MCH Buyer's Guide - Which Light Should You Get?

[@dudelesslethal6910]

I appreciate this video. Makes choosing a light for the intended use much more simple.

[@CloudDefensive]

Glad you liked it! We're working hard to produce more content that is education for you all.

[@CSX4545]

I’m a light geek. I own all the lights, Cloud Defense , Streamlight, Modlight , Surefire and experiment with them on calls. My favorite overall is the MCH HC . It does better for me for vehicles, tree lines and large warehouses. I carry two on my belt when I’m in uniform. The MCH HC and Modlite PHL-V2.

[@jhendri50BMG]

Living on a farm, I chose the HC and it's the perfect light. Dogs go barking, can spot the armadillo or coyote or whatever out in the field. We use it so much, the wife said she wants one of her own. I'll have to oblige her wishes lol.

[@CloudDefensive]

Yep, that's a perfect application for the HC!

[@thejakelegion]

I did the exact same thing. Moved to a farm and within a week I went online and bought the HC to reach around my 15 acres. Love it. Will be buying more.

[@5five6x45]

Well, I was the surefire guy for well over 10/15 years and in the last video MCH DUTY WELL I ORDERED ONE GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE YOU EVEN SET IT WITH THE CHARGER AND 3 DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUTTEN CONFIGURATION. I HAD NO IDEA. BUT THE FULL SEND WAS WHEN I WENT IN THE DARK BACK 30 ACRES WHERE I LIVE AND FIRED THAT THING UP WOW OFF THE HOOK. SO GOOD BUY SF IT WAS A LONG RELATIONSHIP 💔BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHEN ITS OVER AND ITS OVER! LOVE YOUR PRODUCTS!😍

[@CloudDefensive]

Love to hear it!

[@andrewm6393]

Been keeping track of CD since the owl came out and I finally pulled the trigger on a couple. Have a mch df edc and rein 3.0 out for delivery today and I’m pretty stoked to try them out.

[@CloudDefensive]

Nice! Enjoy!!

[@MarcoMassarotto]

More and more happy to have purchased my MCH Duty: looking forward to put my hands on it in a few days.

[@thecarlonian]

I've got a REIN 2.0 for my best rifle. I plan to get an EPL for my duty and EDC pistols. I also plan to get an MCH EDC for duty, ironically. If I need to light up the dark at distance, odds are, the rifle is in my hand. On shift and during searches, I like the that MCH EDC really spills wide and there's a nice hotspot. I can just pop the light and do a quick assessment on what I observe then move. I can also basically turn the MCH into a torch with all that usable throw and spill. I've found that's good for structure searches and warrants. As far as the EPL, my duty pistol is a Glock 34 and and im looking to upgrade from the old TLR-1. Finally, when hunting and camping in the sticks, or out in the proverbial field, low lumens (50-100) really does go a long way for close-in admin tasks like checking maps, rigging ans so forth. When it's pitch dark, that light can make all the difference while retaining good night vision outside of the spill. Thanks for considering end user applications. Also. In the future, any chance you'll include a steel bezel on the MCH EDC? I drop my hand-held all the time.

[@CloudDefensive]

Love to hear it and thanks for the feedback! An MCH-EDC with a steel bezel is essentially an MCH Duty. The Duty has a very similar color profile to the LED and has more output as well. That should fit your needs nicely.

[@MMTB2011]

Awesome Break down , very helpful , I have the Chiro, and the MCH EDC. love them

[@CloudDefensive]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@captainskippy6622]

Excellent and informative video. I’ll be ordering the EDC. As a retired LEO, I just want something to pocket carry to light up the night (and bad guy).

[@hunterriley755]

I’d love a pistol light with output similar to that of the edc 👀👀

[@Honezjr]

…that fits in X300 holsters 😉

[@orion45acp]

@@Honezjr100%

[@MrSteveb1]

I now have the Chicro, great admin light, the duty and as of today, the MCH DF HC, I think I have all my bases covered. Awesome light, awesome performance. 👍👍

[@looloo6322]

Bought one for my Son-in-law for Christmas, after he charged the battery and we tested it , I went and bought one for myself the next day.

[@CloudDefensive]

Happy to hear it! Enjoy your new MCH.

[@NotStockPhoto]

The video I’ve been waiting for……..even though the correct answer is always all of them 😅

[@GurtyVideos]

Thank you for this guide. Going with the EDC for sure!

