Motorcycle Training - You can pass the motorcycle class

[@MCrider]

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[@dadtrap]

Here is something I teach all the time. Leave your ego at home. Remember that you are not there to prove how macho you are but here to learn

[@wileecohagen]

Andrew Trapani thank you. I’m maybe a month away from taking a course, and I’m spending as much time as possible researching everything I can on riding motorcycles. My ego is sitting this one out, and my logical brain is soaking everything up it can, by reading, watching, talking to and watching bikes on the road. Humility might someday save my life, or keep me from crashing and destroying my bike, if and when I get one.

[@vinny5727]

@@wileecohagen How did it go!!?

[@ItothaGO]

@@wileecohagen Well said, sir. Never stop learning!

[@josea5949]

Head and eyes up. Look down go down

[@vetisu_7719]

"remember you can take it as many times as you need" really easy to say when youre not the one paying $230 for each class.

[@bighensdog74]

It's $425 where I live. That's a lot of pressure to pass on first try.

[@Cristina-coolwoman]

395 in Alaska, got my class this weekend which is tomorrow and sunday

[@FearFactoryFan66]

I had taken the MSF course back in august or September of 2020 and definitely learned some things that would’ve helped me better prepare for the practicals. One thing to remember is you want to be in first gear every time you take off from a stop. Now it seems like common sense but if you know nothing about riding, and the instructor cares more about expressing his knowledge but not how to fix your mistakes (he also seemed more interested in going home than providing positive feedback and encouragement), you struggle learning this stuff. The 2nd day he said we would be in 2nd gear all day so I kept taking off in 2nd gear. Half the time I was stalling. So make sure you’re in 1st gear taking off from a stop. Really practice that friction zone and find that point where you’re in the friction zone and your bike starts rolling. Just be careful not to go too far or the bike will stall without you rolling the throttle. Do this every time you take off from a stop just enough for the bike to start rolling and give it a little throttle while slowly letting out the clutch and your chances of stalling on a level road are slim to none. When it comes time for the test, just go for it. My instructor made me nervous and nearly killed my confidence (which is not everyone’s scenario) but when it came time for the test I just said screw the negative feedback, screw my mistakes, believed in myself and I just went for it. I did better on the test than I did running through the courses. In my case I’m learning more by watching these informative KZbin videos, practicing, and actually just getting out there on the road. Safe riding everyone!!!

[@HRBosslady20]

This was my experience as well I took the MSF course on 3/30/23 and 3/31/23 never operated a bike before just automatic ATV’s and Jet skis.. I was super nervous and the instructors didn’t seem to be invested in teaching me and the other only female in my group. I was in my head a lot and I even dropped the bike going through a curve using the brakes.. I got back on the bike and kept pushing forward but clearly I was more nervous after dropping the bike.. I went back the 2nd day and was a little more confident after going home and watching a ton of KZbin videos for beginners. Honestly I learned much more from the videos then I did in the course.. I didn’t pass the skills test I put my foot down 2 times in the u-turn and during the quick stop I was very slow and didn’t stop correctly they gave me a another chance at the quick stop and I repeated the same mistake. I did purchase a 2023 Honda Rebel 300 a week before the class but they scheduled the delivery of the bike the day after the course. I wish I had the bike before I took the course so I could have at least practiced before I went to the course.. I retake the skills on 4/30/23 and I have practiced everyday since 3/31/23.. I’m much more confident figured out the friction zone and practice all the skills each day. Praying I pass on 4/30/23 ✌🏽💋

[@joewolters2399]

When my wife wanted to learn how to ride, I had her practice on a quad with a hand clutch. Once she was smooth with the clutch and brakes, we put her on a small dirt bike for more practice before moving her to a road bike.

[@MCrider]

Good tip Joe.

[@-lien8string541]

You probably saved her life and have started her off on a solid foundation. A year ago, I started riding on a CBR900RR and it’s been tough LOL

[@svensharpsword9837]

Just passed mine last weekend! I stopped by to show some appreciation. You and Dandanthefireman helped me tremendously!

[@MCrider]

Awesome, thanks Sven!

[@kickerpunter]

I just recently found DDFM and he's great. I love his crash analysis videos. I'm still watching MCRider of course!

[@svensharpsword9837]

@@kickerpunter Check out MotoJitsu too!

[@drewblanche]

Was it hard? I take mine next month. I’m worried that if I pass and decided to purchase a bike that I’ll have to ride it on the highway home and I doubt I’m ready for that but going a different route might be just as hard since it’s a long way back lmao. Any tips? 🙄

[@josephlemons]

@@drewblanche maybe take the backroads

[@jamesyoumans7050]

Don't be afraid to make a mistake .... this shows you what not to do, what happens when you do it, and how to not do it again .... Making a mistake in a control setting, with professionals there to help, is the safest and best time to make a mistake ... not when you are riding on a street by yourself .... Thank you McRider for all you do .... just watching your videos has made me a much better, safer, and more confident rider ... 2 years in now and I own a Kawasaki Voyager 1700 ...

[@chrisking-jp5kj]

Eyes up, look where you want to go.. most importantly have fun and be safe!!! Love the videos!!!

[@9al372]

I tried driving bicycle before motorcycle license test for two days and I passed the test. That was helpful.

[@Robocoppat]

It really helped you that much??

