Does COLLEGE PRESTIGE Matter? | Ivy League vs Public Universities

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Med School Insiders

Med School Insiders

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@MedSchoolInsiders
@MedSchoolInsiders 4 жыл бұрын
The truth is often nuanced, not black and white. Always be careful when people say things like "college doesn't matter!" or "only ivy leagues are good everything else sucks". The truth is always more nuanced. Thanks for watching and I hope I can continue to speak to this nuance in future videos if you're willing to listen =)
@blackheartgaming6121
@blackheartgaming6121 3 жыл бұрын
if people got accepted in a med school half way across the country will certain colleges help them get to the campus
@landrybenjamin8668
@landrybenjamin8668 3 жыл бұрын
instablaster
@DrAdnan
@DrAdnan 5 жыл бұрын
It seems like more prestigious schools have better resources, but everything ultimately comes down to what you make out of it.
@ririzizy886
@ririzizy886 5 жыл бұрын
Not really all schools kinda have the same resources and teaching methods. It's the experience that is different. I'm an undergraduate students at Stanford major in Economics. Not to downgrade Ivy League institution, but they often referred our schools as inspiration.
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 5 жыл бұрын
@@ririzizy886 This doesn't make much sense. What do you mean by referring to Stanford for inspiration?
@squidwrtt5911
@squidwrtt5911 4 жыл бұрын
@@TickleMeElmo55 When a Stanford student can't construct a sentence with proper grammar.
@njidekaike8356
@njidekaike8356 4 жыл бұрын
@@ririzizy886 Stanford was CREATED in the image of Cornell, an ivy. If anyone is referring for anyone for inspiration, it's Stanford.
@demeliou3844
@demeliou3844 4 жыл бұрын
@@ririzizy886 this is not true, ivy leagues have more connections/social capital and are able to get their students into important internships and jobs that are vital to building a portfolio
@seniortasty3970
@seniortasty3970 5 жыл бұрын
No patient will give a single damn if you went to Harvard or community college, as long as you can relieve that tension pneumo competently. At the end of the day, that‘s really all that matters.
@SkillUpMobileGaming
@SkillUpMobileGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Not true at all. At the end of the day, the end goal is not how many patients I have helped, but how much money is in my bank account. If I had to choose between putting more smiles on patients' faces and fattening up my wallet, then to hell with the fucking twats; I'll take my fucking money and run, the patients be damned.
@Danielm-hq3eb
@Danielm-hq3eb 4 жыл бұрын
@Isaiah Doble He's just spamming the same crap statement in these videos. Don't mind him.
@epitaphboi4816
@epitaphboi4816 4 жыл бұрын
SkillUp Gaming Ok Incel
@marianna380
@marianna380 4 жыл бұрын
@@SkillUpMobileGaming wtf man fuck off
@fidanabdullazade9869
@fidanabdullazade9869 3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillUpMobileGaming are you a doctor or soon to be one?
@ashleyallen8094
@ashleyallen8094 4 жыл бұрын
UCLA might not be “Ivy League”, but it’s certainly an elite school.
@gheller2261
@gheller2261 4 жыл бұрын
What makes it "elite"? It's low acceptance rate? Same school as it was 25 years ago and nobody called UCLA elite then. This whole elite or not elite is all nonsense anyway. The Ivy League is an athletic conference.
@cccspwn
@cccspwn 3 жыл бұрын
@@gheller2261 Part of the value from a selective and elite school is from the rigorous admissions process. If more smart and well rounded students are admitted, then the student body as a whole becomes better.
@rgmoses2189
@rgmoses2189 3 жыл бұрын
@@gheller2261 it's considered a public ivy soo...
@davisbates9185
@davisbates9185 3 жыл бұрын
Same with Johns Hopkins
@xczhang7887
@xczhang7887 3 жыл бұрын
@@gheller2261 How about UC Berkeley?
@annamusilli7322
@annamusilli7322 5 жыл бұрын
I’m planning on attending Wayne state University which is a less prestigious public university but still offers great research opportunities. Since it is less prestigious it has offered me much more scholarship money while still receiving a good education and being in the honors college.
@jppaul9156
@jppaul9156 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats! I just got my acceptance from Wayne state and have been contemplating if I should go there or not.
@zek9277
@zek9277 5 жыл бұрын
Same area here. Basically same thing except I'm attending Oakland University instead. Basically attending and living on campus for free in the honors college. Really proud of everybody who makes it into any honors program!
@fazeeugene9111
@fazeeugene9111 5 жыл бұрын
Anna and Lexie Wayne state is also where I omen on going
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 5 жыл бұрын
This is a vastly smarter thing to do than attend a prestigious uni that costs a lot. Many top high schoolers are taking advantage of the full or severely lower cost tuition offered by public universities with acceptance to their honors college/program . This is what my class valedictorian did, taking an offer from our state's flagship, and then attending a top 25 med school. He's now at Johns Hopkins for his residency.
