ME 410 ENGINE RUN

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Ian Macrae

Ian Macrae

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@ZacYates
@ZacYates 12 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd see and/or hear an Me410 run. Amazing.
@oldbaldfatman2766
@oldbaldfatman2766 8 жыл бұрын
Boy, talk about a once in a lifetime experience in actually being there and filming it. Thanks for the video.
@joek3568
@joek3568 12 жыл бұрын
Supercharger whine? Wow! Imagine hearing a squadron of those lifting off! Thanks for posting!
@low_sky9
@low_sky9 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, I'd rather they're charred in hell
@robinsonsstudios
@robinsonsstudios 11 жыл бұрын
in my opinion the most sexiest looking of all twin engined fighter aircraft, the me 410 truely is a beauty and I´d never thought i would hear the sound of this thing. I really hope that some day this fantastic machine can take to the skies again.
@NoTaboos
@NoTaboos 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer a 335.
@ironmantooltime
@ironmantooltime 2 жыл бұрын
Give me a p38 or a mosquito any day.
@Bulgdoom
@Bulgdoom 10 жыл бұрын
My left ear enjoyed this.
@panduwidagdo7051
@panduwidagdo7051 7 жыл бұрын
My right ear is jealous. Thought my earphone is broken.
@inekemateman273
@inekemateman273 7 жыл бұрын
I'am deaf at my right ear, since childhood, so I cannot tell the difference!
@snooping44
@snooping44 6 жыл бұрын
shit bro i got ring-bell in right ear lol
@opiniononion919
@opiniononion919 3 жыл бұрын
This plane is nearly 80 years old now... Good to see it was still running at least 40 years ago =)
@Frenchy849
@Frenchy849 6 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying the sound of the DB 603's concentrated into my left ear.
@rulfi1950
@rulfi1950 6 жыл бұрын
Listen those superchargers... oh man! Music!
@Teacher-lj6in
@Teacher-lj6in 5 жыл бұрын
A tue beaut, the sound of those motors is awesome...
@Ezza190
@Ezza190 11 жыл бұрын
The best Luftwaffe Destroyer, but again, she came too late to have any impact on the war, and also the Me-410 the last of its kind! this is an amazing aircraft with amazing sound! Fantastic Vid of this rare piece in aviation!
@malcigloe
@malcigloe 4 жыл бұрын
Jajaja
@adamestes5227
@adamestes5227 3 жыл бұрын
I know I’m late to the party, but the RAF Museum’s Me 410 isn’t the last one left. The Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum in America has one as well, though to be fair, the RAF Museum’s example is the only Me 410 on display, while the Smithsonian’s example is in storage, and has not been on display except for guided tours of the storage facility that it’s in right now.
@BlackAce-zr2ms
@BlackAce-zr2ms 3 жыл бұрын
You're never late to the party mate. I'm the user who posted this comment originally, at the time I did believe she was the last 410 in existance. However as you said she's not re-built and is in storage, same as the Ta-152 and Ho-229 aircraft. It'd be nice to see the American example and others re-built to complete status.
@BlackAce-zr2ms
@BlackAce-zr2ms 3 жыл бұрын
Such a rare beast and nice to hear one power up... shame I wasn't alive when she did engine runs. Still, that supercharger scream... stunning!
@BetterAircraftFabric
@BetterAircraftFabric 5 жыл бұрын
Many Thanks for posting, This is great !!! Absolutely fantastic. All the wartime footage of these has no real audio track, so this video of it is our one and only chance to hear one run. Best Regards from Alaska!
@mikeshilton2608
@mikeshilton2608 7 жыл бұрын
I was a member of the Aerospace Society too, in the 80's, I spent many a happy hour working on this beauty, was gutted when it was moved.I once found a letter written in German under the pilots seat, when translated, it turned out to be pornographic. Later, i worked on the Bf110G, Fw190S-8 and He162 at Hendon.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 7 жыл бұрын
+Mike Shilton What you say about working on this Dora doesn't make any sense. When Doug Champlin bought the plane in 1972 the seat was missing. Champlin contracted an aircraft restorer whose wife worked for Messerschmitt aerospace in Germany, and the plane was shipped to Germany and restored from 1972 to approximately 1975. There is a photo of Champlin sitting with Professor Tank who assisted with the project back then. The plane was fully restored again about six years ago.
