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@cman-of9ul
@cman-of9ul 3 күн бұрын
Alabama isn’t being punished for having a tough SOS. They are being punished for losing to Vandy and getting destroyed by Oklahoma. Despite two bad losses, the committee still had them ranked 11 and they would’ve been in if SMU won.
@jsigur157
@jsigur157 3 күн бұрын
Ole Miss was the most deserving for the SEC schools off the list
@EB-bl6cc
@EB-bl6cc 3 күн бұрын
I would remove losing to Vandy from that list. Not an embarassing loss if you were paying attention this year. This is not your usual Vandy. Probably their best team ever. Yes they were 6-6 on the year, but they played a ton of close games, could have easily been 8-4 with a little luck. Also, unlike the terrible blowout loss to Oklahoma, the Bama Vandy game was very close. I think the Oklahoma game was way more damning. I agree w/ the other guy, Ole Miss was the most deserving of the teams left out. Objectively they had the best resume. TBH Ole Miss is probably more deserving than a team like Indiana. All Indiana did all year was beat up on the bottom half of the big 10 which is very weak (the top handful of teams in the big 10 are good, but the bottom half is abysmal), then in Indiana's one real game against Ohio State they got absolutely destroyed. They would have had 4+ losses in the SEC most likely
@jbaker7439
@jbaker7439 3 күн бұрын
@ EB-bl6cc That game was not close. Watched the whole game. It was obvious Vandy was going to win the entire time. Also. Vandy lost to Georgia State this year. An FCS level school. Also. Alabama had not lost to them in 40 years. Yes. It’s a bad bad loss. Don’t sugar coat it.
@Emperor_Fabulous
@Emperor_Fabulous 3 күн бұрын
​​@EB-bl6cc I wouldn't. They lost to Georgia State. Overtime win against VaTech. They could have easily been 4-8. But yes Oklahoma was a far worse loss.
@TheLAGopher
@TheLAGopher 3 күн бұрын
@@EB-bl6cc Indiana played two teams that finished in the top half of the B1G with winning records.Michigan 7-5 and Ohio State 10-2. They beat Michigan by 5 points. Going into this season,nobody would say that facing Ohio State,Michigan, Washington (who played the Wolverines in the CFP Championship last season) and Maryland (who finished with a winning record in the B1G East Division last season) would be a cake walk. This years Indiana playing in the 2023 B1G East Division would have likely had more losses. But we deal with wins in the here and now. The SEC agreed to the current CFP rules,and the CFP will never be an SEC invitational with half it's schools getting into the playoff.
@edjarnagin6667
@edjarnagin6667 3 күн бұрын
I think it's rich that McElroy mentions preconceived bias with Big 10 Teams but fully expects a 3 loss Alabama team to get in by using Strength Of Schedule as an reason FOR making the playoff over a 2 loss SMU team who was ranked higher than Alabama prior to the ACC Championship Game. He wants Alabama to get in because they're Alabama. That's it.
@Runwithme418
@Runwithme418 3 күн бұрын
5:47 this is a dumb argument because Bama's losses were all in conference!
@xandercrews4729
@xandercrews4729 3 күн бұрын
If they had just lost a close game to Oklahoma, they would’ve likely gotten in. However, bc they were blown out by a bad team, late in the season, they got left out.
@tsully4368
@tsully4368 3 күн бұрын
Because a tough out of conference game doesn't cumulatively take anything out of a team right?
@xandercrews4729
@xandercrews4729 3 күн бұрын
@ IDK Bama didn’t play any tough non conference games.
@tsully4368
@tsully4368 3 күн бұрын
@@xandercrews4729 - I think you missed the point. Bama played 4 currently ranked opponents and defeated 3. All in Conf. If that's wholly ignored, then why add future opponents like Notre Dame and Ohio St which Bama has scheduled in the future? Why even put a P4 opponent on future OOC schedules. Their in Conf schedule is challenging enough. Meanwhile, Texas, SMU, Indiana have defeated zero currently ranked opponents, and they're rewarded with a CFP berth.
@gregHames-u6n
@gregHames-u6n 3 күн бұрын
@@Runwithme418 It's not an argument, just a statement. I don't think Alabama has played good enough for national title, but SMU is not better. It will all play out. I believe Oregon is number 1. After that I don't know.
@joelnye6399
@joelnye6399 3 күн бұрын
There needs to be more cross conf. games amongst power 4 teams.
@davidr735
@davidr735 3 күн бұрын
That is something I have been saying as well. Then we will actually have a barometer how each conference stacks up against others.
@JoshAhlstrom
@JoshAhlstrom 3 күн бұрын
@@davidr735 smaller schools rely on playing big schools just to bring in a little extra cash for their programs, people will criticize and tell them to just deal with it but they all would like to play at least 1 game against a blue blood even if they get blown out. That being said, it only has to be 1 of the out of conference games scheduled.
@Scuba4Steve
@Scuba4Steve 3 күн бұрын
@@JoshAhlstromthey could do their money game as a spring game and televise it to get money
@IAmRelXL
@IAmRelXL 3 күн бұрын
​@@Scuba4Steveagreed, if possible
@sparkyplug788
@sparkyplug788 3 күн бұрын
@@JoshAhlstrom Yes, no more cupcakes at the end of the season.
@mac5856
@mac5856 3 күн бұрын
Bama was 9-3, SMU was 11-1 before the conference championships, didnt the committee say conference championship games didn't count against someone?
