So You Want to Be a PHYSIATRIST (PM&R) [Ep. 26]

[@mh7915]

This is literally the specialty I’ve been looking for! I liked ortho but I didn’t want to be a surgeon, liked plastic because of the in clinic procedures, liked anesthesia but it didn’t feel personal enough, and wanted to do something that worked directly with patients. I’m a super patient and optimistic person! This sounds perfect. Thank you for making this video!

[@eytankoch6623]

PM&R doc here. Let me know if you have any questions.

[@annmay9667]

@@eytankoch6623 would you say the pay mentioned here is accurate. I’m asking bc I tried to google it and google is giving me numbers in the low to mid 200 peaking at around 310?

[@Beril_.]

⁠@@eytankoch6623 is pmr img friendly?

[@jacobpereramd8094]

Just matched this year into PM&R at my top choice! Cant wait to get started :)

[@user-bl7kg7tj1c]

congrats!!

[@yellow8206]

Plenty of money and relaxation!!

[@Kosm2599]

ahh congratulations!!

[@asamvav]

Congratulations 👍

[@EytanKoch]

Congrats from a PM&R PGY4. Feel free to ask anything.

[@jasonlopez8499]

this specialty almost sounded like one of the best kept secrets

[@CoronaryArteryDisease.]

That is what I was thinking! The lifestyle seems decent and pain management can be very meaningful

[@CuriousDoc]

PM&R are some of the most laidback and nicest doctors I've ever met!

[@dfwdfw9544]

Oddly enough, I think I would have to agree with you. I'm just a patient, but I've had the misfortune of needing to see a bunch of specialists in different disciplines - physiatry, physical therapy, psychiatry, psychotherapy, neurology, dermatology, ophthalmology, urology, immunology and (obviously) internal medicine. The only bad encounter I've had with any MD was with a psychiatrist who was likely in the middle of a severe case of burn-out. The physiatrist, however, was a fantastic doctor of exceptional ability with an extraordinary bedside manner. I genuinely liked her from the moment she introduced her. (I'm usually the kind of patient who cares more about an MD's abilities and credentials than their bedside manner.) Then, she looked at my medical history and various diagnoses and decided to take the lead in trying to coordinate care, "move beyond being treated as someone with a mysterious syndrome" and cut back on the multi-pharmacy that had built up around me

[@GoodByeSkyHarborLive]

​@@dfwdfw9544do they prescribe pain meds or no?

[@compilationlou8337]

well, you have to present yourself as the "laidback" doctor because your patients are either in pain or disabled. The last thing they want is to hear bad news.

[@karniksoghomonian1985]

"So you want to be a pathologist" next please!

[@ghostpepper618]

yes please!!

[@mr.noodle7984]

This!!!!!!!

[@DragosRoute66]

Yes!!! Please, I’ve been waiting forever!

[@allysaalejo331]

yes please

[@mia830]

This just gave me so much clarity. I'm a third-year DO student, and I really hadn't had that "aha!" moment for what I want to pursue. I've just been coasting through rotations. I know what topics I like and the lifestyle I want, but this seems to be the speciality that encompasses everything I'm looking for in a career and with patient care. Thank you so much for this video!

[@robbob5258]

Pathology, Rheumatology, Nephrology, Oncology, Hematology? Thank you so much for the consistent uploads 👏🙌

[@Kwittiekat]

Most of the time hematology and oncology is combined!

[@destineejones555]

Can you make “ so you want to be a oncologist “

[@nuruddeenkabirbulkachuwa6454]

I've been begging🥺

[@Valour-qh9ie]

I asked so many times , 😭😭😭

[@MultiLuckychris]

so you want to be a oncologist?

[@nuruddeenkabirbulkachuwa6454]

@@MultiLuckychris yesss

[@chels2394]

Yesss. I was about to comment this. I hope they go into the different types of oncology like radiation and surgical, etc

[@prateekmisra8251]

We need one on Pathology! :(

[@baylorwiggins9781]

YESSSS thank you so much for doing this video.

