Absolutely want to see a turbo setup on a 8.1 the sooner the better really enjoy your videos very entertaining very educational thank you
@rlscustoms4 жыл бұрын
8.1 Gen7 oh hell yes, would love to see a junk yard 8.1 with Raylar heads running on an LS1 computer
@timothybayliss66804 жыл бұрын
I really like this idea too. You need to really tune it but it works.
@rlscustoms4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of being able to swap an 8.1 into any gas GMT800 truck with it being pretty much plug & play while tuning the stock ECU to run the 8.1
@tommurray23774 жыл бұрын
Richie Rich what about Tcm and Trans not sure if the 8100 would bolt up to like an 80e 🤔
@rlscustoms4 жыл бұрын
Tom Murray 8.1 has the 4L85E behind it
@dustinjackson86464 жыл бұрын
HELL yeah, 8100. Anxiously awaiting that. They're starting to pop up in pick a part junk yards 😁
@veenieyourmom9123 жыл бұрын
Almost no after market support there is one company but shit is expensive af
@jethrow2433 жыл бұрын
Change pistons b4 you add more than 8 pounds of boost on the 8.1
@samlucas43813 жыл бұрын
7400* the 8100 was the 8.1l 496 mad in the early 2000's
@5point3Rob4 жыл бұрын
That’s actually very surprising. This is one of the most informative KZbin channels I’ve ever came across. Your channel should be bigger then what it is.
@richardholdener17274 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@EGGINFOOLS4 жыл бұрын
Get one of those 8100 big blocks up there. I know they are similar to this
@GIGABACHI4 жыл бұрын
The 8100 is closer to the LSx family than the O.G BBC. Specially the intake ports arrangement. But back to your suggestion, YES, I would like to see that too. 👌🏻😎👍🏻
@brandonpanozzo864 жыл бұрын
Im in on this for sure
@EGGINFOOLS4 жыл бұрын
@@GIGABACHI The 8100 is nothing like the ls engine family.
@GIGABACHI4 жыл бұрын
@@EGGINFOOLS LOL, OK, I honestly wasn't expecting any other type of answer from you. Can we leave it at that ? 👌🏻😁
@EGGINFOOLS4 жыл бұрын
@@GIGABACHI Absolutely. I'm not in the game of changing minds. Just Google it for yourself
@ChadLisonbee4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely do an 8.1. I’ve been curious about those for years!!! I feel like the capabilities of those is very underestimated. I’m also curious if you ever did a 3.5 ecoboost Big Bang?
@shitbox74134 жыл бұрын
The cylinder heads are the limiting factor with the 8.1, and aftermarket support is very limited...
@johnparrish92154 жыл бұрын
@@shitbox7413 There are aftermarket Heads, Cams, and Intakes from RAYLAR.
@ChadLisonbee4 жыл бұрын
Shit Box I understand the limiting factors. But there are options. I have yet to see a set of home ported heads on one or see someone push it to a Big Bang.
@shitbox74134 жыл бұрын
John Parrish, I’m well aware of the Raylar 8.1 parts, their stuff is very expensive, for what it would cost you to buy a junkyard 8.1, and add the Raylar stuff to it, then buy an ignition box to control the coils, you’d have way more money in it than it’s worth. There’s a reason 8.1 swaps aren’t popular.
@shitbox74134 жыл бұрын
Vertical Pedal Garage, 8.1’s don’t have enough piston to valve clearance or guide clearance to accommodate much more lift than the stock cam has, modifications would have to be made for high lift camshafts that would be needed to take advantage of extensive port work.
@SkypowerwithKarl4 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you have so much emphasis on ring gap on boosted engines. The first sign that you really know what you’re doing.
@troyledbetter6597 Жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed watching and rewatching your 454 videos! I would like to see a gen 6 turbocharged (fuel injected, stock or aftermarket )454 for towing that would go in my 96 3/4 ton Chevy.
@rickboretirementplan4 жыл бұрын
I have a 8100 in a motor home very good engine. And a ZZ502 in a 67 camaro love the big blocks.
@The980Junior4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if I had bed time movies tonight. Thank you!!