@mathiass1999
@mathiass1999 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice Anna. Good luck with your studies:)
@colin3111
@colin3111 5 жыл бұрын
For most of high school I dreamt of going to notre dame or duke or some other elite school, but the closer I got to applying the more I realized that they’re all incredibly expensive and not necessary worth the cost, especially since I knew I wanted to go into medicine. So I ended up applying to three schools, all cheap state schools where I knew I would get good scholarships. In undergrad I had good grades, 99th percentile mcat, research publications, and then a job working in a healthcare consulting firm during my gap year, all which apparently look great when applying to med school. I didn’t apply to any “top” med schools because again I didn’t feel like it was worth getting into 100k+ debt, so I chose the (relatively) cheap(er) public school in my home state. Maybe it would be nice if I could tell people I went to Harvard for undergrad or med school, but nowadays schools like Harvard don’t bring that much more to the table relative to their high tuition costs.
@steve9605
@steve9605 5 жыл бұрын
What are publications? And what do they mean by leadership experience?
@Amicoskates01
@Amicoskates01 5 жыл бұрын
I chose a similar path to yours. Instead of going to the prestigious schools I chose Uconn and will apply for summer classes at Yale in order to get the big fancy name on my resume at a fraction of the cost
@__-kq4ey
@__-kq4ey 5 жыл бұрын
@@steve9605 Publications is referring to how many papers were published with their name on it. For example, if you worked in a lab that researched cancer and they made a breakthrough they would put your name on the paper detailing the results of their research since you helped them get there.
@Spartan11KIA
@Spartan11KIA 5 жыл бұрын
Harvard or ivy league colleges have actually extremely large financial aid programs. It may even be cheaper than your state school after aid
@Amicoskates01
@Amicoskates01 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think the odds are of getting full time admission or at least admissions for summer classes. I am in the business school at Uconn with a 3.9 GPA, volunteered, and won an academic scholarship award. Do I have less than 10% chance of getting in?@@Spartan11KIA
@DoctorCrystalMD
@DoctorCrystalMD 5 жыл бұрын
This was a big dilemma for me when choosing a college knowing I wanted to go into medicine! I ended up deciding to go to a less prestigious university with all of my friends and it worked out... that being said, most of my med school classmates came from the two biggest universities in my state
@kevinclass2010
@kevinclass2010 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. However, doesn't the fact that those two schools are the biggest in the state mean that inevitably they will produce most of the med students?
@DoctorCrystalMD
@DoctorCrystalMD 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Lopez well at the time my school was the 3rd largest... there were 3 in my class out of 300 from my college, but probably 50 or more from each of the other two (no idea of exact numbers) I’m from Michigan and went to central Michigan... the other schools are obv mich state and u of m
@stevensaid8468
@stevensaid8468 5 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me what the average Sat score you and your friends got ? I know it doesn’t matter but I’m just curious
@DoctorCrystalMD
@DoctorCrystalMD 5 жыл бұрын
steven samir In Michigan the schools do not require SAT so I only took the ACT Edit: didn’t when I was in HS. I have no idea now.
@swayashreekc9386
@swayashreekc9386 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor Crystal MD hey can you give me some advice? I’m thinking of doing medicine too
@rachel1ando
@rachel1ando 5 жыл бұрын
This was comforting. I was accepted into UPenn for undergrad, but I turned them down solely for financial purposes. At Penn, I wouldve accumulated over $80k in debt... So now I’m waiting to hear back from the other universities I’ve applied to. :)
@iamironman2963
@iamironman2963 3 жыл бұрын
How did it go? Did you settle for a local school? Any regrets?
@j10001
@j10001 2 жыл бұрын
We’d love to hear an update! Where did you end up going?
@calebdoe5962
@calebdoe5962 2 жыл бұрын
Hiii
@quantumcrash7266
@quantumcrash7266 5 жыл бұрын
I love your mature mindset, and it's really great advice. I also found that schools that are /aren't a match with personality type can impact performance. I transferred out of an Ivy to a smaller school where I was able to establish relationships with my professors and peers and the environment wasn't so cutthroat. I felt like I was able to allow my curiosity to direct my learning, so in that respect, more of my internal resources were available.
@dalhaimer2133
@dalhaimer2133 4 жыл бұрын
I spent 12 years of my life learning, growing, and studying just to get into college, only to be told that the college I picked is not good enough. How did that happen? 🤔
@jsmith434w
@jsmith434w Жыл бұрын
apply to a less prestigious firm then get poached when they need to expand and are looking for someone with experience?
@juanemanuelalmonte6033
@juanemanuelalmonte6033 5 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I wanted to go ivy or elite but as I got older I realized that doesn’t matter and money was a big issue
@yuyumiso
@yuyumiso 5 жыл бұрын
around how old were you when you realized it didn’t matter?
@juanemanuelalmonte6033
@juanemanuelalmonte6033 5 жыл бұрын
kinghwanghyunjinnie 16
@heartcomedy5
@heartcomedy5 4 жыл бұрын
j e n n y, 15 you realize it’s all BS
@blessed8543
@blessed8543 4 жыл бұрын
Archduke Franz Ferdinand all of that was bullshit
@blessed8543
@blessed8543 4 жыл бұрын
Archduke Franz Ferdinand Harvard is $50,000+ a year, same case with Yale and Stanford.
@aikoornelas2465
@aikoornelas2465 5 жыл бұрын
Right now I am at a community college and hope to attend a UC in 2020. Not the best student around but with the help of this video, I know I can go to a good school where I can represent myself
@adventurousdaredevil8903
@adventurousdaredevil8903 5 жыл бұрын
Aiko Ornelas Same! Tbh, my family is hoping that I transfer to UCLA & go to med school there, but I would actually prefer to transfer to UCD instead, so I guess we’ll see what happens next year!
