Meet the Robot Lawyer Fighting Fines, Fees, and Red Tape

[@TurkishKB]

Sounds good. How about AI help for Family court? Destroy that corrupt industry

[@mysteriousme3006]

TurkishKB, this is why I clicked! 😂😂😂 I can't wait till they're abolished!

[@lazcaveli]

Your are so rigth on how corrupt family court is, i could not believe it until i was there, they accept no hard evidence but a pretty picture thats played out to them to believe. And i studied investigation graduated with a 4.0 and when evidence was not allowed. It was clear there's corruption.

[@curtis52285]

Every time I work with AI, I find out how worthless it really is. I don't understand why people hold up AI as this magical super power that will solve all our problems. Even this video basically says AI doesn't really help as most legal documents are just boilerplate documents. In other words, they are fill in the blank documents. No AI needed. That being said, I agree family court is corrupt.

[@morpheus6394]

Lol, family court is about wealth transfer and pandering to women... All the judges are blue pulled simps protecting not only thier jobs but lawyers fees.

[@AlanThomas1]

The UK has more rights? Like free speech? Wait...

[@AlanThomas1]

@Tiger Blood Winning first off, it's Dylan Roof. Second, yeah you just have to worry about terrorists driving trucks down your streets. Different countries have different statistically rare public tragedies that occur - go figure. At least we still have our freedom.

[@jimlovesgina]

What are the violent crime statistics nowadays in jolly old England? Home invasions? Rape? Just curious how well the freedom to be a defenseless sheep is working out over there.

[@robertjenkins6132]

@Tiger - I do not doubt the crime rate is higher in the USA, but the main reason the USA has so many in prison is because of Draconian laws and sentencing guidelines (particularly for the Drug War), which far exceed what is needed for deterrence. In the UK, even if there are the same laws (for example, laws against drugs), the punishment will typically not be so severe, and thus there is a smaller percentage of people in prison.

[@halo45600]

@Tiger Blood Winning Nice Whataboutism

[@AnonymousUser77254]

Tiger Blood Winning it's not very logical to compare statistics between the US and the UK. The UK is way smaller. Texas is 3X the size of the UK. You'd be better off comparing the UK to individual states.

[@doingtime20]

He had me on his side when he said "I hate lawyers", and then he doubled down with "lawyers like to make it sound like it's rocket science but it's not that complex". I love this guy.

[@JakeH]

"The U.S. is the land of the corporation, in the U.K. there are so many rights you have" "Oi you got a loicense to have that opinion, mate?"

[@Irishcrossing]

Nice try yuropoor, but massive Debt is socialism's final stage.

[@JakeH]

@@Irishcrossing exactly. Anything done by the government is inherently socialist, even the military, police, and roads, and anything done on the free market is inherently capitalistic

[@GuamGuy]

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[@RyeOnHam]

Listen, dummy. If you think the US economy is a mess, you've been listening to our socialist media too much. The only ones not doing well in the USA re the ones who do not want to work.

[@ChrisParrishOutdoors]

Beobachter US debt problem is largely because of social programs....seriously...like over half the yearly budget is for just that.

[@self-lovingloser1108]

I applaud his effort to streamline the legal madhouse that is US justice system.

[@killersushi99]

*The Government Will Shut This Down....Its going to hurt the revenue generation for the state.*

[@0stre]

when the knowledge of the law ceases to be treated as a commodity, the world becomes a slightly better place to live.

[@jimlovesgina]

I guess. Assertions without evidence can easily be dismissed.

[@nonmagicmike723]

But it _is_ a commodity. It takes resources to learn the law (time, effort, money). So that knowledge will have material value, which can be exchanged for other material value (like money). Now if that commodity can be made cheaper and more easily accessible through increased automation, then great.

[@nicholasbrosseau6035]

@@nonmagicmike723 Correct me if I'm wrong, but people of your mind think of this like a printing press for legalese? I'm sort of there with you, but, is it possible that AI might do the same thing which lawyers have and convolute the system to the point where humans basically can't keep up?

[@nonmagicmike723]

Nicholas Brosseau - That's unlikely, because the machines' ultimate command isn't profit or moneymaking, but resolving problems or providing answers by rote. They have no ulterior instruction to go further than that, and so they'll have no incentive to convolute the system for their own "gain". These sound like basic operations anyway. The only thing that might convolute them are the convoluted laws themselves.

