McCormick-Deering W-6 Engine Swap to Farmall M - Viewer Tech Question Answered!

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

You know - I never noticed the change on those side irons for the later SW6 tractors... That is why I love coming here, bud. Learn something new EVERY day.

[@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd]

Squatch, you are a LEGEND Not just for your knowledge but for taking the time to explain Think I already told you this but a fellow KZbinr Sam@ScrappyIndustries recently praised your extensive knowledge whilst he was doing an early Cat engine rebuild* Didn't end up going that well but he was so impressed with your previous tutorials *Motor grader engine swap into a Bay City dragline

[@TriciaKrueger-o9f]

I have plans to drive up the highway in the morning and back down in the afternoon in the white high profile service truck. If I see you I'll stick my hand out the window and wave. Great content! Clint

[@wilcleno1866]

I wish them all good luck with the swap out of the W-6 to the Farmall M.

[@michelbrodeur6055]

Squatch you are a font of information regarding those old McCormick-Deering's. Nice that a man your maturity is so well versed that this information can get passed on. Thanks for that and keep the videos coming.

[@geneguenther4325]

Thanks for the video Toby! Great way to clarify the differences! Can’t wait to see what comes next!

[@clydeschwartz]

Excellent video that was very informative about the 2 tractors of the same vintage

[@brycewiborg8095]

Absolutely interesting . I've never been near a W6. A buddy has a W4, and a different buddy has a W9 ( gasoline ) Thank you.

[@shaneharrison4775]

An awesome and clear reply to the man's question and even a beam or two of sunshine nearer the end sweet video.

[@kevenlonsdale5460]

We had a W-9 when I was a kid, used it mainly to pull a 6 foot offset breaking disc. We also used the belt drive for a cut off saw cutting firewood, and a grain grinder to grind corn for feed.

[@edelm6062]

It's always a pleasure to learn something. You might have a chance to use it someday.

[@seniorelectrician6831]

Excellent info! Ii is amazing how things have changed, some where along the line manufactures went from common parts across models to unique parts for only that model just to make a buck instead of making life easier for the consumer

[@RobertBrothersJr-dc7nr]

Great video Toby. I learned a lot. I hope everything with the new build is progressing well. Thanks

[@squatch253]

No construction yet, it usually takes 7-10 days after materials drop-off for the work crew to come in. We’re only 5 days post-delivery at this point 👍

[@mattdanger-ny]

Hey squatch, I have successfully wet sanded and buffed that martin seynour paint to remove orange peel. I think I did 800, 1000, 2000 then wool pad. Came out nice. Just need to be sure that you have enough paint to sand.

[@stevea9604]

A master class in how things get done by the amazing professor Squatch 👍🏻🤩🤓

[@jerrygrant3322]

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[@gerrywinzor1103]

Great quick video Seeing you drool over the forklift for the building supply delivery the other got me to thinking that a nice vintage Cat wheel loader with forks on the front would be super handy for all you projects. Not that you have any shortage of machines to work on

[@johnnymorrow63]

Its always a good day when you learn something new. Thanks for that!

[@calrob300]

I wonder which course actually makes more sense; swapping engines or freeing up the seized one. Of course, the advantage of the latter choice is keeping the original engine. In general, in restoration, originality is usually the preferred option.

[@williamsnipes7608]

To ask for further clarity. So, the drive shafts match? Spline shafts? Those are called frame rails if I'm thinking right.

[@vanislescotty]

What a wealth of knowledge. Interesting video. Thanks.

[@arthurirwin8235]

Very clear answer to a really good question!

[@kevinkeech7906]

I remember when we had our 460 we changed the motor and put in a 706 gas motor and that thing had more power than the average bear😊

[@greenmule]

Great info Squatch, thanks

[@johngibson3837]

Hey up mate you should have put in a single shot of the new shed at the end to show nothing has happened

[@ericsargent4551]

Great video. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@1crazynordlander]

My dad had both an M and a Super M. I’m not sure if I remember correctly but you can finagle the pressure plate out of an M without having to split the tractor but you can’t on a Super M because of the diameter of the pressure plate.