@malcigloe
@malcigloe 4 жыл бұрын
Bla bla bla
@NoTaboos
@NoTaboos 4 жыл бұрын
You mean a love letter. Don't be such a prude.
@Jbroker404
@Jbroker404 4 жыл бұрын
@@FiveCentsPlease why do you call it a Dora? The only Dora I know of is the Fw190 D
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jbroker404 Letters used in the naming conventions for variants. D = "Dora." "Anton", "Berta", "Caesar", "Dora", "Emil", "Friedrich", "Gustav", etc.
@Jaystarzgaming
@Jaystarzgaming 4 жыл бұрын
This ME 410 has a great whistle sound.
@caliphnah4069
@caliphnah4069 10 жыл бұрын
I used to be a member of the aerospace museum society in the late 70's/early 80's and the society was responsible for turning the aircraft stored at Cosford into a working museum, the founding of the society was the beginning of it all, then Hendon realised we were making money out of it to improve the museum so took it over lock,stock and barrel then promptly stopped us working on any of the aircraft because it looked 'untidy'. The Me 410A was something of a favourite of mine, it may look ugly to some but for ugly read businneslike, it was designed to do a job not look pretty, the interior of the fuselage I cleared of birds nests, a dead rat, various other rubbish and cleaned up the cockpit in the process. The aircraft left Cosford and spent nine months parked outside at Hendon in all weathers before coming back to Cosford, later it was sent to RAF St Athan, why god only knows, while there they got the engines running which should never have been allowed as the last time they were run was around 1946 and could have suffered internal damage, rumour has it that when the engines were run up she suddenly tried to nose over and the prop tips hit the concrete, thats why an irreplaceable pair of DVM props was butchered having the tips cropped off square, did they hope nobody would notice?. Because of this no engines are run at St Athan now, it was all unofficial anyway and as I said, should never have been allowed, the only way they could do the engine runs was to jury-rig the electrics and throttle, all the electrics in the cockpit and throttle controls etc are either chopped through or disconneccted, safe to say it will never fly again, the Me410 in the Smithsonian Collection is just a fuselage only I was told when I wrote to them (I was in charge of research at Cosford), but in a shot of the fuselage I am possitive I saw a pair of wings with German markings in the background in a vertical storage frame. The Cosford Me410 is in need of considerable restoration as there is signs of corrosion thanks to nine months outside, the serial number 420430 is genuine but markings are all wrong, she was with ZG26 but her original markings are open to debate.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 10 жыл бұрын
Do you have any knowledge whether the Stuka was ever run up like the Fw190 and Me410? There has been some discussion that is was briefly considered getting it airworthy for the filming of the BoB film in 1968, but the wise choice was made to not do that. I have also read some discussion that it was brought to taxi condition. Even in 1968, the Stuka was too old to risk for flight, but a film of it running would be neat. You are correct about the prop tips on the Me 410 and now they are squared off. You would think that this would be an easy "cosmetic" fix by a competent propeller shop today, if not re-making them for a higher price tag. Perhaps when the NASM gets around to restoring their Me410 they would be able to collaborate and provide assistance with restoration of the Cosford Me 410.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 10 жыл бұрын
I just saw the video on that beautiful airplane! And of course I saw your comment as of course I find it very interesting! I know very little about that airplane in that museum and I find it very sad that it has been mishandled such as being left outdoor for such long time! But I was very interested regarding the fact that you would never have let them start the engines! The reason I'm writing to you is that I was listening the sound of the engines and I was surprised to hear a strange noise like a wirring especially the first one! First I thought it was the bad quality of the sound but I realized that it was very noticeable! I had the impression that one of the gears inside the engine is "grinding"! Am I wrong? Because if is that no way they should have started those engines!
