If Meg doesn’t get backlash or canceled for this and lying on Tory if he’s found innocent for the past 2 years then that’s wild. She almost ruined that man’s life.
@DocKaosBeats3 жыл бұрын
Facts and I'm glad Tory kept doing his thing and didn't let anything slow him down
@brucekent90853 жыл бұрын
I feel like she will and she won't. She won't receive backlash because just like the Jussie Smolett situation the other side for majority will not admit fault and keep it pushing. However....., she is now on the clock, because even though the side will not admit fault she has put a massive stain on the side of black women empowerment which she has been using as a foothold this whole time. Now the foothold will no longer be there and she will have to carry her career the regular way......on her talent. Now let's see how long she can keep this up before she is replaced by a more talented rapper who is a sista.
@NickHolasss3 жыл бұрын
She won’t! too many simps and group thinkers
@Jayseuth3 жыл бұрын
Shit his life too lol
@nkosinathisitholejobe5513 жыл бұрын
She get cancelled. It’s the times.
@darnelldarden94293 жыл бұрын
These conversations are the ones that separate this podcast from every other podcast out there. This is Joe in his element where he is flawless and can’t be touched
@Msboochie23 жыл бұрын
No, Joe knew better, he was listening to Mob Radio. She called it from the start, and even lost her Twitter account because she was breaking down Megan's lies. He is still trying to straddle the fence and blame black women, when OG’s and everyone shut down their brains because they wanted to. I was called all kinds of names by black men when I just asked why they believed such a ridiculous story, when they never even heard Torey’s side. All they care about is calling other black men corny, as if that has something to do with it.
@carterseries42873 жыл бұрын
@@Msboochie2 thank you mob radio been on this since day 1…
@twhite19113 жыл бұрын
This is a fact! This is what makes him one of best podder out there.
@darnelldarden94293 жыл бұрын
@@Msboochie2 I don’t even know who mob radio is but it doesn’t take away from what Joe just did here
@weeshirley59343 жыл бұрын
💯!!
@tropojay13 жыл бұрын
If “I wanna pod” is the first phrase of the clip it’s bound to be legendary
@Alpha-bp3xp3 жыл бұрын
Followed by “I’m here to pod”…you know shit about to get crazy
@shanewilson29533 жыл бұрын
that’s a fact 🤣
@rzwitdauncut3 жыл бұрын
@@Alpha-bp3xp its not really crazy tho. alot of times facts and evidence based. you just don’t see it on the news
@Hamzethegoat3 жыл бұрын
This is why I say Joe still the best podcaster the way he broke this down step by step is insane nobody in the podcast game better then him
@betzaidasantiago74403 жыл бұрын
Lovelyti breaks down news events, just as well and has been doing it for a long time. We need to support black women as well. A lot of people use her content and don't give her props
@TheKenyaMilan3 жыл бұрын
I knew Tory didnt do that when he released that project afterwards , the way he was expressing himself and what he was saying made wayyyy more sense then what She was saying or the lack of. It’s sick to think that Meg is really riding the wave of blaming him. It’s just so weird and sick. N also how her n her homegirl stopped fkn w each other. We can connect the dots. Definitely lost respect for Meg for tarnishing Torys career in this way. He didnt even speak bad of her on his project where he was telling his side, meanwhile she is trashing him. Weird asf.
@logicsir52573 жыл бұрын
That was super greasy . I can’t mess with ole girl after doing the most for two years !
@GivachiStudio3 жыл бұрын
Daystar was slept on, people needed to hear that, even people who listened to it didnt LISTEN to it, if u know what I mean
@MoarVolume3 жыл бұрын
Mans poured his heart out without ever talking down on that girl. Which it’s crazy to see Meg consistently trying to tear him down when under a gag order. I did find all this shit weird after he was trying to call out interscope and nothing came from it. That’s why this shit seems so fucking fishy. Tory deserves a apology because he’s fighting a lawsuit being completely independent now. Smh
@erinnirre3 жыл бұрын
daystar was a good album.
@shauntaym15853 жыл бұрын
Why bc Joe said so.. Comedy ✌🏾
@bangaamen5013 жыл бұрын
Joe agreeing with himself is crazy .......I do that shit too.
@jaygib25963 жыл бұрын
Only real niggas talk to and agree with themselves
@bangaamen5013 жыл бұрын
@@jaygib2596 💯
@JhaneTheLady3 жыл бұрын
@@jaygib2596 Facts
@versatillion153 жыл бұрын
Jay Gib facts & real niggas find themselves funny
@bangaamen5013 жыл бұрын
Only real niggas 💯
@BeautifulBianka3 жыл бұрын
Joe out here giving us a different perspective that we didn't know we needed and I am here for it.
@gbyrd073 жыл бұрын
Fr fr facts. Needed this.
@174mars3 жыл бұрын
Men been said this
@colioneb3 жыл бұрын
@@174marsExactly bro. Exactly.
@Obi4313 жыл бұрын
Different perspective?!? LOL. Black Men said this from the first day and they were demonized by Black American Women. It’s a rerun from the last 60 years of Black American culture… It’s not your little “secret.” All races/all cultures are aware of this dynamic in your culture
@BG339173 жыл бұрын
Everyone been saying this y’all want to listen now because the facts out but it sounded weird the whole time.
@mishelane6053 жыл бұрын
Joe had me holding on to his every word with this one! Lol! Perfect breakdown!
@kingsavage58323 жыл бұрын
BIG FACTS!!!! 💯💯💯 This is the Joe we've always loved.
@gravitatingawaytv3 жыл бұрын
Baby I swear 🤞🏿🤣
@shaquilhudson36393 жыл бұрын
No lie he did fr lol
@angiec70793 жыл бұрын
I literally said this when this case broke out that Megan was playing off of the social climate. There was something very suspect about this situation from the beginning, and I felt like it was a way for Meg's team to make her look like a victim
@blackseedtheory42073 жыл бұрын
You’re a good woman.
@360Rodney3 жыл бұрын
When her ass said she didn’t want to put another black man in jail I knew she was on some bullshit if a nigga shoots you in the foot there’s no protecting him after that
@JReece30003 жыл бұрын
Yea, she gettin her Juicy Smulié on and it’s disgusting tbh. Only question I have is why. Like why did she need to lie?
@360Rodney3 жыл бұрын
@@JReece3000 all that sympathy she got helped push her career and stardom to a whole new level it was all about money
@erinnirre3 жыл бұрын
@@360Rodney so true. she's been winning sympathy awards from these award shows ever since.
