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Mechanical vs Myoelectric prosthetics - chat with Open Bionics

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Ian Davis

Ian Davis

Күн бұрын

Since April is Limb Loss and Limb Difference awareness month I had a chat with Joel Gibbard, CEO at Open Bionics about how far the prosthetics industry has come and where it’s going.
The team at Open Bionics custom-build 3d printed myoelectric arms for below elbow amputees. They work with some cool partners including Disney, Konami, Fox, and Eidos-Montréal. If you want to find out more about the Hero Arm discussed in this video, here’s the website: openbionics.co...
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@yetanotherlookstothemoon
@yetanotherlookstothemoon 3 жыл бұрын
This man in 5 years: hi guys today I build a rocket tlauncher for my prostetic hand
@AlaskaSkidood
@AlaskaSkidood 3 жыл бұрын
Ya! I can't wait for the Colin Furze/Ian Davis colab!
@assasinpatates8066
@assasinpatates8066 3 жыл бұрын
ha ha ha ha... what an original joke. you can be sure that i didn't see this joke in every damn Ian Davis video comment section. how did you come up with such an ingenius joke? i'm really amazed.
@yetanotherlookstothemoon
@yetanotherlookstothemoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@assasinpatates8066 ye
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to make it to the EU for that opportunity.
@Hydrogoniise
@Hydrogoniise 3 жыл бұрын
Ian did make a wrist-mounted chainsaw a few months back, so it's not completely out of the realm of possibility.
@janfrancoelchikapu
@janfrancoelchikapu 3 жыл бұрын
You really deserve more... More everything. Be more known, have more and better founds and overall you can make the world a better place.
@NeonWasInUse
@NeonWasInUse 3 жыл бұрын
for real tho. Yeah I go "haha funny gunslinger joke" but like, this is genuinely awesome! This dude *needs* more recognition!
@janfrancoelchikapu
@janfrancoelchikapu 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeonWasInUse absolutely. I also came for the cyberpunk/the terminator hand meme, but i found that Ian has the power, capacity, and the will to make things WAY bigger than his ash from the undead chainsaw prosthetic hand. In this video he is literally teaching the CEO of another prosthetic device why his own creation is better. I really damn wish some big fish meets Ian and makes him bigger
@SuperMegaLamp
@SuperMegaLamp 3 жыл бұрын
There are people that might try to find info on him and spread it. It's better you do it discreetly rather than in the open.
@shreklol960
@shreklol960 3 жыл бұрын
He's not going to make any public designs tho
@israelgarcia7269
@israelgarcia7269 3 жыл бұрын
More fingers..... Seriously though, this guy doesn't get what he deserves. If he was funded and promoted the way he deserves, I think he could make some serious waves in the prosthetics industry.
@JKTCGMV13
@JKTCGMV13 3 жыл бұрын
Whether or not the words are being exaggerated, the fact that the insurance denied prosthetics is definitely showing by their actions that they do think fingers are a luxury... terrible
@sleepingbag2424
@sleepingbag2424 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing example of how all of the United States works
@ohstyleebrecht
@ohstyleebrecht 3 жыл бұрын
@@sleepingbag2424 even in places with public health insurance that's how it works. Lims,theeth,hearing,eyesight They are all considered non essential to a point. And even then you're lucky if you get partial coverage on eny device or aid
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
and then the amount of flack that I got for trying to build my own device. At one time my case worker was like well since you are building one for yourself, you don't need one from us. I was so pleased when after a pile of appeals that they finally agreed to supply me with a device.
@plneet3504
@plneet3504 3 жыл бұрын
@@sleepingbag2424 It's really retarded when you pay like $600 a month and yet won't get the service that you were promised. Like the whole medical field in the US is over inflanted legit surgerys taking over a million dollars and it's assumed you have insurance that will cover 80% in which you still pay 200k it's insane
@pacman10182
@pacman10182 3 жыл бұрын
@@plneet3504 it used to be far better than that, before a certain "health care" bill was passed in 2010
@outandabout259
@outandabout259 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that after saying electronic prosthetics are slow you grabbed your own hand and flexed with its speed for the rest of the video... Open, close, open, close, grab a can, wave here and there, doing stuff with speed and accuracy that users of an electronic hand can only dream of.