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 10 жыл бұрын
Paolo Viti The German DB engines utilized an inertia starter that spun up a flywheel which then engaged a starter gear to turn over the engine, which is what you hear at the start. It's a weight-saving feature found on quite a few Allied and Axis planes from the 30s and 40s. The German DB engines also have a very loud and distinctive supercharger whine while running.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 10 жыл бұрын
I know very well that both the DB and the Jumo engines used the inertia starter as a weight saving measure but it has a distinctive "winning" sound when it is cranked up and it dissipate once the engine starts! Also the compressor "winnes" but after warming up also that will be less noticeable! What I hear was a persistent "wirring" as if some gears are grinding itself out! Of course I might be absolutely wrong but nevertheless I do find it a bit strange!
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 10 жыл бұрын
FiveCentsPlease out of curiosity I listened again to some of the restored Me-109 G4 and the G10 and I confirm that both are "winning" only when the engines are cranking up! I do not hear at all the "wirring" of the Me-410! Of course I'm not an expert but I did restore a couple of engines and after reassembling them they were purring like cats! Nothing to do I love engines!
@renehettinga6610
@renehettinga6610 5 жыл бұрын
Luftwaffe had the coolest looking planes forgetaboutit..love the ju 188 with the giant glass canopy
@mattrobinson4994
@mattrobinson4994 Жыл бұрын
Such a cool looking twin engine interceptor.
@mikenaisbitt9613
@mikenaisbitt9613 7 жыл бұрын
deserves to be given the chance to fly again if not on restricted basis-----its a very valueable aircraft
@DannyBoy777777
@DannyBoy777777 Жыл бұрын
That's precisely why it should NEVER be flown. Build an exact copy, and risk that.
@MrNaKillshots
@MrNaKillshots 5 ай бұрын
What a beautiful beast.
@flightsimvids2105
@flightsimvids2105 12 жыл бұрын
Had no idea there was a pristine Me-410 anywhere! Thx so much for the upload.
@vivaprez
@vivaprez 10 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@josephstalin364
@josephstalin364 4 жыл бұрын
That supercharger is menacing! Sad that these planes are so rare
@icancraftsomething
@icancraftsomething 4 жыл бұрын
Sta.. Stalin.. How could you betray the motherland
@bobcharles9009
@bobcharles9009 6 жыл бұрын
I was there for that, rained all the time they also ran up the Fw190, never thought I would see anyones video of it, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH NOW I CAN RELIVE THIS MOMENT, which was advertised as part of the open day and not done surrepticiously as one posted, Me410 and Fw190 two seater engine runs, total bliss, Hendon outside sheeesh never knew that, what idiots are in charge of historic aircraft, and to remove the Battle of Britain hall, disgraceful, and what idiots sawed off all 6 prop tips, rather than put a dummy tip on the one blade ?
@pascalchauvet4230
@pascalchauvet4230 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Priceless
@gianlucaferri9402
@gianlucaferri9402 4 жыл бұрын
Truly amazing!
@davidmitchell988
@davidmitchell988 12 жыл бұрын
Rolls may have been more powerful,but the sound off two DB603s with the whine of the supper charger is cool.
@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs
@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs 4 жыл бұрын
David Mitchell The DB603A was the first generation of this engine and produced 1750hp, which is pretty good considering it was on only 87 octane B fuel instead of 100/130. There were several other variants of this engine such as the DB603E which was both more powerful and had a higher altitude supercharger. A few were produced. The was the 2250 DB603LA with two stage supercharger as used in Ta 152C. The DB603EM of 2350hp not built due to shortage of C3 fuel, the DB693L of 2400hp (an DB603LA with inter-cooling) and finally DB603N of 2800hp with C3+MW50. I suspect with these engines the Me 410 would have exceeded 450-460mph (cube law)
@StabyMcStabsFace
@StabyMcStabsFace 2 жыл бұрын
Rolls were never more powerful, but yes, they sound amazing
@billclark8471
@billclark8471 7 жыл бұрын
I've just seen this video and it brings back many great memories but I would like to point out that there several errors in Caliph Nah's comments (1) A full survey of the aircraft systems was carried out before any decision was taken to bring the aircraft to life. (2) There was Never any nose overs during any engine runs on any of the aircraft at St Athan. (3) Only aircraft that had complete throttle linkage were considered. (4) All oil and fuel systems checked and tested over many weeks prior to any engine start were carried out. (5) Many of the aircraft in museums have butchered electrical systems due to many moves over their life's.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 7 жыл бұрын
+Bill Clark I'm hearing conflicting information that the prop tips on the Me-410 were damaged during a move or a prop strike and they were cut to even them out. Either way, a competent propeller shop would be able to make an easy repair for static purposes or duplicate new ones if future work is carried out on the plane. Can you confirm if the Stuka was ever run up? I have read that it was during the making of the Battle of Britain film, but I have never seen evidence of such.