[@squatch253]

That’s exactly right, they increased the diameter of the clutch disc on the Super’s, which put a stop to sneaking the disc & pressure plate out without splitting the tractor 👍

[@ricklaleman6552]

Great explanation!

[@MurrayShay]

Hey Squatch love your channel & the way you do things, very picky like me lol, when do you think you will be doing the W-4? I have one I want to restore & I'm only the second owner & not real familiar with I-H tractors so anxious to see you doing yours. You & Squatch Sen keep up the good work, your going to have a nice new shed.

[@Thomasgarrick113]

Its tuesday any idea when crew is showing up to start forming the slab I'm interested to see how they use those large round concrete blocks under the post Good luck stay on top of things be there to observe

[@squatch253]

No word yet from any of the crews, but the last I heard from the Project Manager he told me that they typically start work from 7 to 10 days after the materials are delivered - but we’ve also had so much rain lately that it wouldn’t surprise me if the builders are delayed a bit 👍

[@phooesnax]

Don’t have either /any. Entertaining. I will always watch smart folks who are great at what they do:-0)

[@bryanb3194]

It's funny how the W(D)-9 is almost identical to the W-4 but scaled (way) up. Wonder if there was any Farmall "R" (9 series rowcrop) sketches back in the IH offices way back when.

[@northwoodsguy1538]

Thanks for the lesson. 😎

[@LukeLong-oi4uc]

Great content and informative. Thank you

[@rickyjessome4359]

Great video Toby

[@Pamudder]

Toby: take care of yourself in the extreme heat being forecast.

[@KStewart-th4sk]

Squatch, ever thought of acquiring a McCormick WD-9 and doing a beautiful re-build like you do, even though you focus on old Cats? I grew up on 2-Cyl.JD's, got a real soft spot for them, so i don't want to push my luck in that direction. LOL A neighbor had a WD-9 and i believe they started on GAS before switching to diesel. I never got to hear it run though, not close living neighbors, so it was always sitting in the yard when Mom and Dad went to visit in an evening or Sunday.

[@squatch253]

I shy away from the IH gas start diesels, they’re even harder to find parts for than the old Cats.

[@KStewart-th4sk]

@@squatch253 Thanks for the reply. We have a Manitoba Thresherman's Reunion and Stampede every year where they demonstrate all the old equipment. They have a huge collection. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6DGp514nr1nhK8

[@danielstickney2400]

IH was very forward thinking when it came to rearrangeable and interchangeable components, weren't they?

[@JasonSmith-vd1sz]

Another good video!

[@joeromanak8797]

Excellent explanation, as always. I know a little about a lot but you know a lot about a lot. I plugged your numbers into a wisdom algorithm and it concludes that you are at least 125 years old. It’s all good! 🥸👍👀🤔✅

[@kenhawkins1033]

As the proud owner of a 1952 W6, I would like to ask if anyone out there has ever successfully removed the rear wheels on one of these? I've tried penetrants, massive amounts of torque on a custom-made puller, and "moderate" heat, all to now avail. I gave up from fear of doing more harm than good. As far as the engine and gearbox, the thing is still a beast. I'm doing a refurb on the steering linkage, brakes, and whatever bearings I can get at. Nothing cosmetic at this point.

[@squatch253]

If you’re referring to the splined fit of the rear wheel hub on the axle, they can be a bear if they’ve never been off before - like needing the heat of Vulcan’s forge combined with the force of Thor’s hammer lol 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@johnmcbath256]

I once removed the hubs with a one hundred ton shop press

[@kenhawkins1033]

@@johnmcbath256 50 ton is the maximum I have access to. I'll go with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mindset.

[@dlange89]

Since you've compared the H to the W-4 are there any differences in the (International) I-4 apart from the tires?

[@squatch253]

Quite a few differences actually - the W-4 and O-4 are essentially the same tractor, apart from the sheet metal. But the I-4 has a different cast I-beam front axle, different rear wheel hubs, different gearing ratios as well as having 2nd and 3rd gear positions transposed in the shift pattern, a clutch brake for faster shifting, a different rear drawbar hitch, and a throttle foot pedal instead of a throttle lever. Also, the W-4 and O-4 carry the “McCormick-Deering” badge on the grille, whereas the I-4’s grille badge says “International”.