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
it is really quite a stark difference in performance and speed. when you see me out in the real world, I've had people that I'm talking to forget that I'm an amputee after talking and watching me for a few minutes.
@Gaia_Gaistar
@Gaia_Gaistar 3 жыл бұрын
@@missingpartsclub That's the goal, innit? It's so fluid it just becomes a part of you. I love this kind of stuff.
@ashurean
@ashurean 3 жыл бұрын
There's something to be said for trying to blend each style into something that has the benefits of both.
@randygaming5134
@randygaming5134 3 жыл бұрын
"Fingers are a luxury" *When they lose fingers* "Fingers and limbs are a fundamental need of every human being"
@MrJolte
@MrJolte 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you worry, they won't change a thing, they got enough money to buy their entire family a set of extra limbs.
@Asocial-Canine
@Asocial-Canine 3 жыл бұрын
"Fingers are a luxury" sounds like something a villain would say before cutting them off in a torture chamber, not an insurance company
@outcast4087
@outcast4087 3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, at this point, insurance companies are villains themselves.
@mr_unknown_man5050
@mr_unknown_man5050 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, there was a difference?
@rrs_13
@rrs_13 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I checked, insurance companies are one of the most wicked business in the world. I was 10 years in court because my company wouldn't pay a bumper and a grill in a simple rush hour stop-n-go traffic colision (two years of my car insurance would cover in excess said expense). If I ever get a chance, I will always choose to debilitate an insurance company or a bank (same crap, banks own insurance companies) whatever the way.
@Gaia_Gaistar
@Gaia_Gaistar 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Nestle trying to trademark water.
@rrs_13
@rrs_13 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanTuts Netherlands. Free. 😂 leuke grap, vriend! It's compulsory to have a health insurance in the Netherlands, and it sure is neither free nor cheap, and the income taxes are still very high! That's a very important detail to omit when you try to boast about getting health coverage "for free".
@bloodsuckinflea
@bloodsuckinflea 3 жыл бұрын
Insurance companies... I tell you. Fingers are a luxury? What?!
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
That was a tough letter to receive at the time. but in the same, it did start me on my current path.
@bloodsuckinflea
@bloodsuckinflea 3 жыл бұрын
@@missingpartsclub I recently met someone who started an engineering business because he lost his home in a fire (edit: to save costs on windstorm certification). I love hearing making lemonade from lemons type stories. You're a true inspiration!
@coobk
@coobk 3 жыл бұрын
@@bloodsuckinflea *insert cave johnson lemons rant*
@bloodsuckinflea
@bloodsuckinflea 3 жыл бұрын
@@coobk xD
@anthonygarcia5375
@anthonygarcia5375 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking insurance exactly what I expect damn
@jamescloud18
@jamescloud18 3 жыл бұрын
From one engineer to another, I always love to watch the development of your prosthetic hand
@NeonWasInUse
@NeonWasInUse 3 жыл бұрын
as an aspiring engineer, couldn't agree more!
@occamsrazor9183
@occamsrazor9183 3 жыл бұрын
You need more innovative collaborations like this, these prosthetics can be so much more optimized...
@cooldud7071
@cooldud7071 3 жыл бұрын
They already are, consumer prothetics are nothing compared to the bionics they have in research labs. If you're talking about optomizing consumer prosthetics though then you're right.
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
true, but what works great in the lab often fails in real world applications.
@cooldud7071
@cooldud7071 3 жыл бұрын
@@missingpartsclub For the most part, yes, but these prosthetics are being optimized for the rigors of day to day life. Of course, it's all riculously expensive, so while they may have hands that exceed human capability, in things like grip force or 360 degree movement, they are out of reach for the average person, so for the time being, people will be sticking to the ones that are still available.
@Hydrogoniise
@Hydrogoniise 3 жыл бұрын
They told you fingers were a luxury and you went on to create some of the most luxurious fingers I've ever seen.
@doubtingthomas1312
@doubtingthomas1312 3 жыл бұрын
This man should be given everything he needs, to continue his research. That was horrible for them to say, "fingers are luxury".
@gibbethoskins8621
@gibbethoskins8621 3 жыл бұрын
Pure evil, pure greed.