@WTC74 жыл бұрын
Were you waiting to see what was on Alfred Hitchcock Presents?
@The980Junior4 жыл бұрын
J T who? Something from Holdner or Happel.
@TheRealToykilla51504 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@robrem66214 жыл бұрын
How about some BBF twin turbo / boosted videos... Any chance Rich?
@richardholdener17274 жыл бұрын
yes
@g19672 жыл бұрын
Good ole 454bbc..my great uncle ran 454's in his oil field hot shot service..always had 1 fully rebuilt & ready to be dropped in if the one in the truck reached 400k miles..& he did numerous times!
@clintonmaurer57584 жыл бұрын
8100 chevy next. Dart makes a carb intake for them. Test one of those big boys
@jakevalent61804 жыл бұрын
Hes done a 500 already
@brianfrost3034 жыл бұрын
As a mopar guy, I would love to see some boosted SBM and BBM on your channel.
@shitbox74134 жыл бұрын
Brian Frost, I would like to see that too...
@noiseinthebushes63644 жыл бұрын
Yea me too
@cowsauce90994 жыл бұрын
8.1 8.1 8.1 VORTEC 8100 LESSS GOOOO!!!!
@99EvilMonkey4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this same basic test on two other engines. - A Gen V 454 with it's lower compression, a set of iron Vortec heads, and boost. - A Gen V 454 with aftermarket heads (same stock pistons), and boost. - A GMC 305 V6 boosted until it breaks!
@ramprider694 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the 8.1, always wondered what gm left for room in them
@Godsy_Garage4 жыл бұрын
I love that it’s all about Real Numbers and Facts for you! You always have the dump logs and always test everything you can get your hands on to learn everything you can! Keep putting them out ! Can you do a video of you going to get a junkyard motor and what all you look for ,what to watch out for?
@johnparrish92154 жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB !!!! I would love to see the 8.1 tests, hardly anyone pays any attention to them.
@idriwzrd4 жыл бұрын
Yes to the 8.1L. Richard, your videos are the best.
@shadvan94944 жыл бұрын
I don't remember what episode of engine masters it was, but Steve Brule says "Nothing Beats an LS.. Except a Big Block Chevy". I love the BBC. it is my favorite engine. I have had several over the years, I got my first taste for speed in the early 80's in a 76 Hondo flat bottom V-Drive boat with an LS7 crate long block with a tunnel ram and twin Holley double pumpers. After it dropped a valve, I swapped it to a L88 out of a corvette. I currently have a LS3 396 in my 71 Camaro that has be warmed over quite a bit. I am currently looking at building a new 496 to replace it.
@ChristopherGaul4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely want to see you do something similar with the 8.1L ! Though I'd like to see what you can get out of the factory EFI before you switch to carb.
@patlandymore70354 жыл бұрын
Any big block test is a great test, so count me in on the 8.1 too!
@timoneal96544 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard. Just what I wanted to see. A video wish list does include the 8.1L with similar steps. Also, more on this motor with turbos before the head swap but understand if you go the other way. Perhaps a roots blower too if there is merit to this.
@troystuart86014 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a L29 454 in my '96 K3500, 290 HP ain't enough!! ;)
@staninoshawa4 жыл бұрын
Great channel. As far as the trending lean I'd put on a larger volume hat with the hat facing straight forward or rear, 0.024' HSABs, again use the vent tube extensions just inside the throat to the carb hat. yes use the BAPV WITH 0.080" PVCR holes, open (drill) the channels feeding the boosters as large as possible without compromising the booster. Since the metering blocks have replaceable bleeds inthe main wells, be sure the 2nd from the bottom is plugged and the bottom one is around .020". let me know how it works out.
@johnmillican31827 ай бұрын
Nearly 15 psi at peak torque on a 9:1 engine has me curious about the fuel type used in the dyno testing. What would this combo net with pump gas tolerant boost levels? Love the videos, Richard. Very informative without the BS.
@kencaven9080 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to add a intercooler to my 363 CU IN SBC currently running a Pro Charger and making 762 hp. Maybe adding about 40 hp and hopefully increasing my mph from 192.045 to over 200 mph at Bonneville.Salt flats. Great video and information thanks
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
if you run ice water it will help a lot-but it takes a lot of power to add 8 mph!