@raydub54853 жыл бұрын
Kelsey definitely talked about how she was messing with tory first and Megan snuck in on it. She said it on live.
@GBullockNC3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has constantly (and I feel rightfully) criticized many of Joe’s actions, I can admit that he snapped on this. I couldn’t have done investigation close to this deep
@mishelane6053 жыл бұрын
I agree! I don't think I have ever agreed with Joe more. He did his thing and I am glad that he spoke his truth.
@biffskywalker45893 жыл бұрын
Aint gotta preface it
@TrunxKraft30003 жыл бұрын
Man you’re special
@A_C22153 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@leija80053 жыл бұрын
Same
@lindalou4153 жыл бұрын
From day 1 Megan's story was not believable. As a nurse, I definitely did not believe that she was shot in both feet without any broken bones. After I saw the picture of her feet maybe if anything she was hit with bullet fragments after the bullet hit the ground. They are reports that one of the witnesses stated that she kicked out one of the back windows of the vehicle they were in, this idea is more believable because of the way her foot was injured. Also Megan has a hx of domestic abuse, she made a video an incident between her and an ex. She stated that she found out he was cheating and she started beating him up, then ended up in jail. She laughed about it like it was funny. While Megan decided to go on this black women should be protected campaign, she had her friends bullying Kelsey. She even had the nerve to bring up Breonna Taylor's name in her bs. I really hope Tory is found not guilty and sue her ass after all this is over.
@DENDEAURA3 жыл бұрын
Another Juicy smoolay
@NEW-vs9sr3 жыл бұрын
So as a medical professional, a pharmacist that did my rotation at a trauma center and that also took anatomy and physiology, I know that fragments can certainly hit the heel or fleshy areas of the side or back of the foot without hitting bones and tendons. Also I think that a surgeon working at a hospital in the second largest city in the nation would be able to distinguish glass from bullet fragments. There should be both a surgical report as well as aftercare records and a summary on discharge. All admissible. Kicking out a window barefooted would have caused deep lacerations and deep cuts. The car was stopped. What evidence do we have of broken widows? Megan has a history of abuse? Because she fought with her boyfriend, after she says she was attempting to leave and he tried to stop her and they started fighting? Well Tory has a history of a temper as well as having other that gun charges for him, since we are bringing up past run ins with the law. Megan was not convicted nor did she go to trial on the alleged abuse case. The charges were dismissed. Unlike Tory’s.
@lindalou4153 жыл бұрын
The hospital stated that it was shrapnel and did not label what was removed as bullet fragments.And you are full of bs, she did not say that. She said she fought him because she found out he had another woman pregnant. The girl admitted to physical violence because she was upset about something. Tory Lanez may be a hot head but there is no of being physical abuse to any woman.
@NaturallyShamere3 жыл бұрын
@@lindalou415 This is incorrect. She said she was mad about finding out about the pregnant girl and was trying to leave the the festival. He began to push & pull on her which led to them fighting. Go back & watch the video. Tory has history of abuse. He has an ex that came out reporting the stalking and abuse. Also threatening ppl with guns. So please stop being a "pick-me" and get the facts.
@Rome__king3 жыл бұрын
@@NaturallyShamere a pick me....because she has a opinion that doesnt match the sisterhood .....woooh yall worse than gang sets lmao. The funny part is you proving why Tory is even more innocent.... with prior charges like what you stated there i no bond no matter how good his lawyers are. He had a firearm and not a citizen meaning he has means to dip and never appear again.... yet the state with the countries best DA's said he needed a bond and was never charged with any assault with said pistols..... a cheap bond that DUI drivers wish they could get afters accidents.... this screams Meg has not been good with giving legitimate info to the state to make the case.... meaning the state along with Tory law team believes its some lies involved. -Morehouse University Law Degree Graduate 2017. For simple minded citizens who want to say women do no wrong its always the man fault..... will not see the medical or legal holes in her entire story.... If anything you should be more upset with her for using the woman card on a lie..... A blackk man with prior domestic charges and gun charges got a bond for her assault claim at the lowest possible bond amount you could get for the charge..... which wouldve been $3500 for regular people without 35k in the bank..... they let him move around despite him having the ability to run to canada evading any further prosecution.....MEANING they had talks with him ...them being the DA so he is aware he is good to go they most likely are waiting to call meg to the stand on a trial case to get charges of incrimination on her statement given. So next time you call another woman a pick me think hard and long.... you maybe the pick me for the women . If you like women its fine but dont shame other women for having common sense please.
@RobbieJ543 жыл бұрын
Accountability is like Kryptonite to these women…
@dougmontana1573 жыл бұрын
Fax 🎯
@662chillin3 жыл бұрын
Like it's Dodgeball always ducking it
@TJR-ju8dj3 жыл бұрын
Yup yup
@enoughalready712 жыл бұрын
@Kay A they probably do..but most women clearly don't know the meaning and I'm speaking as a woman!
@Money63663 жыл бұрын
They did all of that with out mentioning "dance bitch"... I'm impressed, every other podcast damn near led with that. Joe's breakdown was a much needed breath of fresh air.
@Shoney673 жыл бұрын
You and I both know “Dance Bitch” sounded dumb as hell. He never said that crap.
@empressme86812 жыл бұрын
I need to NVR hear any more references to dance b*tch dance... PPLS well being and my freedom DEPEND on it frfr!
@coppertone793 жыл бұрын
JOE! This episode was needed. You shared some good points. I been wanting SOMEONE, ANYONE to speak facts on this weird ass case. Im glad you said this shit cuz as a woman I felt like I couldn't. Women expect all women to take Megs side. If you don't, women trash you.
@CadiKane3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MissMeMsLee2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% there were so many inconsistencies in the story. From Megan getting BACK in the car with the man that allegedly shot her to her walking/limping on a foot that she was shot in….. Judge Judy said, “If it doesn’t make sense it’s a lie.” 🤷🏾♀️
@sashahottie8932 жыл бұрын
This !!
@meshame67852 жыл бұрын
All facts.
@jazzo5972 жыл бұрын
Chillleeee!! Say it louder!!!