@nicholeedgerton1387
@nicholeedgerton1387 3 жыл бұрын
Hiya I was injured by a point blank gun shot from a hollow point 3.57 although the gun was pressed to my temple I lifted my arm and put it between my head and the gun before he pulled the trigger although they were Able to save my arm it is useless from the elbow down and sport a very vicious looking scar but had I not done that I'd have lost my life. I used to joke around saying that I wish they had taken my arm at the hospital because then I would have a stump that I could fit attachments to like a fork or a fishing pole or screw driver. The first time I saw one of your videos I became very emotional. I think what you do is beautiful. Giving people the hope and ability to become functional after losing limbs is beautiful thing. I watch every one of your videos I think you are not only a genius but incredibly inspirational for people that probably have felt their lives were over. You have a wonderful spirit and mind and I give thanks every time one of your posts come up that you have been able to grace this world with your ideas inventions and strength of spirit. Thank you Ian for being you I as always eagerly await your post and updates please don't ever stop.
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words they really do mean a lot to me. my dad read your comment and told me about it , I felt compelled to go through all of the comments, to find yours just so that I could comment back to you. thank you.
@nicholeedgerton1387
@nicholeedgerton1387 3 жыл бұрын
@@missingpartsclub thats way cool I feel famous. Or something like it. I am not sure why I get so emotional when I see your videos healing emotionally still I imagine. But I watch every single one of your videos even if I don't have a clue what your talking about. However that might make me sound. It would be so cool if you made a swiss army knife prosthetic just for shits and giggles. But no matter what just keep posting. People still care and like I said even if I don't quite understand all the technical mumbo jumbo I watch you because I love the way your spirit shines.
@nicholeedgerton1387
@nicholeedgerton1387 3 жыл бұрын
Also hi ian's dad thank you so much
@M_Deez
@M_Deez 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who likes to draw and likes to play the guitar I have a fear of losing my arms or fingers, but your videos make me feel like theres a future where prosthetics will become a natural replacement for lost limbs and such.
@okruzal2603
@okruzal2603 3 жыл бұрын
I hope, that in 5-10 years he will upload a video and say: Hi guys today I built whole Iron-Man exosceleton.
@assasinpatates8066
@assasinpatates8066 3 жыл бұрын
ha ha ha ha... what an original joke. you can be sure that i didn't see this joke in every damn Ian Davis video comment section. how did you come up with such an ingenius joke? i'm really amazed.
@ihaznoname6292
@ihaznoname6292 3 жыл бұрын
@@assasinpatates8066 The irony in this comment is the fact that you copy pasted this from your own previous comment, lol.
@assasinpatates8066
@assasinpatates8066 3 жыл бұрын
@@ihaznoname6292 I intended to copy paste this comment onto every stupid comment but there were only 2 at the time. Thanks for reminding me to copy paste to others.
@studyboy454
@studyboy454 3 жыл бұрын
Bro alex labs is already doing that
@Chris-hd3yc
@Chris-hd3yc 3 жыл бұрын
As an amputee and mechanical engineer I'm extremely impressed with your skills brother! I only lost half my foot when I was t-boned on a bike, not fingers, but I still understand the struggles and I just want to thank you for the videos. Put a bunch of ideas in my head for a foot prosthetic.
@nine9nine9
@nine9nine9 3 жыл бұрын
I love the mechanical version of the prosthetic so much. The noise and just the aesthetic of it is incredible. Thank you so much for sharing this with us!
@nocultist7050
@nocultist7050 3 жыл бұрын
I have all limbs but this topic is close to my heart.
@-NGC-6302-
@-NGC-6302- 3 жыл бұрын
Him mentioning a potentially elbow-driven design got me wondering if a complicated mechanical prosthetic like the hand would even be able to be made
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
It would, but you are constrained by the motion of 1 axis, then you would need to select another function, then drive it. Unless of course you had isolated control of 2 separate motions.
@yamilcoloma6677
@yamilcoloma6677 3 жыл бұрын
You finnaly got the money from the insurance company just to stash the hand somewhere and use you own prosthetic. Respect
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
It also allowed me to use the fitting and fabrication process as an impromptu job interview. I did get an interview with Hugh Gill from ossur, but sadly it didn't go any further than the interview.
