank 8s at all is just silly imo. Poor snakes... nowhere near as done dirty as pyros, but still done so wrong.

[@RanserSSF4]

I mean we have zer'oll as a nice ed boss, but it's tied to aliens and if you want to use it, you have to play a small alien engine. I agree we need more rank 4 reptiles and a good rank 8 reptile boss.

[@jaernihiltheus7817]

@@RanserSSF4 yeah, but it only really works as a good boss in tandem with alien kid. I'd like either an ogdoadic boss monster(s) for the extra, or a reptile-specific extra deck boss monster for them to go into. *Preferably not a link or synchro, because the only other semi-viable reptile decks (aliens and reptiliannes) are already synchro/link decks and while ogdoadic was designed as a generic reptile engine, having every halfway decent reptile deck revolve around the same two summoning methods is lame imo. So give 'em some xyz or rituals for diversity's sake (worms have fusion, they just need better cards).

[@amethonys2798]

Waiting for the drones to come in "AcKtUaLy MyStErUnE tOpPeD iN OcG". Ignoring the fact all those lists ran triple reasoning triple monster gate to mill like 10+ spells which last I checked, yep, we don't have over here.

[@42Tonyallen42]

So, maybe I'm just not that good at this game, but why is Dragoon considered mid? - You can summon it super easily via Verte (though not anymore seeing as Verte is banned) - Has good base stats - Omni-Negates - Grows in attack power as it negates I know red eyes fusion locks you out of summoning for the rest of the turn which is really bad, but still

[@Effrenatus]

The card is obviously good in a vacuum but there's just no good deck you can play it in, even when Verte was around playing 3 garnets in your deck was just not worth it for 9+ round events

[@42Tonyallen42]

@@Effrenatus Ah, gotcha, makes sense, basically its not worth the bricks you need to run it

[@Carlet_S]

barely a minute in and we see "Caspar" on screen explicitly shown for an extended amount of time, and then pronounced "Pascar"

[@EizaYgo]

8:15 The hype around lair in that time xD I remember inmediatly pre ordering 3 structures xD

[@Blueskirtt]

Do you know what actually plays Soldier of Chaos? It's like, one of your best link-3's..... in Cardians. A deck where you maybe one in every 10 games go into a non-cardian not named herald of the arc light.

[@Grayewick]

Mekk-Knights also play him.

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

i had a dream i met MBT at a college last night, where I was moving into a dorm room with and a group of people. It was weird as fuck, I brought my cat Belle and she was having a weird time

[@NexeL_NKC]

lol I like how most meta/competitive players would look at my decks, then at me like I just killed their dog and say "GET OUT, YOU HIDEOUS MISTAKE." Best way to play is casually bro. Branded of Ra and Felgrand Ra for days. I just like Ra.

[@xgaming6609]

I mean, Flunder these nuts just came too late to be really strong

[@skull666388]

Evilswarm was a trap in that format. Theoretically it was fine, Pandemic prevented s/t outs, Forbidden Dress and Safe Zone could save you from blaster. But when Dragon Ruler could side things like Electric Virus it didn’t amount to much.

[@Thekoodie]

MBT: Calls Scrap Raptor an awful card. Me, whose favorite deck is Scraps: "Uh...uh... At least he's good in... Pure Scraps? Dinos? Eheheh..."

[@TheAusar]

Not so hot take: Dragoon saw exceptional success in the OCG because maxx C and nothing else since the TCG doesn't have maxx C, it was not good.

[@sephiroth6464]

I actually do use Black Luster Soldier Soldier of Chaos in my Dark Magician Deck in Master Duel and while it doesn't see a lot of play it does work fairly well when my monsters can't use their affects or I'm trying to get to Accescode Talker

[@DaFamousLightskin]

I’ve only played in a few formats over the past 5 years, but you are so entertaining you could make videos about a topic I’m completely unfamiliar with and i’d watch. Thanks for the great entertainment 👍🏻

[@CommandingVanguard]

"Mystrune/Runick is terrible" aged fucking horribly

[@Rairiky]

Fascinating video,shows how timing can kill cards or even decks. E.g. dragoon and girsu were honest to God meta warping in the ocg Oh mysterune topped day one just to spite the... Dubious build of mbt lol

[@amethonys2798]

Mysterune is good when you can very consistently start the game with 10 spells in grave who would've known? Have fun doing that over here.