@JFairclothTV3 жыл бұрын
The thing that bothered me about this situation is how much she milked/capitalized off this incident pushing that “protect Black women” narrative when it was convenient for her, getting Grammys and those other sympathy awards, Nike/Doritos/Popeyes endorsements, woman of the year at these women empowerment luncheon events…..if and when it comes out that none of this happened like she said it did, she needs to lose endorsements, dropped from Roc Nation, all types of consequences, etc. but I’m pretty sure it won’t happen unfortunately
@zclan41303 жыл бұрын
Huge slap in the face to the entire BLM movement, yet she won’t be held accountable for it
@saucemoney823 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@GuessWhatHappened13 жыл бұрын
That why her team is trying to secure all these deals. Because it was faulty from jump.
@purpdajerk893 жыл бұрын
Whatever time Tory was gonna face she needs half of that. Start setting examples for these women putting bs cases on men because they're in their emotions and ruin ppl lives. She played the angle and now she has to keep that up after all the W's she's been getting from this situation. Tory better be praised and music industry about to be at a loss of words 😬
@brando34243 жыл бұрын
@@purpdajerk89 nah, she needs the full time. She needs to be made an example of for what happens when you use your privilege to sling false accusations
@champagnesupernova25363 жыл бұрын
What a great breakdown of this case by Joe. Very thorough. I never heard any other publications talking about this.
@662chillin3 жыл бұрын
Because they have to keep the lie going to demonize a black man
@platnumj2 жыл бұрын
Mob Radio on KZbin picked holes in her story off rip. From the start she said something ain’t right.
@gilfordmccormack81403 жыл бұрын
I love when Joe breaks down these industry situations. It's like inside the NBA lol😂😂😂.
@stringer22953 жыл бұрын
Joe is Charles? Lol
@LuckyStrike94_3 жыл бұрын
@@stringer2295 precisely
@Dray_3stacks3 жыл бұрын
Facts 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stringer22953 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyStrike94_ 🤣🤣🤣
@Dray_3stacks3 жыл бұрын
@@stringer2295 ice Kenny, ish shaq, parks is Ernie 🤣
@esseen1003 жыл бұрын
Megan had people in her ear schooling her on how Rihanna went to the next level with the Chris Brown controversy, and erroneously advised her to "go with it". The truth will come out.
@jdbeast3 жыл бұрын
Good take!
@donellkriel49962 жыл бұрын
You can't compare this to that. Rihanna actually came out and said that she laid hands on Chris too. She didn't claim to be innocent. Only reason why nothing happened to her is because of the degree to which Chris beat her. She was literally back together with Chris and supporting him in the courtroom for the charge of beating her. It's not the same.
@shugarae1 Жыл бұрын
AND DID!!!😂
@shadowsden3 жыл бұрын
This was absolute fire, the Joe breakdown was brilliantly entertaining and insightful. Joe, this was good bro. Great stuff to all you guys
@musclewarlord3 жыл бұрын
during these hard times just wanted to let anyone who needs to hear this that you’re loved by GOD & he loves you keep praying & stay positive
@Azraeluchiha9993 жыл бұрын
Amen, brother.
@deallotyler84983 жыл бұрын
Thanks bruh I needed to see this and God bless you
@pattersonprevost71843 жыл бұрын
Amen
@clevelandg092 жыл бұрын
Amen ty
@ashtongordon58333 жыл бұрын
I believed Tory from the beginning but for Meg to not clear the shit up and take all the accolades for the past 2 years is NASTY. She intentionally deceived the fans.
@damedoes3 жыл бұрын
My stance from the beginning was that girl ain't get shot. A gun might have went off, some glass broke, and her foot got injured. Meg has a history of misrepresenting the truth and then using some social media talking point to deflect from accountability. I don't know how people are so quick to believe her
@TROY150NLMB3 жыл бұрын
🎯
@stefanytorres89123 жыл бұрын
True shit
@razzygunz37083 жыл бұрын
Wait when else has she done shit like this in the past?? I’m just curious and I agree with you 100 percent
@damedoes2 жыл бұрын
@@razzygunz3708 promoting hotgirl summer when she was in a relationship, they got on her ass, and she pivoted to a woman's right to choose talking point and a hot girl summer is whatever a woman makes it is one example. When she was trying to get out of her record deal and they presented the paperwork to show she was lying, they got on her ass again, and she started something shit about black women are not protected. Career liar and manipulator. 😂
@TruStatementNetwork2 жыл бұрын
@@razzygunz3708 Also to add she had been charged for beating up or on her ex bf and she went to jail. She laughed it off on IG live when explained it but the weird thing about it she used the same narrative of protecting black men in that story when she stated she didnt tell the police he put his hand on her first
@twinborn38502 жыл бұрын
“You can’t shame me for having a functioning brain” that was epic!!!!
@Yuspliff3 жыл бұрын
"Tory's career will never be the same, thats a fact" Shit is sad to hear because hes super talented.
@Asimoori3 жыл бұрын
He has a chance to come out stronger than ever though. His fans haven’t given up on him 🙏🏾
@ShawnNDaHood3 жыл бұрын
I never gave up on him and he’s more talented than every artist in my opinion
@missdee49272 жыл бұрын
am I the only one who sees it as Meg ends up getting major backlash though and Tory will gain sympathy?
@ShawnNDaHood2 жыл бұрын
@@missdee4927 I mean she’s lieng so that should be the outcome..if u notice none of the celebrities are fooling with her.they know something
@dreamkitty5 ай бұрын
well y’all should’ve gave him success before this
@outsouthBLACKIE3 жыл бұрын
Joe Budden, I pray that you see this comment. Please stay here, in this bag. You know more about the music industry than any civilian can imagine. Please continue connecting the dots. You are to the industry what AK is to the streets. We want this.
@pinpointaccuracy13 жыл бұрын
WHEN JOE IS IN HIS BAG, HE IS IN HIS BAG!!!! 🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯
@X12Veditz3 жыл бұрын
What a great conversation. Enjoyed every bit of it
@eking57153 жыл бұрын
Agree. I even listened to it twice .
@movieplug51173 жыл бұрын
Joes perspective the last 15 mins made me go crazy 😈… he dropped dumb knowledge
@jbkg71133 жыл бұрын
How do you enjoy a conversation?
@puddclark43862 жыл бұрын
Same
@puddclark43862 жыл бұрын
@@jbkg7113 the perspective was interesting
@662chillin3 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched JB since the split but I decided to watch this because of his industry knowledge and damn it he NAILED it with the breakdown to the point that the only people who still think Tory did it are Meg stans. Trying to railroad a black man and gaslighting the situation for two years is unforgivable
@21nitsua3 жыл бұрын
You missed a lot good pods.
