*MCPS* 1978 Ford Carpenter - Midwest Bus Museum

MCPS 1978 Ford Carpenter - Midwest Bus Museum

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@dsmotorsportgaming5756 4 ай бұрын

Thank You So So Much Tom And Jon For Bringing Back My Childhood Memories With This Curbside SB Classic She Sounds Exactly Like The Chevy-GMC B Series (1984-1991) And Chevy-GMC Bluebird CV200 (1993-2003) I Used To Ride On As A Kid. When I Purchase Me A 2018 Chevy Express Club Wagon, She Will Receive A Alison AT 545 Swap Herself Bro. Keep This Classic Looking Good & Sounding Good Too, I Wish I Could Rode On The Gasoline Powered Alison AT Ford B Series (1980-1994) Myself. Anyway Keep Em Coming Guys Much Love & Peace🚌💚

@TacoMan8102 4 ай бұрын

more coming next month!

@dsmotorsportgaming5756 4 ай бұрын

@@TacoMan8102Look Forward To It Sir💚

@iansimpkins2570 8 ай бұрын

Interesting vid, I learned more about the Allisons in this video than anything I've seen before. I rode loadstar 1600 / 1700 busses through school, all with the 540's and now I know why the drivers were always slamming the gas to the floor. I didn't know Allisons shifted better when rode hard. I also remember that thud / clang with the jump forward when the driver would put it in gear and it throwing you around while it decided which gear it wanted to be in. Nice ride along, thanks.

@southernbustransportation 8 ай бұрын

Great video! That engine and transmission whine sounds like the gates of heaven. Beautiful sound!

@TheRenard10 5 ай бұрын

Sentimentally!

@brandon.brooks4872 Ай бұрын

Yep...sounds of my elementary and middle school childhood right here!

@kaiyoshi2243 8 ай бұрын

Dang, she runs good! Back when I drove school buses in the mid 90's, we had 2 1977 Ford Thomas' With the 361 V8 and the mechanic called it an AT-500, *was probably a 540. Ran just like this bus. Would get stuck shifting back and forth between 2nd and 3rd a lot. Just like you said, they liked it all the way to the floor or just tap it. Not mid way throttle. Both our buses turned like aircraft carriers but ran good and were fun to drive. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

@savagejiren9660 6 ай бұрын

Did you drive for South Carolina?

@kaiyoshi2243 6 ай бұрын

@@savagejiren9660 I did, for a bout 3 years.

@DonteTheGuy6622 3 ай бұрын

Its beautiful.... it relieves me so much to see older school buses still intact and restored even after Double A Transportation sold all their vintage buses in 2007

@RobertPaniagua 3 ай бұрын

This looks like a Montgomery County, Maryland bus! I remember riding those buses including that exact Carpenter Ford group they had. I also rode their Blue Bird S1800 Int'l and their 1977 Superior International Loadstar 1700 from that same school system

@johnnealis8851 3 ай бұрын

That's the sound of my childhood. All of the buses in the district I work for have Allison electronic transmissions. They want tour foot all the way in as well, but I miss the Allison whine.

@ducharmestudios7157 7 ай бұрын

This bus is a true survivor.

@cardiffchris 4 ай бұрын

The way it sounds shifting into second gear took me to a memory of 1979 YMCA Summer Camp 4:10

@TheRenard10 5 ай бұрын

This bus has some sentimental transmission sounds!

@bredinacanbusses 8 ай бұрын

The fact that we had these all the way in the 1970s is so amazing man

@davidjones7516 3 ай бұрын

Love that bus with roar and the whine memories❤

@anthonyholmes195 2 ай бұрын

What made the roar,the tires?

@patrickrichmond9896 5 ай бұрын

I have found a grand space for our great guy Tommy Retro and these grand school buses. Right on the grounds of the National Museum of Transportation located on the outskirts of Kirkwood. Jon, I noticed that not only you filmed this bus but also the Wayne as well. I think it was R & E Transit or L & A Transit bought a fleet of Wayne Lifeguards and they all sat on a Ford B700 chassis. They all had an engine and transmission similar to the one on this bus. Special School District was a repeat customer of Carpenter. The dash seen on this bus was developed between 1958 and 1986. The first set were painted a dark green and then in 1968, they were painted black like you see here.