[@9al372]

@@Robocoppat Yes, especially balancing and moving between cones.

[@nickmiracle2317]

You’ll go where your eyes go.

[@flyme2themoon720]

Im sitting here on the sidelines on my 3rd day of MSF as fear has overwhelmed me.I get in my head and feel as if i know nothing.Fear can be crippling!I felt defeated and embarresed but you are right om here to learn and this is part of learning..Thank you my friend

[@FloLac130184]

I just passed my A2 motorcycle driving licence recently (I'm from Europe), when I practiced for the slow part and slalom, there was a point where I was pissed off because I hit the cones and didn't pass the gates correctly. My instructor told me to relax, take it as a game and enjoy the fun. And guess what ? It worked ! So, do not be grumpy and have fun ✌️🏍

[@robinnichols1101]

That is a good tip! A game-makes it more fun.

[@Talon6551]

Having just passed the MSF this past weekend, the theme is eyes and head up, look where you want to go. We had a couple people drop out after just a couple of hours. Relax, have some fun, and enjoy this. The bicycle tip is great, especially in getting comfortable in leaning the bike in a turn. For some reason it’s not as intimidating on a bicycle, but the same principle. Now is the hard part... what motorcycle to buy!

[@danbublol]

I’m taking my course this November 4th. I’ll be buying a Kawasaki Versys x 300 😎

[@Talon6551]

@@danbublol I also considered the Versys 300. I would suggest you test ride several bikes, perhaps compare the 300 to the 650. I ended up getting a Triumph T120 and enjoyed it. I was able to do the MSF course on it with practice. Put 15,000 miles on it. However, wanting to go on longer trips and not getting beat up by the wind, I traded up for a Street Glide. Took a lot to get used to the weight, but love it. Just hit 8,000 miles. Whatever you choose, enjoy the ride.

[@joeeckert5128]

I used to take the basic safety course every few years just to break any bad habits I'd picked up. It was only $25-$50 back then. Then I was unable to ride for some years, so when I bought a bike again the first thing I did was look up where to take the class again. Only now it was $200- $300. Before the instructors were all volunteers, the bikes were furnished by local dealers and it was taught at some local school parking lot. I guess it's become too big and popular now. I understand the reasons, but it's too bad. I'm sure a lot of people are priced out of taking it. I knew people that took the course just to see if they'd like to try riding. That's way too expensive now. I'm not complaining, only expressing an outlook. BTW, I'm sure these videos help fill the gap. Keep up the good work.

[@MM-ig1iv]

The msf course in Ohio is still only $50. says it on their website

[@TotemoGaijin]

@@MM-ig1iv That's cause Ohio subsidizes it. Here in Indiana I just registered and its $240. That's about 5 courses worth across the state line, lol.

[@joeeckert5128]

@@MM-ig1iv I'm in California, but thanks.

[@jonathanmagan3696]

I am a certified RiderCoach. MSF is a great way to expose yourself to the skills you will need to become a successful and safe rider. - Keep head and eyes up, turn your chin and LOOK where you want the motorcycle to go. It will magically go where you are looking! - Smooth inputs on ALL controls...(1) understand "friction zone", it is your best way to control the bike, (2) easy roll of the throttle, gentle, (3) progressive squeeze on the brake lever. - Remember momentum keeps the motorcycle upright. Too many new riders ride too slow and it makes the motorcycle feel less stable. "Mall Walker" pace and momentum are your friend. - Have fun!

[@xltranger98]

I learned to ride years ago without a course. I’ve been licensed for over 30 years with a break from riding for a while. When I got another motorcycle I got on and had no problem riding. I decided to take a beginner course and I was surprised at how many bad habits I had and didn’t realize I had. I would encourage anyone to take a course no matter how long you’ve been riding. I have since taken some experienced rider courses.

[@susanfenwick7722]

I absolutely believe in the advantage of riding a bicycle. About a year before I decided to learn to ride a motorcycle, I joined a mountain bike riding group. Hadn't been on a bicycle for over 30 years! I have often said thank God I got on a bicycle first!

[@dploftus]

The toughest thing for me to learn was not in the book and it wasn't a lesson. It was to relax. I was so tense it was rediculous. the instructor kept telling me over and over and over..."relax...relax...relax" That's what helped the most

[@thebrokenmystic879]

Thanks(:

[@RobertBardos]

Relatable. Especially after an exciting mistake or two. Sets the jitters on high. I sometimes have to remind myself to keep breathing! Ha!

[@roads2ruin978]

When I took the MS F course, failed first try so I decided to take 2 more lessons and passed a month later. It was worth the money. Thanks for the videos. It's your videos that gave me the push to learn to ride. Luis. NYC

[@MCrider]

That is not uncommon, I am glad you stuck with it.