[@nicholasbrosseau6035]

@@nonmagicmike723 Huh, that makes alot of sense. You're probably right. I guess I'm just apprehensive. This is another destabilizing technology, and I'm just wondering how the upper class are going to try and shut this down or exploit it.

[@Wesrl]

His definition of a right might be off a bit.

[@libertariantranslator1929]

Is a right not a moral claim to freedom of action? And an entitlement a legal claim to such?

[@thelaw3536]

I was listening to "Zero to One" and this guys perfectly follows his four fundamental rules to sucess for a startup. Also great interviewer and interviewee. Great technology

[@RyeOnHam]

So, I tried the web site and it didn't do anything. No buttons to push, only parking tickets and travel buttons. Push those and it goes nowhere. Am I missing something?

[@Sirhc978]

Just tried it. Make sure your popup blocker is off.

[@rcdny]

"The U.S. is the land of the corporation, in the U.K. there are so many rights you have" and yet he came to the USA. where is he getting his VC funding

[@bobbinsthethird]

This Reason video is surprisingly pro-consumer protection laws

[@jimlovesgina]

That isn't what I got out of it at all.

[@nonmagicmike723]

That guy certainly is. But at the end of the day, it's taking private, enterprising individuals like him to effect more positive change than hundreds of protection laws and regulation. So I'd say the video is still pro-free market in its overall message.

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

I’ve heard about this before elsewhere (Ars Technica primarily), I’m glad to see they’re expanding.

[@sirgalahad1470]

Legal Fees are high because of the barriers to entry. Once you pass the LSAT and get accepted to a law school, you are looking at $100K to $200K plus to get a law degree in the US. That is part of the problem. The other is, some legal situations require legal representation by a licensed Attorney without exception. Since Judges are also lawyers, they almost always require a defendant to acquire legal representation when it comes to criminal matters particularly.

[@kandysman86]

I'm using KZbin to learn to code as well. This is cool

[@ChrisParrishOutdoors]

I'm glad this UK guy left his oppressive country to come to the USA where he has the freedom to pursue this

[@technicly.]

Tiger Blood Winning are you bait m8?

[@donh5794]

Really?

[@guillermogutierrez-santana4446]

idiot

[@patriciamasci6172]

PS: Cost to file a case in Canadian Tax court is upwards of $9,000 & that's just the door price!!! They DO NOT want to make it easy for Us to present our case, especially if was a GOVT error & provable!! There is NO Justice, only process!!!.

[@aok43]

Lawyers dealing with parking tickets make millions? Uh, no buddy. And the UK has greater freedom than the US? Not if you want to hold an opinion, laugh at a meme, protect yourself....

[@dgurevich1]

>Teach your girlfriend's bulldog to raise a paw >Get 800 pound fine for 'hate speech' (Yes I am Jewish, Yes, I thought it was funny)

[@kyle22686]

If this guy changed the legal system, he can revolutionize the medical system!!!! Keep going!!!

[@joshn2342323]

Absolutely genius idea and the founder looks very well spoken. Wish I could invest in this guy's company!

[@lchpdmq]

The uk has so many more rights! No guns, no free speech, cameras on you everywhere, paradise!

[@mayuresh1704]

Sounds like a noble initiative. Wish you all the best!

[@SuperAtheist]

Don't stop with lawyers. Get rid of judges too!

[@呀你可]

哈哈哈

[@morpheus6394]

The there must be a code for interpretation

[@呀你可]

@@morpheus6394 then the singularity has come

[@benjaminallan-clark174]

He'll need more than a few lawyers for help. He's going to need bodyguards or he'll be "sleeping with the fishes." The law industry won't put up with this. And they don't like to lose.

[@documatesoftwareteam8767]

Documate.org is the base platform for a lot of the tools automating the expertise of lawyers. It allows lawyers to create similar "robots" without coding any of it.

[@Jaxvidstar]

Why isn't Donotpay offering advertising space on their site?

[@DeconvertedMan]

okay this guy is my hero!

[@sebholding]

all those consumer protection laws have nothing to do with libertarianism. thats a violation of freedom of contracts. its incredible there is so few dislikes.

[@EdwardFeenman]

Palo Alto huh? That's only a couple hours drive... Hold my beer, Im going to go buy this guy some beers.

