Nikolai Roslavets ‒ 3 Etudes

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Medtnaculus

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@MyDominiqueG
@MyDominiqueG 5 жыл бұрын
These amazing works by Roslavets, performed here with such care, love AND virtuosity, are a real insight into the new freedom and invention felt so briefly in the Soviet Union of the 1920s. To imagine that he was an outcast from 1930 until his death in 1944! Yet even today Roslavets remains a marginal figure, unplayed and untaught in conservatoires around the world. Let's meet that challenge!
@legojack7711
@legojack7711 4 жыл бұрын
Amazingly, I just received two of his preludes as mandatory pieces to perform in a competition next two weeks! Expressively, they combine the fluidity of Debussy with elegant atonality, I am quite astonished by the quality of the composer!
@BilliePosters
@BilliePosters 2 жыл бұрын
I hate all classical music except for Roslavets. I am u cultured but these songs shake me to my core and fill me with emotion and inspiration
@Racosz
@Racosz 6 жыл бұрын
Post-Scriabin. Simply awesome.
@bonnylevine869
@bonnylevine869 7 жыл бұрын
extraordinary difficult and amazing pieces, bravo to the performer!
@perry1559
@perry1559 6 жыл бұрын
Bonny Levine I saw Hamelin play these about 15-20 years ago. He said it’s some of the most difficult music he’s ever played, especially that first Etude, which he said he had to re-notate to make it easier to read.
@pianodionisíaco
@pianodionisíaco 2 жыл бұрын
He will be appreciated in 2223.
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 жыл бұрын
Learning these right now, thanks a lot!
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 жыл бұрын
Great work on doing this. I love how the pianist ignores the technical emphasis and brings the nuances amazingly!
@MegaCirse
@MegaCirse 3 жыл бұрын
L'œuvre de Roslavets est à découvrir par elle-même, sans nécessairement faire référence à Schönberg. Elle a une profonde originalité et sans la tragédie de sa vie, Roslavets serait peut-être devenu l'un des compositeurs soviétiques les plus importants de sa génération.
@haotianyu6368
@haotianyu6368 9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful channel! Great to see Roslavets scores!
@roslavetsfan7442
@roslavetsfan7442 3 жыл бұрын
I like the third one very much
@gentle_goy23432
@gentle_goy23432 11 ай бұрын
Второй сладкий этюд выражает интересней образ. Я бы сказал , что это что то облачное ну или полётное. Что то красиво летит по воздуху. Прекрасные этюды.
@ThomasLittleComposer
@ThomasLittleComposer 9 жыл бұрын
The triple sharp at 6:17 makes me wonder why Roslavets didn't use enharmonics.
@georgecziffra
@georgecziffra 9 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Little Roslavets did originally write his pieces enharmonically, but adjusted them for publication so they would accurately spell out the synthetic chords as he envisioned them
@georgecziffra
@georgecziffra 8 жыл бұрын
It seems he writes new chords for each piece. In the first etude his chord is spelled Cb, C#, D, Eb, F, Gb, G, A, Bb. You'll notice that the chords at the end of this etude are in the same position as the beginning, lending some semblance of tonality to the piece. This seems to be something Roslavets does in all his synthetic pieces (at least all the ones I've analyzed). Etude No. 2's chord is spelled Eb, E#, F#, A#, B, C#, D; again in the same position at the beginning and end of the piece. Etude No. 3's chord is Cb, C, D, Eb, (F?)Gb, G, A, Bb. This one I'm a little unsure about because the F (or whichever note that would be in the transposition) isn't around at the beginning, but starts to appear around the meno vivo at 9:35. You can see this chord with the added F at the end of the piece as well.
@georgecziffra
@georgecziffra 8 жыл бұрын
I'm talking about the chords. Roslavets' synthetic are generally pretty thick, usually ranging from 6 to 9 notes within the chromatic scale. The order of the pitches within each group also don't seem to matter to Roslavets, unlike Schoenberg's 12 tone serialism, so I suppose it's more accurate to call these tone clusters as opposed to tone rows.
@Mintsoda_15
@Mintsoda_15 3 жыл бұрын
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@Yubin_Lee_Doramelin
@Yubin_Lee_Doramelin 8 жыл бұрын
It's really hard to find a TRIPLE SHARP in the score, and this is the second one I've ever seen. (The first one is in Alkan's Op. 39 No. 10, a.k.a. third movement of Concerto for Solo piano.)
@daveluttinen2547
@daveluttinen2547 8 жыл бұрын
The fact that there are 9 of them on one page is quite remarkable. This is an ambitious and ethereal piece - I may have to give it some time for another listen. Bravo to the performer! Thanks for posting.
@НикитаМорозов-т7у
@НикитаМорозов-т7у 7 жыл бұрын
Yubin Lee Reger Clarinet Sonata (3?)
@georgecziffra
@georgecziffra 6 жыл бұрын
There's one in the second movement of Alkan's Sonata as well
@michaeledwards1172
@michaeledwards1172 5 жыл бұрын
There are also a couple of triple-flats in Roslavets's Piano Sonata no. 1. It can be found, with score, on KZbin.