[@__so7o]

Same here i never give up ! Congrats

[@kjvbiblebelievertal7431]

I took a motorcycle course and failed it big time. I want to be a biker and I am gonna be a biker, I am not giving up. I have never been on a motorcycle before and there were two instructors there with us. There were 3 of us taking the course. The course in my opinion was NOT a training course but more like a skills test course. They paired me who has no experience whatsoever with two other guys who were experienced riders, so I had no chance at all of passing that course, they sent me home with hardly 4 hours on the bike. One instructor was a very nice guy but the the other instructor was arrogant and cocky. The guy told me to take my bike back to the dealership and get my money back, that was very unprofessional of him to say that to me so my confidence hit rock bottom that day and I knew I failed when he said that to me. Also, the arrogant and cocky instructor kept knocking my bike adding more discouragement on top of that. All I got from that farce of a course was nothing but intimidation, stress, discouragement and a major loss of hard earned money. Total rip off. Also it was raining that day and I felt rushed. The classroom theory part was supposed to be 3 hours but the instructor shortened it to 1 1/2 hours. They didn't want to take the time to teach me. @@MCrider

[@bearded_wolverine3503]

I know this is a 4 year old video. However, I just took my MSF course thisnpast weekend, never have rode a motorcycle, I passed wirh flying colors. I went into it with an open mind AND I took the feedback from the coaches and applied them and when it came to my skills test I was perfect. Riding a bicycle is a tip that I absolutely used prior to taking my msf. Look where you're going, trust the bike to do what you've told it to do and keep your eyes up and looking forward. If I can pass, so can you!

[@chaivue4754]

Taking my course in September and I’m a bit nervous so I looked up basic training. Thank you for doing this video.

[@Miziyiah]

Did you take your class yet?

[@locoocho2415]

Msf course through harley davidson?

[@artievfilms]

did you pass?

[@x-man5056]

New riders be of good cheer. Last year was my 1st year back riding after 25 off, I'm a senior man. I had 12ish people in my MSF Basic Rider Class about this time last year(Apr'22) and they ran the gamut of levels of experience. 2 had never ridden on the street and 1 was a complete newbie. Most of us had some portions of the class that were difficult, different people, different issues. The instructors were great, very knowledgeable and patient. Long story short is, there where 3-4 people who were worried about getting through the final driving test. We all passed. Not gunna say piece of cake, not at all, but lots of years of training/experience, with historical data many times to back it up, and knowledge that just makes it easier, plus range time, in 20 hours. Bring your "A game" paying good attention wise, inside and out, it's a no joke motorcycle training class. But if you can ride a bike and shift a manual trans car, you can 'run' a moto. The course is chock full of info to keep you safer in all modes of riding and then how to maneuver SLOWLY. First time you ride into a crowded/narrow parking lot you'll get why. That's when you find out if you are really the boss of your bike.

[@gmoney1592]

Man I could have used this when I took my test. These tips help more than you know. For new riders and those that haven’t taken the test yet. Practice . And relax . Take a deep breath you will be alright

[@MCrider]

Good tips Gary, thanks for sharing.

[@Robocoppat]

Gary I'm taking my course June 21+22. I haven't been on a bicycle in over 37 years. Never rode a motorcycle. I'm nervous. Any suggestions??

[@ErikWeinstein]

​@@MCriderI just finished the course and pass the test. I got the maximum amount of points deducted that one can get deducted and still pass. I got deducted 10 points. Four out of 10 people fail the class. Three because they're bike fell over and one got too many points taken off. What's funny is nobody spill their bike during practice but in the test three people spill their bike I guess it was nerves. My stepson got 13 points deducted because he kept hitting cones which he never did in practice

[@kingfisherphil]

Kevin yet another bunch of pearls of wisdom! The bicycle is very important as without balance a motorcycle is a fast route to a big problem. Thank you.

[@olafkowal9790]

Hi Kevin I like your channel very much, its very practical! Thanks! I wanted to share how to solve the problem of SHAKING motorcycle MIRRORS. My colleague is a vibroacoustic. His advise was to make them heavier. So I drilled small holes in the back at the top of mirrors and injected silicone through them (something heavier than silicone can be used as well, but correct position of mirrors before). I completely filled the empty space inside the mirrors. 90% of the vibration has disappeared. They are still adjustable. Now I have a clear picture in the mirrors :-)

[@MCrider]

Interesting, thanks for sharing

[@jrarizonapatriot7570]

Great idea!

[@benpielstick]

One tip I got from a course I took recently was not to pull the clutch lever in all the way. You only have to pull it in until you're out of the friction zone and the engine isn't providing any power to the wheel. The less distance you have to pull in the clutch, the faster you can let it back out to restore power to the wheel which makes low speed exercises a lot smoother.

[@peterxiong]

I been watching a lot of youtubers but none paints as clear a picture as u sir..this is such a boost to my confidence..perfect for this weekend when I start my class

[@artievfilms]

did you pass?

[@peterxiong]

@@artievfilms oh man I totally forgot about this haha..yea passed with flying colors

[@randallbrown9901]

Thanks Kevin! The key to passing after doing everything Kevin said? Go in humble, ask questions if you’re not sure of something and pay close attention to the instructor’s details for every exercise. Finally, try to minimize the inevitable normal anxiety by finding a few folks in your group who look as worried as you do and you’ll end up helping and encouraging each other along the way. It’s all about the innate caring human spirit to get you through!

[@snafu673]

They Bicycle never even crossed my mind for help practicing motorcycle training.

