Meeting and Recruiting Wyll as Origin Karlach

[@mollymemer]

wyll: shows up to kill karlach gale: omg can we keep him

[@avitus06]

That's a cat owner for you

[@Gryzon96]

wyll: no wyll and karlach later

[@MonsieurWeevil]

I read this in Nixie's (tiefling from "1 for all") voice...

[@LawfulBased]

3:59 This is one hell of a f°°°ing sentence if you know the whole story. It is true... what he said. So true. 😁

[@niallicius]

Gale in the throuple: STOP LICKING THE DAMN THING

[@MrFunkygoalie]

funny that Will thanks Balduran for him not being a mind flayer.

[@CharlieCat18]

Heh, never thought about that 😂

[@andyhilaire515]

😂

[@NeedmoreVodkaASAP]

Lol

[@matheussantinello1177]

lol the irony

[@Hypersaiyanike]

Had to look this one up (play D&D, but rarely Sword Coast stuff) and BOY HOWDY!!!

[@Zaxares]

I have to say, I love it how the dialogue options are written so they're pretty much what the characters WOULD say if you weren't playing them. (Like the first "Fuck's sake!" option.)

[@TheDanteEX]

I was honestly not wanting to play as Origin characters because I felt like the dialogue choices would dilute their personalities, but seeing the way these options are written gives me reassurance. Although this is a specific encounter for Karlach so I’m not sure if the rest of the game is written the same way. Like, can Lae’zel just choose not to trust Vlaakith? I feel like it would be a major internal struggle for her but it wouldn’t be if the player can just choose for her.

[@Domebuddy]

Probably because they all used to actually be voiced before they went the route of silent protagonist based on feedback.

[@fishraposo7192]

The first time I played the game it was as karlach. Literally the first word she says is "fuck". I fell in love with the game IMMEDIATELY

[@trianglemoebius]

@@DomebuddyPersonally, this has always been extremely weird to me. I get why Tav and Durge aren't voiced, since they're supposed to be the player... but it makes no sense for the Origin Characters.

[@EphemeralPseudonym]

​​@@DomebuddyWhat?? WHAT??? WHY????? WHAT FEEDBACK???? IS THE FEEDBACK IN THE ROOM WITH US RIGHT NOW? please I'm going through an existential crisis

[@GutsOfRivia]

The friendship between Wyll and Karlach is underrated.

[@PaladinGear15]

When I cooled down Karlach's infernal engine and gave her a hug with my own wizard character, I wished I could be like "now go give Wyll a hug too, dude's got one more horn than you do cause he wouldn't hurt you no matter the cost once he knew you were innocent". Wyll's a great dude and Karlach's always awesome xD

[@gummyboots]

friendshiP? nah ship full sail for me

[@jonathanfairchild]

Now I wanna ship them too on a playthrough!

[@imakecrappyvideos9360]

​​@@PaladinGear15 play as an origin wyll and give karlach a hug yourself

[@youweretheone7413]

@@gummyboots Gotta have a polygamy, fuck the twink Wyll and get pegged by dommy mommy Karlach

[@CheeseEaster]

As much as I enjoy Karlach, I don't think I could play her as an origin. I need to *hear* her sass and attitude

[@TheDanteEX]

This game was so successful I pray they add player voice lines in a future edition or something. Very unlikely though considering how much dialogue the player has. Having like 14 actors record hundreds of thousands of the same lines each sounds extreme, but them all being the same lines would actually make managing it a bit easier I imagine. I’m sure the actors wouldn’t mind having more work and they love playing these characters.

[@johndeighan2495]

Way back in early access, they actually had all the origin characters voiced from the first person perspective. The reason it got scrapped was player power, the community didn’t like it. Me included, I have to admit. But I now think that was wrong. It would be awesome to play a voiced Karlach, or Wyll, or any of them really. I think what the player base was worried about was a voiced Tav, and they ended up throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Ah well. One small way the game could have been even better than it is.

[@ChewFingers]

The promise of playing as your favourite character is that you can understand them better, get extra cutscenes and dialogue options, but while all this is true it's still mostly an underwhelming experience because the characters themselves don't actively participate as much throughout the game. I hope that Larian will improve the origin stories in the future.