@thomasredden4263
@thomasredden4263 3 күн бұрын
I disagree with the assessment that they are punishing teams for having tougher schedules. Alabama wasn’t punished for playing a hard schedule. For one, I wouldn’t exactly call Western Kentucky and Mercer top tier opponents, plus the games they lost are to teams that barely made a bowl game, one of which has never beaten them. They aren’t being punished for losses to Ohio State and Georgia or South Carolina or Ole Miss, they lost to unranked teams that they should have beaten by 30.
@clearstar8354
@clearstar8354 3 күн бұрын
While I understand your overall point, I'm so tired of people always bashing two cupcake teams that Alabama plays like Mercer & WKU, as if all teams don't do that. Name me one team that doesn't play two cupcakes every year? Do you know the great Ohio State didn't play a SINGLE power 4 team out of conference this year? So why is Alabama's Mercer & WKU so bad compared to Ohio State's Marshall, Akron, Western Michigan?....or SMU playing Nevada and Houston Christian Huskies. I could go on.
@nathanpark1058
@nathanpark1058 3 күн бұрын
Well the combined win/loss totals of their opponents has far more wins than losses and nobody is even close to them except Georgia who Alabama beat. Everyone else's opponents either break even, average more losses, or barely got above.500.
@karofy754
@karofy754 3 күн бұрын
@@clearstar8354They play Usf, Western Kentucky, ans Mercer they played 3 cupcakes
@colbyhofferek7668
@colbyhofferek7668 3 күн бұрын
@@clearstar8354the difference between Bama and the other teams you mentioned is that Bama is the only one complaining about lack of respect for their SOS
@clearstar8354
@clearstar8354 3 күн бұрын
@@karofy754 So? Again, tell me who didn't play 3 cupcakes. I'll wait.
@cobiburnett8240
@cobiburnett8240 3 күн бұрын
SMU didn't lose to underachieving teams, neither did Indiana, or Texas. That's what it all came down to.
@kdbarbour1
@kdbarbour1 3 күн бұрын
Who did they beat
@JustN0pe3
@JustN0pe3 2 күн бұрын
Vandy actually overachieved. Not taking up for the loss.
@33corsaire
@33corsaire Күн бұрын
@@JustN0pe3 2-6 in SEC play…
@KingOfSummer
@KingOfSummer 3 күн бұрын
Solution? Go to a 16 game playoffs, use the BCS formula to rank and seed and keep the committee out of it, no byes and no auto bids…. And be done with it.
@bbd1920
@bbd1920 Күн бұрын
No byes and no auto bids! Just the top RANKED TEAMS!!!
@joshnoyes6119
@joshnoyes6119 3 күн бұрын
I think they should go back to computer rankings where all teams are judged on the same metrics with no human bias involved.
@EASTBOUNDAWG
@EASTBOUNDAWG 3 күн бұрын
The committee had SMU ranked above Alabama before the ACC championship game. No way Alabama jumps SMU with a 3 point lost
@EB-bl6cc
@EB-bl6cc 3 күн бұрын
yeah, the question is more: should SMU have been ranked above Bama/Ole Miss/South Carolina before the ACC championship? Less losses than those teams, but a much, much easier path
@derrickbutler2243
@derrickbutler2243 3 күн бұрын
@@EB-bl6cc I see what you're saying there and to me that is Alabama's best argument. Frankly, I thought South Carolina has a better argument than even Bama. That said, look at SMU for a minute - they scheduled FSU, TCU, Louisville (and Clemson if you get to ACC Championship). That looked like a solid schedule at the beginning of the year, just so happened FSU was a fraud nobody saw coming, TCU had a down year, etc (BYU was surprisingly good). And then I look at Texas schedule - not very hard either. So what I am getting at is it is incredibly difficult (and dangerous) to try to predict SoS (and it's still a subjective measurement anyway). Those great USC teams in the 2000's always had powder puff schedules minus the Notre Dame game, but they were still a great team. Beating Alabama sounded better than it actually was this year, as the brand of Nick Saban's dynasty was better than the team actually on the field this year. So I can go on and on, but hopefully my point came across
@derrickbutler2243
@derrickbutler2243 3 күн бұрын
The formula should be (quality of wins * amount of wins) - (quality of losses * amount of losses). Aka - how you lose matters as much as how you win.
@MrRondonmon
@MrRondonmon 3 күн бұрын
It was 2 loose instead of 3 dummy. SMU played Oklahoma's schedule of 11-2 Texas, a 10-2 Tenn. ALL FOUR 9-3 SEC teams, LSU 8-4 and away at Auburn what would there record be? 607 losses. You guys just want to screw over a more deserved team. Indiana should not be in , Arz. St. should not be in, Boise St. should not be in, its all BS where you sissies can be satisfied
@Joeyjojoshabbadoo
@Joeyjojoshabbadoo 3 күн бұрын
@@EB-bl6cc On what basis is it easier, because the SEC is so great? It's not. That's a myth. I mean they are, but there's no real evidence of that. It's just a belief. It's never actually proven. And the SEC did get three teams in. And the ACC would have only got one, but Clemson snuck in with an autobid and so Bama got dumped. That's how it goes. And Bama never should have got the slot over SMU under any circumstances. Clemson stole their spot. So Bama's just out, and you have to deal with it. People talk as if the SEC doesn't get at least four, or even five teams then there must be something wrong. And there wasn't anything wrong, 9-3 just wasn't good enough. The SEC is already given a heavy bias in their favor, and Bama, Ole Miss, SCe still couldn't clear the necessary bar. And so they're going bowling this year....
@mikegames3464
@mikegames3464 3 күн бұрын
What a surprise. A graduate of university of Alabama is defending Alabama. Color me surprised.