@kencaven9080 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 yes my plan is to run ice…thanks
@darwinfridgeseals7414 жыл бұрын
Lower comression and up in Power, Cant wait to see the next video, Great video Richard, Keep em coming.
@mrbigg72554 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Can’t wait to see the Brodix heads.
@jakemyler85244 жыл бұрын
@Richard Holdener your videos are outstanding! Keep up the good work! I hope your channel keeps on growing!
@richardholdener17274 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@moneyshot22394 жыл бұрын
Came here to say YES to the 8.1L but looks like I was late to the party haha
@TheDude21114 жыл бұрын
A big block series would be cool. every one loves an underdog small block, but big block heavy weights have such good output that there's almost no substitute for. These videos illustrate the old adage "no replacement for displacement".
@timothydenoon30914 жыл бұрын
Loving all this big block testing. Been thinking about doing a similar setup like this in a 69 GMC. Keep it coming and keep up the good work!!
@rongravel45854 жыл бұрын
Oooo 8.1 test. Yea do that. I always wanted to put one of those threw the ringer and see what it does.
@tommurray23774 жыл бұрын
Yes to the 8.1! I keep seeing them for cheap be nice to know what I could do with one!
@ericjon2624 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the 8.1, I would also like to see how the factory EFI 454 manifold responds to a cam, and boost compared to the dual plane. I always thought those manifolds looked cool.
@johncramm97024 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ntwtransam4 жыл бұрын
Was the boosted set up still with the performer rpm intake?
@richardholdener17274 жыл бұрын
yes
@tptrsn4 жыл бұрын
This is all great Richard, but I want to see (eventually) whether the big block can outperform the LS Big Bang engines! We need some big twins on this sucker eventually. Oh yeah, 8.1 test would be excellent also.
@TwiztedMatt10074 жыл бұрын
Stupid thankful the KZbin dieties deemed your channel worth for me! Getting through your backlog of videos as quickly as I can! Was wondering, could we get a video on cam swaps for Smog vehicles? I understand overlap is what causes them to fail. Maybe a comparison of 0 or - overlap cams? Also would love a video showing the effects of advancing and retarding camshafts on the Dyno! Keep up the good work!
@cys8044 жыл бұрын
Yes! Need to see the 8.1 on here also maybe a mid 90s 460? Do a little head to head with 454
@erenzoscroggins80564 жыл бұрын
Great Info.... Can't wait for the next test
@nate51024 жыл бұрын
Dude your so cool ! Love what you do
@fascistpedant7584 жыл бұрын
The 8100 would definitely be interesting. Have you ever tried an A2W IC just filled with water but without flow? I'm curious as to whether it's thermal mass alone would be sufficient on a ~10 second pull. Pleasantly surprised to see you posting today. Many thanks.
@richardholdener17274 жыл бұрын
i have done a circulation vs non test
@fascistpedant7584 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 Any video? I can't find anything.
@chadgardee14964 жыл бұрын
Should do a gen ll sbc vortec see what it does on boost stock 😁🤔 would be cool too see bcz I see those every day still in junk yards
@kirkmason15274 жыл бұрын
Another vote on the 8.1!! Awesome videos
@marcstlaurent37194 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the 8.1 and see what you can do with the limited support they have
@kevinjohnson93724 жыл бұрын
U can add boost to anything as long as it can be tuned not sure how much roo there would be n the engine compartment
@rickiesaffelder86634 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Definitely interested in the 8.1L test. I would love to see junkyard turbos, intercooler and engine. Let's see if you can make more power reliably with the late model BBC or the LS stuff. What a great time to be a gearhead.
@TurboJohnRacing4 жыл бұрын
Nice, that is a lot of power. I too would love to see it in twin turbo setup.
@adamspencer81994 жыл бұрын
I love what you do.that said,a big block is usually chosen for torque at a very low rpm. I’ve never had the budget for a 7000 rpm big block. I’m curious about cams in this application
@pablojanski.25594 жыл бұрын
What fuel and timing Richard?