[@scottthornton9237]

To the first time street riders: My wife has extensive experience on dirt bikes. She has many years MX racing behind her, as well as a few years riding desert riding. ZERO street time. She was heart broken when she failed her first MSF class. DO NOT get discouraged if it doesn't pay off the first attempt! She retook the class a month later and passed with flying colors. I have was a returning street rider. I had taken the Calif. Highway Patrol safety course wa-a-ay back in the late '70's. I took the course with her (on her 2nd attempt). I learned a new trick from the class: The "press and roll" method that is taught now, was called counter-steering back when. However our coach came up with new verbiage, in order to have me get the hang of it.. "Head, Shoulders, Lean". Somehow I had picked up a bad habit of counter leaning when counter steering. His coaching got me straightened up.. My cornering is MUCH smoother now! Thanks to the MSF and a GREAT COACH. "Unpracticed skills are soon lost" Take the course, it WILL pay off!

[@jrarizonapatriot7570]

You speak with truth and experience. These videos have helped me become a much safer rider. My family and I thank you for helping us stay together. Be safe riders. 🙏🔴⚪🔵😎

[@abyields7831]

Riding dirt bikes since 1992 means nothing when riding on the road with bunch of cars around me. So glad I found this channel I learn something new from every video I watch, thank you 🙏 Sir… Be safe!

[@RickLincoln]

When I took my MSF course almost 5 years ago we had several people quit the class before it's completion. In every case it was either because of discomfort with balance or the inability to work a clutch and foot shifter. I've thought about that a lot since I took the course. Kevin, your advice about practicing on a bicycle first is well thought out. Many people put bicycles aside when they learn to drive a car and would benefit from a "balance refresher course" on two wheels. But, it's the clutch/shifting thing that really has me thinking. I'm 71 and when I was a kid I learned to drive a "stick" because my family didn't trust automatic transmissions. The first time I rode a motorcycle my friend who owned it said: "There's the clutch, there's the shifter...one down, four up". Away I went. Ask a room full of 50 year olds or younger for a show of hands if they can drive a manual transmission, and you'll more than likely find that very few are raised. This was a real impediment to those without previous experience in my class since very little time was spent on getting the bike moving. But, it goes beyond MSF. Look at the state of the motorcycle industry today. It's sales are plummeting as we "moto-elders" age out. I know there are several reasons for this, but I think the fear of having to learn how to shift a machine that is more complex than their automatic transmission car is high among them. Honda is trying to bridge the gap with their DCT bikes, but overall there is a question that motorcycle manufacturers need to ask: Why don't people go to a motorcycle shop with a keen interest in buying something that they have no idea of how to operate? In my mind the answer is the same as to why I don't hang out where chain saws are sold!

[@jamesmcpeake2593]

Well, It's like this, not everyone is blessed or equipped or capable of riding a motorcycle. Or perhaps a bicycle, and or a car. Some people just don't have the inherent skills or dexterity to handle any type of machinery, such as a motorcycle, a car or a forklift or even fire a hand gun or a rifle. Doesn't mean they are bad people. however some humans; for whatever reason (s) lack the basic skills or hand eye coordination or ability. I'm sure everyone has a friend or relative as described above. Comments please

[@codacreator6162]

Yeah and most of them have driver licenses.

[@codacreator6162]

Agreed. I learned to ride a bicycle at 5, mini bike at 10, dirt bike at 12 and manual transmission pickup at 15. All of which made my MS F course and motorcycle endorsement a piece of cake.

[@vadimzubovich5537]

@@jamesmcpeake2593 Well, you're partially right, this thing is called "talent' and what's usually meant by that is the natural genetically acquired ability to do some things better than other people can. However anything can be trained. You'll never be as good as Rossi on a motorcycle or Andretti in a car but still anyone can get good. It's just that many people are not reallt eager to learn. They learn the ropes, think they're good enough and then just stop growing. Not because they can't but because they don't want to. It's like a an average grandma and a cell-phone (maybe a bad example now, but it used to be correct 10 years ago). She can learn how to use it, she just doesn't see all the benefits so doesn't see the effort paying back. Same here: "I'm good enough at parking, I can park well enough by MY standards and you all who are not satisfied can go... wherever you're going".

[@vadimzubovich5537]

This is so true! Knowing how to use a manual transmission has helped me a ton when I was learning to ride. Just the whole thing of knowing what to do and in which order even though with different limbs is helping you get less distracted on things you need to do and focus on inportant things like where you're going

[@snake_eyes_garage]

Having learned how to ride on my own when I was young, I need to back through the courses. The first bike I bought I had never driven one before. The Yamaha dealer made me ride it out of the showroom through the shop in the back. Luckily it was a 185 single cylinder! What a relief when I exited the back door! I will admit however that I had lots of time on bicycle growing up and had sat on and dreamed about motorcycles since I can remember.

[@harrycarter1722]

185? Suzuki? My first was a used Honda CL90. Got it thru Honda shop here. Same dream curve before I got it. Next was an Ossa 250 Pioneer

[@stevevandermeer1958]

Good video ! I got back to riding after 40 years. Took the course to brush up on my skills. Wow, it's unbelievable how much we forget. In my case it was more memory training than beginner learning. But just as valuable. I strongly recommend taking a riding course to hone your skills. Your eyes will guide you, trust them. Great to be back on the two wheel road.

[@johnnylightning1491]

Just something I learned the hard way when first starting to ride was to lean the bike. I was riding a bicycle dozens of miles a week at the time and when I was getting into corners I was afraid to lean the motorcycle because it wants more lean angle than a bicycle. Fortunately I just kissed a curb. I didn't go down but it was very close. Overall very good advice, and don't be scared it's your worst enemy.