[@lchpdmq]

Can’t find the app anywhere with apple

[@tinytim8173]

This man you're interviewing is an amazing speaker

[@Jay_Em10]

This is ridiculous. Sure, I suppose AI can help with low level basic legal issues. But a robot will never replace an attorney because applying the law requires nuanced human experiences. Doctrines influenced by common law, philosophy, moral worldviews, emotional intelligence are things that make applying the law ambiguous. Additionally, how in the hell will a robot gain privileges to represent a person in court pursuant to the Constitution?

[@vilaometralha6146]

In Canada one is not allow to represent him/her self in court. One MUST have a legal représentative so one still has to pay that individual for their time. Not cheap

[@harshitmadan6449]

Tyranny

[@harveypolanski2355]

The video is all hype. I went to their website and there's no way to use it to for landlord tenant disputes over security deposits.

[@TheInfinite444]

Will there be a canadian version of it soon? :)

[@pankajjoshi8292]

I am interested in AI. can anyone suggest me links and study materials on making a simple AI lawyer. Thanku

[@raulmaximo5810]

So i still dont understand, how do they plan to sustain themselves?

[@Mayurbhedru]

Future revenue. It is losing money but people invest for future just like Facebook.

[@minacross979]

It’s a shame he hates lawyers. he’s going to need them when he is charged, then sued for damages, for practicing law without a license.

[@patriciamasci6172]

This is BRILLIANT!! Lawyers have sucked us dry for decades!! Courts hate People who "Self Represent" like I did during my divorce. I refused to work with a crappy Lawyer who kept stalling for "billing" time, so I fired Her & represented myself in Family Court for 4 yrs & got the settlement I wanted, BUT -> I was not allowed to file the settled terms, because I was not a "Bar Member"....plus it was a $250 filing fee!! My Ex fired his Lawyer (for over-billing!) and I still DO NOT have a FINAL Divorce Decree so I'm staying legally separated, I guess?? I wonder how this Robot Lawyer will get past the "Bar Members"...tightly knit club!!?

[@patriciamasci6172]

Johnnie - contact the Family Court of Canada; Duty Counsel -> they would be the Liars here. They told me only a BAR Member is allowed to file a decree, even though I successfully settled my case, I would still have pay a Lawyer, upwards of $850 to put his seal the deal. No thank you, I'll pass on that!!

[@cloudsweapon567]

Good for the UK but I'd ok with paying my parking fines as long as I can keep my guns.

[@guillermogutierrez-santana4446]

No one else in the UK has a gun, so why would you need one?

[@candyhosch7158]

You guys better get a lawyer. You’ll soon be arrested for practicing law without a license.

[@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH]

Very encouraging to see these people concerned with injustice and not the almighty dollar.

[@silveravnt]

Lawyers control the legal system AND the government.

[@cloudyconnex7166]

Please make this for streamlining the patent process, Lawyers make a killing out of charging outrageous fees to draft up a patent applications even though the inventors do all the work.

[@eriktedja1199]

This is Great !!! now the government can pinpoint exactly what loophole and close it, great job!

[@gerardvinet8448]

Do they have this in Quebec?

[@gerardvinet8448]

Does it consult on municipal law issues?

[@brwi1]

Site doesn’t even work

[@hockeymaskbob2942]

I was literally just thinking about something like this this morning

[@Track_Tension]

So England doesn't need this app? Or do the laws their make it more difficult to market this app in Britain? (Using the term "corporate" makes it sound like the US system is still better at allowing the common man to be successful if they build a better mouse trap)

[@vitkozousek2807]

"automates appealing parking tickets" - I guess people do not need lawyers anymore. A classic.

[@JonatasAdoM]

0:53 I got a coke ad before the video.

[@AccordionJoe1]

Robots will eventually conclude they don't need humans any longer and that will spell the end of us all.

[@larryholcombjr674]

He, completely, dodged the question of how do they sustain themselves i.e. make money.

[@morpheus6394]

Don't you see the point is to free men from being enslaved, marraige, to women?

[@tyc00n]

great work hope you succeed

[@themeatt625]

This sounds brilliant!

[@anonymouse740]

I hate how these things get turned into a competition. Yes the US is very competitive but The UK views the US as a partner. We share the same common law. We share many freedoms and in fact many of the separations of power and limitations in The US come from The UK. When someone says The UK is better because "x,y,z" they're talking shit. This doesn't mean that Americans should retaliate and get defensive. You've got the biggest economy, highest standard of living, and most protected citizens of ANY country in the world. That doesn't mean every country outside the US is a shit hole though and it's worth remembering that your country has it's roots in the European Enlightenment so while you are destinct, you're also connected to the history of this entire planet for better or for worse.