@chadsheppard3576 3 ай бұрын

Love how it shifts from 3rd to 2nd. Hydraulic transmissions always love to do that

@whirlpool1978 8 ай бұрын

This brings back memories of all the times I was in school-riding in the gasoline powered school buses-and the whine of the automatic transmission brings back memories as well. You would think that they would have a 460 big block engine or bigger to pull all of that weight around-but according to the information on this video-it has a little 370 cubic inch engine-a dog.

@randykroells8049 8 ай бұрын

Our 69 Chev Carpenter had a 292 60 passenger manual shift.

@1940limited 8 ай бұрын

When I was in school we had Internationals with 5-speed, non-synchro manual transmissions. That was fun to watch.

@whirlpool1978 8 ай бұрын

Was the 370 engine a small block or a big block engine-about like the Chevy 366 industrial big block engine?

@posilna7944 7 ай бұрын

@@whirlpool1978 370 is a big block, in the 385 lima engine family along with the 429 and the 460.

@dwi189 5 ай бұрын

@@whirlpool1978 When I went to school, the school district that I attended had a fleet of 1960's into early 1970's GMC busses powered by GMC V6's......305 and 351 cubic inch gas engines.

@mds2465 4 ай бұрын

I didn’t realize this bus was equipped with an automatic transmission until you mentioned it

@BryceNewall 7 ай бұрын

I rode buses with that transmission in the early 80s. I remember the 1st and 2nd gear whine like it was yesterday! The front end looked different, though -- it was taller and had square headlamps. Also, some of the buses I rode ran on liquid propane. Funny thing -- Honda Accord automatic transmissions of the early 90s also had a similar wine, but only in 1st gear.

@U-tuber98 7 ай бұрын

That bus has a Ford Engine, with an Allison Automatic Transmission......Very Reliable

@MisterMikeTexas 8 ай бұрын

I remember that transmission sound riding the International Harvester-based school busses. Looks like the Allison automatics were also in the Ford-based busses, and automatic-equipped medium duty trucks. First gear sounds like an angry cat, "Rrreeeoowww!", and second sounds like a jet engine. Third and fourth, I guess, are fairly quiet.

@CliffKettelle 4 ай бұрын

Standard transmissions are good too

@TnseWlms Ай бұрын

Going to school in 1970's California, our school had three buses each day taking kids to and from three different residential neighborhoods. Then one day, after Proposition 13 hit, they had a single bus and they merged the three different routes into one long trip making some kids have to ride for nearly an hour to school.

@kagome122885 Ай бұрын

The AT540 and the AT545 whine in first gear, scream in second, and howl in third

@brandon.brooks4872 Ай бұрын

Takes me right back to my primary and middle school days!

@chadsheppard3576 21 күн бұрын

@@brandon.brooks4872I remember the 545 in elementary school up to high school

@j7b951 6 ай бұрын

I always remember my ride home from JHS in the early 90’s was an early 80’s Ford automatic with a gasser sounded just like this. Smellled like tuna, I guess cooling system related. Going in to school it was an early 80’s gasser with a manual.

@tomriebau2196 5 ай бұрын

Dodge 500 1963 nice engine backfire love it my favorite 4 speed shift.nice wine and sound.wisconsin.

@dwi189 6 ай бұрын

I have this playing on a bluetooth speaker.....really picks up that transmission sound.

@dwi189 6 ай бұрын

I was school age back in the 1970's....I rode GMC, Ford, and International buses back then. All of them had the same sounding Allison automatics. The only difference was the sound of the different engines but the transmission sounded the same. The International gas 345 had more of a roar to it at higher RPM's.

@smf15 8 ай бұрын

Carpenter used that style light monitor until at least 1995 when they re-branded to Crown. I always liked how the warning lights went criss-cross unlike the Doran monitors that International and Bluebird use.

@patrickrichmond9896 6 ай бұрын

Talking about buses that came with automatic transmissions, Ford at one time built a B model school bus that had one in the 1960s and the engine was so quiet, all you would hear is just a distant whirring sound. This one had more like a general medium duty truck engine that was built for automatic transmissions. They were very easy to drive. Sometimes when we get old, our leg that is supposed to work the clutch sometimes tends to argue and when you go to an automatic, it makes things much easier. The entrance steps are pretty strong. For a driver with a bad left leg could still climb the step while using his right leg as a lever and then he is about to get into his seat. Carpenter I think mounted their windshield washer control on the floor. I am not sure if that was because of Ford or what.

