MECHA BASE VS WAR MACHINE | SHOWCASE + COMPARISON (FT. SinisterPumpkin) -Tower Defense Simulator

[@CORSOBLOX]

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[@gilbert6736]

I wanted to say something you forgot war machine doesn’t have hidden detection

[@Scoutgoals]

Your voice was much deeper before.

[@tommykeller7992]

Bro is a better version of my math teacher😂

[@InfiniteYūki]

He is Da best Math teacher

[@Kautsar-2]

Hes graduated from Harvard probably

[@Kai-eo1le]

True

[@Markdmiski]

Lol

[@FrancoPugliese-c9o]

​@@Kautsar-2no he graduated Harvard

[@brendanliew9598]

There is something I must say: The mecha base price is so cheap because its currently using the medics stats, its currently not a finished tower. When the mecha base is actually available the devs said major changes would be made.c

[@Yeetv1]

If I were to guess, these are how the stats work. - Mecha base still will cost 5k - level 1 Mark I with rocket/faster time will cost 750. - level 2 Mark II will cost 3k - level 3 Mark III will cost 10k - level 4 Mark IV will cost 24k and will have 35 range instead of 100 - level 5 Mark V will cost 35k and will have 45 range instead of 100. - Total cost 77,750 - placement limit of 4 and will cost 3.5k gems

[@nate1567]

knowing paradoxum the gem cost might be above 5k if the engineer was like 4.5k

[@nate1567]

4 or 5 placement limit is likely

[@porokking1984]

​@@nate1567 in hardcore beta, the mecha base costed 3500 gem to unlock

[@EmpyreusAwakening]

@@nate1567 thats because engineer is a jack of all trades tower, its good in every stage of the game and can counter nearly every enemy in the game

[@raiserincoming]

Sinister W for finding an admin for this banger vid 🔥

[@CORSOBLOX]

he clutched up

[@Gooberygoober]

for those who didnt know, the war machine was actually the old accelerator. you can see war machines image in the old upgrades of accel.

[@lukizard9625]

I really want them balance these 2 towers and release them for gems. Also fun fact mecha base uses medics icons and upgrade costs that's why it's so cheap

[@TheFsWorx]

lazy ass hell., every assest and event happens in here creams desperate

[@Sashin-d8t]

I swear to god if mecha base costs more than 2500 gems Im leaving tds

[@crreator1016]

I mean if its as good as it is now, it should cost more then engi def​@@Sashin-d8t

[@leiraollibo3726]

​@@Sashin-d8tDawg mecha base has a sick design and its gonna get better damage it makes sense why they put it probably more than accel and engineer

[@Sashin-d8t]

@@leiraollibo3726 If it is buffed maybe I will buy it

[@speedyduckling]

5:44 to put into perspective how broken this cost efficiency is, the best CE in the game is level 1 ace pilot. CE is measured by doing (dps)/(total cost), so lower is better. assuming it's constantly attacking, level 1 ace has a CE of around 59. other than ace, level 0 golden scout has the best CE, with it being around 120. now, level 3 war machine buffing 80 max golden minigunners has a CE of around 9.2 (7900/851)

[@FenuGaming]

8:47 bro is so good in montage that he light up the subscribe button😂

[@SinisterPumpkin]

Banger video

[@CORSOBLOX]

banger collab

[@WhippedCreamoSaurus]

Thanks for the free info on towers we don’t know about.

[@gaiksee4288]

Give war machine a price decrease or stat buffs. I think they should buff the dps to like 340+ and give 25-35%dmg buff to nearby tower at max level.

[@NaturalTheThing]

Someone: My math teacher knows math the most! Corso: are u sure about that

[@Henry-ed8fq]

Awesome vid! best tds yt

[@CORSOBLOX]

Thanks!

[@nicknick493]

I feel like war machine is better in modes like polluted wastelands 2, hardcore, or events because you can somewhat reasonably afford it. And even if commander is better, in multiplayer the 20% damage buff would be insane considering how many ranger, pursuit, accels, ect there will probably be on the map and it still does good damage; however, the price is still the biggest burden. Like you said, it's a pretty bad choice to bring it in solo or any regular game like fallen because it's just too expensive and a 10% damage buff just isnt needed or worth it as much. So I feel like overall mecha base is still better considering its range and dps makes it do like 200+ dps throughout the entire map, 5k collison, and mid game breaking potential but war machine definitely has its moments.

