Genuinely, I don't care about whether its mid or not, what I do care about is that the new support is designed immaculately; they actually let the deck go into its intended win condition (Ice Barriers actually being a barrier to your opponent's plays) while threatening with bosses like Trish at ANY point. That's just good card design.
@F3XT4 ай бұрын
yeah and the newer floodgates are just enough to be ok while not being frustrating, some older cards are still frustrating but imo a optimal list shouldn't main deck them, only use them in the side for some match ups, so it's not a huge problem
@Practicalinvestments3 ай бұрын
Been pumped for friday,, have had this deck *on ice* for months waiting for battles of legend,, now, it’s finally time to extinguish some fire king snake eye :)
@lancerguy36674 ай бұрын
I think my favorite thing about Ice Barriers is that they're the unholy amalgamation. A perfect marriage of everything Stun Andies hate about combo decks, and everything Combo Carls hate about stun. You wombo combo for sometimes quite a long while... to get your walking floodgates to drop on the board during your opponent's turn, then freeze them out of the game unless they have the very specific out to what you're doing. ...then if they DO out your engine... you float into a treated-as-synchro-summoned Trish and banish 3.
@PhuckedUpPhilosophy4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of one of my all time favorite decks Virtual World. Can combo for 10 minutes to end on shenshen + caliga. It can be balls to the wall synchro climbing or it can just pass with Shenshen + skill drain. Don’t even get me started on calamities .
@Greg501-4 ай бұрын
So it's the same kind of deck as HERO
@N120154 ай бұрын
@@PhuckedUpPhilosophy And don't forget the very fun dragon stun... oh wait you did mentioned it. Sometimes I forget it has an actual name.
@nguyentandung424 ай бұрын
@@PhuckedUpPhilosophyman I miss VW, I swear if they printed a new monster worth making it would actually pop off.
@PhuckedUpPhilosophy4 ай бұрын
@@nguyentandung42 what they need is a field spell that counts as a gate that places a gate from deck, gy, or banishment face up on your field. Oh and it’s actually been a very dominant rogue deck in Europe and I believe some south/Central American countries this format. It Won Spain nats.
@okita_souji_alter4 ай бұрын
Watching my opponent try to activate certain cards or attack without reading ice barrier floodgates is peak entertainment 😂
@nbassasin80924 ай бұрын
after 15 years, they are finally actually coming up who wouldve thunk it
@jarias31284 ай бұрын
I love when that happens. Fellow ice barrier player here lol
@ashikjaman19404 ай бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh players are never beating the allegations
@hypnotist12004 ай бұрын
@nbassasin8092 same w melodious divas...they were ass by themselves but now they have tutors and searchable combo pieces. Warlock and defender are crazy good but only if you can get to them via combo
@Shrimp4Gura4 ай бұрын
People attacking with a Power Bonded Cyber Twin into my def position Sphreeze: bro why'd i take damage after hitting a def monster???
@katzuma76414 ай бұрын
Legend says he’s still throwing ice cubes to THIS day!!
@ctusiard97554 ай бұрын
TBF he also got a really weird decklist.
@SuperSilver3164 ай бұрын
Agreed 🤷🏾♂️ why we aren’t going double Lancea
@BboySquidfootАй бұрын
Legend says he threw out the whole deck after.
@nekrozofmakoto1204 ай бұрын
I always and I mean always say mbts opening when he does videos. And when he did not say I'm mbt and this is 10 minute testing. I started having a mental break down
@nbassasin80924 ай бұрын
one of my favourite archetypes ever not because i think its good not because i think its bad so i wanna be different but just because i love theri artwork and they arepaired with my actual favourite archetype, Dragunities
@mateusrp19944 ай бұрын
Same, I always thought their lore and artwork was cool (heh), so I always held a soft spot for these cards.
@bonzey98954 ай бұрын
Sam dude. i have quite a bit of a soft spot for Duel Terminal archetypes/ Especially Ice Barriers and (also my favorite deck) Dragunity
@nbassasin80924 ай бұрын
@@mateusrp1994 yeah, the only sad part is they never gave us some overlspping support for them and their lores, as they did with some newer lores unless you count ice dragons prison as overlapping support lol
@nbassasin80924 ай бұрын
@@bonzey9895 Duel Terminal was when I was old enough to really be into the game (I watched anime since I was 3 and had cards but duel terminal was around my 4th-5th grade) so most decsk from that era will always have a soft spot in my heart even genex
@halodragonmaster4 ай бұрын
You've heard of Duel terminal, right?