@caseywatson3583
@caseywatson3583 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get in?
@s_e_t_z3248
@s_e_t_z3248 8 ай бұрын
What all happened since?
@tonysamaniego7875
@tonysamaniego7875 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly think this is one of your best videos, it put things in a healthy perspective.
@mike112693
@mike112693 5 жыл бұрын
In general, yes, it matters b/c ivy league is seen as more favorable when it comes to any context/situation (i.e. applying for school, social settings, applying for jobs, etc.)...even if one doesn't make the most of the opportunities/research etc that's more available at ivy league schools. med schools are mainly concerned with gpa and mcat, so ivy league matter less, but still is preferred with all else being equal.
@JackHagar
@JackHagar 2 жыл бұрын
It matters but for most it’s not worth it.
@maraisfan4life517
@maraisfan4life517 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with both opinions
@bobbyswanson3498
@bobbyswanson3498 3 жыл бұрын
He saying this like ucla isn’t prestigious 💀
@samihasarah4406
@samihasarah4406 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god! You uploaded the video right on time! I was literally stressing about which college to go to, today. Thank you so much for the video
@arianareeves3042
@arianareeves3042 4 жыл бұрын
Did you end up going to college? How are things now? How did this video influence your decision? hope all is well!
@tagtraumerin5077
@tagtraumerin5077 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I'm watching this video. In Germany (and I guess Europe) we don't have colleges and can start to study right when you have finished your A-levels. Americans are a mystery for me.
@musaninlebesi50
@musaninlebesi50 5 жыл бұрын
Same, we don't have to acquire a degree and then study medicine, we can go straight into Med-school after A levels....But I understand why the US uses their method
@alvinlajara2337
@alvinlajara2337 5 жыл бұрын
Here we need to take pred-med degrees (BS Biology, BS Nursing etc.) before going to med school.
@sharadhamanjunath6106
@sharadhamanjunath6106 5 жыл бұрын
In India too, we can directly get into medicine (MBBS) after completing 12th grade (which we call pre-uni) by giving a competitive/entrance exam. I think it's because we follow British education system.
@liv0003
@liv0003 2 жыл бұрын
@@alvinlajara2337 In Europe they don't need to take pre- med classes because in many countries in Europe the medical school lasts 6 years instead of 4 and normally the first two years the program focuses entirely on biology, chemistry etc
@steven_king
@steven_king Жыл бұрын
I’m a white male. Struggled all my life. Was born in southern white trailer trash. Had parents who were cult members, and tried to endocrine me with the supposition that” doctors were of the devil.” When I finally broke away from them, I had no money, no resources, and no education. Hell, I’m still working full time in my 30’s just to pay for college and living expenses out of my own pocket. YES… *in general* minority students such as African Americans have had a very difficult go of it from the day they were born, and the day their parents were born, and so on after that. BUT…can I tell you that it’s frankly BulS*** that “White male” students have connections and money. Everyone I grew up with gave up and just ended up selling drugs, overdosing and dying, or thrown in prison because we were taught “you’re a white man, you have privilege, and inherently you should just give the opportunities to those more deserving.” I’m white, I’m male, I’ve never acted rudely or improperly around a woman, and I’m not a misogynist…like everyone would think I am. I’m also white, male, and watching all the friends I did make of a different ethnic origin get into schools that I could only dream of… with lower GPA’s, lower MCAT scores, less volunteering and clinical research. When the hell are we going to look at PEOPLE and start throwing out race? I grew up in Atlanta about 3 miles from Dr. King’s memorial and church. I have photos of his plaques of “non-violence” tenants hung on my poor white trash wall. I don’t think this was the future he envisioned. I’m all for equally of opportunity, but what you’re talking about is equally of outcome. Frankly, I thought you were more intelligent. Man it sure would be nice if I could get a scholarship and into the school of my choice if it were only up to how hard a person was willing to work for it, rather than the color of my skin. …and before you go commenting like “well you haven’t had to put up with x,y,and z your whole life… or you don’t know what it’s like to be arrested for just looking the way you look” YES… I do. Maybe more than you. A white guy.
@MasterlyRex8789
@MasterlyRex8789 6 ай бұрын
It’s also extremely disgusting when rich African Americans (and yes being rich makes you privileged, you don’t get to claim the oppressed title just because of your skin color) tell poor white people how “privileged” they are. What an absolute embarrassment to society.
@Kayce860
@Kayce860 Жыл бұрын
I graduated from community college, state school, and then private masters program- I love that I can tell everyone from the time I was 24 that I have no debt 🎉
@darkmoon2744
@darkmoon2744 5 жыл бұрын
If so many opportunities exist and they are so great, why is the cost higher than the product. Work the system, don't be worked by the system because it will be no different working a dead end job as a burger flipper at McDonald's.
@brantphillips9133
@brantphillips9133 3 жыл бұрын
I went to Iowa State. Just graduated in May. I got a good job with steady income, and graduated with no debt. No complaints here.