[@SauI_Goodman]

you forgot how cheap the mecha base is. it's currently using medic's upgrade costs, but that would change in the future.

[@Tank-ox6ik]

Guys I had an admin in my game that had WAR MACHINE AND MECHA BASE!! Like I was so shocked

[@Burlapyui]

Tbh war machine only needs an animation and it's good to go for public, mecha base on the other hand is op , it needs a health and damage nerf plus for each mecha base only one unit is allowed in the battlefield like mil base and the only compasate buff is that unlike others it stops moving entirely at a certain point and deals damage through the artillery it poses and it becomes a road block for the enemies

[@Kneecaptain]

ngl they should make war machine have a giant gun like gold mini and have 2 rockets beside it

[@bigboi6323]

But the cost of the final upgrade should go down

[@DamianVetrici-r3f]

Nah hear me out they release mecha base for 6000 gems and they nerf max to 200 dps and 3500 health and change spawn time to 40 seconds and it’s good to go

[@DamianVetrici-r3f]

And make max like 44k

[@sharkpro9282]

Ur content is very enjoyable! I love it.

[@CORSOBLOX]

Thanks! glad you enjoy it 👍

[@TheTophatterOfTophatsOfficial]

Great collab!

[@battle7309]

Nice video maybe see what tower is best for the early game?(not including gladiator)

[@TheStalkeRuuuuuus1]

Lvl 1 soldier can carry even fallen waves on easy map

[@namemyisjoenot2770]

Gold scout

[@yinghannong]

Accel: So you give a damage buff right? War Machine: Yes. Accel: Ok, then try killing these. *Soul Bosses come out of the portal* War Machine: What's a Soul Boss?!! Game system: Y O U L O S T L O L

[@OscarZheng50]

What does war machine giving a damage buff have to do with killing enemies, its damage buff is already quite an asset. the max level ranger's damage can be increased by 90 from 450 to 540 and when boosted by the commander, its like a lot better for one ranger. And the damage buff on the accel is op too, the 20% boost only boosts it by a few damage but the accel fires super quick so that little damage buff will be significant

[@yinghannong]

@@OscarZheng50 If we take the 55% CTA boost + 20% DMG boost of a Lvl.5 War Machine + the average DPS of a Lvl.5 Accelerator, we get a DPS of 555.56. Here's the formula btw: [(Highest Damage + Lowest Damage) ÷ 2 × (Burst Time/Tick)] ÷ (Charge-Up + Burst Time + Cooldown) [(42 + 30) ÷ 2 × (12/0.0486)] ÷ (2 + 12 + 2)

[@OscarZheng50]

@@yinghannong and 8 accels with coa will do 4,444.48 dps, still less than 36 golden minis with coa which do 5850

[@yinghannong]

@@OscarZheng50 Ok, but what if you're playing on a map where you can't place 36 GMinis in an area? So I believe 8 max Accels would be better in this case. (I hate the new circle boxes)

[@OscarZheng50]

@@yinghannong most maps can accommodate 36 golden minis, the maps are designed to be big enough to fit 80 towers if your playing squads and everyone places their max

[@mastercanabic9155]

You shoud try Mechs V Kaijus, a true hardcore tower defense game! I can get you a key for sure, I know the solo dev!

[@longlessgaming4140]

This video Is soo cool

[@Blued2027]

pro video as usual 👍

[@basicallyflee6855]

this is too much math my brain is overheating thanks for reviewing these 2 amazing towers

[@infinate_gaming]

Can u do a 20 min video going over all the optimal levels for each obtainable tower( including event towers tho) basically a compilation

[@thomasalldredge3615]

Love the vids!

[@CORSOBLOX]

glad you like them 🙏

[@randomaccount3828]

They really be adding new towers like elf camp but cant finish making mecha base and balance war machine (war machine still has no animation)

[@ForestedKingdom]

I didn’t even know you were friends with sinister pumpkin 🙀 you 2 are some of my favorite tds KZbinrs

[@CORSOBLOX]

yessir 🤝🤝

[@rapidfirevestige]

war machine getting rework so it can be add into game as a hardcore tower i hope mecha base comes next(i think they should make it slightly more expensive)

[@Speddicus-Maximus]

Bro that discord sound had me thinking I was going crazy then I realized it was from the vid

[@duckfromfortnite]

the fact that level 2 war machine had around 14 base damage in the past is wild. (thats around 140 dps)

[@WhosCharlie_0]

is this the sequal to the yt short i commented on?