[@jackskellingtonsfollower3389]

I have some experience from driving dirt bikes. I know they are a bit different but relatively the same concept. Clutch on the left hand, front brake on the right. Gear shift on the left foot, rear brake on the right foot. Probably the biggest difference though is the compression kick start. That can really be a workout sometimes. 😄

[@lt_dans__leggs573]

I had many years experience riding off-road before taking the basic rider course. Learning how to go slow is very important. Keep your feet on the pegs or floor boards and try to go as slow as you can will help you learn better balance. Balance when starting and stopping is important and each motorcycle has a different center of balance. Practice going slow helps a new rider learn better balance and better stopping and riding.

[@waynelarnold]

Friends might be great riders but not great teachers, I’m encouraging a future rider to watch this video and take a class with a professional instructor. My favorite saying is: Unattended eyes will acquire the wrong data. It helps tremendously with balance especially when stopping and starting , and looking where you want to go.

[@smudgemo]

This is a really useful video for anyone planning to get their license. I especially like the part about not viewing it as a pass/fail thing.

[@dlhursey]

I'm watching this as Im taking the MSF course yesterday and today is the last day. I've been practicing on my own motorcycle but I felt like I was starting from scratch almost. My nerves had me struggling to follow simple instructions. With the 1st day jitters out of the way I'm confident today will be better and I'll be able to enjoy it more. Thanks MCrider.

[@geoffhunter1383]

I agree bicycle riding is great for learners wanting to ride a motorcycle, also when helping my son to learn to ride, practicing to ride a motorcycle off-road and learning how it reacts when sliding, braking and in unpredictable situations helped him prepare by building his confidence and skill level to pass his license test.

[@fatbudgiekillen8997]

Your tips saved me this morning, as I approached a round about the car in front went to go but then decided to wait, as I was on a slight lean I straightened up and squeezed the brake (very important not to grab on a rt1150, 2002), came to a stop with room to spare, thanks again Kevin.

[@derekhunter5040]

Great tips, Kevin. You're an awesome instructor.

[@MCrider]

Thanks Derek

[@honeyspringshomestead1411]

Took the test a couple years ago and about to take it again this spring. First time through I passed everything except the part where you weave through a series of cones. I'll pass this time, because I already bought my bike. 😂

[@richpuller1348]

I took the MSF course in 1966. Back then you had to do it blind folded.

[@ontherivet007]

+1 for practicing on a bicycle. I rode motorcyles as a kid but just returned to riding after almost 40 years off. But I have been a high milage road bicyclist for 15 years, and not only did that help with a balance & countersteering, but because I was used to riding in & thinking about traffic/cars, I was able to see & think ahead in various road situations. Thanks for all you do, Kevin; learned a ton from your videos.

[@motzoh]

When familiarizing yourself with controls have someone else call out "Clutch" "rear brake" and so on and then when you've got those individually have them call out multiples such as "right turn signal, clutch, downshift, etc" to learn smooth sequencing of more complex neuromotor chains 😃 Oh and practice sitting on bike with left foot down only.

[@ralphwaters8905]

After breaking my ankle, I used ice skating as an exercise. When I later tried my snow skis, I was a better skier than ever before, because the moves are similar. Your tip to practice on a bicycle is terrific, and I have a suggestion. In the USA, all bikes are sold with the left hand controlling the front brake, and the right hand the rear brake. Reversing these (temporarily) to put the front brake on the right lever would help train yourself for an emergency. Then you can try that front brake in a very low speed turn and learn what happens before you have 400 lbs of inertia under you. Secret tip #6: Learn on a used bike; #7: Install a set of Chinese levers while you learn, etc?

[@XTRABIG]

I bought a used bike to learn and made a few adjustments- tires and headlights

[@canrule08]

Been riding my bicycle better since I passed the basics course. I analyzed my bike riding and started to eliminate bad habits such as dumping the brakes too hard.

[@MikeBarefield]

I think the remember most going through the class was how much we used the clutch hand learning the friction zone and all those drills. Frankly it just hurt by the second day. Not sure how to avoid this but you need to have good clutch control to do well on the course.

[@jodyodell500]

These are a very good collection of tips, Kevin. I tell all of my classes to look you up as your videos are a great source for continued learning of motorcycle safety and skills.

[@artwebb6939]

Shout out to Suzuki My 2019 dr200 comes with a book of riding tips that appears to be directly lifted from the msf curriculum, including drills to practice It also came with a book of riding tips and drills for off-road riding

[@jrarizonapatriot7570]

How's the bike...been wanting one.