@terrygrey58173 жыл бұрын
Same thing for me. This brought me back and it was VERY insightful. I had my doubts but he did bring more stuff to light
@Ricaontherise3 жыл бұрын
If she lied on this man and it comes out that it was a lie. I think she will receive more backlash ,then people think. Using the protect black woman narrative to push your career, while defaming a black man is a no for me. Playing with people's lives out of anger or revenge is just the lowest thing a person could do. That lying mess is trash behavior. Also, she is yelling protect black woman while bullying her ex- bestfriend.
@bobnob13763 жыл бұрын
She will be fine. No one holds bw accountable
@Ricaontherise3 жыл бұрын
@@bobnob1376 I disagree with you 100%, but that is your opinion. I highly doubt she will be fine. She barely has fans now.
@bobnob13763 жыл бұрын
@@Ricaontherise there is nothing to disagree with really. There are laws put in place for bw not to take accountability. Majority of the time
@Ricaontherise3 жыл бұрын
@@bobnob1376 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 🤔
@Ricaontherise3 жыл бұрын
@KKI get what your saying, but for me that is crazy. I makes sense when you explain it the way you did.
@Kreid53 жыл бұрын
Parks was talking mad spicy about Tory, he better cop that plea NOW!!
@rayray10523 жыл бұрын
Well Parks was saying if he was guilty & would take it back if he was innocent...maybe I'm wrong but that's what I remember
@Oldman063 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! He need to cop the plea asap!
@Tocozym3 жыл бұрын
Park’s Parks Parks (Mal voice)
@legendhasit64593 жыл бұрын
True i was searching the comments to see if anyone else peeped that also
@Kreid53 жыл бұрын
@@rayray1052 naw Parks was the worst...I remember yelling at my phone at the shit he was saying...but he definitely kept quiet 🤐
@aarongraham42643 жыл бұрын
What Joe said at 36:35 was the strongest piece of evidence he presented and made me think “so true. We all been there and know the outcome”. It put things in perspective
@all4thesame3 жыл бұрын
Theres a lot of us that heard that story and said “ BULLSHIT “ and got stones thrown at us for not being sheep like , one thing I love about life is you can’t hide the truth forever , and the idiots who attack those who think differently usually always get exposed after so long for being exactly what they are , brainwashed
@jaefox27923 жыл бұрын
💯
@Msboochie23 жыл бұрын
Facts! Milagros Gramz list her Twitter account because she was picking apart all of Megan's different stories. We talked about all of this. I know Joe is no damn dummy, so he saw it too. He is probably giving up future checks, with finally admitting it. It was a decent break down. Except Meagan and her friends were taking shots and bullying Kelsey. Kelsey’s record was a response to Meg’s friends bullying Kelsey. The court threatened to bring them up on charges of interfering in an investigation.
@cbtube16773 жыл бұрын
👊🏽💯
@REALTRUEJOURNEY3 жыл бұрын
are you done lol
@Radiance2303 жыл бұрын
Akademiks is about the only media personality that offered a different perspective. And Meg got mad and went live and doubled down on her narrative.
@theiggod69213 жыл бұрын
This was masterful by Joe Budden! He was on point the entire time. This is why people fell in love with Joe. Great job Mouse! 💯
@TheoHyatt3 жыл бұрын
Facts 👌
@CustomFitted Жыл бұрын
"masterful" for asking random questions that can be easily explained. Really sad to see how dumb some of u are
@ladyblaze1773 жыл бұрын
This is why I love you Joe!!! You pick sense out of nonsense!! Since the beginning she’s been shady! She played on the protect black women train and used it to her advantage! Many followed because they love her and are fans! As a black woman myself I was perturbed by how I got into heated arguments because I didn’t believe her weak story! All because she played on that topic! Too many questions! It’s a shame that after all of this Tory is gonna have that on his name! Jealousy is a ugly disease! Understand karma comes and it doesn’t matter your status! That was an excellent breakdown 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 great poddin’
@BlessedDisciplezTV3 жыл бұрын
I love your response, Camile nice profile pic by the way 🙂
@hustlaave3 жыл бұрын
For real though, I stopped listening to the pod, but this just brought me back. Joe was COOKING!!
@mishelane6053 жыл бұрын
I think that is why he did, to get his ratings back up. I am glad he did this cause I am tired of all the PC, safe podding. He was on it on this one!
@KernTheWermTv3 жыл бұрын
Same
@johnnybeatmaker3303 жыл бұрын
Man
@Ajibolaa3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@chrissean96143 жыл бұрын
You’ve missed a lotta meals but welcome back
@y.o.s60003 жыл бұрын
I remember meg really hitched herself to Breonna Taylor to gain public sympathy last year. She really used that woman’s death to put herself in an untouchable light.
@abztraktt64033 жыл бұрын
SUPER FACTS
@redloveeee2 жыл бұрын
What?! How in the world was she able to try and compare her situation to hers?! Smh
@y.o.s60002 жыл бұрын
@@redloveeee both incidents were in the media around the same time. Breonna came first though.
@j.b.5953 жыл бұрын
I’m calling it meg shot herself fighting Kelsey for the gun. Joe broke it down without coming straight out and saying it. The original crew owes Tory a major Apology.
@ZYaKnoe2493 жыл бұрын
This is what I think. Or Kelsey accidentally fired it
@gmorgcyborg3 жыл бұрын
I believe this more given the fact that tory was her " dude" at the time and she know where the gun is
@rayray10523 жыл бұрын
And they won't give it to Tory neither just like the womenz won't
@Vat6ré3 жыл бұрын
Either that or Meg was drunk and her friend tried to take the gun,which explains why her friend was so Adamant about telling her story
@Tewche3 жыл бұрын
And the Award goes tooo🎯 this was an accident with tory gun but tory didn't pull the trigger
@emptye003 жыл бұрын
Joe listening to himself back, to prove how he's always right about everything is PRICELESS! "I'm a sicko" He said! 🤣
@TheKt3133 жыл бұрын
It's the most joe budden thing he's done yet
@dontworry48313 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Absolutely nobody: Joe: i hate to say i told you so...BUT 🤷🏾♂️
@braveheartedlion3 жыл бұрын
Then he walked everything back the very next episode.
@PaceBrown3 жыл бұрын
Go back in time n watch him n Mal n Rory siding with Meg! He purposely played another clip
@houseofmatrix61743 жыл бұрын
Joe literally loves the sound of his own voice 😹😹😹😹
@OnlyOneAvana3 жыл бұрын
As a black woman….I NEVER believed he shot that girl! From the jump things were off and she acted guilty while he acted innocent!