[@Jokoko2828]

In the OCG, the land of triple Reasoning and triple Monster Gate you can just draw 3 cards turn 1 while getting out either a Halq setup or random stun piece like Boarder, the TCG is super crippled in that regard.

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

@@amethonys2798 I mean I've been testing the tcg version and I've got a 80% win rate in siding matches. Branded is supposed to be tier 0.5 post structure deck yet I've beaten it more times than I've lost to it with Mysterune. Think it'll definitely be tier 2 at minimum.

[@andrejv.2834]

@@francisbartoszewski2284 where did you see that branded is supposed to be tier 0.5? Haven't heard anyone say that

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

@@andrejv.2834 I mean look at the ocg top cut representation

[@StarfieldDisarray]

Evilswarm technically did have a gameplan against Spellbooks since EEV was in the format and, being a Dark deck, pretty much any board they had was an EEV target. But the same issues of brickiness and overall limpness stopped them being any more effective against Spellbooks than literally any other Rank 4 deck slamming down Crazy Box.

[@ratoh1710]

Wolfrayet is putting in a bit of work in my Magistus Familiar-possessed deck since boosting it to 4000 ATK is incredibly easy with even the slightest setup. Although even then it is a niche option.

[@samurexatlas7373]

Oh, Ancient Leaf. I love it, since I ACTUALLY FAVOR my LP.

[@Andy_ARBS]

Oooh Elementsabers got cut? Surprising, MBT spoke a lot about them.

[@snarf1851]

I remember playing with the golden apple on ygopro around 2013-2014 and it was pretty broken in casual games.

[@alecdorste643]

I remember the evilswarm hype...my entire locals ran it for a week...I topped with frog obelisk

[@LordEgilYGO]

I remember Primathmech Alambertain was being heralded as the next broken generic rank 4 because it could theoretically be used to search any spell/trap. I never believed it because YOU NEED TO DETACH 4 MATERIALS TO SEARCH ANY SPELL/TRAP.

[@bloodarcher7841]

Great content as usual Joseph. I personally love magical musketeers as a board breaking going second deck but yeah their own boss monster Zakiel looks amazing but the investment to get his effect off isn’t worth it, though the link 1… Ny favorite one

[@Ickypumpkin]

i love how mbt talks about the ten minute testing video of mysterune that has been out for some time now and he made a dogwater build of the deck.

[@leachy_]

Naturia pineapple is sad. Imagine making an insane play with a cute pineapple I would love it.

[@tieflingsimp3579]

Funfact: RDA core combo can easily get you over 9k Life Points, so combined with allure you can theoretically run Ancient Leaf to deep draw specific floodgates or other cards in RDA

[@ChampionMarx]

Does anyone remember when Lulleby of obedience was thought to be a card that was so strong that printing it was a mistake. It then did nothing

[@TempRawr]

After switching to mtg commander you points on learning WHY card matters not just because its good. Really change my beliefs on bulding a deck and thinking about each cards goal ina deck vs yugioh engines and end boarss

[@TNobody0214]

I don't remember how prevalent this was, but I remember T.G. being hyped due to the idea of synchro from hand and the recursion the deck had being something people expected to destroy the game then it just kinda failed to do anything cause it had no real plays.

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

It WAS actually good as a stun deck when it first came out. It's the second wave of support that did not live up to the hype that turned T.G. into a combo deck

[@binchlipusfukaroniiandchee464]

I just kinda make decks by searching what I need and then discovering what fills the roles, but man, I am really happy and proud of my Sac deck. I just fetch Lair of Dankness with like 7 different cards then wait for my opponent to summon something I can disrupt, and use anything like Lilith, or Ballista Squad and end their turn. And since the tribute is part of the payment, its not counterable. I found a home for Ogdoadic, and I wanna keep them.

[@generalforsythe3944]

Ice Barriers, their players were just like: just wait til next format, they're going to be so good as they continued to tally their loses

[@leoornstein3963]

How about the opposite, cards or decks that ppl ignored on that eventually finds its way to the top table, I will give you one: Drytron.