[Guide] - In-Depth Death Knight PvP Guide - Patch 4.3 - by mbXtreme

[@mbXtreme]

depends on your playstyle and if you play arena or rated bg and what comp (all explained in the video)

[@ZaklanoCheljade]

Your videos helped me a lot with my Unholy rotation. I had so much trouble in PvP by doing low damage. After watching your videos i realized that i need to watch on which spells do i spend my runes and that lead me to eating my opponents. Thank you a lot bro. :) Subbed and liked the video :)

[@mbXtreme]

on use: attack target (claw on) on alt+use: gnaw target (claw off for energy) on shift+use: leap focus, gnaw focus (claw off for energy)

[@Atintegulsno]

Finally someone that puts some work into their videos.

[@mbXtreme]

in PvP 2h > DW and the 10% are only single target (Rune of Razorice) and it takes some time to apply it to 5 stacks

[@GenerationHollow]

Holy mother of god, thank you.

[@TheTigerYumYums]

Great job again Mario. Your videos keep impressing the hell out of me

[@mbXtreme]

if the warrior bladestorms your healer and he is in trouble (or any m8) you can grip him to take pressure away

[@mbXtreme]

hatte ich davor, (von 1 - bis 5) aber ist nicht immer optimal weil z.b. festering strike andere runen braucht als death strike ect.

[@mbate001]

Amazing guide. I wish this were the standard for all pve/pvp/class guides!

[@mbXtreme]

fixed thx

[@Warningvirusfound]

Best guide video I've seen yet. Thanks.

[@Arrathix]

the tip section at the end was extremely useful. Thanks =)

[@mbXtreme]

m8... it depends on what class you like to play (gameplay) - its not about "what is op? i'm gonna play that" - master the class you enjoy the most :)

[@staropramen478]

frost: 4x necrotics, 2 howling blast (you should save one frost rune tho) and frost strike (if you dont need to root or do something else) unholy: dots, necrotics, festering to get more death runes and spam necrotics. scourge strike when you wanna finish off a target for example when healer is in a cc chain (if you dont need to do something else)

[@gramhd8569]

Finally a good DK Guide :) What is your opinion on the new mastery frost dk? Does it makes sence to play withpout oliberate, so all your damage is magic? Does it make sence to play dw mastery ? Kepp up the good work bro!

[@mecemical]

You deserve more attention. Been following you since Wrath. I've been wanting to get back into WoW, maybe this is the boost I need. Hmm...

[@x33c]

Best guides on the internet.

[@mbXtreme]

depends if i'm in a german or an english guild ^^

[@gutogrando]

Great video MB, I learn so much from it that I actually turn my eyes to my old DK again ^^ The only thing I'm missing is how the "Regular" Frost DK benefits more from haste than mastery, since his major dmg comes from frost strikes, which increases with mastery... Can you plz clarify that for me? Btw, I know MoP is still in a beta stage, but it would be amazing if you record a video about changes for DKs on MoP! Keep up the good work! cya ^^

[@mbXtreme]

because you play mainly dot cleaves (max ae)

[@mbXtreme]

you would play masterfrost in frost presence with haste.... what else should happen? oh and you dps would be low... ofcourse... mastery increases your frost damage so why stacking haste when you do 90% frost damage?

[@Dragonblazeironfable]

Wow ridiculously detailed tyvm man...

[@mbXtreme]

an unbreakable cc combo is a comp where you cant get the cc out of dmg (stun or others)

[@mbXtreme]

Depends on your Playstyle but i think Engineering is nice for PvP

[@Corogak]

on behalf of everyone watching the video, THANK YOU!