@MeAbroad2004
@MeAbroad2004 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the same thing - engines being run-up in St Athans as a kid in the 80's
@TamasLaszlo-83
@TamasLaszlo-83 4 ай бұрын
What an intresting DB-engine sound! Oh if it could take off...🤗
@skooter2767k
@skooter2767k 12 жыл бұрын
WAY COOL! Now we just need her to fly!
@64mickh
@64mickh 9 жыл бұрын
Saburo Sakai, this was filmed at RAF St Athen, and this aircraft is now at the RAF Museum ,Coford
@MarttiSuomivuori
@MarttiSuomivuori 6 жыл бұрын
Saburo Sakai? Where?
@ІгорЛомпей
@ІгорЛомпей Жыл бұрын
Яке видавництво виготовляє модель цього літака з паперу 1-33.??????
@allgood6760
@allgood6760 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍✈️
@yorkshireflyfishing1
@yorkshireflyfishing1 12 жыл бұрын
fantastic!
@ulfricsombrage
@ulfricsombrage 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful plane
@ariehaakman9428
@ariehaakman9428 Жыл бұрын
Supercharger sound. Herrlich!!!!
@mybluebelly
@mybluebelly 2 жыл бұрын
If i had a penny for every museum modification this bird has seen i`d be pennies in heaven.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 2 жыл бұрын
+ mybluebelly A least experts today can fix the props, or construct accurate replacements pretty easily. These captured aircraft were jumbled and repainted and perhaps one day some of them can be given forensic restorations to wartime condition. The expertise is available now, so it's just time and money.
@MrMrsedz
@MrMrsedz Жыл бұрын
Sounded like that starboard engines supercharger was shredding itself
@ianjeff22
@ianjeff22 2 жыл бұрын
I reckon I might well have been in that crowd of people as an excited 8 year old! We used to go and watch both that 410 and the twin seat 190 get started up, always remember it was so load!!! They used to have an amazing collection of rare WW2 stuff there. There was a ME163 and some Japanese twin engine fighter there as well wasnt there?
@AC-op4dg
@AC-op4dg 10 ай бұрын
Probably the only video on KZbin of a db 603 running and there’s two of them!
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 9 ай бұрын
+@AC-op4dg Correct, and this aircraft is no longer started.
@AC-op4dg
@AC-op4dg 9 ай бұрын
@@FiveCentsPlease that’s a pity, would die for some higher quality recordings
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 9 ай бұрын
@@AC-op4dg A few of the Flugwerk Fw-190A replicas are moving toward Fw-190D conversion with Allison V12s. There are some DB-603s around and I'm surprised that nobody has considered a Fw-190D replica with DB-603 as an alternative to a rare and expensive Jumo 213. Kurt Tank preferred the DB-603 but could not get them during the war.
@christopheschwartz7374
@christopheschwartz7374 6 жыл бұрын
c' Est bien la première fois que j' entend les bruits des moteurs DB 603 avec des turbocompresseurs je suppose bien sur?! Merci pour cette vidéo vraiment historique...
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 6 жыл бұрын
+Christophe Schwartz Le DB-603 est dérivé du DB-601.