[@MADKIWI]

G'day Senior & Junior from NZ. Speaking of W6's, how rare are the WD6? Rare here and worth a bit of money in unrestored shape. Also, the WD9 are great grunty tractors, too. Did they make any bigger models than the WD9? 😊 Cheers & and I hope your eyesight has improved. 😊

[@squatch253]

Yes, the WD-6 is quite rare here too. And the WD-9 is the largest of the “W” line of tractors 👍

[@jamesheine6249]

I would like to see you do what you did to that h to the w4

[@robertasleson5856]

You are a walking encyclopedia on IH tractors and Cat equipment! You should be working at a Cat dealership.

[@ap1687]

Hey, any update on the radiator for X231?

[@neilshep50]

I was thinking the same. No pressure Toby, just asking.

[@robertmailhos8159]

Orange Peeling is a strange thing to have happen to to the nice looking paint job 😮😢

[@dougjones9493]

Toby, have you checked the Sherwin Williams paint I mentioned a couple of videos ago

[@squatch253]

Yes, and it's the same paint - but unfortunately out of production at this time. I talked to four different locations and finally got hooked up with the main mixing facility in Illinois, and they told me that the formula is still "active" meaning they haven't retired it entirely and that they may possibly make another large batch of it someday - but if I wanted to place a minimum order for 250 gallons of IH Red they'd get right on it. Needless to say, I don't need that much red paint so I'm basically still stuck with only what I still have here.

[@dougjones9493]

@@squatch253 was hoping this was a solution. Are there any Sherwin Williams paint stores in your area that could get the formula from head office and mix you up a couple of gallons

[@wagon9082]

Good video

[@twwtb]

What about getting the original engine un-stuck. Is that a good option, or does it usually mean doing a rebuild?

[@squatch253]

Typically means a full rebuild, or at the very minimum new sleeves and pistons because the rust that sticks the pistons also sticks the rings and will end up causing them to break 50% of the time if the engine was just freed up and made to run again. That sticky rust is still surrounding the rings when the engine starts back up, and as it slowly breaks up and starts to pass by the other rings you'll see a ton of wear and sometimes a binding/scoring condition that starts to ruin everything.

[@davidsmith-ee8cb]

Like to figure out how to download the tractor knowledge in that brain of your's for future generations to have.

[@johnmcbath256]

Also the governor control arm must be changed 😁

[@squatch253]

That’s the optional radiator shutter linkage that you see there on the W-4, some tractors had them and some didn’t but they all have the mounting provision for it in the front cover.

[@Jeff-sl8xz]

It'll work just fine like the engine from a w4 farmall will fit in the h farmall

[@Adventures_with_Josh]

1st haha sorry had too 😂 love the videos keep up the great work

[@jacobbuckley8232]

U doing videos on the new building?

[@squatch253]

Yes, working on another one right now 👍

[@rawbsworld6604]

👍 🤗 👨‍🎓 never to old to learn 😆 ✌️🤙

[@tomscott4723]

Does the shop smell like new paint? Haha, for how long...............

[@Mr19chuck49]

😊😊

[@vonRow]

Now if only you were that familiar with the international IDI 6.9/7.3 engines.... when-if-ever I get my shop built, I'm going to stuff one of those into an M or maybe my worn out 400. Sen it done, but nobody remembers HOW they did it. Which seems odd, as they DID it....somehow. Ahh the secrets we red-bleeders keep to ourselves.....

[@nandi123]

Does anyone have the slightest doubt about the fate of the orange peel finish? 🙂

[@robertwinton2649]

🤗❤️👍

[@aquilaaudax6033]

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[@hiluxmad]

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[@ron827]

The H is a tractor and not a show car so invest your time in something more constructive than wet sanding but I am sure your OCD will speak louder. :-) Do as you wish.

[@JoTa8389-gu9vi]

It's a family thing