RTX A5000 vs RTX3080 for Creative 3D workflow

#Nvidia #RTX #WorkstationGPU
Comparing the RTX A5000 vs. the RTX3080 in Blender and Maya.
In this video I look at rendering with the RTX A5000 vs. the RTX 3080 in Blender, Maya to see what is the king of the Mid range GPUs.
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[@Deinonuchus]

I bought my A5000 during the height of the GPU "shortage". I had waited two years to upgrade and I was faced with either paying 10% over MSRP for an A5000, or 250% over MSRP for a 3080 making the difference in price about $200, if I could even get one. Hmmm, give NVidia my money, or give scalpers my money? The choice was wimple. And I really like my A5000.

[@shlimeball46]

Do you mainly use your A5000 for day to day work activities like photoshop and 3d rendering or do you use it for gaming aswell if so can you give me your personal opinion on how it does when gaming

[@Deinonuchus]

@@shlimeball46 I have not used it for gaming. I have a 4070 in the game computer.

[@lucas.coutin]

Finally a decent and reliable comparison. Thank you, great channel! Some simulation tests would be very nice. Houdini particles/fluids, CAD FMEA, both consumes a lot of time for FX artists and engineers, it's difficult to find trustworthy hardware information for a home office desktop.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

hi Lucas L. Coutinho, its also hard to find good SIM scenes to benchmark systems with. So if you know any, please pass the info to the channel.

[@bykaminokage]

Such a great video from a person who actually knows what he is talking about. Thank you so much for your work! :)

[@Anonymous_Man]

The Blender benchmark projects ARE NOT PRODUCTION LOADS. There's no displacement. No hair. No particles. Try a real life masterplan sized archviz project for instance - render a whole city and a terrain with displacement clocking in around 1 billion triangles - you'll see why the quadro has more memory and costs x3 the 3080. If you're using the cards for simulations in something like Houdini the memory size will play a role as well. So yes - if you're sticking to hobby projects, or just working on your portfolio, a gaming card is more than sufficient. That being said even in my personal projects I've crashed Blender rendering scenes with high resolution displacement. 8 or 10 gigs of video ram simply doesn't cut it for serious environment 3D. Pro cards have a place in production, they exist for a reason - people for some reason think IT departments won't buy the cheaper gaming cards if they could get away with it. They would. But it's not viable for production loads.

[@leohmedia1592]

Had my RTX A5000 for a couple mounths, It is simply a beast. Paired with a threadripper 3 gen it's so cool to work on heavy workloads, as you said, particle creation, physics and so on big that require the power and the stability, (with a lot lower TDP aswell), A5000 is the way to go

[@pygmalion8952]

just a little bit optimization can solve your issues but i guess you don't want to do it? sure, for simulation and hair there is not much you can do since everything you do effects the final image for those things. but you can reduce poly counts fairly easily with just a little bit of optimization. also, for the record, rtx 3090 is also a 'gaming' card with a whooping 24 gb of vram. pair it with another one of those monsters and you got a workstation without a 'workstation' gpu which would cost hundreds more.

[@oussamay.2919]

Now with apple joining blender development fund, most people are really curious of the benchmarks of the m1 pro and m1 max and its equivalance with nvidia graphic cards, of course its too early to compare a cpu processing to a dominating cuda/optix processing for now but it would be great to have an initial idea of the great potential that is happening rn, especially there is no really informative content on this new door of mac and 3d 😀

[@MediamanStudioServices]

No that I hate Mac systems, but they are limited in the compatible GPU rendering support. CUDA dominates the market for rendering systems and Apple does not support Nvidia. shame.

[@NeinFeline]

This channel needs to Glow up... Like PC Builder! I enjoy your presentation style and look forward to your content when it comes up in my searches🤓👍

[@johntnguyen1976]

Great video! Thanks for what you do...this particular niche (creatives & technology) of the computer hardware world needs as much knowledge out there as possible.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Well said! thanks for watching

[@SElahi-sj9th]

Part of the 2% crowd! Question: For Stable Diffusion which is more flexible? The RTX 4090 or RTX A5000?

[@jamesroberson870]

Thank you so much for these types of comparisons. As an independent 3D artist, these sorts of head to heads are severely lacking in the wild. The spec sheets hardly cover the full story. I'm currently trying to purchase either 2 x a4000s or 1x 3090. Because of the insane upcharge for the 30 series, the price points are comparable i think so it really boils down to performance for me. This video may have convinced me to run with the a5000 as it seems to be a great compromise between the two options i had in mind. I use C4D and redshift as well as octane, so your tests are really spot on. You just gained a like and a new subscriber. Keep up the great work!

[@MediamanStudioServices]

hi James Roberson, I am glad to have helped out. Thanks for watching

[@beansnrice321]

pretty sure the reason the a5000 kept doing better, is because of it's larger l2 cache. The A5000 had 6MB where the 3080 only has 5. I'm also pretty sure the 3090 an A6000 both have 6MB, too.