@hasina1461
@hasina1461 2 жыл бұрын
my left ear loved this
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U 3 жыл бұрын
I'm truly amazed to see one of these machines survived being scrapped. I always liked this plane, but its a good thing it didn't work that well for the Luftwaffe.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 2 жыл бұрын
+ Paul Kent The Smithsonian also has an example in storage. The museum has a lot of rare Luftwaffe stuff but it may be another generation before it can pulled out for restoration.
@Th.G.M.
@Th.G.M. 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if this aircraft is still able to run the engines? What a beauty!
@classicreviews96180
@classicreviews96180 3 ай бұрын
The engines don't run and it's internally incomplete. Overall it wasn't looked after that well.
@hanswolfgangmercer
@hanswolfgangmercer 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how much those engines sound like the ones on a 109. I guess they are DB 603s after all.
@renehettinga6610
@renehettinga6610 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I've seen this plane on static display and fotos but i didn't know it ran..music to my ears as a Luftwaffe fan. Theres also an Me 110 intact and displayed..i wanto hear that 87 stuka running..jumo engine
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 5 жыл бұрын
+Rene Hettinga An airworthy Stuka will be completed in the US. The Jumo engine has already been tested and delivered to museum. pbs.twimg.com/media/ECHCtQfUEAAgdGk.jpg
@MclF01
@MclF01 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing i love it
@Redhand1949
@Redhand1949 8 ай бұрын
Wow, just wow.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 12 жыл бұрын
There are two, one in the UK and one in storage with the NASM in the US.
@Avenarius2906
@Avenarius2906 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great! 👍🏼
@dimitribartali2744
@dimitribartali2744 Жыл бұрын
È il 410 conservato nel RAF museum? la musica dei 2 DB 603 è fantastica
@classicreviews96180
@classicreviews96180 3 ай бұрын
It's been in Cosford Museum for years in the UK.
@zanegrey4720
@zanegrey4720 3 жыл бұрын
Nice aircraft would like to see a junkers 88 flying always liked that aircraft.
@Litauen-yg9ut
@Litauen-yg9ut 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME...!!!
@aigeh1326
@aigeh1326 9 жыл бұрын
The Jerry had a Rough Start. But nice Aircraft they built.
@ralfvelmer2098
@ralfvelmer2098 Жыл бұрын
Where is this aircraft now? It will be nice to see it fly again. Great Sound!
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease Жыл бұрын
+@ ralfvelmer2098 It hasn't flown since WW2 and it is internally incomplete. It was moved from RAF Museum St. Athan and was on display at RAF Museum Cosford a few years ago. They do not start the engines anymore.
@SMVB-cl6oc
@SMVB-cl6oc 8 жыл бұрын
forgive me but is the winding sound the gear driven supercharger? all the other vids of the Daimler-Benz DB 603 don't have this sound.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
Startup is the inertial starter---a heavy flywheel that is spun up to engage a starter dog to the engine. When the engine is running you hear the supercharger impeller, and the super charger is very loud on the DB series engines.
@SMVB-cl6oc
@SMVB-cl6oc 8 жыл бұрын
FiveCentsPlease was the inertia start on these hand cranked like the BF 109 or was it spun by a motor like the fw 190?
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
cheeki breeki The Bosch starters could be operated by hand, or electrically. Note the electric start cart in the background that is connected to the plane. The hand crank option was for rough field conditions or perhaps for rapid take off when the ground crews would get things ready in a hurry.
@SMVB-cl6oc
@SMVB-cl6oc 8 жыл бұрын
FiveCentsPlease wow you know your stuff
@nkristianschmidt
@nkristianschmidt 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice, could you do a strafing run and a dogfight with a B1 bomber?
@BansheeBLN
@BansheeBLN 11 жыл бұрын
Eargasmn!
@renewillemsen3526
@renewillemsen3526 6 жыл бұрын
BansheeBLN j
@bryancreech1236
@bryancreech1236 5 жыл бұрын
A war bird !!! Beauty I love it!!!
@trilingual
@trilingual 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Is this 410 airworthy?
@cmkwan59
@cmkwan59 7 жыл бұрын
Such a weird looking but attractive machine, hope soon it'll fly up there with other war birds again.