@TheMCJ2011
@TheMCJ2011 2 күн бұрын
Gumps gonna gump
@GaryLorang
@GaryLorang 3 күн бұрын
It's a 12-team field in the CFP. The best 8 teams are in. There will always be some contention about the 9th to 12th spots. That makes it fun and creates interest. A team that finishes in the top 3 of the Big 10 or SEC is almost guaranteed to make the field from those super conferences. The 4th place teams in those conferences are more in likely bubble teams and a spot in the CFP is understandably debatable. Other conferences are lucky to get two teams in the CFP. It's a national championship, not the top 6 in the Big 10 and SEC championship. I am looking forward to the games and I hope the smaller schools from outside the SEC and Big 10 conferences play well....
@adampatrick2648
@adampatrick2648 3 күн бұрын
I really hope this is the last time you talk about Alabama & SMU. Talk about beating a dead horse!
@JustN0pe3
@JustN0pe3 2 күн бұрын
As long as people keep blowing up the comments with Alabama, they'll keep talking about them. Algorithms Why does nobody get this? Don't like something? Don't watch it, talk about, or interact with it. Then it just might stop.
@timothyfrederick9591
@timothyfrederick9591 3 күн бұрын
Get rid of preseason rankings. The Sos is always going to be an advantage for certain conferences do to this. And i will give you an example. What on God's green earth has Missouri done to be ranked number 19? They have blowout losses by more than 30 squeezed by Vandy at home and needed a miracle to to beat Oklahoma at home. If they aren't ranked preseason they dont sniff a Cfp ranking. It's also silly for the folks making the rankings to say you have no ranked wins when in fact you determine those rankings. When SMU has wins on over basically 2 or 3 teams ranked just outside those rankings.
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
You get it!!
@elbertcoleman5969
@elbertcoleman5969 3 күн бұрын
Stop capping, Alabama lost bad to Oklahoma. They got it right.
@violetjames7534
@violetjames7534 3 күн бұрын
So SOS means nothing?
@thephenomkid24
@thephenomkid24 3 күн бұрын
And Vandy
@violetjames7534
@violetjames7534 3 күн бұрын
@@thephenomkid24 if you watched college football you’d know Vandy is a good team.
@ghostrider2698
@ghostrider2698 3 күн бұрын
​@@violetjames7534exactly bro VANDY was giving Texas a game lol
@Joeyjojoshabbadoo
@Joeyjojoshabbadoo 3 күн бұрын
@@violetjames7534 What if Bama had gone 8-4? 7-5? Should they still get in, on their SOS and just general all-around superiority? At what point do those considerations fade into insignificance? I think they already did when they went 9-3. They get the SEC bump, and that means if you go 10-2 you beat out SMU at 11-1. Like Tenn and UGA did. But not 9-3.
@Logan-xp8di
@Logan-xp8di 3 күн бұрын
This is the first time in over two decades where you don’t have a lot of flawed teams in the top 12. The reason is the portal and NIL. More talent being spread around not just going to Bama, Georgia and Ohio St. All the things that old traditionalist said would make CFP horrible and kill the sport actually made it the best season it has ever had.
@jfizzle
@jfizzle 3 күн бұрын
Who did Penn State and Indiana beat? Just asking.
@suncoastfishing6672
@suncoastfishing6672 3 күн бұрын
Everyone not named Ohio State or Oregon
@TheDayZCowboy90
@TheDayZCowboy90 3 күн бұрын
Did they lose to two 6-6 teams?
@vicluu4122
@vicluu4122 3 күн бұрын
Why don’t you add Texas to that conversation as their schedule is just as questionable. they didn’t beat a single ranked team, lost to backup qb this week and still got 5 seed
@sunsin1592
@sunsin1592 3 күн бұрын
Pretty much the same caliber of teams that Texas beat.
@wC5151
@wC5151 3 күн бұрын
All but 1 team in the regular season and didn’t lose to OU and Vandy my guy
@w00deey12
@w00deey12 3 күн бұрын
11:00 the seeding is perfect. An SEC team should have no problem beating a mountain west team on the road.
@johnferrone4231
@johnferrone4231 3 күн бұрын
How is the popularity contest of the preseason polls going to change if you want the best 12 teams chosen? 1. Wait until week 4 for the first CFP poll. 2. Include mandatory cross conference games in weeks 5 to 7 . 3. Eliminate conference champion games. Use regular season records only. 4. Make all teams play only 12 games 5. Make all playoff teams play , no byes
@kbrewski1
@kbrewski1 3 күн бұрын
@johnferrone4231 The first CFP ranking was about the 6th or 7th week in if I recall.
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
@@kbrewski1yeah but they calculate sos using preseason rankings so its a bias and not legit stat
@theman1412
@theman1412 3 күн бұрын
8:21, really don’t see why he brought up Texas’s schedule, but of course Greg does. (That’s totally in-conference and the team has no control over that part of the schedule. All I can say is they tried with Michigan, and…didn’t get embarrassed by 6-6 Vanderbilt and 6-6 Oklahoma)
@kevinbeck7007
@kevinbeck7007 3 күн бұрын
Exactly. All these professional analysts are either so disingenuous or just completely terrible at their jobs because every single one of them should know that teams only schedule their non-conference games and the league they play in determines the rest of the schedule. So this made up theory of... "oh teams are going to stop scheduling hard non-conference games now" is ridiculous. None of the three SEC teams with 3 losses lost a single non-conference game. All 9 losses between the three teams were from within the SEC. It's got nothing to do with non-conference schedule. And secondly , ALL teams schedule some easy non-conference games already. If you have 4 non-conference games, usually 3 of them are cake-walks and one is a decent/good opponent. Alabama's best non-conference game was Wisconsin. Otherwise we're talking Mercer, Western Kentucky and South Florida as the others. And if you think you're own conference is too hard, then cry me a river and ask to join another conference. These people are acting like Alabama got left out because of some really unnecessarily difficult non-conference loss. Gimme a break. It's ridiculous.