@yamilcoloma6677
@yamilcoloma6677 3 жыл бұрын
@@missingpartsclub I can relate to that, been looking for a job on IT día while
@zion6680
@zion6680 2 жыл бұрын
Man Ian's prosthetic is just in a whole different league playing a different game cause it's partial hand prosthetic and not reliant on 3d printed parts and not meant to be slim and subtle. The prosthetics available today are so cool and game changing for amputees. But this man's work is special. I feel like I'm looking at a custom made chopper or highly tuned sports car made for a very specific driver. Kind of reminds me of Dexter's Laboratory in that one episode where Dexter makes his dad a cool robot arm to arm wrestle this trucker with. Absolutely radical lol
@peterrogatiiii7619
@peterrogatiiii7619 3 жыл бұрын
I did a whole semester research project for a college class around affordable vs. sophisticated prosthetics because of Ian’s videos. I have no doubts about his insurance company not covering the cost. Prosthetics is a big business that’s needs to make money, and the prices are absurd.
@duckyboy4329
@duckyboy4329 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that when your insurance denied you prosthetics, you just made your own.
@Joe-pi9bx
@Joe-pi9bx 3 жыл бұрын
Modern problems require modern solutions I suppose.
@OccasionalBoss
@OccasionalBoss 3 жыл бұрын
And a much better one, if I was in need of a prosthetic I would much rather have a mechanical one. The electric version looks to slow
@balcofono666
@balcofono666 3 жыл бұрын
You are an absolute legend. You embody the spirit of cyberpunk.
@coolhandluke1503
@coolhandluke1503 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this conversation could have gone longer.
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
it was. We talked for about an hour and change. we discussed a lot of design ideas and how they could be implemented. even though we are both focused on prosthetics, we have completely different limitations and constraints.
@SirSpence99
@SirSpence99 3 жыл бұрын
@@missingpartsclub Yeah, I got that impression. It looked to me like he was a bit disappointed that most of your stuff isn't applicable to his business due to your relatively rare situation and how tailor fit your hand is. Still, very interesting conversation. I do wonder how a mechanical solution could be made for full hand amputations. I've been watching your videos because I find prosthetics very interesting and am in a unique situation myself, I have functional feet but end up in severe pain when I put much pressure on my ankles. So, I'm trying to figure out a mechanical solution but it has to fit over my feet rather than replace them. Any ideas? I have a few myself but it is rather difficult to implement them without proper tools. (Working on that too! Maybe in a couple weeks I will have a functional 3d printer!)
@AntiHeadshot
@AntiHeadshot 3 жыл бұрын
@@missingpartsclub Good to know, the end of the video felt verry abrubt and unexpected after just 10 mins 😅
@buttubasu
@buttubasu 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirSpence99 have you tried a patellar tendon bearing orthosis?
@SirSpence99
@SirSpence99 3 жыл бұрын
@@buttubasu I have something like it, doesn't help much. It needs to reduce weight to under 10lbs.
@mr.de-gloved4499
@mr.de-gloved4499 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be a guinea pig, I lost all digits on right hand plus a de-gloving . I have a rubber hand now. So great, .
@mrgreen497
@mrgreen497 3 жыл бұрын
we need more prosthetic users with your intelligence, that way we can get them more refined .
@amosimo2870
@amosimo2870 3 жыл бұрын
Time to amputate every mechanical engineer
@BIGWIGGLE223
@BIGWIGGLE223 3 жыл бұрын
This is one hell of a conversation to eavesdrop on. I love it. This is an extremely interesting conversation for ppl who are not only possibly in the need of prosthetics, but anyone that is mechanically inclined and just loves all things mechanical. Just one small piece of advise for ya, Ian; the best podcasts to listen to are the ones where the guests can go on a 20 minute uninterrupted speech about whatever. When the host comes in and says "uh huh, Yeah, Yeah" it can feel like you're rushing him so you can get to what you want to say. We're all guilty of this. We do it when we talk to ppl on the phone, but it's not to rush them, it's to let them know that we're listening and are really interested in to what they're saying, but the lag time in internet video chats can make us come across as hasty. Best thing to do is just sit back and let 'er rip tater chip. I'm guessing that there must be an auto edit feature to these podcast type vids bc every time you said something the view switched to you, but you had already stopped talking. I think that's what can be annoying to some. Enough of my inexperienced chatter. I love what you're doing. I'm a big fan of mechanical things and anatomy. Put em together and it's a home run!! Keep bringing us awesome videos Ian!!!!