@jakob252
@jakob252 12 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you phone me?!?! I'dve come over from Calgary for this?
@marioneto2662
@marioneto2662 6 жыл бұрын
É como ter dois 109G lado a lado. Incrível.
@malcigloe
@malcigloe 4 жыл бұрын
Realy? You are a genius
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a Canberra in the background? Interesting to consider that the Canberra's first flight was only a few years after the 410's first flight. Chalk and cheese.
@FilipinoZeroFighter
@FilipinoZeroFighter 12 жыл бұрын
the engines... DB603 or DB 605? they have a distinct whistle to their engine sounds, don't they?
@icancraftsomething
@icancraftsomething 4 жыл бұрын
The me 410 used the dB 603 the me 110 G used the dB 605
@KEM451
@KEM451 11 жыл бұрын
Uh, where's the audio???
@Jbroker404
@Jbroker404 4 жыл бұрын
So sexy. For some reason I think of the 410 as a WW2 flyable version of a Mercedes Benz CL65 coupe. (Or S class coupe depending on what year it was made)
@ridwanhusainishraq
@ridwanhusainishraq 2 жыл бұрын
Zwilling version of me109. Just noticed the propeller hub
@tB3o3tR9o9
@tB3o3tR9o9 2 жыл бұрын
i don't think the BF-109 had the same engines
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 2 жыл бұрын
@@tB3o3tR9o9 It did not. The Me-410 has DB-603 engines with the extended reduction gear.
@magna4100
@magna4100 9 жыл бұрын
I trust those lovely engines have were suitably inhibited after the run.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 9 жыл бұрын
+magna4100 They don't roll out the Me410 or their Fw190 to do engine runs anymore, so they have likely been inhibited. For preservation, it is not good to just run them and stop because you can introduce moisture and other corrosives into the engines. Running them for long periods or flying would actually be better, but this aircraft will likely never be flown and it is incomplete internally.
@MrRobertaltmann
@MrRobertaltmann 9 жыл бұрын
Would like to see it flying
@MyFabian94
@MyFabian94 9 жыл бұрын
+robert altmann Too rare. Maybe a replica one day.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
Only two survivors, both in museums. Perhaps a wreck will turn up one day, though it would a very ambitious project to copy and build one from scratch. 3D scanning technology will make it possible to image the airframe into CAD software and reverse engineer the structure. Those who have that much money are more interested in single-seat fighters, since you could restore several for the costs to restore an Me-410.
@Anastunsia
@Anastunsia 7 жыл бұрын
I want to do this actually, but i need money first.
@cruiza
@cruiza 12 жыл бұрын
Details details so what was is the story behind this aircraft where is it now, did it ever fly again, is it still around flying? oh and thanks for posting
@Priest57man
@Priest57man 6 жыл бұрын
cruiza I doesn’t fly anymore and it doesn’t run either, but it is still on display at RAF Cosford in Shropshire
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 4 ай бұрын
Never knew this ever happened.