@violetjames7534
@violetjames7534 3 күн бұрын
Yet Ohio State got embarrassed by Michigan. Texas almost lost to Vandy and lost to Georgia twice. SMU has the second worst SOS in the country next to Indiana.
@daniellongoria7905
@daniellongoria7905 3 күн бұрын
out of curiosity does the committee account for the SEC playing 8 conf. games not 9 like most conf. and they also have the November bye week. The SEC got 3 teams in as did the Big ten What exactly is the issue. Is it that not enough SEC teams did not get in?
@JeffreyW67
@JeffreyW67 3 күн бұрын
The Big Ten got FOUR teams in: Oregon, Penn State, Ohio State, and Indiana.
@daniellongoria7905
@daniellongoria7905 3 күн бұрын
@@JeffreyW67 true
@JustN0pe3
@JustN0pe3 2 күн бұрын
Indiana played 9 conference games. How hard was their schedule compared to Georgia's 8? You can scream number of games all you want, but when the schedule is that soft, what's the point?
@fcon1350
@fcon1350 3 күн бұрын
Can we all just stop talking about Alabama? They are out, let’s move on and talk about the teams actually playing
@Scuba4Steve
@Scuba4Steve 3 күн бұрын
Nope. Alabama was so dominant for such a long time they live rent free in everyone’s heads.
@JustN0pe3
@JustN0pe3 2 күн бұрын
As long as you type "Alabama," the algorithm will see it, and you'll keep them a talking point. Good job!
@noslen1988
@noslen1988 3 күн бұрын
Bama literally scheduled 4 bums in their non conference games 😂
@KingOfSummer
@KingOfSummer 3 күн бұрын
Apparently, all you have to do is beat Georgia and it doesn’t matter anything else you do. Been hearing it all year. Bama lost to Vandy and Oklahoma and Tennessee….didnt olay in the SECCG….but I guess they have a gripe because they beat UGA at home at night by 1 score.
@kevinlachance669
@kevinlachance669 2 күн бұрын
They need reseeding after the first round so if an upset happens, you get to give the best team to play the easiest path to the championship.
@tejadasworld
@tejadasworld 3 күн бұрын
Best insight of the game! Appreciate u Mr. McElroy
@X4NR4N
@X4NR4N 3 күн бұрын
Alabama didnt schedule more difficult non conference games so the point is not valid. The Vandy game i would give a pass. Vandy is better than normal and was played a week after Georgia and week before South Carolina. The Oklahoma loss was after basically a bye week of playing Mercer
@iamjacquesbarjon
@iamjacquesbarjon 3 күн бұрын
ESPN: "Now let's throw it over to the coach who just quit the sport because he didn't like the direction that the sport was headed to talk about the first year of the expanded playoff and his old team."
@truthBtold1212
@truthBtold1212 3 күн бұрын
I think you were wrong each game matters less each week. You can have multiple losses and still have a chance for a national championship. Before the criteria was higher. You basically had to go undefeated and do it impressively. So make sense of that for me please
@Nonpeon
@Nonpeon 3 күн бұрын
The reason Alabama shouldn't be in the playoffs is that SEC teams are artificially ranked high based on opinion, so the argument can be made they beat ranked opponents.
@biofixphysicaltherapy5353
@biofixphysicaltherapy5353 3 күн бұрын
So well said and exactly right!!!!!
@pjmlegrande
@pjmlegrande 3 күн бұрын
Agree. It’s telling that two ex-PAC 12 teams are champions of the leagues they each migrated to and that historically most of the country outside the west (fans, commentators and even coaches) tended to discount the Pac 12 as not being up to the standard of football played elsewhere. It was always a crock.
@Nonpeon
@Nonpeon 3 күн бұрын
@@pjmlegrande truth
@DawgPoundStoner1252
@DawgPoundStoner1252 3 күн бұрын
Facts!!!
@fartgod6983
@fartgod6983 3 күн бұрын
Which conference has won the most titles in the last ten years?
@SamuelRochester-p2k
@SamuelRochester-p2k Күн бұрын
Greg, I love the way you present your views. It persuades me in my adjusted views. I wish more folks would talk and convince, more than yell or scream to convince you. Merry Crossmas!
@brandonew2863
@brandonew2863 3 күн бұрын
Since teams change conferences as often as I change underwear these days, reorganize college football into twelve 10 team regional conferences. Play everyone in your conference every year. Win your conference get in the playoff. Eliminate the bias and the corruption. Settle it on the field!
@ricocolons3968
@ricocolons3968 3 күн бұрын
Greg didnt want the playoffs to get expanded, then Bama didnt make it, now he wants it expanded lol
@brandon.lewis.
@brandon.lewis. 3 күн бұрын
This was the worst Bama team in probably a decade. Worry about next year and the portal. 21-3 🙃
@johntucker5994
@johntucker5994 3 күн бұрын
I am not an Alabama fan, nor an Alabama hater. But Alabama has been so good for so long that I am actually happy to see Alabama out of this year's playoffs. I think it's just a consequence of having a new coach and that other teams are better able to compete in this era of NIL. But I have no illusions and expect Alabama to be back better next year. I think your new coach is very good and needs to mold the team the way he wants. I don't expect it to take long.
