Measuring for a proper fitting C-Notch // How To

[@GarageFab]

Well done brother! I love love love visual explanations. Any confusion with numbers and terminology is eliminated when you can clearly see what's being explained.

[@scrapingpavement]

Thanks homie!🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@FORDLYFAOTEAROA]

Mini truckn ain't dead,because of awesome knowledge like this.

[@scrapingpavement]

Thank you, will try to continue the informative vids!

[@mazdamatt7703]

9:30 Came here because I’m poking out of the bed with my tire combo and wanted to learn more. Very well explained. Excited to execute.

[@scrapingpavement]

Right on! Happy to hear the video was helpful! Keep on truckn' ✌🏼

[@rgardner28]

Wow this video was awesome. I have yet to find anybody to explain how to find or get the measurements to do a c-notch. You nailed it bro. Thank you. I really needed this. Good job man, keep up the awesome content and keep on truckin!

[@scrapingpavement]

Thank you! Glad it was useful!! Keep on truckin' ✌🏼

[@bringmeyourweak]

Awesome method bro. I know you learned from experience because that is exactly the method I used with my Frontier build. I hope you continue this lesson with building the cantilever system, bag/strut wells etc. I think you could be on to something here for a series.. Not to mention the front end set up as well, bed drop etc. I know you have covered some of that in the past but I like the method you are using here. Perfect video man! Great job!

[@scrapingpavement]

Awesome thanks for the feed back, this seems to be doing fairly well so may continue!

[@Airplanefish]

Look this is valuable information to someone like me doing this for the first time. My kit has np instructions and no measurements for anything. I was going to give up on it until I saw this video. Now I only wish I could speak to you over the phone for more questions. Thank you for doing this video

[@backintogear9071]

Perfect timing... Just starting bagging project and was wondering this

[@joeingalls9553]

Very informative. Now I have a better understanding of how to set up my future notch. Thanks for the vid.

[@bo4638]

Man I love the explained how to videos, Thanks

[@codyadams667]

Thankyou started working on a b2200 needed to know this

[@frente2zapatista]

Really appreciate you sharing the knowledge. Quick question, how much bigger the notch needs for a bag over axle set up?

[@scrapingpavement]

You'll need to figure out the height of the bag on axle bracket. For example lets say your axle bracket sits the bottom most part of your bag 1" above your axle. Most bags squish to around 3" tall. So that means your top mount would be 4" above the top of the axle. One other thing to take in to consideration is the air bag fitting if you want to keep your line and fitting under the notch You'll want to add that number to your notch height. Last thing to enter into the equation is the hieght of the meat if the notch, most if the time its 3-4". Hope that helps a bit, need to upload some more videos on the other aspects.

[@frente2zapatista]

Perfect! I appreciate it.

[@papergatorzfedducca7998]

Here from GARAGE FAB!! Love the channel bro!! New subscriber!!!🔥🔥🔥

[@scrapingpavement]

Right on, appreciate it 🙏

[@firstnamelastnameisallowed7943]

I like it!! It's not a basic thing you just went over. I have seen SO many trucks that they get a notch and don't really relize that you don't need to use all of it. You can raise or lower it to whatever you need to height wise, to an extent of course. Proper install of a notch can make or break a project literally and figuratively speaking. one thing I wanted to just throw in there because I have seen this happen a bunch also is the axle does not travel straight up and down in a perfect line. It swings in an arching movent so when you cut your frame and final weld the notch in then you lay it out the first time and it hits the side of the notch...that's no good. Always measure twice, three times if need be, tack your stuff in place, and cycle it if you can to make sure it all works and is set up right before you burn it in!! Just a tip I have seen get done many times in people's driveways so be aware guys and pay attention to what your doing and whenever possible, practice on a friend's truck before yours!! Ha!! Just kidding...not really I ment that LoL

[@scrapingpavement]

Thanks for the comment! Deffintly agree with the additional point you make, Think i may go over that more in a proper link how to video. Setting a link system up at mid travel and proper geometry, to avoid excess back and forth travel. If set up properly an axle shouldn't travel forward and back more than 1/2" if not less, cant tell you how many trucks I see when they lay out the wheel sits super far forward in the well or super far forward at full lift. Hell when I bagged my first truck I was told to set parallel bars at "ride height" so I set it really low as I wanted to drive low, and after years of reading and research I found that not to be the case at all. Lots of improper knowledge out there, shit im still learning new things to this day lol. Thanks for the support!!