[@donluz827]

I’ve seen a physiatrist every 2 weeks for a year now for a back injury I’ve suffered at my job. He’s a complete gem of a human and even though my progress is slow and I’ll never be back to 100% he keeps my spirits up. Definitely a speciality I’d look into if I got into med school

[@god_god_8054]

you mean when you get into med school

[@Kosm2599]

wow, I've been struggling with what I wanted to do for a while now, I was always in between psychiatry, neurology, or optometry because I wanted to become a specialist that utilizes neuroscience, yet I kinda felt like the three didn't fit quite well with what I exactly wanted. I've been told that I should be a PT, one that subspecializes in the nervous system, but I wanted to be a medical doctor and go to med school, not PT school. However, I was doing some career researching and I stumbled upon this specialty, and I think I know what I want to be now! Every aspect of this job seems very fitting with my passions and capabilities, so it makes me so happy that I'm finally certain that I know what I want to do. Thank you so much for this video, you made me realize what I want to pursue!

[@johnathant6735]

Optometrists are not ophthalmologists.

[@Kosm2599]

@@johnathant6735 thanks, I know

[@zorac91]

I just graduated and PM&R is what I will pursue!

[@CALISUPERSPORT]

This was the specialty that made me change from pre-PA to premed. Sounds super interesting!

[@mr.noodle7984]

I hope one day we get a “So You Want to be a Pathologist”!

[@areddy1995]

Excellent representation by an excellent resident physician. I was impressed by the depth you went into and think that it'll be good for any future physicians to see.

[@ptcapc]

I’ve been waiting on this!!! Great video of such a broad specialty

[@markjtvelasquez]

I’ve been looking into PM&R! Thank you so much for the video!

[@joaoseibold777]

So you want to be an oncologist

[@amberlawson668]

I always look forward to these videos every Saturday! A great way to start the day off!

[@emilietran6373]

in a DPT program right now and was waiting for this video for so long !

[@a.d.w8385]

This seems like a very rewarding career field. Chronic pain and sudden handicaps effects so many people. Not only that it's seems a bit more laid back. My mother has spina bifida and has had to see a few of these Physicians in recent years.

[@faicotone]

I fell in love with PM&R in my 5th year. Still loves it but it has been slowly gaining popularity and it's now more competitive than ever. Still gonna try my best, see where that gets me.

[@justtoolit6051]

PM&R seems like a laid back specialty honestly

[@FacundoMD]

jaja it is ! Very competitive amazing money lay back ! I do ER but some of my friends did that !

[@TheMiniWumbo]

@@FacundoMD Amazing money? I was under the impression it was one of the lower compensated specialties.

[@ovans]

@@FacundoMD did you watch the video? Doesn't appear to be a very competitive specialty..

[@FacundoMD]

@@ovans Hey ! I guess my own experience biased my comment ! 2 years ago at least it was a big deal because you can branch into Pain management/Injections, etc making 400K a year. Was very competitive at the time. :/ oh well !

[@FacundoMD]

@@TheMiniWumbo Hey ! I guess my own experience biased my comment ! 2 years ago at least it was a big deal because you can branch into Pain management/Injections, etc making 400K a year. Was very competitive at the time. :/ oh well !

[@bbgggg123]

I WAS WAITING FOR THIS!!

[@codymutter4017]

Been waiting for this one!

[@sacdaabdurhman]

“Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway.” Sharing some love from a small KZbinr

[@WittyKitten]

I've been waiting for this one! Will be an OMS-1 this year and considering sports med vs PM&R

[@arieanloo-hernandez1724]

You don’t have consider one over the other. If you with PM&R you can then do a sports medicine fellowship after your 4 years of PM&R training.

[@nicobshaw]

Oh my God, yes!!! I've been waiting for this one!!! Thank you so much!

[@Runningpeaks]

This is my goal! I'm so excited!

[@jengojet5481]

Sounds really wholesome and like the perfect medical career path for a Hufflepuff type of person.

[@Chris-pt6hh]

I asked for this in the last video and here it is. I knew we had something special.

[@moshea1145]

I would at a private practice for a PM&R Pain doctor (didn’t realize it was rare lol) but also everything else was super accurate including that it’s extremely tough dealing with chronic pain patients every day! Rewarding for sure but it can weigh on you! Great speciality though for combination of clinic and procedure days, which I think is the best part!

[@theraccoondog7470]

Amazing work as always and unparalleled consistency! 🙏 Can't wait to one day see the RHEUMATOLOGY episode.