@gmh471
@gmh471 3 жыл бұрын
Iowa State is hidden gem. So is University of Iowa. If both started marketing themselves more to the coasts and to kids of different backgrounds, they would attract more critical mass and become more interesting places than they already are (not to mention more widespread reputations). Both terrific college towns, but both also lack racial and religious diversity. ISU more than Iowa.
@TWN321
@TWN321 4 жыл бұрын
Very concise and data driven summary. Thank you. I am investigating college enrollment requirements and pros/cons for my son. He is very young, so I'm looking into this waaayyy in advance - getting started on my homework early. We are an upper middle class African American family, so the networking benefits and peer group available at an Ivy League environment would probably be worth it for us in order to overcome the cultural social biases that are sometimes stumbling blocks for minorities. Anyway, thank you for the video.
@OhThatNathan
@OhThatNathan 5 жыл бұрын
I did terrible on my SAT and went to UConn... but was accepted to a dozen MD schools. I agree with this video, it's all about how you do it in ugrad!
@mcdavid4606
@mcdavid4606 5 жыл бұрын
I don't normally do this, but come on man, accepted at a dozen MD schools? That just smells of BS, many of my peers graduate/ apply from MIT with a 3.8+ GPA, 520+ MCAT, with publications and a ridiculous amount of volunteer, clinical, research hours, and have the social skills to close interviews. While they got into medical schools I think the most I heard was one guy getting 6 acceptances. 12 is underheard of, and even if someone out there did do that, I doubt they are bragging about it on youtube comments.
@TooHonest4_You
@TooHonest4_You 5 жыл бұрын
I think prestigious schools come into play for the financial sector on Wall street and big cities for sure. Alot of time those schools are major feeder schools for fortune 500 companies.
@Charlie-gv3zt
@Charlie-gv3zt 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@navneelchand4816
@navneelchand4816 5 жыл бұрын
Really great video, I have always wondered if undergrad degree really mattered
@gabymei1159
@gabymei1159 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jubbal - I hear you when you say that what ultimately matters in medicine (and in almost any endeavor) is YOUR effort and YOUR work ethic. That was my motto too, all throughout college and since arriving to the United States at 13. However, nowadays I find myself doubting whether that is at all true, at least in terms of medical school admissions. And here is why: At an Ivy League medical school interview, most (~10/12) came from top colleges, like Princeton, Johns Hopkins, Duke, etc. I, in turn, graduated from a state school in Florida, not into the party scene, missed out on some family and friend gatherings because of the all too familiar “sorry, i have to study”, and had part-time jobs here and there. It was “worth it” because I graduated with a bachelors of science in biomedical engineering, summa cum laude, first in my class, and first in my family to get a degree in the US. During college, while some opportunities were readily available, like becoming a student leader, others were much harder to get (My school does not have its own medical center or hospital, like some schools do, like University of Michigan or Rutgers New Brunswick for example. So, early on, when I became interested in medicine, I applied to be a volunteer at a local hospital. The Volunteer Services office sent me a nice waitlisted letter - rightfully so, because they were overwhelmed with the amount of volunteers already serving). I know many other highly qualified students who could sit at a top medical school interview, because they have the work ethic, their grades are good, they volunteer in their community, some do research while others work for a living. To conclude, and to avoid an even longer comment, I think that where you go to college, specifically speaking to the resources and opportunities they have, has a substantial impact on your trajectory as a competitive applicant. I’m not saying that premeds who are not at a top college are out of luck. Some state schools can provide you with meaningful opportunities. At others, you’d be pretty much on your own when it comes to finding meaningful experiences. Thankfully, I was accepted by another med school. But that experience at the Ivy League school has shaken my beliefs. This does not directly apply to the topic of the video, but I keep hearing over and over again that job-seekers with a prestigious college name on their resume are more likely to get an interview and even the job. And i’ve come to believe it too. Dr. Jubbal, any thoughts? Do med school admissions committee actually review each application holistically?
@j10001
@j10001 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I think Dr J slightly underweights the value of an Ivy degree. (I speak as someone with a non-Ivy undergrad and two graduate degrees from Harvard-not medical school though.) The point he makes at 4:02 is true, but I don’t think he realizes how often people make that comparison - that is, how often people treat all other factors as _approximately_ equal, and then get starry eyed at the prestige of the Ivy League. Moreover, while it’s plausible that admission committees don’t pay much attention to your undergraduate institution, and most patients will not even bother to look it up during your career, there are many other situations where it will matter a lot. Especially if you, like Dr. J, ever decide to do something outside of medicine. For instance, I’m sure he would benefit from a Harvard degree now in his business ventures. It opens doors like few other things do.
@zoesemersky9371
@zoesemersky9371 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to attend the College of Wooster, which is a small research/liberal arts school in Ohio. They have a great Pre-Health program and quite a few opportunities to do research, volunteer at local hospitals, etc. It isn't a "prestigious school," per-say, but the collaborative atmosphere with individualized attention will definitely be a plus! In addition, I would ideally like to attend Northwestern medical school in the future.
@saschaburgess2332
@saschaburgess2332 5 жыл бұрын
this is just the video i needed👏🏻🙌🏻 thank you!
@smolstack1408
@smolstack1408 4 жыл бұрын
I plan on going to film school after I get my bachelors in media production and visual arts minoring in psych getting my bachelors in a smaller state university. I plan on applying to USC, Chapman, NYU. I’m going public, and I know this school is right for me because of internships, and connection opportunities. I still get everything I need here, and save tons more money I know I’m making the right choice without going to a higher need school
@Dreema90
@Dreema90 5 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on students who have to work to support themselves while in undergrad?