[@BoomixDe]

Current GPU Price comparison in Germany: A6000 48GB - 4900€ RTX3090 24GB - 2850€ A5000 24GB - 2690€ RTX3080 10GB - 1650€ A4000 16GB - 1600€ RTX3070TI 8GB - 1230€ RTX3070 8GB - 1130€ RTX3060TI 8GB - 900€ RTX3060 12GB - 790€ A2000 6GB - 725€ (08.12.2021)

[@MediamanStudioServices]

thanks for sharing the info on pricing

[@Anti-FreedomD.P.R.ofSouthKorea]

Absolutely ridiculous and stupid, lol

[@MediamanStudioServices]

@@Anti-FreedomD.P.R.ofSouthKorea I hope your referring to the pricing........ (:

[@SaifBinAdhed]

hey, thanks for the videos, quick note. when you will render in blender using GPUs please always make sure to increase the tile size as the speed of the render will vary a lot and it will actually show the real difference in terms of performance. I suggest trying different tile sizes and finding out which one is the best and then put the render results of best outcome from both GPUs. I always make sure I am using bigger tiles than what was showing in the school room renders, what I also do is just put in a quick math equation, if I am rendering a 1080p image I will just enter 1080/4 or 1080/6 and that would give me a faster render than just the default tile size. I am not 100% sure but when you use small tile sizes like 16 or 32, the CPU would bottleneck the GPU. dont qoute me on that though. Thanks again, looking forward for more comparisons. I am really interested in the 12GB RTX A2000, especially that it doesn't need any extra 6 pin power cable, 75W tdp, maybe put 2 of them in my rack and render without thinking twice about thermals.

[@landscape1570]

It would be amazing if you can do a comparison between the RTX A4000 and the RTX 3070 (ti) in a future video, also considering the low TDP of just 140W.

[@LastCloudiaHE]

I recently purchased RTX 3080 and it performs amazing on every areas I used for! Awesome comparison Mike! RTX A5000 is FIRE

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Thanks Michael

[@BBWahoo]

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[@andreasatt]

Thank you very much for this video and your KZbin channel! 👏 It helps me to decide which graphic card I should take...

[@ColorDraft]

The cost is twice, but the performances? The marketing department deserves a medal.

[@bocahdongo7769]

With much more VRAM Only because they limit the GeForce card. Enough to make gamer Fanboys defending it gladly, but not enough for Pro user to force getting into Quadro Card. Welp, at least 3090 did exist

[@starvingartistfanclub]

Benchmarks like this don't do it justice. These test scenes are small. Larger more complex scenes will take advantage of the additional Vram. Sure you could get two of the cheaper cards but then that's now twice the power draw and more heat in the PC.

[@bluemarble4051]

Interesting comparison & high quality content. Good job!

[@MediamanStudioServices]

thanks for the nice comments

[@Fish2Eat]

I have an old Quadro RTX 5000, it still holds up well, in Blender 3.1 it does the BMW 27 render in 13.6 seconds, I think a 3090 ti does it in 11-12 seconds which is surprising considering it has more than 3x the cuda cores and uses almost twice as much power. I expected the 30 series cards would perform much better.

[@gman7949]

Awesome comparison. Are you using the studio driver for both card to get a fair comparison? Or are you using the Quadro drivers for the A5000?

[@IN1Studio]

How about Unreal engine? What does it benefit most from? Im curious about realtime large scale photoreal environments and animations.

[@atf56]

Great! Why don't you test with arnold for maya?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Hi Ajith, one reason is that I do not have a good scene to test with. Its hard to find royalty free scenes on the net for Arnold. If you know a good site to download, please let me know. Thanks for watching.

[@farhanmuhib421]

Great video !!!

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@farann]

Great content as always Mike. What are your thoughts of having both RTX A4000 and RTX3090 installed in the same system? Any advantages? Any challenges for the system? Thanks!

[@MediamanStudioServices]

the RTX3090 would be limited to the Vram in the A4000, if you use both for rendering. When rendering, the scene package is sent to the GPUs, it is limited to the lowest amount of Vram in a single GPU. so not a great idea. you can use different cards, but may sure the Vram amount matches.

[@farann]

@@MediamanStudioServices thanks a lot for your informative reply. In this case, I will try to use the same card with the same specs for the Cinema 4D and Octane. Cheers 🙏🏻

[@MediamanStudioServices]

@@farann Ok, good luck with your hunt for a second GPU.

[@Something.Something]

I have an rtx 3080 ti and blender is only using about 80% gpu. Max gpu was 94%. The classroom scene took 2.2 minutes. What am I doing wrong? Edit: I had set it to OptiX. Changed it to CUDA and got max 98% gpu utilization. Render time 56 seconds. Nice. I haven't done renders in ages. Man it's impressive not getting 30 minutes per frame lol.

[@miladmolaee1548]

Thanks, dear Mike. Your videos are really inspirational for those who work harder to be professional!

[@Hashhakaj.Kamaluddin]

Thank you for sharing the test results between RTX 3080 and A5000 Everyone thinks that A5000 4x expensive than 3080 for twice Vram size w. ECC and solid build material. But, for the performance in 3d rendering is identical and A5000 is worst than 3080 for many games. At the end, the Expenses that A5000 is offer is beyond rendering and it was designed to work under full load for 24/7 time without worrying about getting died by overheating ( usually by faulty fan or ambient temperature rised ) when you're away. Quadros has lower GPU clock and temperature limit up to 70C. As gaming GPU, we usually use it when we are next to it for limit amount of time. And the GPU clock is always at the highest speed and the temperature limit is 95C. If there is any faulty fan during full load , there's a big chance of the card to die.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

hi hashhakaj kamaluden, thanks for sharing your comments. I have used my RTX and GTX cards at full speed for years without any faults. But as long as the system has a good case fan design there should not be any issues with heat, thanks for watching

[@C4DRS4U]

Love these comparisons. 😃 You didn't also run the Redshift test with the Moana data set (as in the A6000 vs. 3090 comparison), did you?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Thanks C4DS4U, the Moana set will not run on the 10GB RTX3080, it crashes most of the time due to the limited Vram.