[@fizzybear6405]

Med School Insiders, thank you for consistently uploading in your "So you want to be" series and I'm really thankful that you did my request about nurse practitioners in your last videos, can I once again request on "so you want to be an optometrist or pathologist"? Thank you in advance 😊

[@graceMaximus]

I'm always so excited when you upload these types of videos so I can learn about all the different specialties , some I've never even heard about!! Would appreciate it soo much if you would upload an oncologist video too, it's something I'm grown curious about! ❤

[@haashimasif1835]

Yoo baby yoda gang💚💚💚

[@FacundoMD]

Ohhh NICE ONE !!! Amazing vids as always !

[@thymetime6398]

Thank you for doing this video. Keep up the good work!

[@mohamedomar4123]

Please make a piece on mid-level encroachment 🙏🏻

[@adonis2241]

Thank you so much for doing this video. 🖤🖤

[@dailydoseofmedicinee]

Both physiatrists and orthopedists treat similar conditions, mainly musculoskeletal injuries, but orthopedists have the additional training to provide surgery as a treatment option, whereas physiatrists do not perform surgery. Many orthopedists and physiatrists do work in the same office.👍

[@febrianmulyasantausa4515]

You made it sound like physiatrist is an orthopedists w/o surgery skill. Imo their point of views are very different. This video doesn't explain enough about that. Orthopedists focus on musculoskeletal anatomy, PM&R focuses on function. While that sounds abstract, it's actually the only thing that the patient cares. For example, when total knee arthroplasty is performed, the patient did not really care about the fit of the prosthesis, they care about when will they be able to walk normally again without pain. PM&R focuses on that. With that being said, the interventions vary A LOT as long as the goal is to increase function, which means, it includes not only MSK cases, but also neurology, pediatrics, geriatrics, sports injury, and even cardiopulmonary problems. It certainly doesn't have the fancy vibe of the surgical specialties, but its patient-centered approach is second to none among other specialties.

[@asamvav]

Actually we do perform rehabilitation surgery - tendon lengthening, tendon transfers, osteotomies, joint replacements, burn contracture release, skin flap construction etc here in India and other parts of the world. We don't do surgery for acute trauma. Rehabilitation Medicine essentially treats any person with temporary or permanent disabilities. The Physical Medicine is the non-surgical component. And what he didn't mention is Rheumatology. We do a ton of that. It's normal for other doctors to not really get what we do or confuse us with therapists with whom we work closely. I think ABPMR and AAPMR and other resources will give you a better idea. Or you could speak to a Physiatrist.

[@aamy7799]

​@@asamvav hey. Doctor. I am a mbbs graduate from India. I would like to know how difficult to get a job after PMR in india after pg?

[@saiaung2597]

Been waiting for this for so long

[@cadoferrer2858]

Can't wait for "So You Want To Be an Epidemiologist".

[@Proozerbroozer]

Epidemiologists are not physicians. It's a master's level degree.

[@cadoferrer2858]

No offense. Yes I know that epidemiologists are professionals in the medical field, but aren’t necessarily doctors. But so are nurse practitioners and PAs. And yet, they're featured as well in this playlist...

[@JoseHueso08]

@@Proozerbroozer why does that matter? He did a video on NP’s and PA’s.

[@kys9611]

@@JoseHueso08 because PAs and nurses are the only professions people compare to doctors. Epidemiology would be way off since most people don’t even know what they do.

[@kys9611]

@@cadoferrer2858 because PAs and nurses are the only professions people compare to doctors. Epidemiology would be way off since most people don’t even know what they do.

[@Eagletraucer024]

Loved this video!!! Thanks so much for your hard work we appreciate you!

[@TheColinShowGaming]

Howdy! Great video! Very well explained. Is there any chance you guys could make a "So You Want To Be" video on becoming a Physical Therapist or Physical Therapist Assistant? There aren't a ton of high-quality videos on the subject, and you guys always make these kinds of topics so interesting and informative. Thank you!

[@sophieamarant1536]

I want to be a epileptologist. I have CP myself and have a PM&R follow up for Botox in about two weeks. My PM&R is on a spasticity team.

[@blessyponnachen9528]

Awesome , You read my mind.

[@BashirAhmed-vh5rq]

Can you please do a video on "So you want to be" physical tharapist, occupational tharapist and last but not least speech tharapist ? Thanks

[@DD-tq4wd]

Thanks so much for this! Applying for PM&R this cycle and quality information on the specialty is hard to come by!