@gege0298
@gege0298 3 жыл бұрын
fascinating stuff, the question of proprioception in prosthetics is a very interesting one. wonder if stuff like HASEL muscles would help in that regard, or if its a matter of responsiveness.
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
Early on I looked at going that direction, but the added weight and complication was a detractor. and it would still be a blind touch. then you still have the issue of when the power supply dies, you have a brick strapped to your residual limb.
@bryanjernigan7315
@bryanjernigan7315 3 жыл бұрын
I teach high school engineering and design. A couple of years ago our students decided to try to create a myo electric prosthetic hand for an elementary student. The made tons of progress however they ran out of time and were unable to finish. The following year more students decided to advance the project and actually created a hand using the STL files from open bionics. They decided to go with a pressure sensor to open and close the hand. Our students were having a really tough time getting consistent motion from the emg sensors. They resorted to using a pressure sensor to activate the motion of the fingers. The harder they press on the sensor the greater the force applied to the fingers. They were hoping to use multiple force sensors to change the grip type. They also ran out of time before finalizing the hand however they did successfully integrate the pressure sensor. We are determine to present the young lady with a prosthetic hand by the time she enrolls at our school. Have you used pressure sensors in your builds? Is it possible for our students to reach out to you for guidance/advice?
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, when I was playing around with the 2 finger electronic hand. I ran into issues with the fsr's failing when I would sweat on them. I remedied this by encasing them in silicone. What version and type of fsr were you using?
@bryanjernigan8996
@bryanjernigan8996 3 жыл бұрын
@@missingpartsclub just a small .5 inch 10g-10kg fsr sensor. Ah! encasing them with silicone. They on used 2 linear actuators so essentially they were controlling it similar to your two finger hand.
@NeonWasInUse
@NeonWasInUse 3 жыл бұрын
Engineer Mains Discussing Gunslinger-style weapon ideas. -2021 colorized Edit: "Fingers are a luxary!" and lungs are a privilege. Thank you insurance companies. "Fingers are a luxary" my foot.
@skootz24
@skootz24 3 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely fascinating to watch, Thanks to both of you for all your work!
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 3 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting, bit of a shame the latency was so high however feels like we might have missed out on a few interesting follow up questions because you kept accidentally cutting of each other. 😅
@morphman86
@morphman86 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ian made a great point here, towards the 8-minute mark. One of the biggest considerations when designing a prosthetic should be the user. Not a generic user, but THE user, the person that will wear THAT prosthetic. I feel like too many manufacturers are trying to find a one-size-fits-all solution. I would much rather they took a modular approach, break it down into components and have a system in which they can assemble just as much of the prefabs as they need, then design the attachment point and control points for the individual. That should bring the best of both worlds, with a cost reduction from mass production along with custom fitting prosthetics that best serve the user.
@Zane-It
@Zane-It 3 жыл бұрын
super cool the future gives me hope
@jayknuffke5818
@jayknuffke5818 2 жыл бұрын
I think your designs are absolute genius. Sure drove by situation, but you're like a real-world Tony Stark.
@roach280
@roach280 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are always so great to watch, thank you so much for taking the time to make them! I'm going to university next year and I'm thinking of majoring in biomedical engineering and I always feel so inspired after I see your amazing work :))))
@sachipawooskar-almeida1
@sachipawooskar-almeida1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a BME undergrad and yess its pretty cool
@gitarmistar
@gitarmistar 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who wants to make prosthetic in the future your videos have greatly helped my own design process for my course. For that I thank you
@ronbn3117
@ronbn3117 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to listen to more conversations of this type! Thanks for sharing.
@hanmetalworks
@hanmetalworks 3 жыл бұрын
i like how the clack your prosthetic makes is similar to venom snake's clack that he uses to get guards' attention
@dynamited3378
@dynamited3378 3 жыл бұрын
You people represent the best of humanity that i have (to date) observed. This is simply amazing!
@sbrunscheon
@sbrunscheon 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy watching your videos. I always learn something
@QuesoCucuy
@QuesoCucuy 3 жыл бұрын
i see you have two prosthetic fingers in your pfp did you 3d print them yourself?