[@CORSOBLOX]

yes of course

[@reresthyyaAA]

Wow couldn't believe you guys collabs on one video you guys are new Tds KZbinrs but already collabs Bonus:i was knew this at CORSO X SinisterPumpkin video but i late💀

[@cherylharper7904]

I had a ratio test today and all I had in my head was “cost ratio of 69 dps per 1k spent”

[@Mr_KitKat]

can you do electroshocker vs warden

[@hoodiestickmanquindecillion]

I ending up learning math when I was trying to see mechs base and war machine stats

[@minisasa134]

I bet goat blue head making video on accel rn 🗿

[@RippedKangaroo14]

I’ve heard that war machine may get a rework, but damn mecha is op

[@hadijahabutazil9132]

How it's a admin tower why does it need a rework

[@virturegd5247]

@@hadijahabutazil9132all admin towers eventually get released to the public

[@TriggerzConnors]

Farming mecha base while solo requires a good brain without a single mistake. Place golden scouts for early defend Place farm, upgrade lvl 1, place another farm, upgrade lvl 1, wait until your money reached 550, upgrade lvl2 2 farms, place 1 farm, upgrade to lvl 1 and 2, upgrade 3 farms to lvl 3, wait until you reached 5k and then you place mecha base.

[@Xtraorditty]

That just means you need 400+ health😂

[@TriggerzConnors]

@@Xtraorditty not fallen just molten.

[@RandoDudle]

bro is so goated

[@snmheinzketchup9870]

Great video, keep it up

[@CORSOBLOX]

thank you 🙏

[@Smango1]

nostalgia is really cool lets go

[@getbluespheres3k]

gotta appreciate the AI voice that sinisterpumpkin uses

[@mist5791]

i would still take both of them if i had the opportunity

[@1duck562]

W video

[@CORSOBLOX]

Thanks!

[@pizza8725]

Imo mecha is better than war machine but not bc war machine is weak(imo it's quite balanced as it does a lot of dps plus it gives buffs) but bc mecha base is way to underpriced(like i think it should cost around war machine to max)

[@Xtraorditty]

I agree but also don't Mecha base should be 10k below the war machine overall price like it's just too expensive for war machine to max

[@Smartplatinum-bu8kb]

Mark 5 you can spam with a admin spawn unit command War machine can be no tower limit command and place a lot of them So both are great paired with commands but war machine inf spam can be better

[@pinkgaminghq6127]

where did the afk gold/hardcore videos go?

[@arandom_dude5388]

man after relooking at these towers, the war machine is so outclass to the current tower in the game even to weakest late game dps like the miniguner and get outclass by a tower only meant for crowd control which is mortar

[@turks8020]

He's teaching us life lessons For tds that is

[@ZaroshVictorino-rb2xm]

How can you calculate dps with fire rate and damage?

[@zakgonnaattack]

Yooooo who is hyped for his rework analysis

[@FelixBlooStaffOLD]

I'll get to the point: buffs numbers/percentages cannot be compared but the type of buffs could. Remember this for future comparisons!

[@Xtraorditty]

Yes! The damage buff for low damage towers does like nothing if it's like 1 damage it might not boost but if it's something like ranger it's extremely damage buff

[@ProfessionalKGBAgent]

War machine is like cowboy. Commander that can shoot continuously. You still better off using commander tho. But I guess you could make both commander and war machine stack. If they release War Machine to public, they HAVE to buff it

[@FerretsForever34]

3:57 "Theven thousand nine hundred cash"

[@tapgames3465]

Dang already uploaded in discord

[@pepepepitoperez3967]

The war machine is being added as a HC tower

[@machamp2851]

Now that the mercenary base is here i think mercenary base is like war machine combined with mecha base

[@specific_11]

corso best

[@Brain142]

I like how he says all this when it doesn’t even matter because we can’t get the towers. Still cool video

[@immuno9015]

the War Machine would actually be somewhat balanced if released in modern TDS in my opinion

[@plampalmer]

I want a mecha base rework because I want the devs to make the mecha design not a damn zed on legs

[@Storydic]

Tbh war machine is pretty good tower for ranger at this moment (december 2023) the ranger has 1125 dmg at max lvl, war machine 20% dmg buff could add 225 dmg to the rangers dmg per shot.