[@johndeighan2495]

@@ChewFingers My view is that, all things considered, they should just cut playable origin characters. While I respect the effort, I think all that development time could have been better spent. I don't think playable origins improved BG3 all that much. The same goes for DOS2.

[@randomnickify]

​@@johndeighan2495 playing as character with a backstory is dnd staple thou.

[@owendiaram3870]

Imagine if Karlach could say that first line to Wyll, encouraging the child. "It's good advice child!" "You're on the right path, Umi... just as my friend here says- WAIT"

[@samgeorgewhitler]

That would be hilarious in all hells honesty

[@NayrAnur]

Wyll: 🎵Hey🎵 Karlach: 🎵Hey🎵 Wyll: WHAT-

[@maryhales4595]

​@@NayrAnurThe way I sang this in my head 😂😂

[@BigPapaDrewski]

I lowkey want to do a Wyll play through, and have him romance Karlach because my head cannon is if my Tav or Durge doesn’t get with her, then Wyll definitely does, because given their relationship and personal stories are kinda perfect for eachother

[@travisrolison9646]

Nah karlach got an eye for the blacksmith guy and he seems to like her also

[@kevinpeters6709]

So you’re saying one way or another Wyll will “stab” Karlach 😏

[@kevinpeters6709]

Ya know. With a mighty thrust of his rapier

[@johnlancaster2841]

I have done a Wyll run, and naturally I romanced Karlach. It’s very nice, and playing the game as him while searching for your father and interacting with Florrick is really neat.

[@CherriSkies]

At the ending party, Karlach says she's happy she gets to travel with someone she loves. (My tav convinced her to go with Wyll to hunt devils so she won't explode) My headcannon is she and him are a thing.

[@Skwlf_]

"I've not grown any tentacles yet, thank Baludran" just if he knew...

[@soham3025]

Balduran: hah, don't mention it.

[@Mithcoriel]

Came here to say this XD. You-know-who shows some mirth in response to a similar comment at the end of the game, so no doubt they were highly amused by this too. Also, it doesn't make sense to say "thank (historical figure)" instead of naming a god.

[@skynotaname2229]

wyll: "the blade of the frontiers is a name others gave me, my friends call me wyll: also wyll" constantly introduces himself as the blade of the frontiers everytime you speak to him

[@OctAugNov]

Just bard things lol.

[@IDontGetIrony]

>Real name is Jon >Despite that, people call me "Super Badass Soldier Man" >Later >"Hello, I am Super Badass Soldier Man" >Feel cooler

[@skynotaname2229]

@@IDontGetIrony pretty much

[@andrewolson5471]

Shadowheart was savage.

[@eileenconway2966]

Just fyi I’ve heard that the s word is a slur

[@KamiKaZantA]

@@eileenconway2966 Shadowheart?

[@ThiefMaster]

@@eileenconway2966After googling "savage slur": BULLSHIT. Sure, if you call indigenous people "savages", then this is obviously meant as slur/insult, but it is a fucking matter of context. Many people don't seem to have the ability to understand context and thus try to make a word bad regardless of context.

[@Tigery760]

​@eileenconway2966 Savage isn't a slur.

[@groynin]

I love how they animated her expression there. She is all smiles until she says 'friends' and activates the sass

[@alexanderstewart1074]

“Names strangers gave me” Cut the crap Wyll we hear you calling yourself the blade constantly 😂

[@koolkiwidude3820]

Being a relationship or a friendship, these two standing together will always be cannon to me

[@and4money4]

Shart's snarky quips alone make this a 10/10 game.

[@Dahlaak]

"I've not grown any tentacle yet, thank Balduran". My man, you have no idea.

[@adirosstime1774]

My brain went "What if someone made a mod were after wyll says 'give me your best shot' the teifling child 1 shots him, and you know how this child instead of Wyll, that would be funy"

[@Exonist]

What the fuck kinda shit is this...

[@Cheesefist]

I like the idea of a Karlach Wyll canon romance.

[@mercedeswalt6621]

Ah Shadowheart, the most charming of mean girls!

[@NoelistAvenger]

1:08 : I like to think that Option 2 is Karlach *genuinely* being nice about meeting Wyll. And, actually, it's probably how that line is meant to be read.

[@alexplayer8367]

I laughed at SH response

[@TheDanteEX]

I can change her. Seriously, though, I love when companions interact with each other. I wish we saw it more often.