[@artwebb6939]

@@jrarizonapatriot7570 I would say it's a good bike to learn dual-sport on, or a good bike to learn on, period, so long as you have no intentions of going on the highway I would say it's most relaxed cruising speed is about 40 to 45 miles per hour, with 50 to 55 being comfortable, and 60 feeling sort of strained It's possible a different sprocket would make it more Highway Worthy, provided the engine has enough power to pull the extra gear I can't really critique it off-road, as I'm very inexperienced in that environment, and I've only put a couple of miles on it Off Road However, first gear is nice and deep, resulting in a shift point from first to second at about 10 miles per hour, and an ability to Roll Along at basically walking speed, which I would think would be very useful on single track I find the suspension to be compliance with good travel, however keep in mind that I came from sport bikes and cruisers if you want a city commuter oh, I think it's a fantastic choice How I personally deal with the highway is to Simply use the access roads when possible, which are usually posted between 50 and 55 the seat in my opinion is better than on some dual sports, but of course not perfect, however I have no problem standing on it for whatever amount of time I need to when my butt starts hurting LOL Joe over at 690 AdV put it on one of his lists of top bikes for beginning writers, so I'd say that's a pretty good recommendation I believe Everride also spoke very highly of it

[@jrarizonapatriot7570]

@@artwebb6939 Thanks 🙏😎

[@jrarizonapatriot7570]

@@artwebb6939 Thanks 🙏😎

[@katrinanordyke7359]

I took the MSF course a year and a half ago, but watched anyway. Maybe I can give my friends some pointers when they inevitably want to ride and take the course 😜

[@robbo4858]

I watched videos prior to taking the course. Many. Particularly how to do a u turn. The friction zone / applying the rear brake are used on all slow speed maneuvers. Training and on the streets. Eyes up and point your chin where you want to go.

[@Silverwinger82]

You can actually find the friction zone without the bike running. Put the bike in gear, squeeze the clutch, and roll backward on the bike, while slowly releasing the clutch. When the bike starts getting hard to push back, that's where the friction zone begins.

[@l.d.barneske8qbi5]

Riding a bicycle is invaluable I love riding my bike to this day, this is especially true to those who are older and the sense of balance might be waning, the bike will rejuvenate some of that. Another thing to help with the timing is to drive a standard shift automobile this will help with the idea of timing, that same timing is applied when on a motorcycle.

[@joemann7971]

Bicycling is one of those things thats hard to forget unless it's been really really long time. I hadn't been on a bicycle for over 10 years, and all that easily came back when I jumped on a motorcycle. I used to ride a lot when I was younger, then I just got lazy but I never forgot. I've still been wanting to get a bicycle to this day. Apparently, I got a motorcycle before I gor my bike. I also been driving manual before jumping on a bike. Both those experiences helped me learn very quickly. I have yet to drop my bike and I already passed my MSF.

[@maryh3438]

Glad I saw this. I did not see anything on the MSF when I signed up about the handbook. I have a month and a half until I do the MSF training, so this is one of the materials I will concentrate on as well as on the motorcycle I have. A big thumbs up and thank you for sharing this info!

[@Staysmokin]

juat dropping in becuase i took the class this last weekend. thanks to you and your videos alot of the stuff i was doing i had already seen over and over the last month. i want to say thank you and love the videos

[@bobl8899]

Taking the course next week. A little nervous but I’m excited. Thanks for the videos and the tips

[@redvikingbiker]

How did it go

[@artievfilms]

did you pass?

[@MrNegative57]

2nd gear ! When someone is having trouble taking off from a stop , killing the engine, lunging , I have them take off in 2nd . They Have to use the friction zone and be more progressive in throttle application to clutch disengaging. ( My first thought before you got to the tips was "ride a bicycle" )

[@karenwebster3485]

Thank you for the great tips. new rider here & soon I am taking the course for basic riders. I will be practicing these tips this week with my bike my husband bought me for my birthday. Thank you .I will let you know how it goes.

[@aSportishOne]

The MSF course is the best place to make mistakes, if you drop the bike its in a controlled learning environment, and the best part is that its not your bike, and it isn't your buddy's bike. So if you make mistakes, you just learned something, and all it cost you was a little bit of embarrassment

[@williammorris818]

Umm...rider training course? Not in Australia in 1973! I just got the learner's licence for 50 cents, jumped on and rode! Later, to pass the test for the full licence I had to do a 15mph emergency stop and figure 8 in the testing station carpark and then ride around the block. If there had been a training course maybe I wouldn't have come off the bike two weeks later and slide into the oncoming traffic! I received only minor skin injuries but I got a valuable lesson in rider safety and braking techniques that day. The thing that's stuck with me was as some good Samaritans picked me and the bike up off the road, one man said, "You want to thank the bloke in the green Ford. He put his car up the kerb to miss you!" Some things I learned that day: Don't exceed the speed limit Stay alert Brake evenly Wear the right gear

[@MrNegative57]

Fear ( false evidence appearing real ) . Online videos make it sound so daunting. It's just a motorcycle , not rocket science. Coordination and balance. It's simple and not that difficult. Everyone tell you it's hard then you get nervous. I took mine so I could ride legal. Turns out, I really did know how to ride . It's just a bicycle with a motor.

[@douglasknott212]

Class coming soon haven’t ridden in a long time. Thanks for the tips.

[@daviddougherty7289]

Your videos have helped me be a better motorcyclist.

[@marina2345]

Taking my course this weekend .. great tips!

[@adventureguy4119]

Got my cdl A, thing that I proved to myself, is even being shaking with anxiety I said give me a trip I got a 800mile one first day on a manual trans ever. My car is even manual. Big difference between those and a motorcycle but I really learned friction points and how fo do a slight rev to make a smooth downshift. Now if I can just reverse this I’ll be ok

[@evillarrealjr7754]

Thanks Kevin. Awesome tips. Been watching the channel for a year and always pick up something new from you. Thanks for all the advice. God bless

[@scottmccraw9358]

Thank you for making these videos. I'm planning on getting a bike within the next year so I'm trying to learn as much as I can until then.