[@Xtraorditty]

Lemme be honest if there is bosses with more health war machine we be a HUGE help due to buff us op

[@foottingthaiusa]

I think War machine. the best tower if you're using as a Support. Which is the one I wanted?

[@clockworksTC2]

Bro is better then most school teachers

[@sebastiangreniuk8060]

why is nobody talking about mark 6?

[@stevenpho3562]

War machine needs a price decrease and a placement limit of 2 because it’s only useful for the damage buff

[@Duc_Nguyen-d4v]

I saw the war machine in the old crossroad map

[@horriblediobtww]

bro your a tds math teacher W guy respect

[@mamluksultanateball]

New accel buff is here no random damage i rhink it has now 400 dps atleast

[@Henry-ed8fq]

a youtuber who replies to comments :O absolute w's

[@CORSOBLOX]

yessir 🤝🤝

[@minisasa134]

At this point Corso is the new lordbiggesthead

[@CORSOBLOX]

he still my son tho 💯

[@minisasa134]

@@CORSOBLOX W

[@incnsstncy]

im pretty sure the mecha base can collide with flying enemies as well

[@ikeweidman749]

Yay

[@Mr_BLACK133]

i fr chek my ds bro cuz of the sound man

[@gabrielgumapo]

Who noticed that War machine is the only smiley face guy rn:

[@Aarav863]

how long does it take to read all the comments?

[@CORSOBLOX]

not long, I check pretty often 👍

[@masonlees]

Accel rework: Hold my DPS

[@Teoloder]

I made some maths, so let's get a tower that has 10 DMG per 0.1 seconds, 100 DPS If we take comander's 55% firerate buff, then its firerate will be 0.045, which will have a 222 DPS ! But if we take war machine's damage buff (10%) it will have 110 DPS, or if we take 20% we will have 120 DPS Comander is both cheaper, and stronger! So yeah, there you have it

[@Nick-rn8bp]

0:15 I thought I had an actual Discord Ping

[@4beesTV]

War machine can stay dev exclusive But mecha base should be in game imo

[@MemeRaiders-ex6sy]

Its the mecha base because my use to be admin friend told me and showed me

[@leosmith8580]

i legit thougt that somebody wrote me on discord as "big balls" spammed him

[@leosmith8580]

got me laughing so hard

[@SpooktacularGames]

Corso shoulder pal? Real or Fake?

[@CORSOBLOX]

coming up 💯

[@mo642.0l]

If they add war machine they should make it wayyy cheaper

[@tysonbot0914]

Zed with legs vs commando but as good as accelerator

[@alparllt747]

the tds Wiki after seeing this video: Noted

[@sssunmugen]

cant wait mecha base as hardcore tower

[@CORSOBLOX]

same, but it would definitely be more balanced

[@mrreed9323]

I got the blue head too

[@Ben_B.826]

I saw you in a game yesterday, so many people begging you to friend them lol

[@2MLG434U]

sinisterpumpkin's opinions don't count so overall good video

[@Nah277]

My brain hurt and go boom boom but no seriously bruh

[@samuelbernaldez6671]

Is understand 3 supports in the same loadout is hard to bring, but like... teammates exist. 🤷🤷

[@Xtraorditty]

It's not good but it is a good choice to solo hardcore it would be (farm,commander, war machine,accel, engineer)I guess engineer for early

[@EpicDestr0yer]

Mecha base is basically zed with legs

[@ImposterCookie331]

There is issue with mecha base. And it's path unit tower which are pretty much worst tower type in tds. If it destroyed it no longer does dps. And gotta wait for whole minute which by that time many other towers would ended up doing more dps. It would been good tower in earlier version but it's current stats are outdated. Where we got 3 modes enemies gets high hp. Especially on Polluted Wasteland where mecha base health sustainability gets quickly non existent.

[@Xtraorditty]

You can put 4 and by the time the mecha dies another spawned

[@ImposterCookie331]

@@Xtraorditty but still very easily destroyed.

[@tomasmartinezcalvo9233]

i mean war machine is good and all but 75K FOR ITS LVL 5 UPGRADE IS INSANE THATS LIKE 4 MAX MECHA BASES AND A LVL LIKE 3 ONE

[@Xtraorditty]

I agree! Dude why is it so expensive

[@ckpro2010]

But ranger gets 200 extra dmg a shot thats gota be better than commanders boost

[@Yachiryo]

Admin tower go brrrr

[@TopHat994penguin]

Why do the developers work on towers that they don't even care about :(