[@17mfan]

super easy to understand... well done sir.

[@scrapingpavement]

Awesome, happy to hear that 🤘🏼

[@LNGHRNS06]

Great video and the visual aids were awesome. Something to maybe add, the notch height can become a factor you're doing a bag over axle setup (using the notch for upper bag mounts) or using sleeve bags in the rear.

[@scrapingpavement]

Thanks for the input! Deffintly agree with ya, ill have to do a bag/mount variation video in the near future. Going to try to cover very specific topics per video so new guys don't get confused. Thanks for the support!

[@OperationRV]

I absolutely love the explanation and detail. Helped a lot.

[@GenesCustoms.]

Great instructional video. What thickness material do you use for the C notch? If it's already in the video I apologize didn't see it.

[@scrapingpavement]

Thank you, I use 3/16" steel

[@GenesCustoms.]

@@scrapingpavement Thanks for the info

[@itzamedave6242]

Great info and as always well explained absolutely not annoying at all great video Jake ✌️

[@Bakerbilt]

This video is friggin wicked. Great job man.

[@scrapingpavement]

Appreciate it 🙏

[@FORDLYFAOTEAROA]

Back here for round two

[@stephen295]

Can you DO A VIDEO OF FINDING & SETTING UP AXLE TUBE CENTERLINE TO LARGE NOTCH CENTERLINE .( STEPS of this process)? Where should you measure from ,back of frame to center of tube , half the tube then set center of notch above with plumb bob ? That kind of thing. I thought there should be MANY measurements taken including pinion angle etc... ? Planning a 54 Chevy car ( sedan) .

[@luisgonzales9369]

I have a 91 GMC Sonoma and there on 18 American racing rims I mite go bigger like 20s and doing research on the best way to do a c notch or get it customized looking into four links and I'm looking into air ride,slam brothers air management system

[@nathalycarney4015]

Thank you for the Knowledge and taking the time out to explain the process

[@scrapingpavement]

Thanks for the comment!

[@stboxing559]

I hope you read this lol I like your stuff bro and I have a question I recently bought a truck with a 4/6 drop it's sitting on stock tires and I was told it was c-notched so I was wondering if I can fit 24 inch rims with a low profile tire on my truck without having to tub it?

[@0BobRoss0]

Can you use this method if you have just a frame and suspension or do you need to factor in the “weighted height” with body and driveline?

[@scrapingpavement]

If the frame will be bagged or juiced this method will work, if its static on coils or leafs you'll need to factor in the weight or add the approximate weight to the frame via sand bags, ect.

[@josenarvaez5338]

Thanks for the video man. I did the measurements like you said and I need a 6.5 notch that’s if I want to laid the frame. But I don’t want that. I want to be like 3” or 4” from the floor, so I just subtract the 3 or 4 “ from the 6.5 🤷🏾‍♂️ TIA

[@davidhagadorn8648]

Thanks for the video. Really great presentation!

[@scrapingpavement]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@pepperiv5652]

Is there a standard angle you use on your notches?

[@scrapingpavement]

Ya almost all my notches are 70°

[@pepperiv5652]

@@scrapingpavement Thanks! Keep up the great content Homie!

[@DinasGarage]

This is great Jake! This is a great series to make video on. “Starter tips” or something along those lines. More videos like this!! So the bed floor would need to come up 5.5 inches?

[@scrapingpavement]

Thank you! Give or take depending on the actual height of the new notch. In this scenario I would raise the bed 6" to give enough room for shiming if needed to make sure the bed is lined up properly.

[@loretomacadaegjr3310]

So this is if you want to lay frame. What about othe trucks that have the frame higher than the body? Instead of frame to ground, i just use body to ground measurements? Just making sure

[@scrapingpavement]

Ya just take whatever measurement you want your lowest point to be so instead of the frame on the ground.

[@lowsociety8621]

If I relocate the shocks how do I know what schocks to use? Do I go with stock height shocks? Or do I buy some drop shocks?

[@scrapingpavement]

I prefer to use an oem replacment shock, so its easy to get a replacment at any autoparts store. I would stay away from a drop shock as it will have less stroke and for air suspension you want to make sure theres enough stroke to be able to cycle the suspension fully.