@alyxmac223 жыл бұрын
“Y’all not gonna shame me for having a functioning brain” 💯 awwww sh*t Joey…. This is full of gems, I should have just watched the whole thing before commenting cus now I feel like I’m live-tweeting thru this sh*t lol
@shauntaym15853 жыл бұрын
Shooting a girl you like is weird. He not wrong for saying that. Yikes.
@lilbrah47943 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Joe knows exactly what really happened and he’s gingerly leading us to the water without incriminating himself as a snitch … respect!
@JW-db8bz3 жыл бұрын
Big facts. He knows what happened 100%
@E.P.71313 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how there is a video. I dont even care that it hasn't been made public, just wondering if there is a video why there is even a trial or charges?
@deesmoove58523 жыл бұрын
@@E.P.7131 very good question my guy
@SchoolboyM3 жыл бұрын
@@E.P.7131 that’s not how the court systems work in america. you could call the police and confess to something and they’d still hold a trial that will end up taking a year or so
@E.P.71313 жыл бұрын
@@SchoolboyM Thats not my point. Seeing as the charge is a simple possession charge and not an assault or aggravated assault, then there must have been some evidence at the scene that gave reason for a lesser charge. Picture only 4 people at the scene, one is wounded, and NOBODY is charged with a violent crime, assault, assault with a weapon, nothing. Only 1 of the 4 is charged and its just a possession charge. Shit don't add up. And who goes to trial for possession? Usually possession is not a lengthy process.
@tinabaygboe68793 жыл бұрын
I really can’t wait until this case is over. The way I’ve been verbally assaulted lol by friends and family over not going along with the masses and sheep believing Megan’s stories lol 😂. IDC tho bc I held my own and will continue to stand on truth and justice lol. 💜💜💜
@cameronvaughan75763 жыл бұрын
Hey don’t worry I’ve been with Tory since the beginning, you are not alone
@TsunamiJMG3 жыл бұрын
Aight wonder women 💪🏽
@cachetburton92293 жыл бұрын
🙌🏾🙌🏾
@Biggboy293 жыл бұрын
Thank you queen!
@TheORIGINAL.J.T.3 жыл бұрын
Right! I swear people need to get off Twitter. The story didn’t make sense from the jump but if you said that “you hate bw” smh
@mayanking3393 жыл бұрын
3 out of the 4 people in the car said Tory didn't shoot Meg
@jaeraee34372 жыл бұрын
Who did
@Solkage8852 жыл бұрын
@@jaeraee3437 the story going around is her best friend shot the gun and fragments from hit her
@jaeraee34372 жыл бұрын
@@Solkage885 Why blame him?
@Solkage8852 жыл бұрын
@@jaeraee3437 the best friend had gunshot residue on her while Tory didn’t and if Tory fired it he definitely would have residue on him
@Rozayridez3 жыл бұрын
She benefitted also from really only addressing this on Twitter, where cancel culture runs wild. Men were called misogynistic if they took tory side, and women were called pick mes if they said shit sounded funny. Now this shit looking real smollettish
@dg234573 жыл бұрын
If she "didn’t know" then you don’t blame Tory or anyone until you come back to your senses and figure more out🙄 everybody better have the SAME fucking energy against her when he's found innocent and get her tf outta here. No sympathy, no mercy, no nothing.
@SolidSnake2403 жыл бұрын
They won't. Women that make false allegations rarely if ever get punished for it.
@MakaveliG17C3 жыл бұрын
@@SolidSnake240 This was 100x worse than Jussie Smollett
@JaeDee663 жыл бұрын
Agreed but we know better black woman today do no wrong
@BG339173 жыл бұрын
Facts but they won’t we live in a women’s world nowadays and that’s just what it is
@mileshamorrison90643 жыл бұрын
@@JaeDee66 Hold up, I wouldn't say all that. When it comes out that she was lying, I would like for her to be held accountable just like they did Jussie Smollet. Companies are gonna start dropping her and she may lose some of her awards behind this, they're gonna let her take the fall which might be worst than getting punished by law unless she gets both.
@TheOfficialHaKeem3 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget that while all of this is happening Tory recently gained possession of his masters from his ex label, meaning he has control over the financial gains of his music. He’s independent now and owns his masters and he’s a popping artist. Interscope Records is sick that they can’t make any money off of him anymore. So they put a target on his head. We’ve seen this happen with Michael Jackson and Prince. Once they owned their masters they both got killed the same way, by prescriptions given by their doctors, shady. Tory’s getting the same treatment rather instead they’re trying to ruin his career and get him locked up. It’s a dirty game in the industry. And being that Meg is an industry puppet they using her whispering in her ear telling her to destroy Tory. Y’all see what’s going on?
@friendswitdadealer3 жыл бұрын
Not saying Tory is guilty. But no label cares about Tory's masters as much as Prince and Mike. Not even comparable.
@MakaveliG17C3 жыл бұрын
@@friendswitdadealer Torys masters alone generate 15 million a year. Thats just streaming. He was also educating others to not sign
@Classikh3 жыл бұрын
@@MakaveliG17C Source: “Trust me bro.”
@Vat6ré3 жыл бұрын
@@Classikh no look it up,0.01 dollars per stream,go check his streams
@Kreid53 жыл бұрын
Eloquently put👌🏾
@smartybabytv55473 жыл бұрын
The playback of joe from 2 years ago sounds like an inner monologue with the echo it’s so funny 😂 lol 😆
@SweaterSwagg3 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@edjohn51143 жыл бұрын
For everyone that sees this video, if Megan gets caught in a lie, I need all of y’all to flame her ass on social media just like all her fans were and still are berating Tory
@SessionsofHistory2 жыл бұрын
Torch in hand and ready to scorch the frontal off this man
@SessionsofHistory2 жыл бұрын
🤚🏾🙄by man I mean Meg
@whitekj033 жыл бұрын
The boys are back. Joe is at his best when he's spitting facts. First episode or clip I've watched since Rory and Mal were on the show. Might stick around after this. Great content.
@jondon7163 жыл бұрын
Facts
@MrBootlegWinner3 жыл бұрын
Same first ep I've watched since the rory n mal thing
@SocomElite3 жыл бұрын
I guess Im built different than y'all, I started watching the pod because of Joe, so why the fuck would I stop watching cuz Rory and Mal gone 😆
@siri38483 жыл бұрын
@@SocomElite what u want? a fukn medal?