[@sinaritsu3836]

"Excellent. If we ever become friends I'll know what to call you." (cue Karlach turns around and dabs her up silently)

[@SoulbreakerNB]

I wish we can still hear origin characters speak. It was a missed opportunity.

[@Phytoon]

Shadowheart's sass is through the roof. "If we ever become friends, I'll know what to call you."

[@rd0676]

Every time I see a scene like this I’m mind boggled by the sheer amount of dialogue they recorded

[@booleanillogical4757]

I actually kinda dislike that it doesnt rly matter what you say to try to convince him, he only beleives you bc of the tadpoles. Wish you actually had to either roll or make the right choices to conivnce him Karlach isnt evil. Like if ur with Wyll and meet Karlach normally only you see the truth thorugh the tadpole.

[@rensurise4395]

The only thing that's bother me why when we play as origin character it's still mute.... I thought when you play some origin character the dialogue you choose will be voiced.... It's kinda awkward when you used to hear flamboyant voice of asterion in first running then in the second times you play as him suddenly he is muted....

[@AvianEdits]

every time Wyll says "Advicatus diaboli" I die from cringe a little

[@naif9464]

Hello, Mizora

[@Lowdian]

Avocado diaboli!

[@Spencer_W]

🥑

[@starfallstreams]

what is he supposed to be saying?

[@TheDanteEX]

@@starfallstreamsIt means “Devil’s Advocate”. Which is ironic considering Wyll is a Warlock.

[@Briselance]

"If you know what's good for you, you'll lower your blade." He kills demons and monsters for a job, ya know?

[@cwengel22]

Shadowheart coming in for the epic burn at the end

[@Addicted2Electronics]

This was my first introduction to Wyll, playing as Karlach. It's a cool dynamic.

[@GD2X]

That tadpole is such a cheat for developers to get 2 characters that hate each other, to love each other.

[@sheonmybingbong]

I was just thinking about this video before it got recommended again

[@ghostexdelta6]

Gale gad me cracking up. Totally caught me off guard 😂

[@Abelhawk]

Kind of odd that he doesn’t mention the dire consequences of breaking his pact and what a sacrifice that is. That’s a lot clearer when you’re Wyll recruiting Karlach.

[@trollgetroler7117]

Huh, so there's scene, introducing Wyll. I found him in pile of corpses after I picked up funny idol that gave me buffs in stats that seems to not be usable AT ALL

[@dravenaddams8108]

"i've not grown any tentacles yet, thank balduran" does he know?

[@Nick-rs5if]

I love Karlach as a character, but could never have her as tav. There is just something about hearing her call tav "Soldier" Not to mention that her attitude is pure, smouldering gold!

[@Covertopus]

Damn Shadow Heart! She didn't spare him just so you could kill him.

[@Tomcat_92]

And yet the best part of all of it is Shadowheart's SASS! As always.

[@ramiel___6042]

Personally, if I saw what I thought to be the most evil person ever, I would not let them walk around town for the day

[@Karomix3]

So Wyll just goes from wanting to kill Karlach to saying he sees the good in her in 3 seconds flat, talk about a turnaround.

[@DylanVA]

Well in this case, he sees into Karlach's head and also would've seen her helping the Tieflings at the gate

[@khamok6916]

Also he was expecting her to be a literal devil.

[@HungryLoki]

I think he already had doubts about her true nature, seeing as he'd already been after her for a while before they got abducted. The initial aggression was just his last act of denial before having all his doubts confirmed by the shared memories.

[@andrebetita]

My personal headcanon is that Wyll is on the autism spectrum. That's not a diss; just an observation. Just the way he processes information and swing from one extreme thought or belief to another. He's like the reverse-Zuko, where he starts out on the side of good but occasionally finds the necessity for some straight assholery.

[@Allday524]

@@andrebetita Nah, he's just split between doing the right thing and the literal devil on his shoulder who would drag his soul to hell given to chance.

[@AwkwardPain]

The WORST part of this is that we don't get to hear Karlach's lines :'(

[@aelfenpath]

I adore these two together. They’re my origins OTP. 🥰

[@TheKrensada]

The emperor sneezes.