@sbrunscheon
@sbrunscheon 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuesoCucuy nope! I'm not that skilled lol. My pinky is a PIPDriver by Nake Prostetics and my ring finger is made by Point Designs. You'd be amazed at the difference they make
@reubenc747
@reubenc747 3 жыл бұрын
Your new build in the background looks incredible, I can’t wait to see the final product!
@EO-fv3wc
@EO-fv3wc 3 жыл бұрын
I think I donated some money to that whole Hero Arm project a while back. Cool to see my favorite RoboHand YTer talk to them
@jeffstrongman7889
@jeffstrongman7889 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched only two of your videos, which btw I have found fascinating. I had already commented to myself how talents you are, but after watching your chat with this young man I must say, it is clear that you are, without a doubt, the foremost authority when it comes to prosthetic design. The level of thought that you have put into every detail, every material is just mind boggling. To you I say well done Sir. Outstanding work. I look forward to watching more of your content.
@ahkine4096
@ahkine4096 3 жыл бұрын
I like mechanical because of strength reliability and ease of repair electrical seems two finicky but i would probably have a hybrid of both but leaning more mechanical.
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
That's where this one is going. Mechanical for the motion, electrical to individually address the fingers.
@reliablyradioactiveraven6219
@reliablyradioactiveraven6219 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long it will be before he can type with his prosthetic. It's already super impressive what he has made so far!
@korganrivera4659
@korganrivera4659 3 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine in the future that there could be a way to scan someone's hand or arm in motion, generate a model of it, calculate the optimal leverage points and so on, then auto-generate a blueprint for the best possible device for that person. Basically, doing all the work you've already done so far but automatically and for anybody's configuration. Right now, that's pretty sci-fi, but it already happens on a simpler scale for other devices and machines.
@oompalumpus699
@oompalumpus699 3 жыл бұрын
Fingers are a luxury said the people who have complete fingers. I'm pretty sure they'd be singing a different tune if they were the ones who lost part of their body. On another note, it's adorable to see two craftsmen nerd out about their interests.
@comblee9968
@comblee9968 3 жыл бұрын
As a prosthetic student your whole channel is fascinating. :)
@lukthere2
@lukthere2 3 жыл бұрын
Wait.. is this the entire conversation? Feels like it was cut off several times especially in the end, when u mention carbon 12. Anyways awesome sauce, keep up the amazing work.
@aidanmeacham1999
@aidanmeacham1999 3 жыл бұрын
My brain died half-way through, I just sorta sat there tryna learn. Gotta leave comments for the algorithm
@enotsnavdier6867
@enotsnavdier6867 3 жыл бұрын
In response to another comment he said that they talked for well over an hour.
@gibbethoskins8621
@gibbethoskins8621 3 жыл бұрын
Wait what? The insurance company said fingers are a luxury and you don't need them to live a normal life?? ....Holy shit their must be a special place reserved in hell for these kind of humans.
@joad47
@joad47 2 жыл бұрын
Ian, you are amazing.....just AMAZING! Turning an unfortunate situation into a mind boggling wonderfully creative one that is definitely ahead of the curve and very useful. God has surely used your blessings for the good of mankind. KUDOS to you, sir!
@TheFishCostume
@TheFishCostume 3 жыл бұрын
If fingers are a luxury, what limb isn't?
@gordonwiley2006
@gordonwiley2006 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see people talking shop like this.
@Barillaa
@Barillaa 3 жыл бұрын
I recently started to follow open bionics and I've been a subscriber of you for some months now, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the two names in your video!
@psyclinez5985
@psyclinez5985 Жыл бұрын
Respect you a lot man!!! Outstanding
@davynolan182
@davynolan182 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Ian Davis is like comparing tony stark to Microsoft, he just seems leagues ahead of the guys he’s talking too. I think there scared to venture into mechanical motion because they know it will negate all the work they’ve done for years, and millions of dollars even though they know deep down it’s probably better and Ian has demonstrated that. That said, I’m not that knowledgeable on the restraints of the mechanical motion, perhaps it only works well for partial hand amputees and perhaps it’s not applicable to all cases without massive investment but I feel like Ian’s hands speak for themselves, they just move so much more naturally in comparison to other prosthetics I’ve seen and they’re not costing hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce.