[@C4DRS4U]

@@MediamanStudioServices I see. Do you know how much VRAM the Moana data set would require?

[@miguellaruku2725]

This is a great channel you have my subscription for sure. I will also link your videos on my site.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

thanks Miguel

[@fangxu2]

Just found your channel and I was blown away! Your thorough tests and professional interpretation are really awesome 👌 I am considering buying a blower 3080 GPU for my Unreal Engine development use. There are just two options: Asus Turbo 3080 and Gigabyte 3080 like the one you tested. Can you give me some advice which one is better in terms of thermals and noise level? I can barely find any online reviews about these blower GPUs.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

hi Fang Xu, I do not have any experience with the two GPUs you have mentioned. But they should bout be very close in both performance and noise levels. I have the tubro 3090 form Gigabyte and it is a great GPU. Thanks for watching

[@fangxu2]

@@MediamanStudioServices Watched a few of your earlier videos and noticed that you tested with Asus Turbo 3070 before. Hope you also had a good experience with Asus blower GPUs as well.

[@flamescales7422]

Not me watching this video with a gt710 💀

[@Z3USS_3]

me with intel hd graphics 💀💀

[@nickthechristian1236]

I have a Celeron single core with Microsoft windows server integrated graphics driver (NO intel HD graphics)

[@Kalicdire]

If a gpu had 4x higher msrp and 2x the vram id expect it to beat a gaming gpu by much more than 25% in tasks specific to its job description. It all comes down to time is money and its hard to see the difference on short renders like that but when your rendering large models and ending up with processing times of multiple hours thats where it becomes incredibly cost effective. In models upwards of 650 parts in soliworks i notice a difference. Let alone when designing things in the 10,000s.

[@Larimuss]

It all comes down to Nvidia fking over their customers. This is why they try to limit vram on consumer cards despite 4K needing 20gb or higher. These workstation cards are a scam. They’re also priced to not compete with their server cards. In the end these workstation cards should cost 25% more and give 25% better performance. I don’t know why anyone buys them. Like right now buy a rtx 4090 to a a6000 for $10k. lol despite 4090 being a scam price you get more performance. A little bit more vram still probably won’t beat a 4090 in 90% of work flows.

[@0w784g]

@@Larimuss I don't think you know enough about them to comment. Ever heard of sharding? SR-IOV? GDDR EEC reporting? They're so versatile and have so many more features over consumer cards.

[@tripleup2012]

​@@Larimussабсолютно банальное заявление.

[@robertwilsoniii2048]

​@@LarimussThe real interesting question is rtx a5000 vs geforce rtx 4070 super. Does the extra vram outweight the new processing power, or not?

[@adamfilipowicz9260]

with my Single 3090 with 34gb Ive noticed a 50% speed increase over Dual 2070s with 8gb each, not having to go out of core in redshift really keeps things moving.

[@marmeris]

I never found those benchmark tests really helpfull. I am working proffessionally with blender as a concept artist, I am on a hunt for a new gpu those days and I cant make up my mind between quadro vs geforce. Although benchmarks give better speeds for quadros, the point is they dont represent accurately the workflow. The extra vram is crucial for more or highher quallity textures as well as the size of the scene. I dont care about render times that much as I care for viewport experience and ability to create big scenes with lots of polygons and textures. Plus not to mention that when you have a pc that works in high loads all day long you want low power consumption parts and the geforces consume at least double the power of a quadro. So an interesting comparison at this point would be an a4000 16gb or an a4500 20gb (aprox 170-200tdp) with an rtx 4080 16gb (aprox 320-340tdp). They are quite similarly priced (at least here in Greece) they have similar vram and ofcourse 4080 would be faster in render times but this is not something that bothers me.

[@iamnoone5564]

Hi. I am going to build my first PC for amateur video editing and some gaming, like Microsoft Flight Simulator. I am thinking about putting togetger these PC parts. The GPU is probably the weakest part here. But i wonder what you think? I hope you can help with some feedback. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D or AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Eagle OC V2 or an RTX 4070 or RTX 3080 but that is a budget killer 🥵😓 ASRock X670E Steel Legend Fractal Design North Kingston Fury Beast Black 32GB (2x16GB) Kingston Renegade PCIe 4.0 NVMe With Heatsink 2T Corsair RM850X 2021

[@BBWahoo]

Hell yeah, greece!

[@SuperMontana2008]

Hey Christos, which card did you buy in the end? im in same situation as you.

[@BBWahoo]

A4000 and a4500 are more comparable to a 3070 in terms of performance aren't they?

[@R1PPA-C]

​@@BBWahooa4000 and a5000 are not I the same league as each other, the old quadro rtx 4000 would be comparable to the 2070 super on paper, the rtx a 4000 is a much bigger beast, the a5000 even larger gap again

[@superstite21]

Amazing video! Very professional!

[@MediamanStudioServices]

thanks superstite21

[@MWcrazyhorse]

Was there a nuclear accident in your home? Everyhing is bright glowing neon green. You might want to look into that!!!