@24kam484 ай бұрын
Imagine the icehitting the window noise playing though the ENTIRE video softly in the backgounds. Probably at some volume you wouldnt really notice unless you had headphones on.
@Solidwake4 ай бұрын
That's the extra mile of effort!
@voidlockdragon14064 ай бұрын
Ice Barrier now can easily summon their synchro boss monsters and maintain their niche of being a floodgate-esque deck with their main deck monsters. Against certain decks, they are powerful, but against others, it can struggle. The almighty D-Shifter and Kashtira cards would make this much weaker in practice, but against most other decks, it will fair pretty well.
@redroC1714 ай бұрын
8:28 "this is why we don't play Branded anymore" against the Spright deck....
@ComaDoccYT4 ай бұрын
He ain't wrong though
@patrickmunneke83484 ай бұрын
Branded is very good though
@OsirusHandle3 ай бұрын
crazy how elf alone gone is enough to make it irrelevent
@CocTheElf3 ай бұрын
@@OsirusHandle We had Spright with Ronin and Elf in MD and it was a nightmare. 7-8 interruption boards with searchable Maxx C.
@OsirusHandle3 ай бұрын
@@CocTheElf true i forgot ronin is gone. elf summon toad was nutty
@radioactiveriver67184 ай бұрын
You forgot to add Royal Knight of the Ice Barrier
@eyesoftomorrow66474 ай бұрын
Fun thing to note Georgius also locks your opponents graveyard effects while he is on the field with another ice barrier
@jisuseee4 ай бұрын
They did in fact, make them playable after X years
@VixYW4 ай бұрын
X-Saber years
@ovelhadogelo4 ай бұрын
"Whoo, nice to see Ice winning during Fire format." I hope they make Atlantean support, because the Animation Chronicles video gives me enough hope for that. We even got some Water cards, hm? Hm?
@VixYW4 ай бұрын
"Whoo, nice to see Ice winning during Fire format." Meanwhile Flamvels are crying magma tears in the corner...
@JABRIEL2514 ай бұрын
Revealer is so funny. I had a match against a Floo player and she legitimately just could not out it lol
@Ryan-tr8vs4 ай бұрын
>floo >she
@JABRIEL2514 ай бұрын
@@Ryan-tr8vs Huh?
@Raminator2434 ай бұрын
@@JABRIEL251the joke is that there aren’t very many women who play yugioh.
@JABRIEL2514 ай бұрын
@@Raminator243 Ah. Yeah....
@Mucid4 ай бұрын
Reminds me when i built ice barrier in one of the synchro events in master duel. Had revealer and hexa out and the true draco player couldn't do anything
@PiePie4534 ай бұрын
Great angle on that skit MBT, it's perfect for the energy being given
@dearickangelonej.legaspi66864 ай бұрын
As a Crusadia player yes drawing 4 is VERY good especially when you can draw into 3 ways of interrupting the opponent
@JABRIEL2514 ай бұрын
I've always had a soft spot for Ice Barrier. Glad they are finally up to snuff.
@zdelrod8294 ай бұрын
Ice Barrier is my favorite Water archetype (followed by Paleozoics), so I'm glad it's getting a TMT that it's jank very much deserves.
@colossaldonut51904 ай бұрын
The year is 2039, we play Yugioh with actual holograms and MBT is still throwing Ice Cubes out of his window.
@RPGFanboy144 ай бұрын
Honestly its just cool to me thay ice barriers are in any way playable now. I had fun with a memey wetlands deck bsck in the day but knew that they were never a good archetype. But they did have some of the best aetwork in the game imo which is why i loved them.
@JunkSync4 ай бұрын
Her pov be like: 0:01
@angelovertim23604 ай бұрын
Why do I hear wide music ?
@thehamyton47004 ай бұрын
I was about to post "Jaxel bet you to it" but I heard the intro lol
@astercat494 ай бұрын
It’s still hard to believe that Ice Barrier is not only good now (relatively speaking), but it’s actually an interesting deck. Normally I really don’t like floodgates, but the Ice Barriers are just strong enough to make it challenging for the opponent to play without being oppressive. The board it puts up is very beatable, but if they mismanage their cards they can end up with very little gas in the tank. It’s really cool to see.