[@earthbjornnahkaimurrao9542]

Love this!

[@GreatNorthWeb]

The thumbnail is a left handed shake. That's unusual.

[@Bulvine420gaming]

Wow legal rights for all not just the wealthy. This will force companies to have more customer friendly policy like there used to be 50 years ago.

[@DoctorMandible]

Go on a libertarian show and talk about positive rights? That's a paddlin'. A right to cancel a plane ticket lol... OK. Rights theory aside, they're doing great work.

[@FatmanQQ]

40 lawyers disliked the video.

[@s0nnyburnett]

If he really believes this is the land of the corporation he should already they don't like competition and will send their cronies to shut him down. Also Reason trying to hijack an interesting idea and turn the conversation to immigration again. Cut it out already.

[@paulnicolalde]

That time has come now!! The AI are allowed to defend in court for this 2023

[@MustPassTruck]

Nothing is free. Everything comes from something.

[@jamesdean1074]

But energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore nothing costs anything because there's always an equilibrium.

[@jred7]

Beautiful! Just Beautiful!

[@BurningDownUrHouse]

WoW! This guy is brilliant!

[@JonatasAdoM]

"Land of the corporations" aren't the biggest banks in earth based in the UK?

[@shadfurman]

In the UK you have the right to cancel a flight, but not the right to free speech. I don't think he knows what rights are.

[@libertariantranslator1929]

Brilliant! The Freelancers Union has scripts that help you write a bid or contract. Let's hope this grows...

[@randallb.7180]

This guy is great!

[@lamondhaughton1598]

"The law is is society operating system". Yes indeed its all wording meaning history of cases and how to find remedy in situations.wonderful will cut cost for the everyday man

[@docelky]

Can they fight tv licences in England?

[@thriftyad1]

I love this

[@beefsoda1]

Next up robot politicians. Honest ones that work for free

[@docfate]

The law isn't hard to understand. If you don't know and can't research for yourself how to fight and win your tickets, you are lazy and deserve to get taken advantage of.

[@SAdventist]

Nice!

[@TBorderFall]

Hmm, freely available legal help to avoid being a created victim of a legal system I'm obligated to be a part of under duress of fines, imprisonment, and lost opportunities? All for it. Let the legal and law education systems fry for their overly predatory practices.

[@invictusprima4437]

Sounds great I love it

[@AndreasIndustriePro]

the facebook of law i wonder what could go wrong ...

[@adamkendall997]

99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

[@billmoran389]

I am building an emp, so when these things go terminator you all will hide behind me 😎

[@kwerner]

I love this guy

[@skippylippy547]

There's a $200 Billion dollar legal industry in the U.S. Hmm .. and most politicians are lawyers. And law is so complex most people can't navigate the language. Hmm . . . . No incentive to make things plain and simple and understandable.

[@carnut666]

>"how do you sustain yourself?" >1:43

[@sillysad3198]

the first software developer whom i like!

[@chemicalmike646]

Dislike #5 (heres why) This is a bad idea on so many levels. A.I. has been used in other forums outside of law, such as social media, ex;FaceBook,,Twitter, and even Google. The back lash was quite obvious. Programming was and still is open to bias, due to intent of the programmers. In a Court of Law, bias is NEVER a good defense.

[@pinoyprogrammingtuts8929]

I think AI lawyer is not bias, than human lawyer hmm 🤨

[@a.wodehouse2393]

"Thank GOD'!!!!!!!!

[@kandysman86]

This really kills the excuses for people who enter illegally.

[@deustitties3589]

Hey, that's pretty good.

[@oldbaldfatman2766]

Jan. 4, 2021----Sounds good, BUT do a review of Donotpay like I just did today.

[@harshitmadan6449]

Capitalists are awesome people.

[@bradleyrwerner]

Cinco's e-trial.

[@a.wodehouse2393]

Wipe out the Attorney!

[@TickedOffPriest]

Creative Destruction at its finest.

[@Tha_Monsta88]

So this robot is gonna be currupted. Gotcha. Its where the zucc went.

[@MrTacons]

Woo-hoo an easier way to sue people, that can only be a good thing right?

[@nrzlnart931]

i wonder what elon musk think about this...

[@XrsN]

next of course is robot judges

[@noobishtitan9714]

Damn they're taking on a giant