[@nickcifarelli8887]

Thanks Again Mike for the video. To me, the biggest improvement is NVIDIA releasing the Studio drivers and ISV for both platforms. Its leveled the playing field tremendously. Snobs may look down on the 30xx series platform in general for content creation as opposed to the "Quadro" (why did this drop the name?!?) workstation platform, but the price to performance cannot be overlooked. Another factor in 2021 that's helping the argument for workstation cards is the insane price gouging of the 30xx series due to supply and demand. At MSRP, again, you could get three 3080s for a A5000. I'm curious what PCI 5.0 will bring to the table.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Hi Nick, yes gen5 is looking interesting but most workloads still do not use that much bandwidth. Lets see what the next gen GPUs are like.

[@hanstubben]

Depends a lot on which program you want to run! AutoCAD goes well on consumer cards, SolidWorks does better on professional cards. In the end you have to use the right tool for the job, and if you make your earnings with your computer system, don't cheap out!

[@pedrorivera1892]

Excellent video Sr. Thank you!

[@MediamanStudioServices]

thank you Pedro

[@jyotishj7582]

Is rtx a5000 good for 3d lighting and rendering , using Autodesk Maya software

[@mikebrown9826]

Yes very good

[@brinstondsouza4909]

Thank you for your video.. helped me decide!

[@MediamanStudioServices]

I am glad I could provide some assistance.

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

what about A5000 vs 3090 then? You can buy second hand 3090s dirt cheap these days, so there is also that.

[@boopfer387]

Thanks Mike, I love your content

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Thanks Bo

[@simonluk4438]

Could you compare the 3080ti to other gpus ? From the cuda core count it’s almost equal to a 3090 but is it worth it with only half the vram ?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

I would love to Simon Luk, when I can get a 3080ti, I will be creating a video Thanks for watching

[@ronto55]

Can you make one with the 3080 and the A4000 because they are at almost the same price range

[@mpik1283]

Great video man.. but could you make video bout test those gpu with Daz3d?? And i'm still confuse.. why they make quadro that more expensive if the rtx 30series can beat them

[@MediamanStudioServices]

I have not used Daz3d yet but i will look into it. And Nvidia just wants to make more money.

[@trevor4664]

You should compare some amd work station gpus and please throw in renderman and amd pro render into render comparisons.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Hi Trevor, once I can get my hands on some AMD GPUs I will be creating some videos. I am also working on getting a license of renderman GPU render thanks for watching

[@christopherderasmo5041]

Inless you need the special software that only works on the A series then go with the non A series.

[@archiebellega956]

The A series is more for people who need to render 24h a day aka workstation job, they are the highest binned chip so they fail less, which is important when you have to render/calculate for 36 hours consecutively, plus they have better error protection. You don't just buy it for speed. Sure the 3090 could render/calculate in 34 hours what the A5000 needs 36 hours, but the A5000 effectively ensure you finish the whole 36 hours, while the 3090 might fail in the 10th hours and now you have to restart the whole render from the start. But yeah, for any light to medium task, no reason to buy the A-GPU (though the A2000 being the best sub-75W GPU for gaming give it some niche use case in SFF builds as you don't need extra connector from PSU)

[@GENIUSGT]

Seems like the 3000s series are more cost efficient for independent studios. Makes me wonder if there's any difference in rendering speeds between 3DS Max and Maya.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

its hard to say as they are not the same workflow between the two Software packages. thanks for watching

[@Vikingeek]

Great video and insight - would love to see a more price to price comparison, something along the lines of the 3080 vs the closest budget RTX A series GPU. From what I've seen, something like the 3080 or 3080Ti often has far better specifications than similarly priced workstation GPU's, so would be interesting to see if the raw horsepower beats out the specialised design aspects (such as the ECC RAM etc). I know my work have tasked me to look into upgrading my work computer and have given me a set budget, and looking at what is available the options seem to be more in line with RTX A2000, A3000, 3080 or 3080Ti... I'm leaning towards the raw horse power being the better option in this case, but would be interested in your opinion.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

hi Ian Dingle, there is not workstation i at the same price that would compare to the 3080. This is why I did the comparison with the A5000. Get the 3080 if you only have a $600 budget. Thanks for watching

[@rhyswilliams887]

What performance would you get if you had 2 A5000 linked together compared with a single A6000?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

well if I had these GPUs I would do a test. Thanks for watching

[@Dr.Hypersonic]

Theres always a special place for cards depending on how one uses it ... each Graphic card has its own advantages.... thanks for such videoz ..🙂🙂👍🏻

[@MediamanStudioServices]

yes, workstations do have a place in the creative market, it just only a few that can afford to purchase one of these GPUs. thanks for watching

[@TamilMediaTV]

Thank you for this informative video, sir. As you had asked to share viewers test results as well, I would like to share my test result of Nividia Quadro T600 GPU which costs 194 USD (14,500 INR). From your BMW Render test: RTX A5000 - 22.88 seconds RTX 3080 - 23.74 seconds My 4GB Quadro T600 - 87.43 seconds I am about to make a make my purchase for 3080 Ti as GPU prices had fallen super awesome here. After watching your videos I also understood the importance of Vram and how great these Quadro series are consuming very less electricity

[@TamilMediaTV]

@@Mappi75 Oh wow.. That's awesome to know!

[@plek503]

Best your information 🎉🎉🎉

[@diegoandresbustamante2742]

When you use GPU computing and model 3D parts, 12 hours a day or leave it computing all night. Quadro with certified drivers is the way to go. I am using a A5000 right now for my engineering work and I they are flawless. I cant say the same for my experience with Geforce. If you have the money, go for quadro. If not Geforce is better than nothing since most programs that are designed for Quadro works with Geforce.