[@MrAyuyuyu]

who needs karlach when you can have an infernal robe

[@erad13x67]

“ding ding ding”? I didn’t know they had TV game shows in faerun

[@Sailormoo247]

Thank Balduran ……rriiiiigghhhhttttt

[@michaelyoon9355]

This dude is Mia in my playthrough. Never saw him once

[@heylolp9]

With Mizora working under Zariel isn't it weird that Wyll hunts Zariels Prisoner Karlach?

[@aelechdeepestflame4347]

Devils are good at deception. Neither of them knew the other, and besides Mizora sent Wyll after Karlach because she escaped.

[@GeorgeJoubert-id2cv]

Mizora says outright she wants you to hunt Karlach because she escaped Zariel

[@GustavoTiavo]

Which makes Wyll a bloody hypocrite, since he is the one really doing Zariel's dirty work@@GeorgeJoubert-id2cv

[@GeorgeJoubert-id2cv]

@@GustavoTiavo that's why he feels bad if you kill Karlach, you have the option to reassure him or let him rot with his decision knowing he served evil

[@Elyseon]

​@@GustavoTiavoMizora lied to him, duh.

[@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi]

Shadowheart with the shade and nothing but

[@canineatnight6026]

So weird to hear karlach quiet. She is like the most talkative companion

[@quantumphysics7008]

That "Thank Balduraan" comment is gonna end up being reeeeaaal ironic....

[@FiftyStates5]

Why do the games graphics look better when you play an origin character

[@anonymous38741]

the uploader is probably just playing on higher quality settings than you did

[@Hevenlee]

I cannot play Origin besides Durge for the simple fact that the default tav face/silence just doesn't sit well with me on Origin characters.

[@Jey-75]

advocatus diaboli!

[@ianalvord3903]

Why doesn't it use the voice actor when you play as her? It's a bit of a disincentive.

[@OLBICHL]

oh, do be quiet shadowheart... or go look for shadows in the darkness of night

[@savageballa66]

I’m gonna make Wyll romance Karlach 😂

[@tylorpeacemaker3199]

*Advocatus diaboli*

[@slumpywumpy4166]

why does the tiefling child not suffer his sting

[@Krahe08]

Shadow heart is ruthless

[@sundaddy1077]

gale jumpscare

[@69mihail96]

What if you romance?

[@dannywolfpero]

Why Karlach's eyes are not black like other tieflings?

[@sillygo0oser]

Not every tiefling has black eyes

[@Dubbel12]

Too bad that in my Karlach playthrough my amazing luck with RNG cost Wylls and most tieflings life

[@daniellap.stewart6839]

Damn 😭

[@FelipeKana1]

I really don't understand why we don't have voice lines for the main character (or the ones standing in as main character)

[@alexanderrahl7034]

"I know what you are! A demon monster ive been hunting for years!" "Im just gonna let you run free now, among all these innocents. For the children's sake." A+ writing. Really, fantastic. Lmao

[@Elyseon]

Starting a fight then and there could have easily spiraled out of control.

[@ApexB2Strong]

MY LOVE : LAZE'L BEST FRIEND : KARLACH MAN LOVE : ASTARION!! REAL DEAL : WITHERS!! WHAT'S MISSING IN THE GAME IS "TRUE BRO" FOR ME :(

[@jel8141]

The dark urge Butler is the bro

[@ApexB2Strong]

@@jel8141 nah dude he is evil, bro is the bro bro, someone u lookup to

[@dan_the_dirty1]

Minsc for "True Bro"?

[@cjnf11]

He likes to talk so much...

[@linkhidalgogato]

2:34 he is so full of shit i dont think anyone ever calls him the blade of frontiers except himself

[@reidgrant7036]

I hate this man so much

[@Artimidorus]

The worm is such a cheap thing. Every time: "The person is a complete and utter jerk to you, but suddenly the worm makes you see through each others eyes and now you are friends!" after a bit of narration. It feels lazy.

[@sladeniz9766]

no, lol, it is not for everyone but for the people who are going through the same thing as you

[@federicopalacios7439]

The tadpole just connects you to other people, befriending them is entirely your decision.

[@SanyaBane]

1:36 "what the f*ck dude"

[@werewolfjedi38]

This is honestly the sadest part of origin play, you dont get their voices.

[@PeterCorless]

The saddest thing about Karlach as tav is that you can't hear her say "soldier!"

