McLaren's Montreal Miss | F1 Round up with SeedStream

[@Steinstra-vj7wl]

Hahaha..our man Max won the race. A storm cap on that mic would be nice?

[@PayWeeklyAlarms]

Hi Mark. Love your debriefs on a Monday / Tuesday. I have just downloaded and listened to your book and it's a great insight into F1. You should give it a plug on your videos.

[@joelmspencer]

Completely agree Marc, I too thought that was a missed opportunity on behalf of us McLaren fans. I was surprised Lando didn't pit, even if he had pulled into the pits and the tyres weren't ready, he still would have had a two or three second comfortable buffer.

[@pleclerc1]

Thanks as always Marc!

[@m12x12]

Thanks for landscape format in current version of Seedstream app. Really appreciate its utility.

[@F1Elvis]

Glad you like it!

[@51madmitch]

Good report as always, thanks, sound quality was not good, wind and maybe poor signal strength, in case you didn’t listen to it.

[@F1Elvis]

Thanks for the info

[@DiscoStu65-sj6pu]

Alpine should pay out Ocon’s contract and throw Jack Doohan in to assess his talent for next year.

[@F1Elvis]

It could well happen...

[@DiscoStu65-sj6pu]

@@F1Elvis why didn’t you drop a supercharger in my Kombi instead of putting solar power on it😂😂😂

[@officialWWM]

They probably will!

[@d.b.cooper1]

Why? For following team orders? For being the fastest driver they have this year? Whole things blown out of proportion imo & reeks of a new TP tryna make him mark in the sport/take attention away from himself/wider failings.

[@Dlweta57]

Certainly sounds sensible

[@hondbanjer]

I really love your videos and the dogs, always watch them. But please, could you do something against the wind-noise ? There are professional windscreens available even for a iPhone. If that doesn't work nowadays there are "denoising" plugins wich you can use in the edditing software like davinci or final cut. Would be highly appreciated.

[@markmcintyre4050]

Thank you &. Love the Dogs ❤

[@d.b.cooper1]

I though Villeneuve's comments were refreshing. That's the bonus of having ex drivers on there, Rosberg is decent too but likes of Villeneuve don't have the relationships with these guys so don't mince their words. He said what we all think. Great race and decent summary. Love the countryside walk vibe...was considering getting a place out in the sticks, moving out of the city but sadly it seems the wfh trend is being reeled in, so not worth the commuting risk :(

[@troybeecroft7729]

Hi Mark, Dan Ricciardo has been an on going talking point but one thing that hasn't been discussed or explained is the huge weight difference between Dan & Yuki. I believe its around 12kg. I understand the min car/driver weight of 798kg , I imagine Dan would be close to the min weight and Yuki runs a fair amount of ballast which can be of benefit with no restrictions on where it is placed. What effect do you think it may have if any ?

[@F1Elvis]

There are strict restrictions on placent of ballast, but it could have a small effect.

[@bcosVic]

Thanks Marc!

[@graemewilliams6697]

Hadn't Lando gone past the pit entry when the Safety Car was deployed. Also did an extra lap on Inters when everyone else had pitted for dry tyres.

[@F1Elvis]

No, he was still coming along the back straight....

[@archielundy3131]

Love these breakdowns and the bucolic walks with the dogs. TY. I think two things can be true: JV is an over the top, grenade throwing, S tear pot stirrer AND he was spot on with most of his comments this weekend.

[@sspacegghost]

leader - is always the one with most to lose when a safety car is called. Its probably been one of the best nerfs to keep racing close...counter intuitively its stopped run away leaders so many times and made for amazing finishes.

[@Roguescienceguy]

Max had no business being at the front, but the man somehow made his troublesome package work. Only the very greats can drive around the problem

[@w4lsh]

No business being at the front?! He's in a Red Bull, Perez has no business being in the midfield. This narrative trying to be peddled that the Red Bull isn't the fastest car is laughable...

[@Roguescienceguy]

@@w4lsh your one of the only ones with that opinion. The fact of the matter is that he didn't have the speed in the beginning because the RB20 has a far narrower window of operation than certainly the McLaren, but towards the latter stages of the race he somehow found more speed. We've witnessed that with Max on a number of occasions now. If you can't see past you not liking him then that's your problem.

[@cylonred8902]

Or the problem is not as bad as he said... People complained or said Lewis did that as well - but all quiet on the Max front for some reason when the same thing happens.

[@Roguescienceguy]

@@cylonred8902 oh definitely they have. Prime Lewis was fully capable of taking a troubled car to wins in those three years of driving a tricky McLaren. Don't make it an argument of Lewis V Max again. It's getting terribly old. Prime Max is every bit as good as prime Lewis and let that be the end of it.