[@hialeahsbest6479]

Excellent advice, particularly with riding a bicycle.

[@youssefidbella5979]

I'm Taking my course this Tuesday, I'm lucky to have watched this video you talked about some points I wasn't aware of. thanks so much.

[@redvikingbiker]

How’s the course going I go to mine next month

[@artievfilms]

did you pass?

[@youssefidbella5979]

@@artievfilms yes I did!

[@sarag1158]

I've enrolled. Got a helmet. I even picked out my first bike! I just need to wait until March 6th. Ugh

[@thegamegoat7878]

How’d it go?

[@sarag1158]

@@thegamegoat7878 excellent!! Riding those 250cc bikes was pure joy! Way more fun than the 650 I was riding. I am going to be a rider for life. I am retaking the 2bd day of the MSF tomorrow.

[@thegamegoat7878]

@@sarag1158 yeah my basic rider’s course is scheduled for May 7/8. And I already bought my first bike. Can’t wait to get the endorsement

[@sarag1158]

@@thegamegoat7878 one of the women in the class confided that it wasn't what she thought it would be. But if you've been on your new bike and enjoyed it, you will enjoy the class.

[@tylertoney3159]

I’ve got my brc coming at the end of may. I’m nervous but I have a cbr500 to practice on.

[@CrossesbyCharlie]

I think my teachers/coaches were into riding perfection and we're making the course paths narrower as the day went on. In the afternoon I mentioned what I thought to one of them and he just grinned. By the test there wasn't enough room for a wheelchair in the lanes

[@29madmangaud29]

Yes Kevin the BICYCLE: good, good point. Getting back onto a m/c after 30 yrs earlier,,,,is quite something. Going from a cx500c to 30 yrs later to a cb900c, big change! I have had to (in a sense) relearn how to ride! That's been now 3.5 yrs ago and no let downs...also important is miles under belt! About 55K miles (30 yrs ago), and about 14k over the last 3.5 yrs. Newer bikes: COMPLETELY different, for example, going from a cb900, / XS1100H,,,,,,, to a '04 Yam. FJR...….wow, complete "re-learn" again. But I've kept the rubber side down, and the shinny side up.... time, miles, and driving defensively , and having the power to get OUT of a BAD SITUATION: A "MUST"! Thanks Kevin!

[@LTVoyager]

I don’t disagree with your tips, but will add one caveat in regard to doing too much advance preparation on your own. Advance preparation and practice is good if you are practicing proper technique, but if you are practicing poor technique then your preparation is actually harmful. Let me elaborate. I am a Total Control instructor. I taught the class that my daughter, another woman and two men took (yes, we had several no shows for the class and one who had a disqualifying paperwork issue). My daughter and the other woman had zero experience. One of the men had little street experience, but lots of dirt experience. The other man had 20 years of street experience riding only on a permit. Apparently, there is no limit on permit renewals in some states. The ladies listened and learned and practiced. The dirt bike rider did pretty well also, but the street rider was poor and never really got better. He had learned to be afraid of the front brake and didn’t get much better during the course as he also had the attitude that he knew how to ride and was just there for the license. In the end, all four passed the course and got licensed, but the street rider left the course as the least skilled rider of the group of four. And once he had passed his test, he removed his helmet and placed it in his top case and rode away. You just can’t help some people.

[@SaintsPurgatory]

If he passed then what's your problem? If the guy has not killed himself in 20 years then apparently he is riding his ride and survivng.

[@LTVoyager]

@@SaintsPurgatory Because I believe in continuous improvement in all aspects of my life. I don’t share your “fat, dumb and happy” philosophy.

[@HauntedNightFall]

i am a newly new rider im female 4 ft 11 inchs tall and weigh 130 lbs so im fairlt small ridin a 06 harley sportster 1200 im a learning on my own and via youtube videos ... i have learned the hard way some of my mistakes and dumbed my bike a few times now i have to agree the fear is definatly there but i remind myslef 1 i can do it 2 commit to it and 3 maintain safty i have learned the basics also should meantion i have ridin a dirt bike a few times and succefully did a wheelie or a picnic table by complete accident ... uestersay i just about crashed in the parking lot but the rationalization took over the fear and i kept it up right ... i have noticed my mistakes each time and i analyze to understand what i did wrong ( that helps) i am how ever looking for tips anyone may have

[@rubennino1131]

I’m glad I got to watch this video MCRider 👍

[@user-vk3oz3jp5x]

This really helped me out I appreciate it very much thank you 😊

[@sergioe7540]

Love you videos. If I may suggest a topic, many of us would benefit from knowing what to do and not to do in case of an accident, especially when we are far from home.

[@tittyrino]

The top thing is always ride with a med kit and to learn how to work with and around trauma. Better to know it and not need it then it is to need it and not know it.Take care

[@tittyrino]

I see that sweet red Yamaha behind you .I am getting the same bike but with the gray and black color scheme I can’t wait just three more months and she is mine.900 yes with a headlamp change to LED and a gauge swap.

[@bloodlust9984]

Thanks for the advice. I haven't taken the course yet but I think I will do what you have suggested before I sign up. Thanks again.