@jbaker7439
@jbaker7439 3 күн бұрын
Was taking SMU the safe route? The Bama ghouls are running around. CFP better look out 😂 Alabama lost the games they needed to win. Why Play Greg? For a better position obviously. If they win they are in the 3 seed. Pretty good spot.
@lisamcclendon6986
@lisamcclendon6986 3 күн бұрын
Taking SMU over Bama was the only thing they could do with the way they set it up from the beginning. SMU isn’t at fault for Bama being out. No Bama fan thinks that.
@randyhorton752
@randyhorton752 2 күн бұрын
When you make your schedule you really don't know how strong teams will be. Take Florida State for example. Everyone thought they were going to be great again, but the sucked. So SMU's plan was to play them but it ended up being an easy win.
@garystubbs8263
@garystubbs8263 3 күн бұрын
According to SEC fans, the whole SEC is tough, but we all know it’s just 3 or 4 teams.
@bflo1000-k6y
@bflo1000-k6y 3 күн бұрын
Nah, they have 5 or 6 tough teams.
@KarenSwereski
@KarenSwereski 3 күн бұрын
None of the coaches and teams are complaining about the seeding. Its just the sports journalists and media stations.
@haveHeartlight
@haveHeartlight 3 күн бұрын
I assume that the home team in the first round only has to allow a small allotment of tickets to the visiting teams. Is that the case?
@emc_squar3479
@emc_squar3479 3 күн бұрын
No no no they've shown that it matters just as much who you lose to and how.. lost to 5-5 Oklahoma and scored 3 points.
@Beenman2210
@Beenman2210 3 күн бұрын
1) teams shouldn’t be responsible for scheduling their out of conference games 2) Alabama wasn’t kept out for out of conference games, their losses were all conference games.
@sebastienc.2257
@sebastienc.2257 2 күн бұрын
But Miami beats Florida and everyone says “Oh that’s not the same team”
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
Right!? The hypocrisy never ends
@elijahmcelroy2577
@elijahmcelroy2577 3 күн бұрын
Now that conferences are spread across the country, conference championship games need to be more central. PennState just played Oregon in Indiana and could have made it there by bus if they wanted. Oregon had to cross 2 time zones!
@theniskycap8612
@theniskycap8612 3 күн бұрын
alabama's strength of schedule was ONLY high because of their conference their out of conference opponents were G5 western kentucky and usf, fcs mercer and a 5-7 wiscosin that finished 12th in the b1g they scheduled cupcakes and had to play in the sec without a texas-style schedule, they did what indiana, smu, penn state and everyone else all did
@mnshws12
@mnshws12 3 күн бұрын
So it shows you that the SEC was a monster and scheduled top heavy. Bama played 5 top 25 teams. Ind and Penn St lost to the only top 25 team they played. Stop the weak out of Conf for Bama, SOS was 16, Indiana was 108. Be smart about what you type.
@lisamcclendon6986
@lisamcclendon6986 3 күн бұрын
Bama’s SOS was because of their conference? Yeah! 😂 Say your a Bama hater without saying your a Bama hater! Also, what is a Texas style schedule??
@theniskycap8612
@theniskycap8612 3 күн бұрын
@@mnshws12 exactly, it's why people need to stop getting on teams about scheduling weak out of conference opponents. i would have picked alabama for that last spot but the argument that indiana, penn st and others fluked their way in BECAUSE of a weak out of conference schedule is bad, they got lucky with their draw in the big ten. everyone does this stuff with the weak out of conference games, it's an epidemic in the sport that unfortunately isn't going anywhere
@poolhall9632
@poolhall9632 3 күн бұрын
But they still didn't play anyone 🤷🏼‍♂️
@dawgvet7756
@dawgvet7756 3 күн бұрын
Texas had the easiest schedule of all of the SEC teams. Their national SOS was 38, which is last of all of the SEC teams. 😂😂
@1sh1kll91
@1sh1kll91 3 күн бұрын
Bring back the BCS with zero human influence (if that’s possible). Seemed to work pretty well in the past at getting the top 4 in.
@terikathomas2131
@terikathomas2131 3 күн бұрын
I said the same thing
@kbrewski1
@kbrewski1 3 күн бұрын
Under the BCS system, it would be Oregon vs Notre Dame!
@Grae2079
@Grae2079 3 күн бұрын
@@kbrewski1every BCS rankings I see has Uga at 2 and Oregon at 1. Idk how you got notre dame and Oregon playing.
@Mountaindwell4
@Mountaindwell4 3 күн бұрын
BCS was terrible. Had a fiesta bowl one year with a top 10 versus #24
@kbrewski1
@kbrewski1 3 күн бұрын
@Grae2079 There are no more "BCS rankings". Sagarin is the most used computer ranking system and they have Notre Dame ranked #1.
@BrianSB
@BrianSB 3 күн бұрын
For Take Away #1 A team doesn’t know how good an opponent will be on a year to year basis. Take scheduling Florida State; 2023 they’re undefeated. This year they were horrible. Anyone on their schedule this year was expecting a tough match up. It’s a guessing game.
@jamessmallwood5906
@jamessmallwood5906 3 күн бұрын
Alabama got what they deserve, WKU,South Florida,Wisconsin,Mercer, and then lost three SEC teams, that leaves Five real good games, but who wants facts anymore.
