The Sound Narrative: The Preservation of the Qur'an in Sunni Islam | Dr. Ali Ataie

[@tonydimera282]

I am surprised Ali A doesn't have more interesting topics as he has with Paul W because I think brother Ataie can do a lot for Muslim people because of his credentials. In my eyes, he is one of the top 5 people to learn from. Even when he talks he sounds really nice, not too soft, not harsh.

[@printmedia1422]

he is at zaituna college must be offering great lectures l.imagine....

[@barryhay8935]

He is absolutely brilliant my Allah preserve and protect. brilliant orator, on park with Omar suleman, I’m not losing concentration when listening

[@IrfanAhmad-uv4ul]

Who are other 4?

[@nurkamal]

​@@IrfanAhmad-uv4ulsyaikh hamzah yusoff is one of them

[@muhammadzulhusni5399]

@@printmedia1422kkk i’m mkkhlkkkkkkklo

[@mrtransmogrify]

IMHO if amir Uthman had stabilized the text by relying on his own memorization and reading singlehandedly it would probably been still good enough... but he took it a step further - by being consultative and forming a committee

[@darth_veda]

Sounds a lot like Constantine, the whole narrative around Usman compiling the Quran makes no sense, the claim it was never written down during revelation goes against the claims being made in the Quran itself. Take away Hadith literature and you have no basis for this claim. We need to apply Occams Razor to what we think we know about the Quran.

[@r_elyaqub8214]

Hmhm! If one wants to be knowledgeable in Islam and the Qur'an, he/she must be conversant with Arabic. It makes everything much more easier and beautiful to learn. Look at the way all this knowledge is flowing from Dr Ataie. If I can be eager to listen to, and enjoy all that he is saying in English, imagine how it would be to be learning all this in Arabic. Perfect!

[@yojan9238]

Even the Arabs nowadays don't know the Classical Arabic of the Qur'an.

[@mollykhan-w9p]

Alhamdulillah for all of the knowledge and wisdom In’Shaa’Allah and May Allah SWT bless you guide and protect you and your family always🤲❤️🤲👍☪️!

[@KaliKali-hv9bt]

No you don’t! That’s want all Muslims say. Funny you can take the shahada and become muslim but as soon as someone challenges Islam, Muslims want you to all of sudden be knowledgeable in Arabic

[@darth_veda]

You are romanticising about something that had nothing to do with the Quran. If you think the Quran can only be preserved in modern Arabic script then, you may want to review what you know about Quran and the evolution of the Arabic script. The current script is not the original script. Modern day Arabic is not the same as classical Arabic, Quranic Arabic has non Arabic words in it which indicates that Modern Arabic comes from some parts of Classic Arabic. It's not the other way round, that would make no sense.

[@ViratSharma-uv4gg]

So that you can hide all the truth behind that shit language 😂😂😂

[@a.hassan8922]

So much respect and appreciation for Dr Ataie. Alhamdulillah. May Allah protect him.

[@WilliamKelly-ou2nm]

To the happy singing souls at BSW ! WE love you all so much , to all of you who help each other spread this message, I love you so very much ❤❤❤❤!!!

[@hasakicioguz9312]

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala preserve brother Ali Ataie.

[@robertson.matters]

. S no ko ko

[@printmedia1422]

at the 50th minute the studio has intrusion as l was listening could be more , by female voices ...plz rectify and let all know..so those downloading have it as you delivered...great work..may allah reward you

[@fromriverstotheseapalestin7030]

Such a great details thank Akhi May Allah bless you and guide all of us

[@ZZ-ls5hv]

A three hour long video, yet so much knowledge could be learned from...

[@muwahh1d1]

Dr Ali Ataie should replace people like Uthman ibn Farooq in terms of fame (not to defame Uthman ibn Farooq), he’d bring much more beneficial knowledge to people.