[@nicotugz]

no wonder i am subscribed. Nice vid man. Keep up the good work

[@mbXtreme]

atleast 4.5+ ... it depends on the comp, sometimes i play with 5k+

[@mbXtreme]

Ich heiße Mario, nicht Marc... und ja, dein ghoul springt und kann stunnen, die transformation charged anstatt zu springen und kann ebenso stunnen... aber das sind halt alles sachen die man wissen sollte wenn man seinen char gelevelt hat. ebenso wird alles im guide erklärt was wichtig ist

[@lucvandermeer9674]

Best guide ever! Only met set bonus give's me runic power with chains of ice, why would i use icy touch? (I play UH dk on Apllo wow 2)

[@mbXtreme]

depends on the encounter, masterfrost is true aoe power

[@mbXtreme]

spell pen reduces the chance that your spells get resisted and theres a cap for that

[@mbXtreme]

regular frost is played with haste masterfrost is played with mastery

[@1InfinityShade]

i was saying more in reference reforging your items in the same order as reg frost but using frost press. if you hit 8.X haste you would have the same outcome but with more RP generation and more base damage. It was just a thought. Not sure if you tried it for pvp.

[@Rewolbebol]

man you make great videos thx alot :) you became my teacher from WOTLK and your still doing great job thx :)

[@mbXtreme]

depends on the encounter :P but in general = unholy = frost dw > frost 2h

[@ryanong7544]

Very useful guide man! :D

[@paradoxbliss]

as always very very well done look forward to more videos!

[@tommorton92]

super in depth guide, very nice watch! You need more subs!

[@RPlejdrup]

Nice bro :3 i have been seen you videos since your 3.3.5 Pvp guide :D

[@mbXtreme]

probably frost for burst domination

[@HeroicFox]

You're putting out some awesome stuff right now, keep it up :)

[@mbXtreme]

Warrior

[@mbXtreme]

mainly masterfrost

[@mbXtreme]

It depends on your team setup... imagine the pressure with a affli lock

[@Warfz]

gut gemacht bester dk guide bis jetzt aber kannst du mir nochmal genau sagen was der unterschied zwischen primary frost und master frost ist? der eine benutzt eher außlöschen wie ichs verstanden habe und ist eher zum bursten da oder?

[@BBriggsy90]

You bro have just helped me out soooo much thankyou ive been searching for this info for ages and ive found it cause of you THANKYOU ! ive sub and liked, just.... thankyou XD

[@mbXtreme]

both are good for aoe and single but as you say it.

[@Nemox94]

Unholy presence gives less rune downtime = more ability spam = more damage :) oh and a extra tip: if you are ever gonna do Arenas, go unholy spec ;p much more fun, challenging and much better for arenas ;p (wrote that just incase you are going to do arenas later and for other people watching this video:)

[@jp200065]

my god this is a lot of work. good job.

[@prallas]

I love the term "Master Frost" because that's exactly what it is.

[@mbXtreme]

you wanna use death coil as main ability as frost dk? fail... frost strike is the way to go... or play unholy if you like death coil that much

[@mbXtreme]

yea i just got a beta invite, maybe i should start doing some "duel my subscribers" :D

[@diansebastian23]

Nice thank you I'll keep this in mind

[@IxamusMC]

Hey MB, the Regular Frost Talent-Tree link of your DK PvP guide on your website shows the wrong Talent-Tree on WoWHead. It shows right now 0/34/7.

[@ThatGreekArchitect]

Fuckign hell, 11 years later and i learned so much from his macros.

[@mbXtreme]

then use it with ctrl

[@YouFail015]

what UI do you use ? and thanks for this verry good Guide i Love it thanks for it

[@KBibars]

Thanks :D its working awesomely for me

[@QusaiDhamshy]

Dude,your guides are The best ! I watch it all , I love your way by making video,But frost Dk NEVER use Olb in PvP(espesially arena),you should know this ! Olb is WPN DMG,witch mean armor will reduse his dmg alot,unlike if you go 4 HB > 2 Nec Strike > Frost Strike Now this real DPS Hope u test it (btw I'am talking about 4.3.4)

[@Th3Bridge]

Hey guys, looking for some advice for RBGs. I have 403 Gurth, bone-link (RF), and Eye of Unmaking (403). Would it be worth staying 2h for RBGs, or switching to DW with my 397 Hand of Morchock (And a ruthless offhand)? And if so, what trinkets of the above would be the best to use, while keeping around 4.2k+ resilience?

[@mbXtreme]

not much to record atm ;x

[@RenePedersenMusic]

Awesome dude, can you make a guide like this for Affliction warlock pvp? :)

[@mbXtreme]

search for mbXtremeUI 3.4.3

[@SuskyDweller]

Ohhh I see. Which spec has a simpler rotation? Are they similar?