@mat3o557
@mat3o557 3 күн бұрын
So you just mad cause Bama is out lol
@alex7035
@alex7035 3 күн бұрын
Who got mad
@hiltoncarroll336
@hiltoncarroll336 3 күн бұрын
No you’re just slow if you can’t understand what he’s saying it’s pretty simple
@WestBeachFLboy
@WestBeachFLboy 3 күн бұрын
Just say you hate bama and would rather have a flawed system that hurts college football just to keep them out.
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
@@WestBeachFLboythe system is fine its the committee that is hurting college football!!
@5a.m
@5a.m 2 күн бұрын
@@WestBeachFLboy no problem hating bama. They don’t deserve sh*t and deserve no sympathy after their decade long run
@thomaschambers7401
@thomaschambers7401 3 күн бұрын
McElroy your SPECULATION Forgot that STRENGTH of Schedule Doesn’t Matter if You LOSE to the WEAKER Teams of your Schedule. Bama SOS was DESTROYED when they LOST to Oklahoma. Oregon DID NOT LOSE to any of their Weaker Opponents WEAK Teams on their Schedule. REMEMBER, Oregon is #1 because of SPECULATION. If Oregon goes Undefeated the Remainder of the Season, THEN they will be #1 with No SPECULATION. It would be So Nice to See ASU vs Boise State in the Champioship Final !!! SPECULATION - Georgia is just like Miami and due for a LOSS. Texas won that game if they had a FIELD GOAL KICKER lol I’m looking Forward to Watching Some Great Games in this NCAAF Playoffs.
@thack05
@thack05 3 күн бұрын
I think an issue that the show had yesterday was you had 3 people who went, played, or coached at Alabama and the inherit bias was showing.
@turkeyslammer9549
@turkeyslammer9549 3 күн бұрын
Bama didn’t lose any NonCon games Gregory
@stevenglosson5733
@stevenglosson5733 3 күн бұрын
Spoken like a true bama fan.
@Shansman
@Shansman 3 күн бұрын
Using the ACC losing argument, say UT and Texas lose in the first round. We can use that justify the overrated SEC. First coaches poll on August 5th had 8 ranked SEC teams. Then those teams must lose themselves out of the polls (LSU and TAMU) at 4 losses. Bama/Miss/SC have 3 losses, Texas 2 losses, UGA 2 losses. What part of that record necessitates so much respect?
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
They also jump teams into the rankings right before they play an sec team like BC being ranked the week they played Mizzou to a one score game😂😂
@Mountaindwell4
@Mountaindwell4 3 күн бұрын
Everyone has always said Boise state would never do well in “NY6” type games and yet they are 3-0 in the fiesta bowl and have beaten so many major power teams over the years. Oregon was lucky to beat them this year (on their 4th try). Penn st will be exposed by SMU or Boise
@tonkatown8008
@tonkatown8008 3 күн бұрын
Anybody that has played extended amounts of football or any sport knows you have to actually go out and PLAY the games. Statistics and analytics have ruined perception and the actual reality of what it means to Compete.
@alfredallen4265
@alfredallen4265 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I agree those games against Mercer, Western Kentucky, and South Fl really kept Alabama out. Better schedule easier opponents so it doest keep them out. Texas played in the SEC beat those powerhouse teams Vandy and Oklahoma. Scheduled last yrs national champions Michigan. Sos sometimes is weak because your opponents are weak but they didn't know that they was going to suck. Stop crying. Alabama has won national championship being let it when they didn't deserve to he. Finally it was done right.
@sebastienc.2257
@sebastienc.2257 2 күн бұрын
The complaining of SEC lovers is why we need the conference champ bye weeks.
@bigyodatheman
@bigyodatheman 3 күн бұрын
They got it right.
@xavierjackson8788
@xavierjackson8788 3 күн бұрын
I dislike the talk of wanting to change it so non con games are easier, Bama isn't out because of that. It's because the got blown out by OU and Vandy whooped them too
@Rd94209
@Rd94209 3 күн бұрын
We need those high cross conference profile games during the season
@kenwright5410
@kenwright5410 3 күн бұрын
You could just split all teams into six conferences and place the conference champs and runners-up in a 12 team playoff.
@nealj2617
@nealj2617 3 күн бұрын
Bama literally lost 3 games IN CONFERENCE. Has nothing to do with out of conference games. You talking bout sos, when bama lost 3 GAMES. The weight of Oklahoma and Vandy was heavier then Bamas sos. And complaining about Texas’ schedule is meaningless when the SEC MADE THEIR SCHEDULES. Blame your own conference for what happened if you are not happy!!!!!
@violetjames7534
@violetjames7534 3 күн бұрын
The rankings were flawed before the bracket started.
@condog209
@condog209 3 күн бұрын
Bama scheduled Western Kentucky, Mercer, and South Florida, only way to make it weaker is by playing JUCOs
@Scuba4Steve
@Scuba4Steve 3 күн бұрын
Name one team that plays 3 top tier non conference opponents
@condog209
@condog209 3 күн бұрын
@Scuba4Steve USC while playing 9 conference games still plays ND, and this year also had LSU that's 11 P4 Opponents
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
@@condog209lol shut him up quick 😂😂
@violetjames7534
@violetjames7534 3 күн бұрын
Bama or no Bama we still didn’t get the 12 best teams in the country.
@marksolum1794
@marksolum1794 3 күн бұрын
You are rating Texas way too high.
@jmac11888
@jmac11888 3 күн бұрын
Its embarrassing to defend bama.. They got beat by two 6-6 teams and 1 of them was a blowout.. They dont belong in the playoff!!!!!!!!