[@ruslanpala4424]

No. I had use gtx1660 in NX. That was bad. A4000 is the best. But i dont know- will good in NX rtx 3070/4070. Gtx1660 has many disstorssions in NX work.

[@nicolaireedtz8015]

may I ask should I buy a gpu rn or should I wait . I’m a small developer that’s doing 3D rendering / ai deep learning and game development. I’m planning to buy an 3080/3090 should I wait or buy ? Since 4000 series isn’t that far off . Im an 18 year old learning to be a creator have a background on programming for more than 10 years.

[@fed_blend]

If you can wait, and you don’t want to spend too much, sign up to alerts on discord servers like part alert and sign up for the founders edition alerts in your region, that way when they drop you have a good chance of getting it if you’re quick enough at the right cost

[@dbikeryamaha125]

If you can get one for MSRP, buy it. But don't be in a hurry, and if it so happens that you can't get one and the next series comes around, then wait 😊

[@nicolaireedtz8015]

@@fed_blend lol thanks a lot tbh. but founders editions are still not available in my region most of them are third party manufacturers like asus ,palit and etc founders editions are like 0.001% I tried contacting a lot of suppliers but got no luck at all . Is there anyway to buy a gpu abroad and shipped it here ?

[@nicolaireedtz8015]

@@dbikeryamaha125 non of them are near msrp tho but I got something at back my head telling me to get a used 2080ti beforehand and use it till 4000 series launch cuz 2080ti rn are going for like 750 dollars but still it’s absurd for a used card . What’s ur opinion on that ? Should I go for it ?

[@SuleBandi]

Great video Mike! Do you have any Laptop (!) Workstation suggestions for classical Archviz content creation (VR, animation, rendering) in Unreal engine? I was using a decent Desktop (Xeon2145, RTX5000), but now I’m being forced to choose a laptop instead. (Homeoffice…) It struggles me to give up 40-60% performance just because of being a laptop.

[@oneballnba]

Hi, sorry I am so late in the party. Just managed to get a cheap a5000 from a friend and wanting to build a workstation and gaming pc. What cpu is best to utilise this gpu? Hope you can give me high and mid spec on both ryzen and intel please. Thanks!

[@le_potate3861]

This depends on your workload. Are you just gaming and streaming? Get a 5800x3d. For Intel, the i5 13600 is a solid choice. They will serve you well for the vast majority of applications.

[@oneballnba]

@@le_potate3861 Thanks. I will study rendering too so it will be half the time rendering and half gaming. I do not plan gaming in high settings. I will check those CPUs. Thank you.

[@le_potate3861]

@@oneballnba definitely use high settings with the A5000. It's a pretty potent card. Somewhere in between a 3080, and a 3080ti.

[@JASONROHLER]

If you still have both cards, is there a simulation benchmark that you could run against these two? With the Double-Precision I know which should win but curious. Hoping the Tensor Cores aren't just something for scientific sims etc and that particle simulations or physics perform better on the A5000 vs 3080.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

hi Jason, do you have the SIM for testing?

[@JASONROHLER]

@@MediamanStudioServices At the time I wrote this, I was researching the A5000 and... this was a great video to see beyond the typical gaming comparisons. I am running a mobile 3080 and shortly after watching this, pulled the trigger and bought the A5000 for an eGPU setup. I would not doubt every test I can run will be sub-max performance, but it's real world. I'm still navigating the ins/outs of using an eGPU but want to run some of these benchmarks just to confirm I'm getting a bump in performance. When comparing a gaming card and pro card I think that there's enough out there to support that a gaming card is awesome but my original question was, let's call out the things this card does that I think the 3080 can't do well. And how can we test that?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

@@JASONROHLER , first you have a 3080 model and that is not a real RTX3080. The mobel GPU are limited to power consumption and do not perform the same as the desktop versions of the GPUs. and the 3080 is a good gpu and can do everything the a5000 can do. but the a5000 does have the extra Vram for when this is needed.

[@JASONROHLER]

@@MediamanStudioServices yeah, I'm aware the mobile 3080 is not close to a RTX3080, I was just debating paying the upcharge for a full RTX3080 or the... "upcharge" for basically a quadro card. I will not be able to compare the two cards like you did but I will try and find something the really tests the things the extra vram and tensor cores add to the A5000

[@beansnrice321]

Just picked up a used a5000 for $1000 USD, to replace a now decrepit p2200 and dear lord is this a smooth-ass gpu.

[@DerekDavis213]

At 10:10 , you imply that SPECviewperf is not just a gpu test, but a whole system test. I have run SPECviewperf before and after upgrading the cpu, while the gpu remains the same. The results are almost identical. I went from 12600k to 12700k. SPECviewperf is a gpu test, the cpu doesn't matter much.

[@rockyvicky3848]

Does the after market value of quadro cards makes them a bit costly than the consumer cards?

[@foboss1]

How excellent is your video I really liked it and I subscribed. The question I have and based on your professional experience for 4K video editing, which would you recommend: 4070 super, RX 7900 XT or the RTX A5000, which would give me the best result and performance leaving Cost aside, I have an i9-13900KF with 32 GB of ram DDR5, thank you and I look forward to your comments.

[@mikebrown9826]

the a5000 would be your best bet. But at that price. I would get the RTX 4090 as it is in the same price range and has higher performance.