[@SpeakTruth3]

May Allah forgive you for the ignorant statement you uttered against uthman r.a. do you know that you can lose your life talking like this. The prophet Muhammad pbuh said the angels were shy when it came to uthman r.a. make tawbah & think. THINK, think before speaking. In the name of Allah

[@SpeakTruth3]

I overlooked ibn Farooq. I'm speaking about uthman ibn affan r.a. still you shouldn't be speaking about BROTHERS period

[@UrDreamNet]

@@SpeakTruth3still you owe him an apology. Falsely accused someone then said they can lose their life. Where is your Adab. You have enough ignorance to throw threats but not enough Adab to admit you was wrong… your brother has rights over you…. Be Mindful. Is this the level of your Deen?

[@fizatulqomariah6312]

Dr Ataie Asalamualykum..always a pleasure listening to you sir ❤

[@sonerinan4259]

May Allah reward you. The lecture taught me alot

[@AragornArathorn-i5e]

Mashaa Allaah Dr Ataie, very well presented!

[@Mustaza5]

amazing lecture.. i can follow his lecture non stop. very addictive.

[@ehabwahbah]

There are 3 points to clarify Collection of Quran happen during the time of Khalefa Abu baker after the battle of alhadeeqa in alyammama after many killed who memorize Quran and the commete head by zaid and this collection stayed with um almumennen Ayisha The second point during Khalefa Othman based on the initial collection with the help of zaid they made copies send to different areas The third point Regarding abukozima alansaari ,there is a Hadith considering his testimony good for two men وروى البخاري (2807) عَنْ خَارِجَةَ بْنِ زَيْدٍ، أَنَّ زَيْدَ بْنَ ثَابِتٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، قَالَ: " نَسَخْتُ الصُّحُفَ فِي المَصَاحِفِ ، فَفَقَدْتُ آيَةً مِنْ سُورَةِ الأَحْزَابِ كُنْتُ أَسْمَعُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقْرَأُ بِهَا، فَلَمْ أَجِدْهَا إِلَّا مَعَ خُزَيْمَةَ بْنِ ثَابِتٍ الأَنْصَارِيِّ الَّذِي جَعَلَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ شَهَادَتَهُ شَهَادَةَ رَجُلَيْنِ ، وَهُوَ قَوْلُهُ: مِنَ المُؤْمِنِينَ رِجَالٌ صَدَقُوا مَا عَاهَدُوا اللَّهَ عَلَيْهِ

[@ZZ-ls5hv]

Alhamdulillah tq Dr Ali. Interesting topic

[@NaveedIbnMuhammad]

Amazing presentation! Just to note, I think the recorders of the video were listening to something else in the 52th minute mark which can be overhead in the video. Please ask the recorders of the video to refrain from this in future as it's distracting and disrespectful to the speaker, presentation and topic. JazakAllah

[@HamidSain]

some may not know.....A'zzami converted to Islam when he was a a young man in India before migrating to Saudi Arabia

[@FatoumaOmSelim]

Salem Allaikom Brother Ali. We miss you and your lectures.. I've been waiting for this topic from you for quite a long time.. Jazzak Allah Khaier for sharing Knowledge in this area where pseudoknowledge reigns !! Baraka Allah fik

[@mohammedchowdhury4989]

This brother is very good and knowledgeable more than traditional scholars. AlhamdulilAllahi rabbil aalameen. He is indirectly saying those who are giving Quran message should stick to Quran rather using it (manmade hadith) they should invite or give message using straight from Quran with references like how most Quran alone people do. They are not afraid to provide references. Someone how I feel like traditional imams are afraid to/do not give references in case we learn the Quran or get knowledge straight from the Quran, they might be called again or there is no need of them anymore. This might be one of the possible reason why they do not provide references when they give their talks.

[@lisamohammed-irvine5733]

The hadeeths are as important as the Quran, the quran tells us to take from the Quran *and* from Rasul'ullah [sallallahu alayhi wassalam]. wassalamu alaykom wa rahma'tullah wa barakatuh.

[@muhammadsharif7990]

Wonderful detailed lecture! Thank you brother Ali!