@KizzleLife892 жыл бұрын
@@SocomElite facts its called the Joe podcast not mal or r
@Prodbywalkz3 жыл бұрын
Yooooo Joe was PODDINNNNNN
@pegobrown92043 жыл бұрын
An the pod was mixed properly too 😉
@tonysoprano97543 жыл бұрын
@@pegobrown9204 why wasn't this response 2 yrs old tho 😩😩
@DENDEAURA3 жыл бұрын
The whole tone then was that it was bs
@Prodbywalkz3 жыл бұрын
@@DENDEAURA I had a brain aneurysm trying to understand this
@Awsme_J3 жыл бұрын
This is when Joseph can’t be fucked with, his deductive reasoning skills are insane.
@clarkkent523 жыл бұрын
Joe is a gas lighting snake..he sh!tted on Tory even against the evidence he wouldn't go against Meg because he couldn't go against Jay Z team...Joe is a smooth gasligh
@Awsme_J3 жыл бұрын
@@clarkkent52 and you loved every minute
@mrv91873 жыл бұрын
@@Awsme_J 🤣🤣🤣
@blizzred21433 жыл бұрын
The Virgo in him showing a lot 😂
@clarkkent523 жыл бұрын
@@Awsme_J nah when you gaslight you can see when others are bullshittin
@GunzNbutter3 жыл бұрын
I remember Mal was going hard at Tory, really vocal against him. Love to see his stance now
@damonm.3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about Parks he was extra with the cancellation
@versatillion153 жыл бұрын
That was the lamest rant ever
@GunzNbutter3 жыл бұрын
@@Trust-Yourself-1st I get that but unless you know 100%, people are still innocent until PROVEN guilty. Not just based off he said she said.
@versatillion153 жыл бұрын
Carlos Bailey that was a lot of passion to be conditional
@GunzNbutter3 жыл бұрын
@@damonm. Yeup forgot about that !
@angiec70793 жыл бұрын
This was a really good show because y'all really revealed how the mainstream industry leverages Black people against their own in the name of some social calls that is so convoluted they can't even stick with it long-term until the next political cycle.
@luvchrissyconvos36383 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking truth Joe Budden! . And your right , why do people get shamed for questioning logic ?
@VERYRAREPROPHET3 жыл бұрын
I been knew she was lying, sorry not sorry. Ain't no way you get shot in both feet allegedly and be able to walk and twerk in a week. That was all I needed.
@ImCaliKidOfficial3 жыл бұрын
I knew it was cap because I know someone who got shot in the foot and they were on crutches and had a foot cast on for weeks.
@DocKaosBeats3 жыл бұрын
@@ImCaliKidOfficial Facts and she was twerking within the next few days or so at least the next week
@ImCaliKidOfficial3 жыл бұрын
@@DocKaosBeats Yep
@mileshamorrison90643 жыл бұрын
Plus her story did not match the video from the scene and it didn't make sense. How are you gonna lie to medical professionals about a bullet injury and say you were cut by glass? Like they don't know the difference. They would have to treat you differently cause bullets burn your skin.
@DocKaosBeats3 жыл бұрын
@@mileshamorrison9064 Facts plus it would take longer to heal from a bullet wound
@mr_invictus3 жыл бұрын
"Youre not supposed to think outside of what youre told." - Ice Thats exactly where this society is, and its dumb AF
@TheoHyatt3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@_smittyallen133 жыл бұрын
Joe is absolutely right. Folks reacted so quick to try and cancel Tory. When nobody knew what the fuck actually happened. Smh.
@clarkkent523 жыл бұрын
Joe is a gas lighting snake..he sh!tted on Tory even against the evidence he wouldn't go against Meg because he couldn't go against Jay Z team...Joe is a smooth gasligh
@TheJozuki3 жыл бұрын
@@clarkkent52 exactly any real man didn’t believe this when it came out but Joe n the whole crew pushed that lie n they needa apologize fr
@CupidsBow11143 жыл бұрын
@@TheJozuki I agree.. Mainly Mal bc he dogged him out so badly, calling him a sucker...king sucka..lol Tory said f-it and put it into intro of his Daystar album...lemonade he made from it I guess
@realeyez.3 жыл бұрын
This was obvious from da jump doe.
@farrellcityking13 жыл бұрын
When it comes to breaking situations down, Joe is a 1 of 1.
@HooodClassicsTV3 жыл бұрын
Chris brown/Rihanna situation. Even though Chris actually did hit Rih, there was more to the story. But after the situation Rihanna rose to a superstar level while CB was getting blackballed from everywhere. Even removing all his guess episodes on Disney’s channels and so what. He stills gets paid for gigs and sells out shows cause his talent spoke for him, same will happen with Tory.
@BLUEGUTTA3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind she lied on this man on his birthday and the anniversary of his mom’s death on ig live!!!! Damn ! That’s slimy.
@R.T.123 жыл бұрын
Daaaamn I forgot about that… Scummy
@laquangarvey98733 жыл бұрын
What makes it lowkey worse is that Megan also lost her mom so she understands that pain of losing a parent and still did it
@BLUEGUTTA3 жыл бұрын
@@laquangarvey9873 smdh super facts!!!
@abztraktt64033 жыл бұрын
And they had the balls to try and make it about Breonna Taylor foh
@muhammadbilaal73613 жыл бұрын
On the anniversary of his mum's death is just fucking slimy !!
@JFairclothTV3 жыл бұрын
If the prosecution really had a case against Tory with major evidence, then this shit would’ve been wrapped up and done with by now; that’s another thing that’s very telling….and along with the fact he’s also kept the same energy with maintaining his innocence. If he really did it, he would’ve owned up to this shit by now and/or his lawyer would’ve advised him to own it as well. I really believe Tory didn’t shoot her and she’s left out a lot of details to save her own ass
@jona1han2k43 жыл бұрын
The fact he turned down a plea for for potential 6+ years and possible deportation and bet on himself. He knows something we don’t
@speakonitpodcast52113 жыл бұрын
@@jona1han2k4 facts
@CustomFitted Жыл бұрын
@@jona1han2k4 Lmaao
@jona1han2k4 Жыл бұрын
@@CustomFitted lol oh my comment still stands. The person he banked on helping him out plead the fifth 😂
@NoNo4ShoSho3 жыл бұрын
....and this is why we come to the JBP podcast. The deep dives.