[@nootnewt9323]

I love when she calls me soldier 😢

[@terrachan8225]

She says soldier when you make her move.

[@telphex4471]

She does though, as durge and as tav

[@chrisrubin6445]

@@telphex4471 you cant be durge and ALSO an origin character!!!!....... wait, CAN YOU !!?!??!?!?!?!

[@RikkeDK1996]

@@telphex4471 literally not the point mate. if you pick Karlach as your "tav" that means you picked her as a origin character, which removes Tav entirely. Not durge though, they'll SPOILER just lay dead in the "master" bedroom in bhaals temple.

[@namethefifth7315]

This whole scene was basically just Karlach: "for the last time I'm not a devil" Wyll: "you eat babies"

[@emd4390]

Ive seen almost this exact conversation on social media many times

[@namethefifth7315]

@@emd4390 cool story Hansel

[@_spooky_sandwitch_]

"We eat BERRIES not BABIES" -RDR2

[@namethefifth7315]

@@_spooky_sandwitch_ john: no you eat babies everyone knows that"

[@Nypotet]

​@@_spooky_sandwitch_ Rdr1, undead nightmare :p

[@SuperEffector]

It’s interesting how he’s a lot more aggressive with origin Karlach. normally he starts to doubt right away with the shared memories.

[@EmXena315]

Gotta fill up the narrative just that much more when You're not playing Tav, with you taking over a Origin character. Those extra handful of lines from Wyll filled up what Karlach would be saying in a Tav playthrough.

[@sether255]

I think it makes some sense. With Tav there it's a different situation, there's someone else there that Wyll would ideally like to not fight with or potentially have on his side. So he'd be more diplomatic dealing with an intermediary.

[@nealenthenerd399]

Probably because there are a lot more children and civilians around that can maybe get hurt.

[@qisty3017]

Possibly because in a normal playthrough Karlach also (presumably) gets support from tav while as Karlach you're kinda alone on the convincing

[@Treepuncher1211]

"If we ever become friends I'll know what to call you" That's why I love Shadowheart

[@TFAric]

Need to play more of the game, when I played in beta I thought I would hate Shadowheart, she just screamed 12yo edgelord character, but no she has allot of charm.

[@Melina_Evarblume_Seelie]

​@@TFAric That's how they've made it so endearing though. They've crafted the perfect edgelord to subvert it.

[@MistyKathrine]

@@TFAric I liked her better in EA, she was a lot more savage.

[@TFAric]

@@MistyKathrine Have not played enough of either to know the difference. She was just a pleasant suprice from what I thought she would be.

[@FurryEmily]

@@TFAric suprice

[@rosenthorn_]

This is so much funnier to me then playing a Tav and having Wyll track down Karlach. Karlach instead just... bumping into him. Like dude you were hunting this "demon" and she just walked up to you and said Hi.

[@Falcarious]

Not to be pedantic, but Demons and Devils are quite different and either would kill you for making the confusion. Tieflings are the classic example of Devilspawn, whereas Gnolls are Demonspawn.

[@naufalmEZa]

I mean, he is actively tracking down Tiefling settlements just as we've seen. He's racially motivated.

[@SheikhMawini]

The strangest thing about Wyll is that he is more focused on hunting Karlach than finding a cure for the mindflayer tadpole, but clearly more focused on training literal children to fight than hunting Karlach

[@zazkiel2821]

It's not that strange, he's more interested in helping others and fulfilling his warlock pact than he is actually interested in survival. He's the classic self-sacrificial hero archetype.

[@niall_sanderson]

The grove is a powderkeg at the start of the game, and even a little bit of violence could set it off. Plus, Wyll attacking someone who just a few minutes prior had helped save the grove almost certainly wouldn’t go over well with any of the Tieflings or with many of the Druids

[@sylvan-the-necromancer]

I mean, Wyll very much values the lives of others over himself, which explains all three of those things. - He explicitly states that he needs to kill Karlach, as according to the (false) information he has received, if he doesn't many innocent people will die. - He doesn't make finding a cure for the infection his top priority, as time spent searching for a cure is time not spent hunting Karlach or protecting the people in the Emerald Grove. Besides, he can always take the rather morbid solution of ending himself so that he doesn't turn into a monster that risks the lives of others, as upsetting of an idea it is. The infection is a problem for later, Karlach and the goblins are a problem right now. - He trains children to fight so that in case they are attacked on the road by the goblins because the druids forced them out, or if the goblins succeed in breaching the grove's defences, they can at least buy enough time to run instead of them being killed or worse, captured and subject to horrifically cruel treatment by the goblins.