[@cylonred8902]

@@Roguescienceguy Never said he/they could not - just pointing out that they seems to be treated a bit differently and I DO wonder - since everyone can hear - if the messages are not quite as bad as they seem...

[@boski112]

F1 is very very exciting these days. On to Barcelona. Greets E

[@Querientje]

in miami and now in montreal the race was basicly compromised 2 times i think when the sc is called out they should close the pitlane like they do in indycar

[@gpaje]

He could have won, but that's how it goes with safety cars, he said he got a break in Miami and now it went the other way with the safety car. However, he didn't have the speed at the end of the race to win. With everything reset, behind the last safety car, with 10 laps to go, he was bunched up behind Max, had fresher tyres on a dry track with DRS enable, but Max just pulled away.

[@F1Elvis]

I don't believe he had bad luck in Canada, just a bad call from the team...

[@gpaje]

@@F1Elvis Maybe, but wasn't he 15 seconds ahead of Max before the safety car? By the last safety car, he was right by max with better tyres and he still couldn't reel him in. Not sure what strategy would have matter with a certain Ferrari causing the last safety car and bunching the field yet again. Even if he was ahead of Max by the last safety car, he didn't seem to have the speed to keep up with Max in dry conditions.

[@exert2020]

​@@gpajeI agree either Marc. They could and should have pitted at the same time as everyone else. We've seen the footage and there was enough time to do it. It's like they left him out to try and keep that large gap, which is ridiculous considering in any scenario the cars will just be bunched up again. There was absolutely nothing to gain by staying out. As for being slower on that final tyre, that is a strange one. Did Lando push too hard on first lap and lose performance? Did Max have a slight adjustment during the pit to improve driveability? Was Lando busy holding back to keep Oscar under 1 second to try and secure double podium? I'm thinking the latter as he was radio'd after a few laps to say leave Oscar. As soon as he did Max didn't pull away any further and Lando left Oscar in the dirt. Overall not a bad performance but those few bad calls definitely cost them imo.

[@optyfen5276]

@@gpaje In Miami there was nothing Max or Red Bull could have done better. In Canada McLaren COULD have given the instruction to Lando to pit at the last possible opportunity if SC on dash appeared and have sent the pitcrew out just in case. Then on the second inter stint the McLaren was the fastest car, Lando could have pushed earlier and therefore decreased the gap to Max which in return would give the overcut a way higher chance. In fact there was a real chance for him to stay ahead if he came out ahead because it was too wet offline. It's debatable whether Max's pace at the end was good enough to overtake Lando if he were P1 on the slick stint. I don't think it was, especially given Max made up a lot of time during braking and going into corners. In my opinion the strength of the McLaren on the inters and Merc on the slicks was if excecuted better greater than what Max and Red Bull had to offer.

[@caro2501]

Lando is becoming Mr. “could have, should have, would have, if if if 🙄

[@TheJeremygoodyear]

Got Seedstream! Had it before, new one is much better

[@F1Elvis]

👍

[@_eusty]

Same here, used it when it first came out but didn't seen that great. Now it's a 'proper' app and use it all the time.

[@PeteLeuenberger]

Really enjoy the commentary and the walk in nature :-) Another error McLaren made in my opinion is to decide to come in for new intermediates after they missed the first stop. Performance wise, it looks like new vs old intermediates were a wash. Also, of course it was tight for him to come in and surprise his team, but he had 11 seconds for his team to get it done and so it that way, in no different position than Max. As far as Ricciardo, I like him for sure, but am getting annoyed at him not performing. Just like Perez, I just don't enjoy watching them anymore, you know this is it, they are not going anywhere. Neither of them will ever be WC. Like Ocon who is a douchebag, Magnussen, these guys all demotivate me from watching them, unless they get passed. And even then, it's only half-satisfying.

[@cwhite90999]

I feel the underated moment of the weekend was Albon's double overtake in the wet. The confidence he must have had in the car to complete the move in those conditions

[@F1Elvis]

It was amazing, but in truth he was out of control and just about got away with it.

[@cwhite90999]

@F1Elvis that thought never crossed my mind - but with that information and watching it again it does seem a lot clearer now

[@DiscoStu65-sj6pu]

Hey Marc, what do you think about Jacques Villeneuve’s comments about Daniel and Sergio? On a side note I bought the Kombi that you and Mike did for Wheeler Dealer when you were in Australia earlier this year.

[@F1Elvis]

👍👍👍

[@dodgemf1]

Dannii Minogue dumped him in 2001 and he's hated Australian's ever since.