[@adnankassem8114]

Fantastic work MashaAllah. May Allah reward the Dr. This video has audio issues. For some reason the audio is only on the left speaker, and then in the middle there is some distracting background noises. The content is super beneficial, so I think it would be value added to have an audio engineer fix these issues (assuming it's possible). I am really looking forward to the second part of this presentation. I guess my biggest question is why do people give credence to these one off reports and ingore the mass transition of the Quran. Like I understand there are reports that indicate a sahabi read this way or that way, which is fine. But all the qiraat and asaneed through the sahabi don't have that reading. So it must be the case that the sahabi dropped it to conform with the uthmanic recension. This shows that the our salaf cared about this project. And for the sake of standardizing it they dropped their own personaal preferences (which they learned from the prophet). Or it means the one off report is simply not accurate. I think it would have been good to mention the Hadith about the ahruf where the property specifically mentions there are old people in my ummah. It seems like the whole concept was a concession for readers that could not master the Quran. Which is super important in the first generation while these things are being solidified. Afterwards it's not so important because you learn as a small child with someone who already mastered. But the sahabi we're adults when it was being revealed. And they needed to understand it perfectly and read it perfectly in their native tounges so they could cheive mastery and then pass it on. It is miraculous

[@shukrimoe2814]

Very important. Thank you.❤

[@omegahaddad833]

Thanks so much for your immense knowledge- Allah knows all signs and languages and hears all levels, measures of sound. The question we need to ask: what comes out of our utterances that change our lives and benefit our human brothers and sisters

[@FatoumaOmSelim]

Salem Allaikom. Please Brother, add the translation to other languages for a wider public to benefit from this knowledge and especially the Arabic language. Jazaka Allah khaier

[@Muztang010]

Love your works and manners my dear brother

[@PredzyGaming]

I would love to have this PowerPoint

[@MCCEastBay]

See video description

[@hasananyabwile3538]

One of my top scholars

[@0Rooh9]

Am interested in the lecture or lecture series about the content of the Quran by the same author by he mentioned at the end of the lecture. Would you please link me to it? jazakumuAllahu khayr

[@YourDoctor247]

Powerful words

[@kingoftheearth2149]

What i recommend is to read the writings of Bishop Clement of Alexandria in regards to his visions of Peter himself the apostle Peter and what the elder stepbrother of Jesus Christ said.

[@PhilidaFortune]

All that you are reading there are modern writings that replace your traditional Quran that has been chosen for you in 1085. Because you all know that there was no Uthman Quran... it was chopped and changed till the Abbasids came and wrote the one accepted in the 8th centiry. But they comtinued writing till there were 700 Qurans. Dr Shadi Nasser at Harvard has proven it on interviews. Especially one with Mythvision. Go and listen to Yassir Qadhi, till today you dont understand the Quran.... the HOLES ARE TOO BIG!!

[@zaybali]

what is that background noise

[@macitkarabulut]

Allah razi olsun

[@TheMellowWay]

Looking for the second lecture after this anyone have a link ?

[@MusaGuy24]

Just be clear the word colour is spelt as such…… if you speak in English your template for English is England, you can’t decide to miss spell or pronounce then claim we spell it wrong or different

[@usjtraffic]

This is so strange. Multiformic fashion ?? Are you inventing a new narrative to explain away the true origin of islam in the context that it has been found to have been copied and corrupted in its transmission ? No human beings can ensure that oral transmissions can truely be preserved in its entirety.

[@aladdinsane404]

A really easy way for you to refute oral mass transmission. The Quran is recited cover to cover every Ramadan in every mosque from memory. Simply find differences in recitations of the same qira’at across geographical locations. I mean it’s only been over 1400 years and we’re still waiting..