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 5 жыл бұрын
Sad to know that the US system is worse than the one that keeps me at 70% of the poverty line but out of debt.
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 5 жыл бұрын
@@austinfehr9447... They don't, by the time they die (slightly early) they get to keep as much money with less live stile (improvements) than Swedish doctors, knowing that they did less for the public good (you know, tax covered university and later on higher tax rates).
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 5 жыл бұрын
@@austinfehr9447 Given, the Swedish healthcare coverage is so much better, they do cover everybody and therefore more of the public good. You haven't converted the currency, let alone normalised the hours (and Swedish doctors could work more, if they want ) let alone considered the shift length. Tax covered anything is as limiting as the tax code, being born poor isn't nearly as hereditary in Sweden as it is in Germany let alone the USA...and covering colleges isn't the first thing a government needs to do to improve the social mobility (but it would help with the health care crisis you appear to have) .
@user-yr3uj6go8i
@user-yr3uj6go8i 4 жыл бұрын
Kudos to them. Student debt is an enormous trap.
@ronishagardner527
@ronishagardner527 5 жыл бұрын
I feel so comfortable watching your videos. Your so relatable!
@abhijaysudharshan
@abhijaysudharshan 4 жыл бұрын
I do not attend the most prestigious university, but it has been a goal of mine to attend UCSF School of Medicine. I want to show the world that you do not need to attend a big name university to become a successful doctor!
@maraisfan4life517
@maraisfan4life517 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that no one in my school is toxic about the prestige of universities their friends are going to. They all just want them to succeed.
@LilaIjaz
@LilaIjaz 4 жыл бұрын
I am not a medical student. But your video was so helpful to me in deciding whether to pursue a public state university or private university for grad school !
@aidenhall5301
@aidenhall5301 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the comparison videos like this make is generally a bit unfair. Like sure, if you go to a state school and study, you're more likely to get into medical school than someone at Harvard that did literally nothing, but how many Harvard premeds do you think ACTUALLY do that? Not many. The real question is, for a hardworking student, which school would better prepare them for premed?
@jessicaabarca2118
@jessicaabarca2118 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I've been panicking over this the past few weeks so thank you very much
@xwrtk
@xwrtk 3 жыл бұрын
My parent’s daughter/former member in my Girl Scouts graduated with an engineering degree in 2020 at an Ivy League college. She just got an unpaid internship at her parent’s workplace. Also, the workplace of my parents too. She couldn’t find work without any work experience. They had to pull strings to get her in and mention she’s Ivy League. She was working retail temp until she found this internship.
@yallhearsome8349
@yallhearsome8349 5 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! Great insights. I’m a community college student with hopes to become an MD one day. Here in the US , the cost of undergrad and medical school is insane and I do not want to be drown in debt. I’m transferring this fall and so far accepted to awesome universities (UVA, College of W&M, Virginia tech, UNC Chapel Hill, and U Richmond). I should look into their programs, and make my decisions. Thank you med school insiders.♥️
@cameronkhuong7733
@cameronkhuong7733 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a UCLA undergrad freshman, so I was wondering which resources you took advantage of during your time here?
@Sophie-gk1me
@Sophie-gk1me 5 жыл бұрын
Omg I literally was just thinking about this and then saw this video!!!
@christianhernandez4614
@christianhernandez4614 5 жыл бұрын
Go bruins! 🐻💙💛
@gmh471
@gmh471 3 жыл бұрын
One thing in this video that is not correct is the notion that the student who goes to UC Berkeley will have many more opportunities for research as other places. This is not necessarily true. In fact, because the competition for research positions is much more fierce at schools like a UC Berkeley, the chances of landing them declines. Believe it or not, there are scores of smaller liberal arts colleges that offer research opportunities not available at the most selective universities, particularly large state schools like UCLA, UC Berkeley, Michigan, or Wisconsin. Also incorrect is the idea that, all else being equal, the applicant from, say, an Ivy League school, will typically gain admission over the student from a less "prestigious" school (silly that the narrator compared with a community college). Why? First, because medical, law schools and grad schools know that people choose colleges for different reasons -- cost, geography, late bloomer. Second, because Ivy League kids at competitive medical and law schools are a dime a dozen and all grad schools want critical mass; so, the student who went to, say, Kansas State or Ohio Wesleyan and excelled there and on the standardized tests, can actually have an advantage over the kid from the fancy school.
@Psi01
@Psi01 4 жыл бұрын
Smart-ass (in a good way) decisions for approaching post secondary school selection. Good on you, mate. I'm planning to teach high school science and math in New York City. I won't be a dedicated college adviser, but I still want to guide students by helping them make cost-effective decisions, when selecting a university. Unlike most people I have 2 bachelor degrees (math and chemistry), and I'm finishing a masters in materials science and engineering, before pursuing a teaching license. Even though I've been in school for so long, I found ways to essentially break even financially in every case. I just enjoyed learning math and science so much I decided to stick around. In a sense I went to college purely as a scholar, but I decided I didn't want to be broke anymore so I'm studying personal finance in the hopes of becoming a millionaire later.