@user-wq4nf4dk3s
@user-wq4nf4dk3s 3 жыл бұрын
I think you hit the points pretty well. Ian's is specially designed to optimize the motion in his own case, which is partial hand. OpenBionics is however one of the forefronts in the industry when it comes to upper-limb as a whole, which is more focused on transradial amputees. Kind of like comparing a motorcycle to a car, different applications
@notednuance
@notednuance 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like there are a lot of factors to consider, but yeah Ian's partial hand can articulate more than someone who is missing more of their limb so you would be unlikely to get the same range of motions out of the mechanical limb, though the motions you can get could be as snappy. Ian seems unique in that he is an engineer and is also the amputee so he can iterate very quickly because he doesn't need to be able to articulate his feedback/suggestions to anyone... he also obviously can maintain his hand better than your average person might be able to... but the results are impressive. Seems difficult to scale up if you had a large demand you needed to meet... but you could probably produce similar results... if an engineer was dedicated to making a mechanical prosthetic for one person, working closely with their specific capabilities.
@Cynyr
@Cynyr 3 жыл бұрын
shame this was only 10 minutes. I'd have watched at least an hour, or 3 of this.
@PBnFlash
@PBnFlash 2 жыл бұрын
I feel it's pretty clear electronics don't have the speed or the force necessary. I wonder if a hybird approach that used some kind of electric clutch to engage/disengage finger drives from wrist action would make sense. It would solve a lot of complexity in shifting and driving while allowing for computer controlled grip patterns ie (palm down,slow) = precision pinch (palm sidways,fast) = full strength Some kind of electronically controllable chain link, that can break and rejoin on command. it would only take power to throw a link pin back and forth so it would only take a small amount of electricity. And it would only use power for shifting modes, so it would still work just not shift from the last mode without power at all.
@ariyanadumon4549
@ariyanadumon4549 3 жыл бұрын
"Fingers are a luxury, you don't need them to live a normal life." And that's when I'd say "Then try it asshole, I'll cut yours off and see how quick you change your tune." People are unbelievable. I'm glad you found a solution, well, made one lol.
@occamsrazor9183
@occamsrazor9183 3 жыл бұрын
I had a botched hip surgery, not missing limbs, I get you totally...
@diegoricardodelgado1980
@diegoricardodelgado1980 2 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde Argentina, muchachos si se juntan ayudarían tantos niños y mayores con sus dificultades...
@risenlegend9443
@risenlegend9443 3 жыл бұрын
Every time i see his hand it makes me think of a way cooler version of the hands on power armor in fallout
@soupisfree
@soupisfree 3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the passion you have!
@nirvand7431
@nirvand7431 3 жыл бұрын
it still amazes me how your own prosthetic is completely and fully mechanical
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely would like more of these conversations 👍 a little longer with a few different guests or users or engineers would be amazing. Although I'm sure not every designer is keen on sharing thier thoughts, or pitfalls of design and construction methods 😄
@cyborghobo9717
@cyborghobo9717 3 жыл бұрын
I am rooting for regenerative medicine. Like bio goo from the Expanse.
@jeice13
@jeice13 3 жыл бұрын
"Fingers are a luxury" and this is why everyone loves insurance companies
@obadel5092
@obadel5092 3 жыл бұрын
I learned something new and interesting . Thank you.
@cboy-ou2hr
@cboy-ou2hr 3 жыл бұрын
Astonishing truly remarkable work guys
@animeknowledge5048
@animeknowledge5048 3 жыл бұрын
I love this guy
@anthonygarcia5375
@anthonygarcia5375 3 жыл бұрын
Fucking insurance companies fingers are a luxury I cringe every time i see a insurance commercial
@donovancooper229
@donovancooper229 3 жыл бұрын
This video call radiates “awe that’s cute...” energy
@monkey81818
@monkey81818 3 жыл бұрын
I always love a post from you
@joseluisgasconarias6034
@joseluisgasconarias6034 2 жыл бұрын
Habrá un renacimiento mecánico? Un steam punk real? Admirable
@daddyplankton5855
@daddyplankton5855 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@faksigumantera9719
@faksigumantera9719 3 жыл бұрын
This man is about to get his own netflix show in a couple years
@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany
@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany 3 жыл бұрын
Your mechanical design is amazing! I'd love to see what you can do with incorporating metal printing and organic shapes
@jasonzuvela
@jasonzuvela 3 жыл бұрын
Big Boss: "Battery power? I'm mechanical, bitches!"