[@priyanka5316]

What is the point of comparing Qur'an to the Bible or to the Torah? Each of these belief systems claim one Creator (the "trinity" is not in the Bible-it is extra-Biblical Roman corruption). Each of them tell us to worship, love and serve the one Creator, and to love our fellow man. That is our common purpose, period, and if we are following that, no matter what nuances we have in our cultures that shape some of our viewpoints, that is all that matters. We should address behavior, not varying viewpoints. Does the Christian/Muslim/Jew that you meet serve the One Creator by loving his fellowan? Do we hold ourselves to that fundamental task?Then it doesn't matter whether one follows Qur'an, Bible or Torah. We have to meet on this common ground alone before we even think of lovingly discussing and sharing any other viewpoints. If one shows that he doesn't serve the Creator by showing love for his fellow man, then that person doesn't even believe the Qur'an/Bible/Torah, so these endless explanations of variations are useless even to talk about, and lead to resentment, division and even violence. Salaam/Peace/Shalom.

[@hartinggarth]

Roman Constantine corruption Catholicism? G-ds hands are perfect and for cosmological reason like Freemasonry saying every verse in Holy Bible is a brick masoned in Solomons temple in Jerusalem.

[@donnarichmond7641]

Interesting

[@speakerscornerislamicdawah3947]

Salaam. There seems to be no sound on this video .

[@rehanicu]

No sound

[@abdussalamsiddique680]

Sunni Islam-What does it mean? Islam is Islam and Shia'ism is Shia'sm.

[@Kimeikus]

Sunni Islam is the orthodox Islam.

[@Pakilla64]

Various other splinter sects have also been identifying as "Islam" (notably Shiism, Sufism and Ahmadiyya), and thus became very misleading. It's thus become important to distinguish from other sects, hence the "Sunni" label

[@Spiritman.0]

I hear voices of other people woman and children 54:00

[@sonoranherphaven1761]

Bruh me too. I was in the gym listening to this and thought I heard voices 😆

[@mollykhan-w9p]

Aameen 🤲❤️🤲👍

[@UrDreamNet]

🤣 I had to Press Pause to verify 🤣

[@Christiskingeternal]

The Quran is not beautiful. Read it fir yourself and you will see

[@Mariammazac8Mariamma]

😊

[@amalalqadeeri9736]

Is this guy sunni or shiee

[@UrDreamNet]

Are you ignorant or knowledgeable?

[@TbbBot]

Where is ingeel 😂😂😂

[@DonaldGarcia-hi2cv]

Jahoevah

[@hanonomiri]

Serat al mostaqium, is Ali ibn abi taleb..... FACT Other wise do not read sorah al fatiha... FACT

[@djv115233]

💥💥💥💙💙💙💙💙💙🇮🇱💙💙💙 Am Yisrael Chai...

[@Rohitchandail61]

Every single word is out of Quran 😂

[@jawhardawood7667]

While one admires Dr. Ali Al Taie’s erudition and scholarly way of thinking and speaking, one cannot agree with him that the Qur’an has always been multi-formic and has never been uniformic. This is simply not true. It is only in the minds of traditional scholars that it was held to have multiple forms. When it was revealed to the Prophet, it was certainly uniform. With the passage of time and the expansion of Islam, however, Muslims started disputing about almost everything, including the Quran. In order to explain away these disputes, scholars have invented the tradition of the Seven Modes of reading (حديث الأحرف السبعة). Anyone who knows the Qur’an intimately knows that it has never had multiple forms and that the variations in the reading systems can be harmonized to have one single Qur’an instead of the traditionally accepted 20 versions.

[@muwahh1d1]

There’s Mutawatir Ahadith on the 7 modes

[@Sh.addehlwi]

Fadel Solimon did a good lecture on variations. Might help you.

[@naayou99]

could be. However, Ali [the Prophet's cousin] is quoted as saying to Ibn Abbass "don't argue with them using Qu'ran, for Qur'an has multiform" (القران حمال اوجه). Now, I am not sure if Ali's use of the term is the same as Taie's.

[@ViratSharma-uv4gg]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂....... there's a gathering to talk about this non sense 😂😂😂

[@ZZ-ls5hv]

A three hour long video, yet so much knowledge could be learned from...