[@Warningvirusfound]

I really like your UI. Care to share the Addons?

[@mbXtreme]

Wrathful Gladiator's Tabard

[@mbXtreme]

i maybe will but that means i can't share all of my videos for free use (wich i like to do) :)

[@AminD0]

Can you make a thread or something to list your keybinds of all your spells you using ?! Please!

[@Afredor000]

Very nice video !!very helpful

[@mbXtreme]

nope, why? i could use both in a different way aswell

[@ninjadude5011]

im still a little confused on the ghoul macro with all the pet attack commands. are they ment for focus target only? or your main target?

[@mbXtreme]

the frost guy? :P

[@Blackmamba568]

Hey Marc :) ich spiele im 3er MM Hunter HPALA und Ich als Unholy DK und die andern beiden waren schon auf 2,2 und wollten mir bisschen helfen und ich bin grad dabei dk erst richtig zu lernen die basics kenn ich eig schon .... wollte fragen ob du nicht nochn guid machen könntes(how to be a 2,2 Unholy dk oder so :D ) wäre super nett mach weiter so (Y) eine frage hab ich noch wenn ich meinen Ghul verwandel kann er dann ein target chargen und stun ?!

[@SalatMovies]

make some arena vids wanna see the 416 2hand in action. and you dident say whice weapon for ea spec to use, either the PVP or Deathwing normal\LFR\HC version and HC murchok or PVP 1hands

[@jeredlittle1996]

Y would you use obliterate for single target burst when: 1. it doesn't ignore armor. 2. It costs two runes. 3. It doesn't generate as much runic power as howling blast. I can see using it against a cloth target or leather, but other than that i dont see much use for it unless they are under 25% hp.

[@PreBear93]

Nice video :) Could you upload some 3v3's?

[@mbXtreme]

With kgpanels

[@Afredor000]

Thank you alot bro ! you really helped me out xD

[@HastyGames]

This is a GREAT guide! Thanks =)

[@mbXtreme]

no.... you dont play in frost presence in any spec.

[@SuskyDweller]

Hey mb! Which spec is best in terms of dps for pve?

[@mbXtreme]

m8, i gave 3 different dk playstyles - you wont do obliterate as unholy... same with master frost. dont mix em

[@thijsmartens2722]

very thanks man

[@shadow123474]

can you give some meat for us blod dks...? btw The best guide i have seen in a while

[@onsidekilrogg85]

no not all... :-) u can still share whatever it is when its jut not your main? :) or u can live stream? :-D

[@hellomate639]

I've now done UH PvP, Obliterate PvP and Masterfrost PvP. They all have their perks, but I prefer versatility, so I prefer UH.

[@mbXtreme]

when MoP is out yea

[@staropramen478]

do you use necrotics as unholy? because unholy isnt about big numbers its about making other healers fall behind in healing and panic/pop major cds. unholy is way more fun to play also because frost gets trained SO hard. with the death strike and hungerian cold nerf they are pretty much useless if you dont play triple dps or other comps where you get kill below 1 min

[@mbXtreme]

it all depends on the encounter... -.-

[@mbXtreme]

yea, i do =P mbXtremeUI 3.4.3

[@ninjadude5011]

if i was this good on my dk i would never stop playing my dk but for some reason i just cant get that good.. idk what im doing wrong. you should make a video of how you set up your keybindings

[@mbXtreme]

i dont play any class on high rating except dk, that means i cant give any tips there :D i dont even have a warlock (max lvl warlock was... 12?) :)

[@mbXtreme]

atm not, i play on a dead server, theres not even a single team above 2k rating

[@4533-j9j]

where is DW frost talents ?

[@mrgtiturbo4963]

very nice as usual bro

[@localmadhouse]

what class did you play before WOTLK?

[@IxamusMC]

What Professions are atm the best for a Rated/Random BG Frost DK? Blacksmith and engineer? Thx for reply.

[@kandeiman77797]

Love you been watching since early wrath :)

[@jackh155]

I have blood (PvE) as my other spec and don't know what to go for pvp spec? Unholy or frost? I would go both but I want to keep blood... Which spec should I pick?