@AddittiAgrawal
@AddittiAgrawal 5 жыл бұрын
really really insightful!
@MindDataAI
@MindDataAI 5 жыл бұрын
It does, only for the first job. If I know what I know now back in the days, I may skip university altogether. You can have a great head start with 3-4 more years, you can still acquire knowledge and be productive.
@kimberlymiranda7733
@kimberlymiranda7733 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! It’s the type of information I was looking for before applying to transfer.
@DarkFriday1408
@DarkFriday1408 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and great advice. Is it possible to do a video about top 5-20 medical schools and what sets them apart from lower ranked (with regards to them) medical schools? Also, would it be possible to explain how come in some tops (such as US News), there is a different ranking list for medical schools, based on whether they focus on clinical or primary care. And how come the Washington University Medical School in Saint Louis, is so high ranked, prestigious, considering that it's not a medical school that comes to mind, when thinking about prestigious medical schools (at least for me) and would it be possible to do a video about such medical schools, that are prestigious, but that people don't associate with being prestigious. I admit that when thinking about prestigious medical schools, the ones from the Ivy League, Stanford and UC system come to mind.
@tasnimessid2987
@tasnimessid2987 5 жыл бұрын
Great work
@astridflowers8001
@astridflowers8001 5 жыл бұрын
This video came right on time. I’ve been struggling to choose a graduate school, but ultimately won’t choose a school just because it’s prestigious.
@MathIQZ
@MathIQZ 5 жыл бұрын
Going to Vanderbilt for Undergrad and hoping to go to their Medical school or maybe UChicago. Any advice for Vanderbilt as a pre-med?
@nasjp3969
@nasjp3969 5 жыл бұрын
MathIQZ Vanderbilt is a great school!! Im a junior now and I plan on applying this fall. Can you tell your gpa, sat/act scores, and extracurriculars. If you don’t mind me asking
@mcdavid4606
@mcdavid4606 5 жыл бұрын
@@nasjp3969 I came down to MIT and Vandy as a premed 3 years ago. I ended up at MIT largely because I love New England and have a lot of family in Boston (even though I'm from Colorado). However in retrospect, I wish I considered Vandy a little more heavily, my brother goes there now and absolutely loves it, and even if it is weaker academically it offers so much more in terms of the overall college experience. I highly encourage you to apply, and would strongly recommend applying ED1 if you love it. Too many Ivy League rejects panic after getting denied ED at Harvard or such, and use Vandy as a 2nd choice, and based on admission statistics, Vanderbilt admission officers don't think very highly of this. I'm currently applying to med schools and just finished my MCAT. If you have any questions I'd like to help, but honestly, there's nothing I would say that differs significantly from the consensus found on the internet.
@nellyb743
@nellyb743 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure others have asked, but, how about med school reputation for residency? How much does it matter? It obviously does to an extent, but how much so?
@justinklei7435
@justinklei7435 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@bayan6893
@bayan6893 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@ettabrown1332
@ettabrown1332 5 жыл бұрын
I have always believed in the following statement: “It is the student that makes the school (not the school that makes the student!) I think, but am not sure, that prestigious universities get their prestige based on the success of its current/former students. The more successful students that attended said college, the ore prestige the school re wives over time until they are seen as a school that produces “winners” or “highly successful students.” I’m not sure what the criteria is for student acceptance but I’m almost sure it is partially based on the potential success of the student to be admitted and how that success will benefit said university. I don’t think there is anything wrong with a prestigious school because “IT IS THE STUDENT THAT MAKES THE SCHOOL.” Can I get a AMEN???
@pengupunchr557
@pengupunchr557 2 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@AvgJane19
@AvgJane19 5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious why you chose UCSD vs Harvard for the thumbnail. Both are prestigious and excellent schools. This year's incoming freshmen class has an average goa of 4.1 (weighted). It would be more accurate to put a Cal state (which are still really good), a school that doesn't rank, or a community college. It felt mismatched for the title.
@credulousrbt894
@credulousrbt894 3 жыл бұрын
Where in the thumbnail is UCSD?
@steven_king
@steven_king Жыл бұрын
UCSD is like barely 1 or 2 steps below Harvard. I’ve done everything I can to get into there and I’m well into my 30’s now. Now I’m just denied because I have too many “upper class units” to get into a UC school. Despite my 3.95 in California Community college. It would be just about as as easy for me to get into Harvard as it would UCSD at this point. Now I’m scared I won’t even ever get into med school because I had to settle on SDSU. Even if I keep up a 4.0 GPA in my last year or so at SDSU and kill the MCAT, I probably will still have to go out of state somewhere… no matter what. I did absolutely everything I could to get into UCSD. Perfect in every area, still I’m disqualified.
@italoc1792
@italoc1792 5 жыл бұрын
Im glad that we dont have to go thru all that bs just to get into med school
@Fluryman33
@Fluryman33 5 жыл бұрын
I'm transferring to University of Maryland - Main Campus to finish off my undergrad. My friend is a plant geneticist major there and he's told me of all the possible research opportunities at UMD. Along with that, the College Park fire department allows for tuition reimbursement and a place to live for free. I love volunteering as a Firefighter/EMT and I think it will be just a great experience to still be able to do that while at UMD and also further my education at a great university with plenty of resources and opportunities. Anyone go to UMD care to share some insight?