@quentinbgy
@quentinbgy 3 күн бұрын
Bro wants to make this an SEC tournament
@sunsin1592
@sunsin1592 3 күн бұрын
It's not a playoff, it's an invitational. We need a true playoff, with ALL the conference champs and no committee. It can be done, but corporate greed has gotten in the way, even though a real playoff would be far better and create real interest across the country in every conference.
@Scuba4Steve
@Scuba4Steve 3 күн бұрын
They can still make their money if they expand conference championships to a conference playoff
@jamesgiftos3260
@jamesgiftos3260 3 күн бұрын
This is just so obviously biased. ESPN owns SEC Network so ofc they are salty their star kids didnt make it
@colbyhofferek7668
@colbyhofferek7668 3 күн бұрын
It is incredibly disingenuous to keep touting Bama as “having beaten three Top 20 teams”. Mizzou is hot garbage. Everyone that is honest with themselves should be able to admit Mizzou does not belong in the top 20.
@rileyedwards1673
@rileyedwards1673 3 күн бұрын
see when you say teams shouldn’t schedule hard out conference anymore, ur wrong because they already do that. all power 4 teams play weak teams for out of conference to start the year. georgia vs clemson week 1 was abt it. everyone else had cupcakes.
@enlightenedrogue3871
@enlightenedrogue3871 3 күн бұрын
You are a Bama / SEC homer regardless of how you “pretty up” your VERY biased opinion.
@robertstwocents
@robertstwocents 3 күн бұрын
Move the playoff to 16 teams!
@stonefreezer9151
@stonefreezer9151 3 күн бұрын
Bama didn’t already have a weak out of conference schedule? Are you kidding me
@jcorner17
@jcorner17 3 күн бұрын
Then if you use your logic based on what you said, then FSU should have gotten in because the lost no games and won their conference, but they used the QB injury against them.
@kenwright5410
@kenwright5410 3 күн бұрын
FSU should have gotten in last year.
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
And now uga QB is out but doesn’t matter now since it’s not fsu 😂😂
@JustN0pe3
@JustN0pe3 2 күн бұрын
​@@SurferRCNot really how it works this year. Georgia beat the #2 team with their backup for the CCG. They get the autobid. Enjoy the acc, the conference where nobody in it wants to be in it.
@kenwright5410
@kenwright5410 2 күн бұрын
@SurferRC Okay apparently you want to talk about FSU - which has nothing to do with the video or discussion. The weird thing is that I agreed with you about FSU; but you still want to complain about it?!
@omieg89
@omieg89 3 күн бұрын
Not only should there not be automatic byes. There shouldn’t be automatic bids. Just have the top 12 teams make it in. If you continue to use the criteria that they used during the 4 team CFP era then it will favor strength of schedule, significant wins, and who you lost to.
@abefroman4715
@abefroman4715 3 күн бұрын
There has to be byes with 12 teams the math doesn’t work any other way. You’d have to make it 16 teams instead of 12 to not have byes.
@omieg89
@omieg89 3 күн бұрын
@ my bad I didn’t mean no byes. I just meant winning a conference shouldn’t grant you an automatic bye. Sorry for the confusion.
@EB-bl6cc
@EB-bl6cc 3 күн бұрын
Agreed @ automatic bids for conference championships being BS. Eventually we're going to have a 4 or 5 loss team sneak their way into a conference championship and win it, then automatically be in the playoff lol
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
How do you know whothe best 12 are? Rankings are just opinions nothing more
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
@@EB-bl6ccand if they win it all will you say they didnt earn it??
@tclassic6040
@tclassic6040 3 күн бұрын
Bama is out but everyone still talking about bama instead of texas losing twice to Georgia smh
@richardransome4943
@richardransome4943 3 күн бұрын
Alabama should leave SEC and become independent. Alabama made the SEC. From bear Bryant to Saban made the SEC.
@Niddler420
@Niddler420 3 күн бұрын
Just look at bamas ooc schedule this year
@greglittles9176
@greglittles9176 3 күн бұрын
The problem is these arguments should have been made last week when the regular season final top 25 came out. You can’t make a drastic change after the conference championship games. The committee chairman said it last week. There wasn’t going to be big changes. For bama if smu would have won or lost in a blow out. Bama would have been in at #11. If UGA would have lost then they may have pushed us back & put bama in because we would have had said record as bama & they won head to head. They got it right at the end of the day but it does need to change next year.
@DrainDeSwamp
@DrainDeSwamp 3 күн бұрын
#60 strength of Schedule ranked Oregon 😁 SMU #75, Notre Dame #56, Boise State #86... Playoffs a Joke. Need Computer to do the picking
@bigyodatheman
@bigyodatheman 3 күн бұрын
You can't argue SOS if you lose to the weaker teams
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
Michigan with the 50th sos last year….
@joelnye6399
@joelnye6399 3 күн бұрын
Alabama lost all their games IN CONFERENCE! What they did out of conference did not matter.
@lil_unholy7862
@lil_unholy7862 3 күн бұрын
So you don’t know anything, we didn’t lose all our games in conference
@bigyodatheman
@bigyodatheman 3 күн бұрын
​@lil_unholy7862The ones they lost were in conference
@lil_unholy7862
@lil_unholy7862 3 күн бұрын
@@bigyodatheman that's true but that's not what this dude stated
@bigyodatheman
@bigyodatheman 2 күн бұрын
@lil_unholy7862 it's what he meant
@bkm4926
@bkm4926 3 күн бұрын
SEC n big 10 need to have tier on the teams base on past few yr performances and require each team to play specific game vs each tier. The unbalance on their schedule is ridiculous
@BDEntertainment423
@BDEntertainment423 3 күн бұрын
If anything they just cherry pick who they want to give value when it comes to win loss record. They also cherry pick when it comes to strength of schedule and record.