[@lickerswalrus5781]

Im an undergrad and I work at a Physiatry clinic. Since I live in an opioid/bad health epicenter of the US, its the busiest clinic in the area by far.

[@yenvu6782]

"so you want to be a Pulmonologist/ICU" would be awesome!

[@amberlawson668]

Would love a vascular surgeon video in the future!

[@alluneedislove7460]

Please do a video on being an Occupational Therapist 🥰 thank you for the amazing videos

[@adurufoc6099]

You should make a video about Sleep Medicine Physician or Somnology

[@lolajay1768]

PM&R - plenty of money and relaxation. Waayy better lifestyle than surgery

[@loclam6154]

Yay! Finally 😀 Thank you for the video!

[@doctorjungman]

Thank you for this video!! Loved it!!

[@vinniebisson969]

“So you want to be a pharmacist” next please

[@marissak78]

Highly needed!!

[@TimeWillShell]

Ah I’ve been waiting on this one!!

[@christalburgess3013]

Please do a "so you want to be a pharmacist" and "so you want to be a pharmacy technician" Thanks in advance!

[@mrarcade2504]

Can we do family medicine next

[@berthshemeshhasing3969]

At one point I've confused a physiatrist profession with a physiotherapist. It would be nice if you could do a comparison video of these two awesome professions.

[@basmalhahmed9453]

What's the difference??

[@DarkKnight-wu1uu]

Hey, are the newsletters not being sent anymore?

[@imenhashim6943]

Hi Kevin! I turned on notifications, give me a headpat please :)

[@joyleenstrozier4295]

Hi Medical School Insiders, I like your content. I love watching your videos.

[@larissagemmer-block3125]

Wow, I had never even heard of this specialty before! Thank you for making this. I am undecided between pursuing chiropractic or medical school, this specialty could prove a nice fit for me.

[@minananananan1842]

Thanks so much for this

[@jefferddaniel1989]

Hi, my brother is in PT school and he said that PT’s are educated on manage pain, spasticity, and neuromuscular dysfunction which was not included in the list. They actively engage in improving that patient.

[@cheetahgoldenfire]

Can you do a video on prescribing psychologists, or do you see this new emerging phenomenon as part of the midlevel creep?

[@kunashe5092]

PLEASE PLEASE DO "so you want to be a pathologist"

[@Carlos6392ful]

Thank you for the video!

[@e.j.jierolamora5779]

Would love to see "So you want to be a Medical Technologist"🙏🏻❤

[@FacundoMD]

ER doctor here !!! AMaZING CHOICE MY wife did that for 10 years ! She is a PA student now. SADLY many people have no idea what that is !

[@muhammedbilalk.v2975]

Please do a video on clinical hematology

[@hlh9848]

Please do " so you want to become a nephrologist "

[@user-bl7kg7tj1c]

yayyy thank you for this video!!

[@zsazsagalor6447]

Can we get a video on family medicine?

[@kavinduyallarawa7248]

Endocrinologist please 🙏

[@ChrisRRT]

EMS Provider please 🙏🙏🙏

[@MatthewJ24]

Can’t wait for “so you want to be a neonatal surgeon”🙈

[@dirk2655]

While trying to create a specialty branch...the tree wont work at all, truncated. In any national emergency, a doctor must be able to function within all 20 plus specialties... So I know the specialties or rather residencies were by hours and subject matter gained and covered and viewed (must, electives and optional, and revisits for the missed). Waiting 4 years to see 1 case or having missed all of them is not the best idea. Why, because you can still be working on another residency and then come back to the 1st or 3rd to see what you didn't get there. Then it's topped off, I think by revisiting the specialty you will practice....so doing all 20 or 15 residencies in the past was about 2 to 5 years up to 10 to 20...because the content of what is normal and abnormal and arely seen was always measured.

[@NoobsDeSroobs]

"So you want to be a dangerous quack?" (Alternative medicine) is going to be a fun one...

[@magdalinekovalchuk]

wdym

[@on3shot517]

Can you do infectious diseases physician and Endocrinologist please

[@kristinafejzollari]

You should do a video "so you want to be a nutritionist" it will be so interesting!