@BruBoyz3 жыл бұрын
The way Joe bring it full circle is legendary 🐐
@snipeley82263 жыл бұрын
I just became an official Joe Buden fan. He broke that down so smooth! Got me feeling sorry for Meg. Cause if he’s right, she is looking really bad about now.
@ChrisDodges1233 жыл бұрын
32:44 Joe calling Meg Jussie is crazy! 😄
@Biggboy293 жыл бұрын
Fucking classic.
@mordecaimcnasty3 жыл бұрын
FRFR, if this was the other way around and Meg was being charged with shooting him and it comes out she was innocent after he said she did it for 2 years. Not to mention going out his was to derail her career. MAAAAANNNN they’d throw that man under the bus, back over him then bury him right there in that same spot. Then sprinkle some good ol “canceled” dust on his shallow grave 😩😩
@chy1024953 жыл бұрын
Facts
@joegurt29573 жыл бұрын
Big facts
@Vat6ré3 жыл бұрын
I really hope you ain’t say shallow grave coz he short but you right,krazy how they have no empathy or logic for black men
@Kreid53 жыл бұрын
LMAO "sprinkled some ol' canceled" 🤣🤣
@joegurt29573 жыл бұрын
@@Vat6ré they never do bro
@ron.insight3053 жыл бұрын
This segment needs to go viral
@tayb.40893 жыл бұрын
The best way to end the year off Joe. Perfect breakdown.
@lanceyrenzo9323 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy this is out cause I used to tell all the ppl around me that I had a theory it wasn’t so black and white as tory shot her , she rode the narrative of black women not being protected during a very convenient period in history where it was the best time to do that , instead of live down a story about a love triangle, alcohol, a gun, and someone accidentally winding up shot (all while being attached to roc nation and mainstream spotlight with the savage song on tik tok, white folks were gravitating to her at this point, that is a bad look) The worst part is if it comes out she lied, the same ppl who went after Tory will make NEW excuses, or reasons to not hold themselves accountable, “she was still harmed” will be the moving of goal posts. The ones who wanted to wait for more facts getting told they “hate black women” SMH.
@ShotzExpected3 жыл бұрын
Never forget she went live purposely on HIS BIRTHDAY AND SAID HE SHOT HER
@RASHON493 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious to me he hurt her feelings and she’s butthurt.
@whataload03 жыл бұрын
New wig and make up done. And she said he shot me in both feet and I had surgery. If it comes out the hospital didn’t do surgery and it wasn’t both feet, Tory and his lawyer need to play that video.
@Solkage8852 жыл бұрын
@@RASHON49she really just pushing the bitter black woman stereotype to the masses
@ryanjackson88983 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Meg and Kelsey had an argument, Kelsey pulls out tory’s gun knowing where it’s at and while she is in possession Tory tries to stop her and the gun goes off
@ImCaliKidOfficial3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@VikktorVampiir3 жыл бұрын
💯
@iThoed3 жыл бұрын
When Wack said that I was like that sounds like the most logical scenario
@ih2843 жыл бұрын
If it happened this way Tory might have saved Megs life.
@southcoastnerd3 жыл бұрын
The fact that there was no gun residue on Tory but there was on Kelsey, that shit speaks volumes
@XxKinGzxX1003 жыл бұрын
Joe slowly getting back to top form podcast, glad to be back watching his shit
@dontworry48313 жыл бұрын
That Rory and Mal shit was a like an interception and turnover laden season, followed by an injury and a change of the offensive coordinator. Joe had to rehab and get healthy, get comfortable with the new system and then really find his rhythm within the current landscape. He's looking like Aaron Rodgers or Steph Curry right now
@XxKinGzxX1003 жыл бұрын
@@dontworry4831 couldn’t have described it any better
@musicislife79813 жыл бұрын
Know whats sad, no one is going to apologise to Tory and for slandering his name, he is still going to be seen as the "bad guy" and he isn't loool
@jamellramsay37063 жыл бұрын
Tory has a pretty nice distribution deal , crypto investments, show bookings, and he got his artists. He's not broke, the lawyers are expensive, but he's doing just fine. No one wants to pay such high lawyer fees, but if it's life or death..HELL YEAH THEY GONNA SPEND THE BAG
@mikem43142 жыл бұрын
itll depend on whether he wants to spend even more time in court, but i would think he'd also be able to sue the brakes off meg when this is all said n done
@gmora93692 жыл бұрын
Crypto investments hahaha shut up
@BigZoe993 жыл бұрын
If he is found not guilty, and we get proof that she knowingly and willingly lied about this man to destroy him then I think her career will take a huge hit. I know ppl dont think so cz everyone on her bandwagon, but if we get real proof that she went along and made up this story which almost destroyed his life then I think it will turn alot of ppl against her including in the industry.
@gettingupiseverything91653 жыл бұрын
She knew very well that she did not shoot her she has known from the beginning use this as the opportunity the Catapult her career even further and that is what it did
@UnBR0k3enAngel3 жыл бұрын
Lol man we got proof Drake (a man who built his image off being the light-skin good guy) hid a baby from the world and tried to get the baby momma to abort it...and his numbers are doing better than ever. Accountability in the industry has been dead for ages.
@ImCaliKidOfficial3 жыл бұрын
I think she should face consequences, definitely she will be among the many to receive a defamation lawsuit but people are going to make excuses for her actions like they did with Rihanna and Cardi B.
@TheChildofdasouf3 жыл бұрын
@@UnBR0k3enAngel great point.
@rellrell38623 жыл бұрын
It don’t matter she got her degree and money and ppl are still going to fuck with her. It don’t matter she is going to be good.
@unstoppablesk83003 жыл бұрын
Sequence of events In my opinion, tory is smashing both friends on the low, they all get drunk at the party, and the truth comes out, kylie who was flirting with tory at the party too kicks meg out for being too drunk and jealous, meg and kelsey confront each other and probably get into a physical fight inside the car over tory and whatever backround issues they already had, meg beats kelseys ass, and gets out of the car, leaves the door open, kelsey flips out in a blind rage trying to get her revenge, grabs torys gun, tory tries to wrestle the gun away from her and the gun goes off, hits the ground, fragments from either the ground or the bullet go into megs foot, and when she turns she sees tory holding the gun that he took from kelsey, her being drunk and belligerent decides it was tory who pulled the trigger then they all panic and get back in the car to try to get away from the scene so they dont get in trouble for firing the gun in the first place
@54dbruno3 жыл бұрын
Tory would have gun shot residue on himself if that happened... Tory probably grabbed the gun after it had been fired
@SLUBUG3 жыл бұрын
Very probable
@thequeenaja82692 жыл бұрын
Or maybe Meg got beat up and grab the gun and was so drunk she dropped it and it went off because clearly there's no bullet fragments in her foot
@ThePrometheus6173 жыл бұрын
This is some awesome common sense and logical conversation We need more of this !!!