[@robocop1051]

I own and use the EDC for duty. If the the "Duty" was available at the time, I may have picked it instead, but I'm still very satisfied with my current light. That being said, even the EDC is built like a tank (a much smaller tank than the Duty, but still a tank none the less). If the "Duty" is a beefed up version of the EDC, maybe there will be beefier version of the HC in the future?? A little extra lumens? A few thousand more candela? and a much more aggressive/offensive exterior design??? I'll be holding out for the prospect of that light in the future.

[@blackmarshalprecision]

Just ordered the EDC and the Duty 🤙🏾

[@pmedic523]

Love my edc df. Probably will be picking up the duty at some point too.

[@FISHINGMO-i9s]

The only problem I have with the MCH (kinda nitpicking) is that the body doesn’t have any texture to aid in gripping the light. I understand completely that it was designed to be pocket carried and the slick body helps prevent snagging on pockets etc… but I would at least like the option of some kind of texture on the body of the light because at work if I get oil or something on my hands it gets a little slippery for my liking. Even with that I still love the lights and I think the overall design is hands down the best on the market right now.

[@magnusred2945]

Have you come up with a third party grip?

[@jd2280]

You can toss a mini ranger band on it and it will probably give you what you're looking for, texture wise.

[@travislupum]

Im used to big lights I have been a surefire fan boy for years and a collector as well. as of yesterday i got my first mch duty ho df on the way as well as a chicro for my wife i got the duty for edc because i am very rough on equipment and i like that i can service the lens myself

[@fiskking]

6:36 When will the battery holders be released for 18650/18350? Thanks.

[@orion45acp]

Great. Now I need all of them.

[@CloudDefensive]

This is the way.

[@orion45acp]

@@CloudDefensive to get in trouble with my wife

[@user-wh9mr9tb7q]

Got mch-hc df. It's not perfect, but close. MCH is the ONLY 🇺🇸 tactical flashlight in the market with 1) high candela 2) WML class durability 3) dual fuel capability and 4) programmable mode groups. Especially those programmability is the killer feature for EDC use. That being said, I hope next gen MCH to have 1) sustained output in high mode e.g. REIN 3.0 and 2) replaceable bezel/optic. Dropped my MCH a few times, and it seems to get dings on bezel more easily than other flashlights I've used.

[@jessarellanes6648]

Picked up the 3.0 from OP , haven’t installed it yet. Great video.

[@barryhallsted]

Thanks for the video. I purchased the MCH Duty. Great tool! But I would like to mount in on my AR10 for a low light hog hunt. Can this be done? Any M-Lok Picatinny recomendations?

[@robertdutka3409]

Any chance the EDC or something similar will be offered again? I was told it's no longer in the lineup. The HC is more of a thrower and the Duty is on the large side.

[@Nate-zm6bd]

bought 5 more cloud lights on fathers day. their sale is lit. go spend all your moneys guys.

[@constructiveruckus86]

I bought a duty just cause anyway. Learned it's not the best pocket light as y'all mentioned, possible but don't attempt to hold it after a long use. I'll likely just have multiple anyway 😂.

[@youreright7534]

If the duty had come out at the same time as the DF mch I probably would've gotten it. But since I have a DF HC I'm not getting the duty. HC for win with the battery life, also having more candela is always nice

[@dr3wbyyy]

I like the duty. Even if it’s too big and bulges out my pocket then it just added another unintended benefit 😉.

[@Davidmoore-xy6wu]

If I can edc a shadow systems xr920 with an extra mag I’ll go with the duty and take an hc for my lightweight system

[@michaelfabian2401]

How about a little 10 month later EPL update for the people who buy and support your whole business?

[@CloudDefensive]

The update has been the same all along. We'll release it when it's ready, and when we have an update, you'll be the first to know. Trust us, we want it out more than you guys do.

[@michaelfabian2401]

@@CloudDefensive Wonderful to hear, but seriously if y'all would make a nice little simple sit down and talk to the camera, and take 5 minutes to quickly update everyone on where things currently are in the EPL process, challenges, setbacks, achievements maybe even a little expected live date? That would be Fantastic! Thank You!

[@johndunbar2393]

@@michaelfabian2401 You guys act like rabid dogs with no date. They're supposed to give a date and risk missing it? What does all that matter anyway? It's not going to get it done any faster man. Be happy they're releasing several other products.