[@DiscoStu65-sj6pu]

@@dodgemf1 I said that a couple days ago to someone in a comment. My old man once said to me you can’t trust any man under five foot six…. I’m pretty sure Villeneuve is about that tall with hair on his head😂😂😂

[@SennaF1]

What we seen in Canada was pure Max. Fingers crossed McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes continue to match Red Bull. They may have caught Red Bull but I don't think they will catch Max. George should be given more credit for his outstanding performance in Canada, instead SkyF1 asked if Mercedes had turned down Hamiltons engine.

[@alecbrown66]

I am just so chuffed maclaren is continuing forward steps this year, turning things completely in a very short time. And getting a newbie in Oscar and the experienced Lando as quick as eachother. It's all looking good, and am sure a few more tweaks will have them able to fight for 1st and podiums at any tracks very soon.

[@obscuraapit]

Ur race analysis are impressively spot on, perhaps a race strategist seat is in ur future. Imo after the first safety car McLaren's chances to win got slimmer, it was either Mercedes & Redbull's race to win, Lando or even Max were lucky Russell made so many mistakes that kept pushing him back.

[@openbabel]

Tacticians have new Ai tools and analysis in the F1 races tis year. This would in theory help them make the best tactics call for pit stops. Please, would you do an article on how these tactical software packages work in practice ?

[@F1Elvis]

They've had these simulation tools for a long time, they're incredibly accurate

[@steenkigerrider5340]

How fortunate being blessed with such quiet and unassuming neighbours.😎

[@clintonmaher6930]

They definitely should have pitted Oscar for fresh tyres too, that was a no brainer. He would have stayed ahead of the mercs if they did.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Windy. Good insight to race

[@CGDeluxe]

Countryside looks lovely and Green

[@timquerengesser1561]

Also feel it was a Mercedes miss. Lewis had fastest pace on track but didn't have quali pace. George went from P1 to P3 by the flag.

[@bunsenhoneydew6551]

Without any safety cars at all, with the speed he had on worn inters, he would have won by a considerable margin. If he'd come out first after the 1st safety car I think he might have found it difficult to defend against max after the 2nd safety car. The speed the mercs had towards the end - could have easily ended up 4th. So 2nd far from a bad result.

[@miamimo70]

He's just bought a Lamborghini Muira, he's winng! 😊

[@Shane_Marsh]

Hi Marc, I've heard all the big noise about Audi coming and predicted to be top 5 team but i remember how much money Toyota threw at F1, even with their huge motorsport history they couldn't make it work. Have you heard anything yet ?

[@F1Elvis]

No one can possibly have any idea at this point. It's literally made up speculation with zero foundation. I hope they can be competitive, but I have no idea yet.

[@botsprevious6554]

Norris had 15 rounds the time,in equal conditions,with the same tires even 1 round fresher to beat Max,but Max drove away from him and took the victory. It’s all about the last round.

[@sandygilmour5444]

Lando was almost at pitt entry when SC flashed up on ths board. Team weren't ready but that might not have mattered

[@F1Elvis]

He had more than enough time. Teams have to be ready for this, the accident happened some time before that, so they knew it was likely coming.

[@sandygilmour5444]

@@F1Elvis your analysis is much more believable than Karoon's

[@Robert1187]

Lando swears he’s at max’s level LOL😂🤣. Gets handed a free win and now he thinks he can beat anyone.

[@michaeldorich4485]

I don't understand why Perez has so many issues. I think based on past experience with other drivers in Red Bull the number two driver is somehow short changed. You look at Gasley and Albon when they were on the team.

[@officialWWM]

I don’t think they are short changed. I think Max tends to just highlight their shortcomings!

[@michaeldorich4485]

@@officialWWM I think with Albon and Gasly they much less patient. When Max was moved up and was very aggressive and wrecked they showed a lot of tolerance. I think it was last year when Max was told to let Perez pass and he refused for whatever reason, nothing happened. I think more time and effort is put into setting up his car for him versus the number two.

[@Dlweta57]

I think the car is harder to drive than we've been led to believe ,. Max can wrangle it much better than Perez..

[@officialWWM]

@@michaeldorich4485 but Max is the world champ. I makes sense to put the effort into that car!

[@michaeldorich4485]

@@officialWWM That doesn't make sense to me. You're trying to win a team championship and you want both drivers to have a car they can drive to the best of their ability. When Rosberg and Hamilton were going after each other their cars were equal and Hamilton had won championships.

[@AJNixon93]

Is it time to stop cars pitting under the safety car, time and time again we have seen the race leader being at a disadvantage under the safety car.