@Brehon_TalkingFinance3 жыл бұрын
Two things. 1. The accusation is more harmful than anything else. 2. When Dr's perform an evaluation, and find a gunshot, they must report the gunshot? Someone is getting arrested for malicious wounding minimum.
@wraithyoshidj67023 жыл бұрын
She saw jussie smollett and said yes this is what i wanna do 😂😂😂😂
@deangelojackson69523 жыл бұрын
He better sue the shit out of her if she lied. He had a bomb ass album out at the time that didn’t get any recognition
@DarkClouds-v83 жыл бұрын
Now one of the best albums of the year
@davesandfriends13 жыл бұрын
Could of had a drake features weeknd features smh
@PPCCO.3 жыл бұрын
Joe was on point. That Netflix deal was weird timing
@damarcusmomm053 жыл бұрын
TMZ even changed their stories.
@raised_different3 жыл бұрын
We must protect Joe at all costs
@shernitajackson13933 жыл бұрын
ANDDDD This segment is th reason I fell in love with th JBP! Joe is problematically smart and a dangerous thinker! When Joe is in his podding bag, No one can touch him!!!!
@smdddddddddddddddddd3 жыл бұрын
Proud of you Joe. Extremely proud.
@DENDEAURA3 жыл бұрын
Legit…
@twinborn38502 жыл бұрын
💯
@gettingupiseverything91653 жыл бұрын
So many black women trying to give me the business because I did not believe her from the moment saying go I knew she was lying the story never made any sense this is Los Angeles there is no way they're not going to lock up a rapper for shooting someone
@tara45633 жыл бұрын
All I can say is, Joe, thank you for the gems in this.
@wheeless053 жыл бұрын
Joey never disappoints. Let him cook! Tell it Joe!
@jalenprince22743 жыл бұрын
Man When Joe get in this mode he's better than every podcaster out
@tlovespeaksss3 жыл бұрын
"That's a nice prego" was the haymaker of this whole clip lmao
@Lexiannasam3 жыл бұрын
I’m telling you, Kelsey did it. They’re protecting her it seems.
@tyannadyer96553 жыл бұрын
I say the same thing!! If it’s true they were fighting over Tory then it gives her a motive!
@mileshamorrison90643 жыл бұрын
Or, Megan's injury was actually from a glass and not a bullet. Possibility, they were fighting over the gun and it accidentally went off, but that does not mean a bullet hit anyone. An ME needs to take the stand and confirm her injury was caused by a bullet or glass. Then we can go from there.
@whataload03 жыл бұрын
I’ve said this before, Tory is protecting Kelsey 1 because she’s a woman and 2 they had relations. And Megs team told her to say Tory cuz they knew he wouldn’t throw Kelsey under the bus. Megs team didn’t want the narrative that Meg stole her friends man and got into a fight to come out, and they were not expecting this to go to trial cuz Meg wasn’t pressing charges. They just thought they’d accuse Tory and continue with the narrative. But LAPD said nah. Now Meg has been MIA since the trial no Christmas posts nothing.
@erinnirre3 жыл бұрын
right cause why is she so quiet?
@robertbailey56523 жыл бұрын
This story have been suspect from day 1, Giving the climate I'm not surprised by that people rushed to judgement there was more holes in her account than Swiss cheese,Can anyone explain to me how no bones were broken if she was shot in both feet? Why isn't her and her female friend stop talking to each other after Megan was supposedly shot?
@hublotkingcole6833 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm tripping on, if homegirl was quiet because of Meg, why isn't she right there after she named tory.
@eking57153 жыл бұрын
I don't think she was shot. I can't wait to hear from the medical team that treated her and how the fragments are missing. It's getting interesting.
@robertbailey56523 жыл бұрын
I just don't believe Tory shot her I can break down why but Joe Budden took my thunder
@ImCaliKidOfficial3 жыл бұрын
@@eking5715 Her injuries are more consistent with being cut by glass shards
@mileshamorrison90643 жыл бұрын
@@eking5715 I don't think she was shot either. Can't wait for an ME to take the stand and tell us whether her injury was caused by a bullet graze or broken glass.
@mjp54253 жыл бұрын
One of joe’s best breakdowns! It says alot that all the other platforms saying nothing. The signs are on the wall and still people dont want to see it. Tory is innocent.
@philb7073 жыл бұрын
The minute he wasnt in jail for "shooting" her I knew sumtin wasn't rite
@IAmHeartbreak_3 жыл бұрын
Top Tier Podding at its finest... It was the breakdown we didn't know we needed.
@ZendayaG3 жыл бұрын
I remember a convo on clubhouse when this first happened with a bunch of ppl from the industry saying Meg was really drunk and confused and doesn't remember how it went down exactly, but that it wasn't Tory. I remember thinking well they from the industry they must know sumn. Maybe they was right. 🤷🏾♀️
@clarkkent523 жыл бұрын
Joe is a gas lighting snake..he sh!tted on Tory even against the evidence he wouldn't go against Meg because he couldn't go against Jay Z team...Joe is a smooth gasligh
@zclan41303 жыл бұрын
If I’m being honest though, I think this is all intentional. Jay-z had just signed Meg. He wasn’t going to invest in her for her to just flop. She made him a lot of money last year, but her numbers have been winding down a lot. She went from 100k first week to 30k first week, so I think jay-z can see that he got his money out of her and doesn’t need her anymore.
@iHateStevenRice3 жыл бұрын
Facts while Meg shouldn't even be dropping music but Roc nation and 300 trying to out money her contract owner in courts while consistently dropping music against his consent she's gonna have the hardest fall from grace
@ZendayaG3 жыл бұрын
@@iHateStevenRice idk imo she not that talented, and if she lied about Tory, she should get her comeuppance 💯
@ZYaKnoe2493 жыл бұрын
This was legit a compelling breakdown
@jaygib25963 жыл бұрын
We been saying for two years “Tory ain’t shoot nobody”
@jamo27983 жыл бұрын
If Joe stays talking his shit like this, I'm coming back. I didn't like corporate Joe
@vavavogue40703 жыл бұрын
I’m a women and never believed what Meg was saying