@marke6239 Ай бұрын

Can we get video of the outside?

@timbo389 5 ай бұрын

I remember as a kid riding some 1977-78 Internationals with automatic transmissions that would hunt gears if you let it.

@anthonyholmes195 2 ай бұрын

I see the red lights have to be turned on & off manually unlike later on,the shutoff was on the door

@anthonyholmes195 2 ай бұрын

Now I understand why the transmission was jerky in the 70s Fords we had in my district

@patrickrichmond9896 Ай бұрын

Also talking about the transmissions they had back then, the manual gearboxes were really called "Compound" transmissions. Compound transmissions often had a deep under in 1st gear. It was often called the "Granny" because of the super low maximum speed the bus or truck had when using that gear. If you had 4 possible speeds, and you had a deep under in 1st, only three of the speeds were truly usable on the road. If you had 5 possible speeds, and you had a deep under in 1st, you would have 3 or 4 possible speeds because 2nd was sometimes classified as either a regular under, the under, or a light under gear. I think what is called the progressive transmissions came out in about 1984 or 1985. A progressive box is where all the forward speeds are usable. But in order to have something like that, you have to have a direct in 1st. Not deep under.

@jomfrulysetsfall2119 24 күн бұрын

AT540 do u have a Ford gas or Dodge engine 361

@vince23478 8 ай бұрын

yay

@MrJeep75 2 ай бұрын

Cool old bus

@jonathantaft8690 8 ай бұрын

Nice!

@MrJeep75 Ай бұрын

Neat old bus

@TheBlu04 8 ай бұрын

That transmission is very loud, what is it?

@TacoMan8102 8 ай бұрын

AT540

@iansimpkins2570 8 ай бұрын

Made by Allison

@LukiRudaka 7 ай бұрын

@@iansimpkins2570We knew it was an Allison, but he (Blu) didnt know the AT540 (older and louder AT545) existed. So much for specializing in the older equipment, 'Raf; I'm catching up.

@LukiRudaka 7 ай бұрын

Hey, Raf, what do you think the chances are that Escambia decided to throw an AT540 in 02-4 and that's why that "AT545" is loud compared to all the other Bluebirds? haha I mean, it's a possibility. Escambia likes to cheap out on their older busses. No wonder they were in such horrid shape when we first got em'. I wouldn't believe for even a split second they'd put ANY effort into swapping in a known good and reliable transmission like Okaloosa did to all their AT545 Thomasbuilts (which were all converted to Allison 1000s)...

@raymondhardwick6151 Ай бұрын

That bus will last instill christ returns

@anthonyholmes195 2 ай бұрын

All the automatic gas buses in Pine Bluff Arkansas school district had column shifters,not sure if they had park on them,i swear when the bus was parked,the stick was all the way up

@lakesadmin3622 Ай бұрын

This started with Ford in 1980. No Park.

@anthonyholmes195 8 күн бұрын

@@lakesadmin3622 The 70s Fords with the automatics had column shifters,i remember the driver checking it when it jerked

@anthonyholmes195 8 күн бұрын

@@lakesadmin3622 Pine Bluff School District buses 40 & 41,Fords,don't know the bodies,bug black stripe on the top of the sides

@lakesadmin3622 8 күн бұрын

@@anthonyholmes195 The 77's we had did not but we all know how no two buses are ever the same! :)

@marke6239 3 ай бұрын

Are you sure it was that slow and underpowered? As a kid, I thought it was super fast. Watching this video, it looks like it has really good pick up.

@TnseWlms 6 ай бұрын

I can understand why all school buses are orange on the outside, but why are they all light green on the inside?

@brandon.brooks4872 Ай бұрын

Things that make you go hmmm... 😄 Just in my lifetime I remember the inside of those buses being green with green seats, white with brown seats in the 80s, very briefly white with green seats, then in either '93 or '94 I remember seeing the first blue interiors-blue with blue seats. I never understood the colors, either!

@TnseWlms Ай бұрын

Also, a lot of former students wonder about the purpose of the horizontal corrugations along the side of a school bus.

@tomriebau2196 5 ай бұрын

Gas engine back then with brakes that squeek