@fw1421
@fw1421 8 жыл бұрын
Really? I had no idea the NASM had one! Probably never be restored in my life time though! They've been working on the He219 for years. I went to the Hazy Center ion 2012 and it was all there but the wings,now they've painted the wings but I haven't seen anything about them finishing it off.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
***** There would not be many of these examples surviving today if the AAF had not donated the planes to the Smithsonian. It isn't their mission to have a flying museum but to preserve historical artifacts not just for now but for generations from now. It is doubtful that individuals older than Gen X will have direct interest in WW2. When we are gone WW2 will be as distant as the Civil War. Model companies were given access to the Ta-152 to measure for scale plastic models. If someone finds a Ta-152 wreck to start a rebuild, then perhaps there will be a chance to use modern 3D scanning to get accurate measurements. It is a lot more difficult to conjure another example out of thin air.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
***** Which private collectors have stated that they wish to start a Ta-152? The major players with the money to undertake such a project haven't. The NASM has the only aircraft ID that survives in the world. There are no other known wrecks or IDs to start a project from at this time or until a wreck is found. Without an ID, they project doesn't exist.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
***** It is my understanding that model kit manufacturers have been given access to the Ta-152 on occasion for accurate measurements. There has been no Ta-152 rebuild activity outside of the NASM because they have the only surviving example. Regarding access to aircraft, you are correct that historically the NASM policy is to provide any blueprints they have upon request with the condition of signing a waiver that they are not to be used to construct a flying example. An aircraft ID is similar to a VIN number on a car and without it you don't have an aircraft. The NASM owns the only known surviving Ta-152 ID, so there would not be much activity elsewhere to build anything for a "complete" Ta-152. New 3D technology could be a game-changer for rapid prototyping to reconstruct new examples of various rare aircraft but so far this has only been applied to a few restorations including a Typhoon project in Canada.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
***** The replica Me-262s were only possible from a private restoration agreement with the US Navy to restore their original Me-262 and copy the parts for new-build examples. Original Me-262 production drawings were incomplete to use for construction They even copied a design flaw and had to correct it later with new engineering. The new Me-262s have a separate type designation from the originals, but they were "assigned" original serial numbers starting from the end of the WW2 production line. That Me-262 project began way back in 1993 long before modern 3D techniques that are available today for reverse engineering. It took a long time before they had flyable airframes.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
***** I would argue that the new-build Me-262s were easy compared with recreating a Ta-152 from scratch. They just recreated the airframe and hung a modernized power package on them, in essence creating a second-generation Me-262 that was given a new type designation by FAA. (Me-262A-1c, etc...) There is no equivalent solution for a Ta-152.
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 3 жыл бұрын
What are they, Jumos or DBs
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 3 жыл бұрын
+ Anthony Xuereb DB-603 engines.
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 3 жыл бұрын
@@FiveCentsPlease thanks for that
@stacylostcoast2751
@stacylostcoast2751 5 жыл бұрын
Немчура самолеты строить умела, красавец.
@Dilophomasnaurus
@Dilophomasnaurus 6 жыл бұрын
Does this aircraft still have functioning engines?
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 6 жыл бұрын
+masamune200 They should work but it is no longer rolled out and started. It needs some repairs inside to cockpit and electrics, and the prop tips that were cut off after a mishap need to be repaired or new props should be made for it.
@berndbrakemeier1418
@berndbrakemeier1418 5 жыл бұрын
So what do you believe seeing here?
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@spercepolnes21
@spercepolnes21 12 жыл бұрын
When was this?
@vczs
@vczs 10 жыл бұрын
Dat DB603.
@michalmilko8347
@michalmilko8347 9 жыл бұрын
In3x0rable DB605, isnt it?
@vczs
@vczs 9 жыл бұрын
Michal Milko Must be DB603 If I'm not mistaken or if they didn't change it.
@michalmilko8347
@michalmilko8347 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right, it has DB603
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 4 ай бұрын
Where is it now?
@classicreviews96180
@classicreviews96180 3 ай бұрын
Cosford Museum, UK.
12 жыл бұрын
...but you need two production lines for the engines then. It is effective, but is also very costly. Most piston and turboprop aircraft don't have counter-rotating engines.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 12 жыл бұрын
The aircraft has not flown and it is still on display. The engine runs are no longer performed either.
@saburusakai
@saburusakai 12 жыл бұрын
Where is this? Germany I assume? Strange that the props rotate the same way, since counter rotation (like P-38s) eliminates the torque.
@Priest57man
@Priest57man 6 жыл бұрын
saburu sakai it’s in whales
@andrewmorgan1819
@andrewmorgan1819 3 жыл бұрын
This was filmed at the former RAF Saint Athan museum in South Wales
@larrythorn4715
@larrythorn4715 6 жыл бұрын
Quite an interesting aircraft... I feel like if they had managed to somehow pull the perfected Me410 out of the bag in 1941 or 1942, and use it exclusively with single engine fighter cover, they might have had a rather high performance heavy dive bomber. Maybe even into 1943/44 it would have been good in that role. But sadly, not a fighter at all...
@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841
@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841 5 жыл бұрын
Not so much a fighter, but a "heavy fighter". Used for shooting down bombers.