[@spudgunson]

I learnt to counter steer on a bicycle :-) And you'll think its funny but my dad taught me the friction zone whilst operating an old lawn mower.

[@snakechrmr6398]

Maybe a little off subject but the written test for a m/c license in Texas used to be a joke. Took mine around 1964. It was a 20 question multiple choice test. I'll always remember 2 of the questions. 1) The motorcycle's stability on cement as compared to that on loose gravel is: a) greater than, b) less than or, c) the same. And 2) When carrying a package on a motorcycle it should be carried: a) in either hand, b) between the gas tank and the rider's legs or c) on the luggage carrier. The riding test was as foolish.

[@dennis7470]

one finger the frt. brake, hard to jam on that way, teaches feel and smooth, worked for the people I helped learn to ride

[@scottg4669]

One poss. problem with that is the training is a lot of muscle memory and if they have been training with one finger on the front brake and now riding on the streets and need to do an emergency stop they may not be able to fully squeeze the front brake with one finger, making the stopping distance much farther then space they may have to stop.

[@XTRABIG]

@@scottg4669 I see a lot of folks who appear to have excellent control cover or use the breaks with two fingers- pointer amd middle

[@dennis7470]

you're right , the one finger was just to get them started, then move on to a more confident riding style, I still only use one or two fingers, but have duel disks on the front, and have over 100,000 mi. over the 50 yrs. I've been riding the road, and I started in the dirt as a child on the farm. you make a good point about you will do it like you practiced it. I will make sure I point that out to the people I try to help, thanks

[@dalebishop2632]

More great tips. Thanks

[@eddiekent1997]

Thank you Getting Back Riding Tips

[@nkosinathisimelane5616]

Great videos kevin. I started watching without a bike and have referred a lot of friends to your channel

[@beverlydixon5240]

Good video, good suggestions. Also advise students to LISTEN to their Rider Coach and do what they suggest.

[@MCrider]

Good tip Beverly, thanks.

[@mikehascats26]

i didnt take a safety course. i passed the california DMV skills test on the first try. and i watched the STREET SMARTS Motorcycle Safety Video 20 times on youtube which made me a very safe rider

[@souljaforgod6276]

Once again very useful information. Thanks again Kevin, I'm also looking into buying me a Honda like yours.

[@MCrider]

Hopefully not as a first bike. ;)

[@souljaforgod6276]

@@MCrider No its my second lol.

[@FNGMOTO]

Riding a bicycle is a big help to learn how to ride a motorcycle.

[@MCrider]

Yes, gives new riders a huge advantage.

[@richardlohn3557]

Thanks for everything you do!

[@yetisuncle666]

my dad had a 1974 Norton back when i was born in 75. he rode it everywhere and loved it probably more than he did my mother. however he had a "very close call" a month after i was born. he decided right then that it was time to sell the bike. because he knew that he would likely eventually kill himself on the beautiful machine. he lived the rest of his life on 4 wheels until march of 2020, when he decided he was going to spend the remainder of his life enjoying what time he had left. ha was 73 and bought a 2020 sportster. not having been on a bike for 40+ years, it was much more of an uphill climb than he thought to get his license. after 3 attempts (one was not really his fault, he was really sick and should have rescheduled) he finally got licensed, and began what he called "the best summer of his life" and rode all over the state. he was finally smiling, he was getting out, and he was in fact, enjoying his life. every time i spoke or saw him is was always a new project or option he wanted to add to his Harley. or where he had ridden on his bike. he was so proud of the bike, and of the fact that he was no longer setting at home just writhing in depression, and feeling sorry for himself. although it was a struggle to get him actually able to ride, he stuck with it. he got discouraged because when he last rode, he was a very accomplished rider, and had no issues not any accidents under his belt. eventually after sticking with it he crammed several years of experience into that summer. but sadly, he died unexpectedly in mid November 2020. in hindsight i cant help but recall our conversations about the last year of his life that he had so much negativity that he could have focused on, but because of his decision to get the bike, he had "the best summer of his life" and its often that statement that brings me peace when i think back on dad. knowing that he was going out and enjoying the remaining days of his life and taking it all in....and with a smile on his face no doubt. i really regret that we never got to ride together. it really saddens me. but just knowing that he managed to enjoy his life, at 73, finally being able to smile and leave all the depression and heartache at the house, and throw the kickstand up, and just go. his sportster is setting next to mine and my sons bike, and im going to try my damndest to keep it. not because i want a Harley, but because i know how that little bike did so much for him in his final year. i hate to think what his last year with us would have been like had he not decided to get the bike. so i guess in a way, i should be thanking Harley for making his dream bike, and for making a lifelong dream of his (to own a Harley Davidson) come true. i miss you dad, i hope the roads in heaven are twisty and fast.

[@SaintsPurgatory]

Go right a journal or something.

[@JORGELOPEZ-ik4fg]

Thank you for your help with your tips.

[@arfifteenguy]

This is awesome!!!! I had my first day in class today.

[@artievfilms]

did you pass?

[@arfifteenguy]

@@artievfilms yes I did been riding for almost 3 years now

[@justanoldman697]

word for the day.........SMOOTH!!!

[@ronaldhamlin3713]

Thank you for the great advice ❤