[@Booleanvisuals]

Your videos are awesome, I've been all over them trying to decide which GPU would be the right one. I'm between the RX 6800XT and the RTX A4000. I need the Vram and I like the performance of the 6800xt but it can't utilize Optix in Blender. I can get them both at roughly the same price. The only thing putting me off about the A4000 is that it doesn't have NVlink for some stupid reason. Which GPU would you recommend out of those two? Or do I save up longer and get the A4500 which costs twice as much?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

thanks for the feedback. I would get the A4000 due to the CUDA support in more renders.

[@Booleanvisuals]

@@MediamanStudioServices Thanks!

[@kingeastiphan438]

Thanks man I learned lot from you but I have one question can you try nvidia a100 40gb and 80gb for 3d or video rendering and gaming

[@lhbbq]

@Medianman STudio Services - So from a technical standpoint. The 3090 is a step above the A5000?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Hi Hawk, yse the RTX3090 is a step up form the A5000, as it has more processing cores and the same amount of Vram as the A5000. But I did like the performance of the A5000 for what it is and how it is targeted in the market. And the A5000 is easier to purchase at the MSRP.

[@lhbbq]

@@MediamanStudioServices - I totally agree. I am going to give it a shot. I have a 3090 I believe I am going to keep. Use the A5000 for the work - CAD, 3D, and etc. And use the 3090 for the purpose of batch rendering and etc. At this point. I don't see a valid reason just to sell the 3090. Tell me if I am wrong, but I believe the 3090 can be a great sidekick. What I realized about your video the advantage I saw on the A5000 or A series of cards. If the rendering scene involved a good deal of complexity. The 3000 could not hang with the A-series. Please share you through...

[@lhbbq]

I considered selling off the 3090, and A5000. And just get a single A6000. Do you feel that is a better solution?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

@@lhbbq Hi Hawk, I think the 3090 could hang with the A-Series just fine, See my video on A6000 vs, 3090. In Fact, I would choose the 3090 over the A5000 any day. They have the same Vram and the 3090 has more processing power. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2OsZ2yrgJ6KjLc

[@MediamanStudioServices]

@@lhbbq If you need the extra Vram, then get the A6000, but the two GPU (3090 and A5000) is more processing power. Considering the 3090 can compete with the A6000, just not when you exceed the Vram required for complex scenes. Watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2OsZ2yrgJ6KjLc

[@Antorul3s]

I was looking for a rtxA2000 12gb or rtxA4000… i mostly use autodesks programs and rhino.. is A4000(or the A2000) too much for those programs? what gpu could you recommend me? Thanks a lot (i have also an i712700k)

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Hi Jovial, I would still recommend for a RTX3080 as this has more power that the A4000 at a lower price. The RTX3xxx cards will work fine with Autodesk applactions. You do not need the Axxx GPU to be completable with your workflow. Thanks for watching

[@Antorul3s]

@@MediamanStudioServices ok, perfect… thank you very much, again.

[@AMOSGRIN1]

Hello, Thank for the video and for your great channel. I am a product designer. I work mostly with SOLIDWORKS and RHINO for CAD modeling and then rendering with Keyshot. Would you recommend the rtx3080 over the a4000 ? Can’t choose. Thank you again 🙏🙏

[@mikebrown9826]

Yes I would as the 3080 have way more processing power. But the 3080 12gb does have 4gb less vRAM than the a4000

[@allenklingsporn6993]

@@mikebrown9826 Yikes! Stop giving advice outside of your expertise! CAD modeling can have huge rendering implications on precise work. You can literally kill people by using a less precise GPU.

[@santiag0pictures]

I 've just made the same tests, I have a rtx 2060 super but I got faster times. The BMW 26s,, the junkyard 25s, The classroom scene was 55s. I was checking if is worth the update for a new GPU but now I have no idea XD. (Nvidia just released new studio drivers update, it says now blender is improved) Thank you so much for your work and your time, you really helps us showing real performance use cases. Can you please show more 3ds Max - Arnold test? I'm sure testing the same scenes it would be 100x times longer as this software is not frequently optimized as blender.

[@kingeastiphan438]

Sir I request you to try nvidia a100 for 3d rendering like vray in Maya or any other rendering engine as well

[@gerasimosioardanitis5494]

Dear Mike, I need your expert advise for my step stone (temp solution due to low cash). I have a Razer Blade with an 2080 Super QMax on that i use for Blender. Until I can afford a proper Render Station, would u approve to get the RTX 3090 (I need the 24Gb for my scenes otherwise i would get 2 3080) in a Razer Core X external graphic enclosure? Do you think that would give me a temp solution? Kindest regards for your time and effort!

[@mjlagrone]

If you are using blender 3.x and an nividia gpu, it usually runs faster if you turn off tiling.

[@kaito9330]

Hey mike ..Great video..(liked and subscribes......great info)..If i had to to chose between A4500 20 gb, A4000 16 gb and 3080 12gb....what would you suggest...i want to make the most use of my PC ..i will use it for heavy poly view port modelling, Rendering scenes , VR sculpting and modelling and maybe casual gaming...What do you suggest

[@MediamanStudioServices]

hi Kashyap Bhatt, I would get the RTX3080 then, it has a lot more processing power than the A4500 or the A4000. Not as much VRAM, but you may not need this for your workflow. Or you could get the 12GB version of the 3080, if and when it comes out.