[@zervexon]

Beyond all the other listed reasons, he's pacted his *soul* to Mizora. The game points out a number of times that Ceremorphosis destroys the soul, and that the Hells are so interested in what's going on because of that. Mizora is likely invested in keeping Wyll pacted still, and he's probably correct in assuming she can cure him, likely reinforced when Raphael offers.

[@Misora7303]

I think he enjoys helping more than hunting, he would defend if needed but he doesn't seem the type to pick fights just because

[@TheAmericanDragn]

"If we ever become friends, I'll know what to call you." And here I am in act 3, where Shadowheart and Wyll are talking with each other all the time while we're exploring the city.

[@nootnewt9323]

Those answer choices are so Karlach lol. Idk it’d be weird playing the game and not hearing her loud boisterous voice

[@dr.calibrations7984]

You'd think that he'd see you PROTECTING the grove from the gobbos and play nice

[@PrinsB]

If you try to kill wyll in this situation karlach will stand up for him, but if you continue Karlach last words before the fight are "sorry wyll, I really tried."

[@ofanichan]

I killed Karlach my first playthrough because Wyll is my lil guy and I’d do anything for him. But all he did was complain afterwards smh my head.

[@TheOfficialButthead]

are you a retard or something?

[@juliancisneros386]

I’m glad I killed wyll then. After I met Karlach I was like “yeah, wylls got to go” 😂

[@ofanichan]

​@@juliancisneros386 Im playng with them both now and they seem to be good friends at least~

[@namethefifth7315]

​@@ofanichan ya they are literally best friends after this encounter and wyll will even ask karlach for advice on horn care after he is turned into a devil

[@evasivedre370]

@@juliancisneros386that’s racist

[@XLTripleTriple]

lol Wyll does a complete 180 in no time at all.

[@shipsnthenight]

Wyll: "so casually cruel" Me: IN THE NAME OF BEING HONEST, IM A CRUMPLED UP PIECE OF PAPER LYING HERE...

[@moonymoonlight]

not the shadowheart burn at the end 😭😭 brutal

[@shinzoux5912]

Omg, this game is amazing. I've played since early access and everytime I play or watch content I find another reason to love it more

[@christopher8659]

does he stil lget transfoirmed?

[@Tom-H1]

yes

[@erraticrasmus]

He does! I still haven't ran into the scene where Mizora appears on my Karlach playthrough yet but I'll be sure to upload it when I get there

[@Das_Johnny]

Step 1Play as Wyll, Step 2 Romance his Patron... Step 3: I have no idea if this is even possible xd

[@morgan3392]

I love that Wyll's just bullying the fuck out of that kid.

[@NPC_5439]

Wait so selecting an origin character means you're actually them?

[@Mithcoriel]

yup. Haven't tried it yet, but it sounds less appealing cause you then don't have their sassy interjections in dialogues.

[@mugflub]

It's insane how many different variations of the story you can experience. This game really is amazing.

[@claytonjacobs4098]

Not being able to hear her is reason enough not to play as her. Love her voice and dialogue.

[@TrimutiusToo]

I not only met and recruited Wyll as Karlach, I even romanced him

[@christianspeede5283]

"If we ever become friends, I'll know what to call you," LOL

[@bonzwah1]

its so tough, cuz I really think the origin characters are the way to go with this game. it makes you a part of the world. a custom character just feels so...separate and disconnected from the story. BUUUUT, since I (like many people) played a custom character first, the origin characters not being voice acted feels so WEIRD. and probably more importantly, I already know all their stories so I don't get to experience them properly for the first time :(

[@Sarum9nich]

Damn, Shadowheart roasting poor Wyll 🔥🔥🔥

[@naufalmEZa]

I would never have the heart to play with no Karlach butting in in every convo/soulja! Hyping you up. Playing as her removes half her fun.

[@greenchilistudioz4537]

If you recruit Karlach before Wyll, he will not be at Druid Grove and is waiting for you at the camp in nightime.