@josiahtitus13774 ай бұрын
My favorite deck ATM. Beautiful synergy
@MiyaoMeow5884 ай бұрын
Any reason why we aren't playing Graydle Dragon? An offensive alternative to Crocodragon that is better at breaking boards going second and Mirror Master makes it by itself
@sjcodan4 ай бұрын
Graydle mentioned!
@SuperSilver3164 ай бұрын
Graydle is best used as a quick synchro target on the opponents turn, which the deck is not very good at, though I do think in this list there’s room for it as a Side card.
@Flame0824 ай бұрын
You could play Graydle Dragon over Aegirine probably. It might come up more often.
@chestnutmouse68234 ай бұрын
Wow Konami really went “How do we make Ice Barrier playable?” “Make a new deck!” 😂
@TheKuribandits4 ай бұрын
I’m always shocked when I see any reference to deck check in the wild because I personally view the show as a tax write off and assumed all the views were bots
@Salacavalini4 ай бұрын
I like how it doesn't even occur to MBT that a big buff birdman is probably not actually named "Gorgeous".
@hopelesswombat24124 ай бұрын
"I summon Hexa, foolish Mirror Master, summon Speaker, Synchro into Mannadium Trisukta-" "Please leave the kitchen immediately"
@lilgoatnyan4 ай бұрын
Never did I think a day would come that ice barrier is playable
@ratioed14384 ай бұрын
0:01 Bruh, why is Joseph showing us Jillian's pov?
@elin1114 ай бұрын
Holy crap someone remembers...... that floating block thing
@mtb81354 ай бұрын
To hammer the fact that ice barriers sucked, I should point that he played only 3 ice barriers from the original wave of support, which are general and warlock and medallion. So they didnt make ice barrier good, they made it from the ground up
@Weaselthebassist4 ай бұрын
The synchros are still good, but then they always were. Brionac is only not played because of the errata.
@chaotixthefox4 ай бұрын
Trishula. Medium in side. Also how many old decks that get playable after legacy support still play several OG cards without being explicitly forced to?
@Ignisvoid0014 ай бұрын
Yeah look at dragunity, only Dux and Phalanx are used between the OG's have you ever heard of Dragunity Primus Pilus, Angus or Militum? Nope. But the upcoming waves of support kept the spirit of their playability as a deck, and that's the point.
@laythena14 ай бұрын
You can play Spellbreaker for 1st turn So opponent can't use spell while she is on field. And no need to wait till warlock and 1 other ice barrier on field. Spellbreaker only need discard 1 ice barrier and revealer in gy can banished to become alternative cost.
@Ashendal4 ай бұрын
My question is why are water decks just floodgate turbo? Umi stun, Icejade, Ice Barrier. It's like that's just "the thing" konami thinks primary water decks should be.
@darkpuppetlordful4 ай бұрын
Same reason blue decks in magic are almost all counterspell stun/control. When you make one attribute have cards of a specific play style you'll end up making more of that attribute with that play style so set 1 can work with set 2. Also earth and water both are "passive" elements, water reacts and fills whatever container you keep it in, and earth remains motionless in spite of what you do to it
@Rob25120533 ай бұрын
Floodgate -> flood -> water
@AndrewBelmont-3 ай бұрын
You must be a new player that started recently. Back then we had a strong water deck called Mermail Atlanteons which were definitely NOT a stun or floodgate deck 😂
@Raminator2434 ай бұрын
I’m not sure how optimal it is, but I’ve been messing around with an Atlantean Ice Barrier list I found on an OCG forum a few months back and the combos are pretty crazy (even though everyone in the comments was just laughing at the guy). Instead of using revealer as your starter you play Deep Sea Diva (summoning Neptabyss). The lines change based on what extenders you have but the basic idea is that you dump mirror master with Spright Sprind and then do the full ice barrier combo after having resolved Minstrel and Moulinglacia.
@psy90153 ай бұрын
nahh send link to the list
@skyslasher22974 ай бұрын
Small complaint but instead of swap frog I’d use icejade vanegarine since for the same cost it’s an instant lancea
@Some._.Random._.Person4 ай бұрын
Ice barrier is its own barrier to playing
@marianofedericoberaldi87914 ай бұрын
@MBTYuGiOh Which card were you reffering at the start that's an option for Turboing Lancea? General Wayne the lv.5? I can't quite catch that
@Byrdstar6423-un3me4 ай бұрын
I guess they took the criticism to heart and made it do much better
@IoAKAIolite4 ай бұрын
The worst part of this video is when Joseph made me remember that Knack was a thing that happened
@SaHa0v04 ай бұрын
One of the only times that I wish Konami did drop the ball instead of making the stun deck competent, lmao. Nice video, though. Good showcase.