[@kaito9330]

Yes...thanks...i thought so too. At my budget it gives more bang for the buck... Thanks again

[@adamfilipowicz9260]

Please do a very large redshift (high memory use) scene with dual 3090 and test with and without nvlink. Like to see if the link actually helps

[@jameskurian6914]

That would be awesome

[@Allllllien]

Hello can you do video for the best mobile workstations (laptops) for work with 3D (CAD)

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Sure, I would like to do some testing on Laptop, but I do not have a supply of laptops to do these tests. I also do not recommend Laptops for work as they as a higher cost and a lower performance. Thanks for watching

[@lordeross4870]

What would unreal engine performance look like ?

[@EuroExpats]

Uf that would be sweet to know, I only use Unreal lately

[@ABIGLExiang]

Thank you for your video. can you give me a suggestion list about the whole pc configuration? My job is always using Rhino and Zbrush .I have no idea about pc configuration. A4000 or 3080ti? i7 12700 or i9 12900?

[@DerekDavis213]

@@r.r.c.c How about Ryzen 5950x vs 12900?

[@pinoyarkitekto620]

can you please do RTX 3080 Ti vs A4000? Thank you in advance

[@landscape1570]

It would be a better comparison against the RTX 3070 ti

[@allenklingsporn6993]

This is a very incomplete view of the workstation GPU world. The performance of any program will depend on it's code. Those using a directx codec (like blender) will run equally well on GeForce or Quadro cards. However, an OpenGL or Vulkan based program are good to run up to 10x faster on a Quadro card. Not to mention that GeForce doubleprecision speed of the 2080 is more than 150 TFLOPS slower than the A4000 card... If you don't know what doubleprecision or OpenGL are, then you likely don't need to worry about the difference between card series. Getting anything in this range is going to be just fine for your purposes. For everyone else, you'll need to find a better comparison under a true test workload.

[@MaximumPower64]

Blender is using OpenGL 4.2 with Vulkan support being planned. 3ds Max can use Direct3D 11, 9 or OpenGL for the viewport. Maya can use Direct3D 11 or OpenGL on Windows.

[@kanadadayasamak]

3080 LOOKS BETTER COMPARTE TO PRICE

[@stevehanwright481]

Thanks once’s again

[@drordby]

hello mediaman and the technical guys here. i have a question. can you guys tell me in which times i need a graphic card. with more vram and in which times i need strong gpu ? i mean what video editing requirement ? more vram or more stronger gpu ? and for graphic editors (adobe premier for instance) ? and what are the need's for gaming pc ? is it different from one to another ? thanks you a lot. dror

[@Sirokawa032]

There is some different point video edit, gaming, and 3D rendering. All of them use graphic cards. However, There is one different point between gaming and graphic including video editing. It's a CUDA core. Gaming don't use CUDA core of Nvidia, but video editing and 3D rendering mainly use CUDA core(Some programs are also possible to use Radeon, but they're not standard or dominating progam in industry.) And The difference between video editing and 3D rendering is whether the program uses all available CUDA cores. In video editing, programs uses up to a certain number. If it uses thousand of CUDA cores and your graphics card has 3k CUDA cores, 2k CUDA cores don't work. But In 3D rendering, The programs uses as more as possible until limit. So if you play game or 3D rendering, you have to use more powerful and stronger gpu. But In few cases, your programs is required more VRAM. Do you know what RAM does on a computer? It's a desk for CPU. CPU load data what need for processing from RAM. VRAM is also same. VRAM stores data for GPU cores. So If you want to play QHD, 4K or more higher resolution or render complex scene, your graphic cards need to process more bigger data. so It will be required more VRAM. This is why high-end GPU has more VRAM than low-end or mainstream GPU. Many users are expect them to process more data(like 4k gaming), so they need more powerful performance and more VRAM.

[@el_leswis970]

Hi! I really appreciate this benchmarks, they really give me a more complete idea about what I need but I still have a doubt... I hope you can help me with it, I want to become a full time creator and for that I'm going to be using blender and unreal engine 5 so long, I have an 12900k and I'm thinking about buy an rtxa4000 or 3080ti, they are a closing price each others, My question is, for the task I'm gonna be using Wich card you consider the best??? Thanks for the video, I hope I can get an answer

[@mikebrown9826]

I would get the 3080ti as it is way more powerful gpu.

[@DerekDavis213]

How are you cooling that 12900k? Other people have said the cpu peaks at 240 or 250 watts (!), which leads to noisy cooling fans.

[@andythegamer287]

"midrange gaming GPU" bro talking about a 3080

[@lemagreengreen]

It's kinda true these days... kinda. Okay it's upper mid range. I hate it too, 3080s are still expensive.

[@decyg1274]

A comparison between the RTX 6000 ada and the upcoming RTX 4090 Ti would be interesting. According to GPU database they should have the same amount of cores and VRAM (48 Gb). The specs are similar, i am woundering what the performance difference would be.

[@xiaoranzhou2522]

Not interesting. RTX 6000 would be twice the price with less performance

[@geok1ng]

Thank you very much for this relevant content. When you have the chance , run some benchmarks on 3080ti. I just subscribed.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

when I get my hands on a 3080ti, i will test it out thanks for watching

[@chris_peon]

For next time I would say pls dont use the default blender tile sizes anymore(I mean blender 3 gets rid of them anyway). No professional would use those default ones. For gpu you want 256x256 or 512x512 and you can speed up the render by a significant 5-10s in your cases.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Hi Chris, I know a larger tile size is faster, But I want a standard benchmark for the tests, so I can also compare with my earlier tests as well as let other people test on their systems. thanks for watching

[@elpainto1]

The issue for me when thinking about this is that if I have a budget, I'm not looking at whether I'm spending $1500 on a GPU vs $4000. I'm looking at what I can buy at a general price point (depending on budget). My question is: If the budget is limited, what reason might there be to buy a workstation card over a similarly priced gamer solution?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Well in this case the A5000 was a great performer in the tests. But the RTX3090 is the best GPU at this price point. bu super hard to find.