@Nonpeon
@Nonpeon 3 күн бұрын
A 16 team playoff is the only thing that makes sense. Then 1 plays 16, 2 plays 15, 3 plays 14, etc...
@Edward_USMC13
@Edward_USMC13 3 күн бұрын
You're not wrong but man that just feels like too many games, I realize these kids are making big money now but to even add an extra round like that is Wild
@Nonpeon
@Nonpeon 3 күн бұрын
@@Edward_USMC13 Actually if you eliminate the defunct conference championships and just base the playoffs on rankings, then that would eliminate a game played for many in the season. And you could start the playoffs a week earlier. Imagine the MAC champ playing Alabama and beating Alabama in the playoffs. This will spread talent out (kids not wanting to sit the bench at a bigger school), and more competitive games would happen in 2-3 years after it is created.
@Edward_USMC13
@Edward_USMC13 3 күн бұрын
@@Nonpeon hey man I'm here for it 🤷💪😂
@PerunaMuayThai
@PerunaMuayThai 3 күн бұрын
If SMU wins a game their SOS goes down but if Bama wins the SOS goes up by default.
@violetjames7534
@violetjames7534 3 күн бұрын
It’s ok. SMU, Indiana, and Arizona State can beat Georgia and Texas. 😂
@theronr7464
@theronr7464 3 күн бұрын
So, Greg what you're saying is the biggest gripe is that Georgia and Alabama (and maybe Tennessee) got the shaft from....Greg Sankey? The out of conference schedule gripe is hilarious! All SEC teams (except Georgia, Florida and sometimes S. Carolina) play 3 cupcake games and then with a 3-5 conference record and voila! they are bowl bound. The schedule imbalance this year was primarily WITHIN conference.
@ExcitedCamperVan-vt8gm
@ExcitedCamperVan-vt8gm 2 күн бұрын
Homer lam out
@onstructures
@onstructures 3 күн бұрын
“Texas hardly left the state of Texas until October” Also Texas: Played the reigning national champs in Ann Arbor in week 2
@bryanwells23
@bryanwells23 3 күн бұрын
😂
@MatthewGreene-oh2lh
@MatthewGreene-oh2lh 2 күн бұрын
Can some one please explain to me why everyone is sooo surprised that a team with 3 regular season loses 2 of which were against .500 teams that Wouldn't even be going to a bowl game without the wins they got over Alabama got left out for a team ever lost 1 game and went undefeated in a super conference. I'm in no way suggesting the acc and the sec are comparable because they aren't but neither is a 9 and 3 record against a 11 and 1 record. This is the dumbest conversation ever. I don't even feel like Bama has the best complaint if you really want this argument then make it for the team that throttled georgia. Or south Carolina who is playing better than anyone the past 2 and a half months. But because they are Alabama everyone wants them in off their past success. Quit crying you didn't deserve to make it or you would have made it.
@cameronray1387
@cameronray1387 3 күн бұрын
Bro is caping hard for the SEC and his BIG BRAND bias
@colbyhofferek7668
@colbyhofferek7668 3 күн бұрын
The reseeding argument is close to moot. If all of the higher seeds win their games in round one, it will be an identical outcome as “reseeding”.
@ramirocastano7444
@ramirocastano7444 3 күн бұрын
If you want to make sure the #1 seed has a true benefit of being #1, then make all of the quarterfinal games on campus and not bowl games. It's what all fans want to begin with.
@EricMort-l8i
@EricMort-l8i 3 күн бұрын
Im not an Alabama fan but its almost blasphemous for them to be held to only a field goal playing any one complete shocker allmost as bad as Oregon struggling with idaho vandals. Weird year of college football all the big boys where only average
@shaunbrogan4157
@shaunbrogan4157 3 күн бұрын
Cheating then can be applied! Let's say SMU forgoes ACC championship, then gives an automatic win to Clemson and then becomes ACC champ and gets in ! Why wouldn't SMU do that 2 give another ACC team in ? If they were in, regardless .. That's why ND has that advantage every year, EXPECIALLY now with 12 teams . If u forfeit a championship game you should be out PERIOD! unless disaster strikes so 2 say and something happened. ND should have to play in a championship game somehow! Because of this they get all the advantage!
@amygilbert368
@amygilbert368 2 күн бұрын
I'm calling it now. Just to see heads explode. Clemson beats Texas, Notre Dame beats Indiana, Tennessee beats Ohio State and SMU beats Penn State. All the crying will be epic.
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 күн бұрын
Would love this! Would shut up these elitists awfully quick. Actually they would just dismiss it like they do all losses to their conferences 😂😂😂
@steveanderson5543
@steveanderson5543 3 күн бұрын
The question is, what if SMU would have lost by 10, 20, 30, or 40? Would they still honor participating in championship no matter the outcome? If the answer is no, then we will be having this same conversation again.
@KarenSwereski
@KarenSwereski 3 күн бұрын
Lets just have an SEC 12 team playoff and be done with it. Meh. 🙄
@gdo3510
@gdo3510 2 сағат бұрын
It's freaking weird how much the SEC roots for their own rivals just because they are in the SEC. It's worked to make them the most hyped up and best conference, but it's still weird to see conference rivals rooting for each other. Not blaming them, because it ultimately helps them all, but still, it's weird.
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