@horsecrazed01
@horsecrazed01 5 жыл бұрын
Fluryman33 where are you transferring from?
@briancheng8243
@briancheng8243 5 жыл бұрын
It really depends on your major
@itzelmontalvo6645
@itzelmontalvo6645 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the college you go to does not matter unless you want to be a big time politician, part of a big law firm, work for google or wall street, start a multi-millionaire company other than that🤷‍♀️Whether you got your education from standford/an ivy or community college could matter less! I do not know where half of my doctors went to.
@khankhan-uq3ki
@khankhan-uq3ki 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man keep up the great work. I was wondering how mny flash cards on anki I should be making per class/course in order to be effective. Also, which laptop would you recommend for college/med school.
@DJ-xp9bs
@DJ-xp9bs 3 жыл бұрын
I went to Ole Miss, graduated with a BA in psych and minor in neuroscience. Got PhD interviews in top 10 neuroscience programs and Ole Miss doesn't even have a neuro major. Ultimately decided to go to another SEC school because I didn't feel comfortable at those private schools. If I do a postdoc, I'll most likely try to do one at a top 10 school though.
@heartworkbykitty7933
@heartworkbykitty7933 5 жыл бұрын
“Close but no bananas 🍌 “ 😆 Love that little detail
@immanueldarling4449
@immanueldarling4449 5 жыл бұрын
Could you discuss DPT , PA, athletic training,etc careers in a video?
@lillyehrlich2816
@lillyehrlich2816 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you helped me a lot😊
@danielalvarado8282
@danielalvarado8282 4 жыл бұрын
Your a true inspiration
@musaninlebesi50
@musaninlebesi50 5 жыл бұрын
I've recently finished my A levels and about to study Medicine as an undergrad. I've always wondered why the U.S needs you to be a postgraduate to apply for Med-school? Is it because it's super competitive so if you don't make it, you have a degree to fall back on? I've never known.
@HotepSaoirse
@HotepSaoirse 5 жыл бұрын
musani nlebesi aside from it being a way to keep out minorities who would work for less and because we like inefficiencies, I have no clue
@divinelyl4189
@divinelyl4189 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jubbal, Will taking intro science pre-reqs at a community college make one less competitive for Med Schools that accept community college courses if other admissions criteria is strong?
@ashleyallen8094
@ashleyallen8094 4 жыл бұрын
Divinely Me I know your question was a year ago, but if the course doesn’t specify “for science majors” it doesn’t count as a prerequisite
@sickskull8000
@sickskull8000 5 жыл бұрын
Thinking of going to Texas A&M for my med school but I’m not sure yet
@Eeyoregoesmoo
@Eeyoregoesmoo 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jubbal, does it matter what medical school you go to? I’ve heard differing opinions on this topic, and I’d like your opinion on this. I’ve come believe that while it may not matter a whole lot, it can affect what residency you get into, which matters way more than what med school you go to.
@abdimohamud5252
@abdimohamud5252 5 жыл бұрын
Hey doc undergrad here can you do more med school and residency vids. Especially pertaining to classes that are taken in Med school. And how to study in residency.
@shielahm7813
@shielahm7813 5 жыл бұрын
Can u make a video about med school prestige on residency?
@autumns908
@autumns908 4 жыл бұрын
thank you. lately i’ve been feeling like i can’t be successful if i don’t go to harvard :(
@dreamcrusher-mkv2346
@dreamcrusher-mkv2346 4 жыл бұрын
autumn s believe it or not Ivy League schools teach a lot of the same material as smaller ones they just don't tell you that.
@athenanguyen1290
@athenanguyen1290 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, I hope medical school admissions take into account that MIT has grade deflation because my GPA is not where it should be. MIT has whipped me in the butt especially in the coding classes that are required for most majors. Plus, MIT's general chemistry is swished into a semester while everywhere else's is a full year.
@azeemiftikhar6084
@azeemiftikhar6084 5 жыл бұрын
what is ur gpa?
@athenanguyen1290
@athenanguyen1290 5 жыл бұрын
@@azeemiftikhar6084 4.5/5.0 in MIT's GPA format but 3.5/4.0 everywhere else
@Mae-nw6cv
@Mae-nw6cv 5 жыл бұрын
Athena Nguyen omg your so lucky that you got accepted do you have any socials that i could contact you at? to ask a couple admission Questions? if thats fine with you
@athenanguyen1290
@athenanguyen1290 5 жыл бұрын
It’s Maeesha I have Instagram at @athenanv13. I’m a bit slow to answer but I answer!
@immanueldarling4449
@immanueldarling4449 5 жыл бұрын
going to Berea College this fall in Kentucky and I’m thankful I get to go to there bc there’s no tuition for any student admitted(33% acceptance). Thankful I get to go and live on campus and leave home with little to no debt going into DPT school.
@gobears5497
@gobears5497 5 жыл бұрын
I am currently a freshman at Florida Gulf Coast University and i hope to go to an ivy league medical school (harvard, yale, cornell and penn are my top picks for med school) but i highly doubt i can get into any of them. But we shall see.
@CuriousBiscuit
@CuriousBiscuit 5 жыл бұрын
I wish you the best of luck on your journey!