@opoxious1592
@opoxious1592 8 жыл бұрын
Please, make it fly again
@taustin1977
@taustin1977 8 жыл бұрын
It is too rare of an aircraft to risk flying again.
@opoxious1592
@opoxious1592 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe, it's possible to make an exact replica of this plane some day
@WarbirdKid1940
@WarbirdKid1940 6 жыл бұрын
Thats what I thought. Maybe using Allison engines as substitutes.
@Slaktrax
@Slaktrax 6 жыл бұрын
It uses inverted V12 engines. Using Allisons or any other ''upright'' V12 would require too much re-engineering. @@WarbirdKid1940
@taustin1977
@taustin1977 5 жыл бұрын
@Craig Wooldridge it is still too rare of an aircraft to risk flying again because even "expert" pilots can make mistakes or something on the plane can fail.
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib 3 жыл бұрын
Bad bearing?
@buick1979
@buick1979 2 жыл бұрын
Superchargers I think ...... my race car have the same whine , but much smaller engine --- 😀
@gowron277a
@gowron277a 9 жыл бұрын
To bad about this bird. One of the more unsung warbird's, to bad they did not maintain her. It's probably to late for it as i'm sure it has sat and deteriorated. Beautiful plane though the 410.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 9 жыл бұрын
+gowron277a Doubtful that it will every fly again, and I understand that the cockpit and electrics are incomplete and were patched together to make it run. The things is, there are a decent amount of Luftwaffe restorations in progress and I could see that knowledge and interest being used to make the needed repairs and freshen up the plane (and at least repair the props that were squared off years ago.) But, again, they probably won't go flying with it in our lifetimes.
@gowron277a
@gowron277a 9 жыл бұрын
Would be quite a sight though.
@KB9813
@KB9813 12 жыл бұрын
20/12/89
@deetesmin
@deetesmin 4 жыл бұрын
DB605 engines?
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 3 жыл бұрын
+ Allan Davidson DB-603.
@annoyingbstard9407
@annoyingbstard9407 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the fan belt’s slipping.
@buick1979
@buick1979 2 жыл бұрын
supercharger sounds , my friend . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_603
@fw1421
@fw1421 8 жыл бұрын
Who has an airworthy Me410?🙀👍🏻
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 8 жыл бұрын
Nobody. Only two survivors worldwide, this one and another still in storage with the NASM.
@Schlipperschlopper
@Schlipperschlopper 6 жыл бұрын
Adolf Hitler :-)
@lucmoi8356
@lucmoi8356 3 жыл бұрын
sympa ...
@pierandreafrancini48
@pierandreafrancini48 3 жыл бұрын
💪💪💪💪👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 11 жыл бұрын
No. And engine runs are no longer conducted.
@83j049733rfe4
@83j049733rfe4 2 жыл бұрын
How does something so bad sound so fucking good? It can look good all it wants BUT WHY DOES IT HAVE TO SOUND EVEN BETTER?
@adolfhitler1615
@adolfhitler1615 8 жыл бұрын
pretty bird
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 12 жыл бұрын
DB603
@jukki10
@jukki10 8 жыл бұрын
Sound like the ball bearings have suffered from oil starvation and are grinding :(
@icancraftsomething
@icancraftsomething 4 жыл бұрын
nah the bf 410 just has real beefy superchargers
@ludo9234
@ludo9234 Жыл бұрын
Whilst its in one piece make a few copies to fly. Don't trust it to the yanks because there'll trash it it like the Dallas crash.
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease Жыл бұрын
+@ludo9234 There is another Me-410 in the storage area of the Smithsonian. Take a look at this one again and notice the squared-off propeller tips. At some point, the aircraft got tipped and some genius decided that the best way to deal with it was to just cut off the tips rather than fixing the prop. The cockpit and electronics are also gutted, so the Brits didn't really take care of this one either. I doubt there will ever be a 410 flying, but the newest 3D tools and manufacturing will make it much easier to rapid prototype and build parts to restore aircraft.
@romkaheinz3352
@romkaheinz3352 3 жыл бұрын
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