[@RiaanDS]

I was wondering if u can make a vid about being a doctor in Australia.

[@MedSchoolInsiders]

It's on our radar. Should be out within the first half of 2025.

[@parniatarokh1455]

Can you please make a video of so you want to be oncologist with fellowships version please!

[@turgaykaya1490]

in turkey rheumatology is a subspecialty of pm&r and internal medicine, thats why i am a resident in pm&r, i think its awesome.

[@hamedeid2871]

So the difference between pm&r and physiotherapy is medication and injections which physios in uk and Australia are licensed to do ? So what is the real difference

[@KYALEONE]

Thank you for this!

[@jenieldiaz5751]

“So you want to be a pathologist.” or “So you want to be a Forensic Pathologist.” Please!!!

[@lifanxu3270]

Hello, Dr. Jubbal. Thank you for this informative video! I have a quick question regarding one of your commentaries on PM&R. So at 0:49, you said "PM&R is the jack-of-all-trades specialty...". What exactly did you mean by "jack-of-all-trades?" when it comes to PM&R? I was linking this to general practitioners such as family medicine, am I sort of correct? I will deeply appreciate a response from you. Sincerely, Lifan

[@EytanKoch]

I’m a PM&R PGY4. Maybe “jack of all trades” is a bit much but in a Venn diagram, we’re sort of the intersection of ortho, rheum, neuro, neurosurgery, PT, OT, SLP, aspects of all of which we have to know for our boards. Not too mention the straight PM&R stuff we have to know.

[@lifanxu3270]

@@EytanKoch Thank you fo the insight!

[@GoodByeSkyHarborLive]

​​@@EytanKochAre you able to perform EMGs and look for any muscle disease like neurologist or just the radiculopathies? Are all physiatrist able to? And how about reading and interpreting shoulder and chest MRIs?

[@EytanKoch]

@@GoodByeSkyHarborLive Great question. As a matter of fact, physiatrists were the first doctors in this country to do EMGs, before neurologists. We learn EMGs in residency, in fact, have to do 200 to graduate. We don't need to do an EMG fellowship, although some do, and then get REALLY good at it. I'd say despite this, most physiatrists don't do EMGs. EMG's kind of a pain. Especially the NCS portion. But in theory, yes, we could look for muscle disease. One of my mentors is a physiatrist does EMGs full time. She can diagnose ALS, myopathies, whatever. But many physiatrists, if they do EMGs, they more or less stick with radiculopathy vs peripheral neuropathy type questions. I myself do EMGs infrequently, and yeah, for me it's more like, let's see if these symptoms you're having are coming from your neck (radiculopathy) or your from your wrist (carpal tunnel), because it would suck to have surgery on your neck if the problem was really coming from your wrist. If I suspect someone has ALS or some sort of inflammatory myopathy, I refer to a different EMG person. MRIs...well, yes, in residency we look at a fair number of MRIs, and I'd say it probably depends on the program or even the individual as to how good you are at reading them. It also depends on what kind of career you end up doing. So if you decide to go into stroke rehab, for example, you will get very good at reading brain MRIs, but maybe not shoulder. If you go into musculoskeletal medicine, you maybe be excellent at shoulders and hips, but not great with brains. I'd say that most physiatrists are at least decent at reading joint MRIs. But you mention chest. That's not a joint. We will generally be looking at joints, not internal organs (hearts, lungs, pleura, and whatever else may be in the thoracic cavity).

[@Dr.TusharsinghRajpurohit]

How you edit your video please say

[@abhinavaa1325]

Please make a video on img friendly specialities

[@vasilisgiannatos1319]

Been waiting for this

[@noorjahan1217]

What if you want to choose hospital administration or any other branch where we dont have to study that much. Plzzz answer

[@ryanr4382]

I was just looking for this the other day lmao

[@owenlambert7276]

So you want to be a Doctor of Physical Therapist?

[@litteve]

Yes I hope he does this one soon

[@blessyponnachen9528]

Physiatrist will be present on teaching hospital or medical college hospital?

[@edenleave2054]

Why is there not one KZbin video on private practice physiatrist

[@thephantomfx]

Please do so you want to be a Hematologist/Oncologist next!

[@Anna-et7lw]

Hiii! Could you please make a “so you want to be a pharmacist” If you haven’t already