@spookat96994 ай бұрын
oh no, duel links is turning real
@m_e_nere4 ай бұрын
Don't say that. I don't want to see blue eyes become meta in the tcg as well
@autobotstarscream7654 ай бұрын
@@m_e_nerePendulum Duelist detected 🫡
@patrickmunneke83484 ай бұрын
@@m_e_nereIt was already Meta before
@garchompdude4 ай бұрын
They’re FINALLY playable thank Christ
@isthatzo77034 ай бұрын
I thinks it's very funny that this marks the second water tribe from duel terminal lore that got a recent wave of support that was playable in spright. Maybe in a couple years we'll get Nekroz of Gigantic
@fortidogi86204 ай бұрын
how do you wear electricity
@villecor87654 ай бұрын
Oh so should I trow rocks untill they make more adamancipators?
@dreamisover98132 ай бұрын
Was wondering about the archetype since new support supposedly comes to MD in the next weeks. I like the intro skits in these videos as well!
@eu4um4 ай бұрын
KNACK TWOOOOOOO KNACK TO THE FUTURE KNACK IS BACK BABY
@johnnywilson30713 ай бұрын
I'm confused what the duelist in the 2nd duel was doing? Could've either banished or attacked over the level 4 Ice Barrier with Fenrir but just leaves it there unless they were under some attack and effect activation restriction then they messed up. Tried playing this with a bit of a ghoti core with Arionpos, keef and shif and some fish extenders for some higher value plays with better followup depending on some hands you can go Arionpos instead of Coral to search keef and three draws if you open the princess alongside speaker, freezing chains, medallion or george, keef itself is an excellent disruptor and advantage generator since Arionpos doesn't care about being synchro summoned to get its search effect, the bricks it introduces are a bit of a pain and accommodating fish does eat into your non-engine quite a bit but it does give the deck options into shifter.
@steeveedragoon4 ай бұрын
I still want to make ice barriers. Not new ice barriers, not even structure deck ice barriers. I legitimately mean the original really shitty ice barriers.
@mujigant4 ай бұрын
Ok
@Ignisvoid0014 ай бұрын
The originals are very playable I have seen people using heavily Ice Barrier Spellbreaker, Prior, Gantala, Medium, Dai Sojo and even Strategist, Guards and Shock Troops.
@mujigant4 ай бұрын
@@Ignisvoid001 He's saying he wants to build a deck with only the original support, from Duel Terminal.
@shingkung39744 ай бұрын
15:57 that person is gonna be happy
@ianfarrell21823 ай бұрын
you know what MBT, i dont even LIKE or play ygo anymore, i just love your fucking banter to your editor and the way you break shit down
@DaShikuXI4 ай бұрын
One cool thing is you can go Mirror Master > Ib > Coral dragon all from the tokens he summons.
@mereel10004 ай бұрын
What a banger intro Joseph. You inspired me with that good throwing form.
@HapsterHap4 ай бұрын
If that isn’t the yubel experience idk what is. 3 garnets in the opener and a duplicate of the starter.
@skiff37144 ай бұрын
Watching MBT play decks you actually know about fills you with the same level of despair as watching the heat death of the universe
@Kurinth3 ай бұрын
my favourite deck finally gets something approaching love
@christiangarza81224 ай бұрын
Someone call Rata! He can make more Royal Knight callouts!
@aleisterleopold62294 ай бұрын
If you already sent mirror magic master to the grave, you should use Hexa to dump the level 3 anti-spell. It gets the brick out of your deck to revive with Georgius
@tehy1234 ай бұрын
Ice is nicebros we are SO back
@sonic21blast884 ай бұрын
Hey where’s the most popular ice barrier royal knight?!
@W0WlS3 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me the libromancer fire reference ? I don't understand why he would want to get rid of that floodgate I feel like it wouldn't even effect him
@Xelxa934 ай бұрын
so im presuming were not getting the spright version of this for tmt :(
@ProgPalsYGO4 ай бұрын
Ice is my favorite attribute.
@thelaserman11834 ай бұрын
Please god let Ice Barrier become good! The aesthetic is everything I've ever wanted in an Archetype, and I just want to play a deck I like!