@isaroberts1778
@isaroberts1778 2 жыл бұрын
wow these go hard
@toothlesstoe
@toothlesstoe 7 жыл бұрын
I think the rhythmic nuances would be better expressed without parenthetical sub time signatures, but rather with tuplet ratios. For example, in the first etude, the triplet in the right hand in the first half of the measure should be denoted as 3:2, to indicate three 8th notes played within the span of two of the five non-tuplet 8ths; the duplet in the second half of the measure should be denoted as 2:3, to indicate two 8ths within the span of three of the five non-tuplet 8ths. Same thing with the second etude: The quadruplet in the left hand should be denoted as 4:3, and the quintuplet in the right hand denoted as 5:4. When counted out, the 16ths are almost completely even, and it matches up with the time signature. I'm sure this is what Roslavets most likely would have intended, but he could've made the notation much more lucid. Or perhaps he kept it ambiguous to facilitate a broad plethora of interpretations. Whatever the case may be, I'd prefer clarity over ambiguity.
@dalcassian8351
@dalcassian8351 7 жыл бұрын
maybe you have a point but the sublux of the rhythm would have to be subordinated by the held note divisions at bar 56 for example 6:4 would be a better signature and enharmonically suited to the notation roslavets made the correct decision to use ambiguity giving the interpreter more choice over the subliminal message it brings across however he makes a mistake with the overall tonal picture he was trying to achieve by missing out the mystic chord as ascribed to scriabin when playing this i feel ambiguity of which road i wish to take and finally clarity form the chosen road however i play it different everytime depending on my mood on the day
@toothlesstoe
@toothlesstoe 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by Roslavets making a mistake by leaving out a mystic chord; this actually sounds more mystical than Scriabin's late music, and even more sinister (the first etude does, at least). Also, the mystic chord isn't even that special--it's simply a C lydian dominant 13 chord, which, in my opinion, doesn't sound mystic at all unless, perhaps, you invert it, like Scriabin commonly did with his harmonizations in his later works. And as a sidebar, a "mystic chord" appears in Florent Schmitt's "Mauresque" (a movement out of a piece that I'm working on called _Ombres_ ) and it sounds like the exact opposite of "mystic"; in fact, it sounds scintillating and cheerful. I guess it really depends on the context the chord is placed in.
@scriabinismydog2439
@scriabinismydog2439 4 жыл бұрын
​@@dalcassian8351 As toothless pointed out, the prometheus/mystic chord is just a lydian dominant 13 chord, and it's "mystic quality" is derived from the quartal voicings in which Scriabin uses it. Also, the "chord" almost never appears as a chord, but as a source of melodic/thematic material, or more correlctly as an "harmonic field" let's say, to resolve from the octatonic scale (eg.7th Sonata). Scriabin's mystic chord isn't actually the only "special" chord he used, he used another type of hexachord (it appears in the 8th Sonata) but right now I can't remember the Forte indication. Roslavets' Synthetic Chords are used in a really similar way, but in Roslavets' case the chords are more variegated and make less interactions with other scales, and they can go from 6 pitches per chord to 9. They're similar, but looking more closely you can easily define what is Roslavets and what is Scriabin. Roslavets sounds (imo) way less ecstatic/rapturous and more dark/nocturnal.
@fisherroastedpeanut
@fisherroastedpeanut 2 жыл бұрын
No.3 = A. Scriabin prelude 74 no.5
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul 2 жыл бұрын
1st one has to be he most difficult piano etude ever composed.
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul 2 жыл бұрын
Deam I am thinking on Bartok etudes...I am confused.
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul 2 жыл бұрын
What about Godowski or Liszt, or Rachmaninoff or Scriabin? Or even Stravinsky?
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say Roslavets n1 is my favorite of all etudes I have heard.
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul
@AlbertoHernandez-zm9ul 2 жыл бұрын
Deam the second one is even harder!!!!!!!!
@johnlindstrom9994
@johnlindstrom9994 6 жыл бұрын
Most like Sorabji, of other piano composers. Yet, these two have nothing in common ethnically, politically, or religiously. So WHY ARE THEY SIMILAR? Something in the Air? Must be something about Science, which has swamped all cultures now.
@toothlesstoe
@toothlesstoe 5 жыл бұрын
The similarity between the two sounds marginal to me.
@DihelsonMendonca
@DihelsonMendonca 3 жыл бұрын
Scriabin. That´s it !
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 3 жыл бұрын
@@DihelsonMendonca An over-simplification I can agree with.
@michaeledwards1172
@michaeledwards1172 3 жыл бұрын
This is much more organized and disciplined than Sorabji; I don't particularly see a resemblance. More like Scriabin, perhaps. Sorabji gives the impression of overflowing with ideas and letting them all spill out, perhaps a bit higgledy-piggledy, and there is a certain chaos about his music. Roslavets, for all the esoteric and difficult style of his harmony, gives the impression that every chord, almost every note, is planned according to a broad scheme, and that it couldn't really be changed.
@johnlindstrom9994
@johnlindstrom9994 3 жыл бұрын
@@toothlesstoe Roslavets has a distinct rhythmic pulse. Sorabji doesn't, sounding far more random. They both are very "CLINKY." Of the two, Roslavets is far more restrained and repetitive. Sorabji releases photons in every which direction!!
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