[@F1Elvis]

I get what you're saying but that's not what happened this time, McLaren just made the wrong call.

[@Dlweta57]

Alex was doing well, till sainz took him out

[@viktortulbya2107]

Why does everyone think Sergios car was not safe to drive back??????????????? this is ridiculous.

[@chriscollins550]

Because it was dropping carbon fiber over the track and making the track unsafe. Also a broken part of the car could come off and hit another/driver. Its dangerous and that's why Red Bull got a fine and Perez got a grid place penalty for the next race.

[@viktortulbya2107]

@@chriscollins550 didn’t look like it was dropping any pieces, and if driven relatively slow nothing was gonna fall off. What could’ve been is not a way of judging anything… like when drivers walk across the track, and get fined… why….??? if there are no cars for like 15-20 gap in that section, how is that dangerous? What is a car gonna fall from heaven, or all of a sudden decrease it’s time of arrival by 20 seconds? I get the whole carbon flying around, but that did not look to be the case there. Some common sense judgment would be nice. They enforce 1 rule and completely ignore other rules. It’s stupid…can they please come up with rules they can actually agree to enforce?

[@viktortulbya2107]

Like declare the track is wet????? it’s raining why do we need to declare anything? I run whatever tire I deem appropriate for the current road conditions, can someone please tell me what’s that rule about? What if my F1 car is faster on inters than slicks, why does anyone need to care?? It’s my decision to run whatever tire I want. That was a new one for me this weekend. Boiled my brain

[@chriscollins550]

@@viktortulbya2107 Because of the FIA regulations on running both set's of compound tyers on a normal dry day but when it's wet and declared by the fia they can run wet tyers and not have to use both other compound of tyers.

[@chriscollins550]

@@viktortulbya2107 carbon did come off Perez car. Next driver walking on the track is very dangerous they have been killed before doing that. Most of the f1 driver's have hearing problems that's why in interview you see them turn their head's to the side so they can hear the question they also don't know we're the other car's are on track after they got out the car because they no longer have information from the pit crew.

[@peterdevreter]

Toto should give Max a big bag of money and secure that WC in 2025.

[@F1Elvis]

I thought it would need to be a really big bag for 2025

[@1Pandemoonium]

Red Bull slightly less overpowered / dominant than it’s been for some years and Max is already looking to be struggling a bit, with McLaren and Ferrari taking some wins this year, and Max needing magic safety cars to get wins like Canada. Absolutely no chance he could take the WDC in the Merc lmao

[@JerryCrow]

all ferrari! not just the marquis

[@checkbox9884]

What did JV say?

[@F1Elvis]

Google it....

[@WH0oo...]

Walking, talking, wind don't work

[@graemewilliams6697]

Should Carlos Sainz get a penalty for taking out Albon ?

[@F1Elvis]

It was a consequence of a mistake, but not foul play. Should we penalise the outcome or the offence?

[@Dlweta57]

yes.. Thus on the basis It being a self induced slow speed spin, and not a crash collision or mech failure ,, surely sainz had the ability to stop his prolonged roll back

[@gregj3515]

Daniel R has not got the best out of his potential, feel he chased the money when he probably already had enough...

[@F1Elvis]

I don't know if he chased money, but he definitely hasn't fulfilled his potential.

[@Igbon5]

I am super happy about McLaren as my support for Red Bull is waning after this Perez nonsense and the Ricciardo nonsense. I am still a fan mostly because of Max but if McLaren starts winning, I am just as happy. Partly because of the antipodean connection, the great history of McLaren and this particular channel's host direct connection. I feel quite privileged to be able to interact with someone who has had the hands right up inside a formula 1car.

[@keesvanr2378]

I had to stop listening because of the wind noises in your microphone. Hope you'll improve this or record inside.

[@F1Elvis]

Sorry about that.

[@enebovagen]

Max won fair and square! Move on.. ❤ 🇳🇱 All good from Sweden 🇸🇪

[@F1Elvis]

Is anyone saying otherwise?

[@robnero9196]

​@@F1Elvisyou are...

[@Mies1966]

Because with Max.....you have the best!

[@1Pandemoonium]

Best car

[@Mies1966]

@@1Pandemoonium one thing is for sure....it isn't the best car anymore, a pity you don't see unique talent!

[@chriscollins550]

Russel should of defently should of got a penalti.