@thepunisherxxx6804
@thepunisherxxx6804 3 жыл бұрын
Hand and eye replacement technology should be up there with cancer research and funding. Its such a key part of being a human being. Disgusting insurance companies try to skimp out on it. There is some cool stuff out there, but the good stuff is still way too expensive and in development. Figuring out and standardizing a brain interface will be a massive leap.
@PhilfreezeCH
@PhilfreezeCH 3 жыл бұрын
From this rotting cage of biomatter, machine god save us!
@charleyedwards2121
@charleyedwards2121 3 жыл бұрын
you two are so fking cool.... amazing. heroes in your own right
@NathanCotrill
@NathanCotrill 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@rdsmith334
@rdsmith334 3 жыл бұрын
Without trying to downplay the knowledge and experience Open Bionics has, you seem to be significantly ahead of them in your independent development.
@Jester-rm9ox
@Jester-rm9ox 3 жыл бұрын
Open bionics makes affordable prostethics for mass market. Ian is a experienced engineer and metalworker working on a highly customized hand for himself. Its a bit apples and oranges but his partial hand design is amazing.
@stevenholden3718
@stevenholden3718 2 жыл бұрын
Some people should go on😁
@secretservice1816
@secretservice1816 2 жыл бұрын
Mann this is genius!
@mr.nthanneres4662
@mr.nthanneres4662 3 жыл бұрын
Meet The Engineer
@miruxa.
@miruxa. 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@vendetta1429
@vendetta1429 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video!
@cartmemes5034
@cartmemes5034 Жыл бұрын
It’s like modern Vs steampunk
@Drebin2293
@Drebin2293 3 жыл бұрын
You know, I just noticed I can't curl my right pinky finger without my ring finger coming along for the ride. But the opposite mostly works fine.
@barb0za0
@barb0za0 3 жыл бұрын
how do your fingers would with pressing buttons? like applying force straight down the finger? do they buckle? loved this convo!
@diebabrika8904
@diebabrika8904 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like to CEO is a little bit scared about the fact that this man alone made something like this.
@PsychoS_GaminG
@PsychoS_GaminG 3 жыл бұрын
Your amazing, can you put a price on what it would take making a fnaf anamatric, please life size, bollora. Is it possible.
@joshuantw
@joshuantw 3 жыл бұрын
Can you operate a smartphone in your prosthetic hand? With the phone resting on the metal pinky
@Jernofenz
@Jernofenz 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@lakshanyayadav9277
@lakshanyayadav9277 3 жыл бұрын
My man love u
@frederickherz1911
@frederickherz1911 3 жыл бұрын
Why are modern electrical prosthetics so slow? And why can't there be something like a sensitivity switch to increase the speed of the arm movement to make up for the slowness of our consciousness moving the arm.
@hiandrewfisher
@hiandrewfisher 3 жыл бұрын
The future is embedded sensors.
@cobralyoner
@cobralyoner 3 жыл бұрын
that was an abrupt end ngl. but i enjoyed it very much.
@ANTIMONcom
@ANTIMONcom 3 жыл бұрын
I know a company in Norway use hydraulics for prostetic arms. Any thoughts on that compared to motors and and "tendons"?
@missingpartsclub
@missingpartsclub 3 жыл бұрын
yes, but for partial hand applications it adds a lot of weight and complication to daily use.
@hornetf18
@hornetf18 3 жыл бұрын
*cuts off fake skin* “Now listen to me very carefully”
@MegaGizzlefly
@MegaGizzlefly 3 жыл бұрын
Product is called Hy5. It’s a really cool solution and I’m so glad someone was brave enough to bring it to market. Great for strength, challenge is weight. With an electric design you have electronics, actuators and a battery. With hydraulic you have all those things plus a compressor, fluid storage tank, and valves. So the biggest challenge is probably more miniaturisation and weight. With our design (Open Bionics Hero Arm) we’ve gone for light weight and small. Hy5 has gone for a high level of strength.
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