@gobears5497
@gobears5497 5 жыл бұрын
@@CuriousBiscuit thank you
@velocity2516
@velocity2516 3 жыл бұрын
Matter or didn't matter! Ask where u want to it matter ... And how can it impact.
@markrobertson5398
@markrobertson5398 5 жыл бұрын
I LIVE IN CLARKSDALE HAHAH LIKE THIS MISSISSIPPIANS OR CLARKSADELIANS
@Henry-ki7wp
@Henry-ki7wp 4 жыл бұрын
Ucla isnt a bad public school tho?
@davids2206
@davids2206 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest effect of going to a higher ranked undergraduate school is that is simply pushes you more. One is hit hard from the first day and there is an easier transition into medical school.
@andernaugle8962
@andernaugle8962 4 жыл бұрын
I know this a very specific question, but please if you are able to answer I need advice. I’m a senior trying to select between USF honors and UF and I don’t know which is best for a biology major with a premed track.
@emmazhang2418
@emmazhang2418 3 жыл бұрын
i got a harvard add right before this video
@mondomusic1284
@mondomusic1284 5 жыл бұрын
Make more videos for us students in med school
@tcd807
@tcd807 5 жыл бұрын
Hi I am planning on going to UTD, should I try to apply to other schools with rolling admissions or not?
@shrivaishnavikarri517
@shrivaishnavikarri517 5 жыл бұрын
Tahira Chowdhury I went to UTD and I have no regrets. There are so many connections to great labs and resources. Where you go doesn’t matter as much as what you do with what is given to you.
@astrotist6926
@astrotist6926 5 жыл бұрын
I am interviewing for medical schools rn and I am gonna add to what is being said in this video. Where you go to college absolutely matters. While it is not directly the deciding factor, going to a big name university allows you better opportunities for research and involvement and the letters of rec that you get are from leaders in scientific fields. Also, the education, mentorship, and networking that you get are arguably superior which allows you to be better prepared. moreover, some medical schools have a bias for their own students. So in short, yes it does matter where you have graduated form.
@gaileesims273
@gaileesims273 4 жыл бұрын
It really depends on your character that makes you who you are and your abilities not the name label
@mymagicloulou4394
@mymagicloulou4394 5 жыл бұрын
The most important to choose university is how many that university connecting to companies? Is the company that university connecting with, is met your criteria?
@jamesandonian7829
@jamesandonian7829 5 жыл бұрын
This confirmed everything I thought, even tho I worked so hard to get into my university :/
@never_changing
@never_changing 2 жыл бұрын
Well, going to UCLA (top 30 schools in the world) is not exactly “risking it and going to a local public school”
@tutujohnson7356
@tutujohnson7356 Жыл бұрын
I am currently transferring to a school thats consider elite after community college but sometime I feel guilty going while most of my peers are transferring the state schools. It's usually not normal for people from my CC to transfer to this school and wonder if this will be the good choice. It's like when they ask me where I am transferring to then the first thing they say is "oh you got money" or "thats expensive". Also my highschool was barely competitive as going to a college was a big deal at my highschool
@okgoogle999
@okgoogle999 5 жыл бұрын
This video made me a subscriber
@PheonixStarsx
@PheonixStarsx 2 жыл бұрын
My dad says any school or education is good,getting a education is important any way you get it is good, you don’t need a fancy school name to get a good education
@invaderr2000
@invaderr2000 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Jubbal, excellent video as always. I have one question I'd like to ask. What considerations, if any, are made when passing judgement on a student who has held a job throughout their education, but possibly lacks one of the few sought out "determinant factors" such as, limited time devoted to extracurriculars, GPA, research, etc.? Thank you.
@stevensaid8468
@stevensaid8468 5 жыл бұрын
Is university of Washington Seattle considered elite school ?
@Mani-jo5lq
@Mani-jo5lq 4 жыл бұрын
Dongdinger what about unc chapel hill
@jessicahall6549
@jessicahall6549 4 жыл бұрын
Mani Reed UNC at chapel hill is seen as prestigious. It’s definitely a top 20 school. The MSAR can help you with this, it lists average statistics for every MD school in the US.
@elijahdavis1827
@elijahdavis1827 2 жыл бұрын
Big helpful fr fr
@meidelyngomez
@meidelyngomez 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou! I think most people need this.
@Asaz12345
@Asaz12345 5 жыл бұрын
Does med school prestige matter?
@carmencita22
@carmencita22 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! I am a spanish first year medical student (studying in Universidad de Barcelona) and I want to do the residency in USA. I would really appreciate it if you could do a video about IMGs. Love all your videos, thank you for your great work!!
@martinwhite2792
@martinwhite2792 5 жыл бұрын
That's kinda not true though. It has a better effect on people without money because they are trying to change that situation and will work ten times harder. As a teacher, I have seen people who believe they belong there never actually accomplish anything (rich people) and get carried along. However, people who couldn't afford it went above and beyond to make it work for them.
@dirtlint8311
@dirtlint8311 5 жыл бұрын
great video. For undergrad biology major, is UT austin or Washington U at St Louis better? with long term plan MD or PA.
@stephane1623
@stephane1623 5 жыл бұрын
Please let me know what program do you use to make your videos (infographics) so interact! thank you! I went to an Ivy League for graduate school and I confidently say that it has open doors that would otherwise not be possible. I made the most of the resources.
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