@Sweetlesishere4 ай бұрын
Bruh that opening I thought something else was happening lmaoo nice pov
@rizreighnand64714 ай бұрын
7:02 that's just halq and linkross shenanigans
@anasbk3899Ай бұрын
please the name of simulator u play with ?
@bagodrago4 ай бұрын
If only the creator of the Duel Terminal DDM saw this 😔
@satyayana13994 ай бұрын
ice barrier have lot of good card. the only problem is that until the recent support, there virtually no card that actually tie them together as a deck. led to member of the archetype used individually in other deck instead. the other thing is that many player using them wrong way. when using ice barrier, player supposed to fill the board with em, limiting their gameplay and gradually depleting opponent resources and only synchro to push for game. common mistake player do is that they synchro summon too early, resulting in numerous removal of ice barrier floodgating eff
@Noxara4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for non-Snake Eye Noids.
@ashleymaple164 ай бұрын
Icejade synchro turns off shifter if you played ran it only hurts your opponent ruling check in judges lounge
@christiandupree39124 ай бұрын
Deck check mentioned!!!
@258thHiGuy4 ай бұрын
General Raiho my beloved
@Dropem77774 ай бұрын
I like to imagine dough playing frogs influenced this deck.
@swarrior674 ай бұрын
I don't mind the amount of effects of the Ice Barriers, it's my favorite deck I already know all the effects of the ones that exist. I'll need to add the new ones.
@Mikey-zg3uj4 ай бұрын
Sorry but what stimulator is this?
@Bob126493 ай бұрын
Edopro
@WhyPhoenix4 ай бұрын
Oof no Icejade ran Aeigirine and ice jade cradle and probably should play the reborn spell at multiples cause you are playing swap frog
@belzelgadevil8804 ай бұрын
im happy they are finally playable and it looks pretty fun too!
@Jolfgard4 ай бұрын
How many waves of support is this now? 5?
@eh3mm4 ай бұрын
Good to see the Abominable Snowman play a deck that's on theme for a change
@fujny4 ай бұрын
Don't forget swap frogs return for cost, you could return a georgius just to summon it again
@Honestwing4 ай бұрын
YESSSSSS!!!! I been waiting for this one!!!
@DaneParty4 ай бұрын
Looks like I need to get the Ice Barrier deck again and play it
@Oimfiel4 ай бұрын
0:06 Did you know: Technically all Ice Barrier Monsters are playable
@JohnOnlySpeaks4 ай бұрын
I still own the structure deck cards 😮
@vitthiuga9214 ай бұрын
Every knack reference has to be a dunkey reference
@dinosore_rs4 ай бұрын
I'm not excited to see these cards in Master Duel Why? Specifically Horus: King's Sarc pitches Mirror Magic Master which searches "Ice Barrier" (the Trap), then pitches that... which searches Catapult Turtle and FTK with Draglubion + Numeron Dragon. (People are already doing this but they need to hard draw the Ice Barrier or Catapult Turtle.) I've tried this too (on YGO Omega... can't afford the Horus cards...)
@TheSeventhChild4 ай бұрын
Finally my ice cube throwing has paid off
@larryevans33694 ай бұрын
Lol never in a million years would I think to see Joseph play Ice barrier lol
@aleisterleopold62294 ай бұрын
Chrococo dragon should be in the extra monster zone. To give more space for Lancia to summon
@TURBO1000YuGiOh2 ай бұрын
Here for Wind&Water Festival in Master Duel
@ChaosNo65SolarWind4 ай бұрын
I'm hapou with the new support, as the previous wave just lost all viability when it lost Halq. Crystron-Ice Barrier was playable, but no other variation truly was.
@AthosZ924 ай бұрын
It's insane that Seal didn't make the cut.
@josh-kickk35394 ай бұрын
Thanks Joseph! 😁👍
@kaiwen17354 ай бұрын
Tha Speaker gave me Rimuru and Ranga vibe lol
@masterchief73014 ай бұрын
Now do Ice Barrier Runick.
@johnnyhall91544 ай бұрын
Does it work with Tearlament?
@autobotstarscream7654 ай бұрын
You're thinking of Icejade and Slime.
@AustralianFlop4 ай бұрын
where the flip is the super quant support
@sime25864 ай бұрын
Finaly this was my favorite deck from the star and now people wont laugh at me for plaing it