[@dpsociety]

I am going to buy an rtx 3090 for blender and unreal engine, which is better the founder edition or the third party?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

they are the same main components in the GPU, all supplied by Nvidia, So depends on what you can get in the market today and stock availability. If you have a choice, get the Founders Edition. it has a nice cooler

[@MDA_01]

The other factor here is 230w vs 320w. Does that lower wattage give significantly lower temps and lower noise?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

I would say yes to lower heat, but the blower style fans are not quite thanks for watching

[@kingeastiphan438]

So please if you have nvidia a100 whether 40gb or 8gb dgx or pci e

[@DecebalTraian]

My concern is if I buy this lapyop: Laptop Gaming ASUS ROG Zephyrus Duo 16 GX650RX cu procesor AMD Ryzen™ 9 6900HX, 16", QHD+, 165Hz, 32GB, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3080 Ti - is it good enough for video editing and Adobe Creative Suite ? vs a laptop that use RTX A4500 like this one: Dell Mobile Precision 7770, 17.3 inch, Intel Core i9-12950HX, 64 GB RAM, 2 TB SSD, RTX A4500,

[@PolbeRacing]

I am editing my KZbin stuff secondary on a Asus Zephyrus G15 with 16GB RAM, RTX 3070 Ti and Ryzen 7 6800HS and everything works perfectly fine, so in my eyes you don't need to buy the Dell Precision

[@我的暱稱]

The 3080Ti chipset is more powerful than the A4500 but the A4500 have ECC VRAM. The i9-12950HX is more powerful and have more cores than the R9 6900HX. For Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effect it is better to have a lot of core processor, the most RAM possible and a lot of VRAM for the graphics card if you work with 4K content. So from my point of view the Dell Mobile Precision 7770 is better

[@ariefsusanto3194]

Thanks for your video. I work in architecture visuaization, using Lumion and etc. Which one i choose, rtx 3090 or A4000 ? Thanks in advance

[@mikebrown9826]

3090 all the way

[@JoseLuis-kk5jt]

I think that RTX3090 is a good choice if you can found for 1100$.

[@EduardoODRAUDE14]

for Lumion and Vray RTX a2000 or rtx 3070ti?

[@mahaidinsakau]

Actually, I have some doubt on the impact of LHR to real world performance, does it actually impact our work?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

LHR does not effect creative workloads at all. only mining. thanks for watching

[@bonehackz3645]

Hi, all these gpu are expensive. Can you cover R9 fury and gtx 1070,getting cheaper in Malaysia.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Bone, I am looking in to doing a lower end GPU video in the future. Thanks for watching

[@3darches551]

I need to buy a really good computer and this time I want something really good. I usually work with visualization models for sale, but I want to create more and more complex scenes with realistic trees, grass, plants, rocks, architecture etc. The last scene I made in Blender (20 millions polygons) stuck and every operation, like changing view or moving objects take up to 5 minutes, yes! I need to wait 5 min after I moved a tree on one axis. So, I stopped working with this project :( For now I have i5-7300HQ CPU, GeForce GTX 1060 3GB and 32GB RAM. When I animated garage door you can see on my channel rendering of each frame (2560x1440) tok 50 minutes (on CPU of course). Craziness, but I did it while working on another computer. Energy bill was very high. What do you recommend? A5000 is very expensive, but what else is important. Do I need 64 GB RAM or maybe 128?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Hi 3D Arches. You are at the place in your production that you need to upgrade your hardware.. First thing is the CPU, the 4 cores is not enough for the type of work you are doing, I like Ryzen CPU and this the way AMD has allowed motherboards to support the CPU, you can still et an older, cheaper, MOBO and then upgrade the CPU as your budget allows. A Ryzen 3700 is available for a reasonable low cost, and you can use a b450 MOBO to save costs. I would also get a RTX3060ti or 3070 GPU, I know this is at a higher cost, but GPU prices are coming down. and this will save you a great deal of time on the interaction with the software as well as the rendering. Move off COU rendering and use the GPU. I hope this helps and thanks for watching

[@kasparsburbeckis6241]

What is the performance difference in SolidWorks?

[@MediamanStudioServices]

Sorry Kaspars, I have not tested Solidworks, but I would visit SpecviewPerf site as they have many benchmark result for systems including Solidworks systems.

[@Wayne-sn6qy]

I would like to ask if the difference between the two will be greater when the VRAM is depleted. If it affects with the size of VRAM, this might also happen in 3080 16GB laptop Version and 10GB Desktop Version.

[@MediamanStudioServices]

If your scene is not using all the VRam than it does not matter if you have more. So I would have to say no. it does not matter. If your scene is more complex and requires more VRam, than Yes, you will see lower performance with a Card that has less Vram

[@miltonbayronochoavelez]

thanks for that video

[@MediamanStudioServices]

thanks for watching Milton

[@OscarTorresWork]

Nice I would go for A5000 I not Model, Render but perform liquid simulations and cache. Really informative is this relevant for 2023?

[@generalawareness101]

I wonder how it does against a 4080. I know the 4090 would smoke it by a mile due to having over twice as many CUDA cores than the A5000.

[@DecebalTraian]

What about 3800Ti ? Isn't it better than the normal 3800 ?