[@michaelfabian2401]

@@johndunbar2393 I mean I guess I/we can continue buying Surefire and Streamlight. No shortages there, now LAPG, Holosun and many other are coming out with pistol lights as well. I guess as a customer and someone wanting to give CD my hard earned money, I thought asking them for a little update on the process of the EPL would be acceptable? Even if it’s another year off, marketing wise, to get our company message to all my customers I would want the info to be out there and updated. But I guess that’s just how I run my business. Isn’t America beautiful 🤘

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

Does the edc have replacement lens like the duty?

[@alwaysoutafterdark6136]

Do these lights get really hot?

[@jonathanw8733]

Ordered the duty. Anyone know what light pouch that is at5.49 and 6.36

[@CloudDefensive]

Defense Mechanisms

[@johns5818]

So the dual fuel HC is 80,000 candela but the 18650 only HC is 71,000? And the 71,000 one is also the one that came on the rein 2, correct?

[@Taras-Nabad]

Great video

[@kennikenliu2]

Anyone know what that holster is on the belt?

[@ARluvr1]

So on the MCH HC you can program low mode down to 10% power ?

[@CloudDefensive]

Yes sir. If you have any of our programmable MCH lights they can all be set to the following: Mode 1: High-only (100%) Mode 2: Low (10%), High (100%) Mode 3: High (100%), Low (10%) Mode 4: Very Low (5%), Medium (30%), High (100%) Mode 5: High (100%), Medium (30%), Very Low (5%)

[@johndunbar2393]

I couldn't decide. So I decided to stop being poor and ordered one of each, including the Chicro.

[@CloudDefensive]

Wise choice!

[@Allinoffroad]

That’s how it’s done

[@tripplef7929]

Love the video, but the warranty might be better on surefire, I rather it not fail but I also don’t want to be out a couple hundred dollars, i trying to decide between cloud defense, modlite and surefire I will go with with who has the best warranty.

[@CloudDefensive]

We stand behind our products and offer are lifetime transferable warranty. www.clouddefensive.com/warranty/

[@Honezjr]

What I’d love to see from CD is: better availability (lots of OOS items on the site 24/7), lower prices on the Rein 2 and Rein 1, pistol lights that crush the X300 Turbo while fitting X300 holsters.

[@CloudDefensive]

Thanks for the feedback. All of our flagship products have been in stock for quite some time now. The REIN is very competitively priced. It's priced lower than other lights in it's class and it has better performance than all of them. We're working on the pistol light :)

[@rikt1541]

hard chpice for me between hc and edc

[@Jesse-cx4si]

Not for almost $300 after taxes. No wonder they don’t mention pricing in this video.

[@christopherdelgadillo8554]

Not clear enough. Bought all 3 by mistake (i wish)

[@ahilbilyredneksopinion]

I want my mom ta be able ta darn near blind sum punk at 15 feet er so and stop his advance so she can skat, whuts yer suggestion...

[@freneticfanatic]

MCH HC is my duty light, MCH DF is my EDC.

[@freneticfanatic]

HC is clutch for pushing past mixed lighting conditions (photonic barriers) and dark window tint.

[@justinsmith207]

Soooo how does it stand up to the Nitecore P20ix? Cause its 4k lumen with glass breakers, tactical mode, strobe mode and edc mode. I would really like to know cause i heard great things about your company.

[@Hadouken5150]

I’d like to see a no shits given big light with a massive rechargeable battery. Something that competes with the Maglite LEDs. Those guys have a flashlight with a battery that will last WEEKSs on the lowest setting. It’s not always about having the highest amount of output. I think battery life takes priority over massive output.

[@armo4594]

MCH Duty wins.

[@teelowteelow356]

Bereli has them for $100 this weekend

[@dudeman21941]

Anyone else's MCH HC get hot AF in less than 2 minutes?

[@CloudDefensive]

This is completely normal on any high output light. Our light heads are also designed to dissipate heat into the atmosphere, and once shut off, cool off much faster than other brands. Others tend to soak heat into the battery which causes low runtimes and stepping down in power much faster. This video goes into a bit more detail. kzbin.infoA508Ovtnqzo?si=EaTzTlT8xYBt8oCM All jokes aside, it's a common question but nothing to be concerned about.

[@tomquirin4231]

hey guys, i am a u.s. marine vet here 93' to 97' active , i would love one of these around 2000 to 3000 lumens BUT i can only trade for it here , if you know anybody out there , i can swap/trade stuff here , no $ to buy , i am totally broke ! , i e.d.c. a klarus g15/4000 lumens light as my main e.d.c , ok, thanks n talk soon > tom !