[@giantputt7066]

They may think that but there was no guarantee they would have come in first, so wishful thinking

[@chriscollins550]

Data says difference or do you not look at thr time delta

[@F1Elvis]

Never any guarantees, but it would've been theirs to lose at that point

[@bjrnchrstn]

It’s time for a visit to the hairdresser 😅

[@adamspevack8939]

So what about the comment that Redbulll, by deliberately keeping Checo out so as not to have a safety car, thus effect Max....is similar to the Renault/ Piquet/Alonso situation?.... Did Max benefit because Checo did not pull over or stop as should have done?

[@chriscollins550]

The fia have handed Red Bull a fine and Perez has been given a grid place penalty for the next race.

[@adamspevack8939]

@@chriscollins550 Thank you, I was aware that there was a minor grot at the team, but they deliberately left Checo out to help Max, as opposed to being courteous to the other racers..

[@Coen80]

Always all this talk aboot spoilers and aero and all the talk about the engines and blah blah blah.. in the end it's only aboot one thing in F1. The tyres. Can you get the shitty tyres to work or not. Its been a problem for well over 20years now. If you have a square box, and an engine that's 50hurspwrs short, but, you can make the tyres work you still winning.

[@markmcintyre4050]

Excellent point , fyi- personally couldn’t get Pirelli tires to work on my car 😂

[@Coen80]

@@markmcintyre4050 I could, the P zero's had excellent grip 👌 however the degradation was too big for my liking 😂

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

Yeah, chassis, aero, etc have nothing to do with how the tyres come alive and/or degrade😂

[@Coen80]

@@bennylloyd-willner9667 yes, it does, but how much of that is by design? Other categories don't experience the same issues. I think because they just have a proper tyre. No tricks, no bells, no whistles. Just a racing tyre. Like how much aero development is put in keeping those stupid tyres alive versus making the cars quicker in absolute laptime?

[@chriscollins550]

​they are ask to make the tyers degrad and the driver's with car design have to make make them work. It adds in a unknown and team's have to work around it with strategy. They could make long lasting race tyers but f1 didn't want that in fact they want to make them a steep softer and even harder to get into working temp and then banning tyer blankets to make it even more verbal and harder for the team's and driver's. F1 is more than just about who can go fastest and push the car. F1 about strategy working tyers and managing fule loads in to the stint

[@vladbox1]

You have been very kind to Norris. I like the guy but he had a very fast car, very. And in theory, he could have caught up with Max and even challenge him for the win, but IMO Norris lacks the "Lewis or Montoya style cojones" Any of these two drivers would wear the tires to the threads to get the win. Remember there was a second SC in lap 54 and Max was already having problems......

[@F1Elvis]

Interesting....

[@TerryKnight-hw3pg]

Ferrari will storm back in Spain .

[@dodgemf1]

It's a given surely

[@soostdijk]

Yeah, but behind Red Bull. Not enough curbs😂

[@Igbon5]

Jaques Villeneuve said a few things I have been on about for a while. Ricciardo. He was spot on. Ricciardo is overrated. As stated quite clearly and succinctly by Jaques. Also, what was the story with George Russell and the cops there? Hooray for McLaren and both drivers and good on George. Good race.

[@soostdijk]

He is still a multiple race winner in multiple cars

[@Igbon5]

@@soostdijk Neither I nor Jaques deny that. Did you hear specifically what Jaques said? Also that is what Zak Brown said, we had to go for a multiple race winner. Until the truth became apparent when Lando stomped him into the dust and McLaren had to buy him out. Getting money is a better skill than driving as far as Daniel goes. Yuki seems to be better than him too. Obviously Max as better. He did nothing at Renault. He lucked into several wins. Maybe he 'was' 'good' but he was never elite and never worth all the accolades. Checo Perez is a 'multiple race winner' too. About the same standard each. Average.

[@officialWWM]

McLaren has a competitive car, they just need competitive drivers!

[@F1Elvis]

They have them!

[@officialWWM]

@@F1Elvis I’m not so sure about that.

[@grahambeech4636]

JV is a troll, trying to make himself relevant.

[@robertblake1228]

Lets walk outside so the wind will f up the audio,

[@Dutch-linux]

I am going to unsubscribe as this format is not as it used to be and seedstream is a phone all and i will never use any dodgy apps on my phone ... Sorry Elvis i always enjopyed your videos but how it is now i just cant watch this crap ....

[@chriscollins550]

Bye then. Its not a dodgy app its been verified. What was crap about it.

[@F1Elvis]

Err ok 😂

[@theo-us]

Elvis, love your comments and enjoy seeing a bit of English countryside along the way. Much more interesting (and worth the occasional wind noise) than watching someone sitting at home behind a mic. You always seem to cover (and provide your take on) all the main stuff that has gone on the prior race . Keep it up.