[@lowsociety8621]

@@scrapingpavement thanks this really helped alot 🤝🏼

[@AgSherr]

Lol...I took an 8" Notch to the guy that Bagged my P'up...yeah, he cut that skunch down. I just trusted him and he was right. But, I haven't raised my Bed floor nor do I want to. Suffice it to say, I have tub rub. I also need to stiffen that bed hopping. Great Video, Kind Sir! #SquadetteOutForNow #MiniTruckinAintDead

[@ScottysDetailing]

Great video love the info, thanks for sharing.

[@millsb1219]

This was much needed, thank you boss

[@Will_my65gmc]

Cool episode! Good job! 👍

[@scrapingpavement]

🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@michaelwhite-oi1ft]

Always add the inch for when the front is up and the back is down. 😊

[@rafatrill]

Does anyone know how to calculate axle travel to make sure c notch is centered when it's bagged laying frame?

[@scrapingpavement]

Air suspension design book has a great overview on this topic. Its called "sagitta" you calculate it based off your link bar length and the stroke of your suspension. Theres some other key aspects that are involved but thats a brief summary.

[@rafatrill]

@@scrapingpavement yeah everyone told me it's setup with the 4 link and to just center the c notch to either ride height or the original location of axle.

[@iamthemaninde]

AWESOME video

[@El-Patron-1O24]

Thanks for the informative video man 🤟🤟

[@CTRMichael]

What about the Australian flow notch?

[@scrapingpavement]

Same concept, just covering the basic notch as most people use em.

[@CTRMichael]

@@scrapingpavement thought I would just quiz you on that. Stay safe bud

[@baazigaj9125]

I am trying to understand why the notch, especially the drop towards the back of the notch.why not just the front raise of the notch and the horizontal part till the endof frame?

[@scrapingpavement]

This style of notch is the most commonly used style. The style you are referring too is more like a frame "Z" which people do as well but usually requires a complete bed floor raise. This style allows you to bolt the bed down in the back using the oem mounts. It all comes down to personal preference, money, and time.

[@Mike-lc4gn]

Thanks this helps a ton.!!!!

[@scrapingpavement]

My pleasure, happy this helped out!

[@kyan8503]

Ur vids are the best

[@scrapingpavement]

Thank you 🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@scotholmes]

Great job

[@ioiwut4874]

so is this CAD aided CAD? or CAD aided by CAD?

[@scrapingpavement]

Lmao 🤣

[@vanetteleighty4685]

Awesome video, thanks, I have a s10 frame with a 50 Chevy body , I’m new to the scene,, plan on laying running boards, and this is what I needed.

[@TxStang]

Good info , thanks !

[@quinnliberatore7218]

Am I missing something .. the frame sits 7” Off the ground. The top of axle to bottom of frame is 3” (was already lowered). With current tire package and same wheels, needs 4” notch plus some extra for bags etc …. Why do we need centre measurements etc , or measure frame to ground…. Frame To axel is an easier measurement to get

[@georgeburch1479]

You will be guy I buy my notch n stuff for when I get another truck

[@ryanthall5857]

sent from garage fab

[@PZ-yx3mv]

Awesome video! Did you make/cut your own c notches?

[@scrapingpavement]

Thank you, yep there made in house.

[@PZ-yx3mv]

@@scrapingpavement you sell custom cut ones?

[@steeldrivercustoms6920]

Good stuff

[@toycelica185]

Thank bro🤚🏻✌🏻

[@liftedcj7on44s]

I just cut the frame off in front of the axle, who needs that anyway.

[@scrapingpavement]

Haha that's it?! Shoulda cut it off at the fire wall lol.

[@regular_mfkr]

🤜🏼🤛🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@jkwondo6015]

😎🤙🏽

[@thatrandome7205]

❤️❤️

[@lgh1157]

This rules

[@michaelwhite-oi1ft]

That's NOT a C notch. That's a step notch. A C notch is an a fual C shaped piece of pipe. The step notch looks like......a step.

[@limedime03]

Very well explained and demonstrated, thank you this makes it super simple since you didn’t most of the math for us. Limedime03

[@scrapingpavement]

Thanks for the feedback! Happy to hear it helped 🤘🏼🤘🏼