@jdb1219994 жыл бұрын
Are you in the midwest? I have a crazy (60+0) cars on a farm in St Joseph MO. Import, domestic, Europe. Mostly rwd, manual cars whenever possible. Someone is going to geek out and do a great KZbin channel with these, no disappointments!
@jonathanmartini66314 жыл бұрын
You read my mind!!!! I was just wanting to see something like this!!! Thanks!!!😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
@mxguy24384 жыл бұрын
Same timing before and after intercooler? I like to see these older motors getting some love.
@tomslater51984 жыл бұрын
Love the big block stuff.
@philipmacduffie76124 жыл бұрын
Can we do the vortech 8100 with the Taiwan wind whistles? (gt45s). The ultimate in dirt cheap. The 8100s are never poached like a ls2/lq4/l33s.
@andrewinsinga29934 жыл бұрын
I definitely want to see a 8.1L test!
@jimmy_olds4 жыл бұрын
More Big block Chevies? Hell yeah!!! Have any BOP stuff in your years of testing??
@thejavelin78324 жыл бұрын
Please do an 8.1L! I've owned two and still have one. The other truck now lives with my parents, and it has 270k miles on it runs as good as my current truck with only 115k. Great engine. Raylar makes aluminum heads, cams, roller rockers, intakes, pistons...
@BlueCollarBen4 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener. Do you have plans to do a high compression with low boost vs low compression with high boost comparison? Long story short wanting to do a 416 CI LS3 with a 4.0 whipple, and I wanna get the most power I can on pump gas. I would love to hear your thoughts, or see what info you have on it.
@richardholdener17274 жыл бұрын
I don't have access to good knock sensor equipment
@BlueCollarBen4 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener Dang it, I remember you mentioning that in a previous video now. Thanks for the reply tho, you’ve got some really good content. Keep it up 👍
@fascistpedant7584 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 That kinda sucks. We need to find a solution to that.
@BlueCollarBen4 жыл бұрын
Mctig Mctiggy we don’t have e85 where I’m at, the nearest place is ~110 miles away and that’s no good for a daily
@ts3024 жыл бұрын
This topic peaked my interest. IMHO, I believe it's the pressure within the cylinder that will determine the knock threshold of any given fuel. How that pressure is created, high CR, high CR & low boost, or low CR & high boost should not matter as long as the tuning is optimised for the combination. Theories are great, however the BS stops on the dyno/testing. Please Richard make this happen. Thank you
@MyLonewolf254 жыл бұрын
I want to see a Big Bang on this or especially on a junkyard 350! Also I’d love to see you use a set of those super cheap aluminum ebay 350 sbc heads
@litmus73254 жыл бұрын
Now the real test: how many miles can it run with that?😅😅😅 Also love the video! I'm prepping to build my first motor which ALSO happens to be a 454 from the junkyard! While I'm going for a twin turbo setup, its great to hear how much power you can get from simple stuff like a camshaft and intake, so sounds like I can just drop the motor in with those and then wait till I get the turbos for my next speed fix! Little question: I have a gen IV, NOT a VI. Are the upgrades the same? I know the 70s 454s were notorious for low compression. Any other upgrade ideas?
@racinbirds3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see You do These tests on a stock Pontiac block 🤷🏽♂️
@427Louie4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a 8.1 test. Maybe a Mercruiser HO, or some Raylar stuff?
@hobbesnmina20014 жыл бұрын
Richard been meaning to suggest a dyno test based on equalizing power of different cubic inch size motors via supercharger boost. It would only be valid supercharger since they are driven by a pulley ratio. A few years ago I made an Excel sheet using supercharger volumes and ratios. One can enter the bore and stroke and see how much boost the blower will make and also pounds of force via boost per square inch. I did it to see the differences between engine combinations in nostalgia classes were a 6-71 blower is allowed. The feedback is super interesting but it would be an awesome addition with known dyno results! If you are interested I could send you a copy of the spreadsheet. I’m always looking at the different boost results in your dyno runs when you test different blowers and a class with a single blower allowed and a max drive ratio the blower is an equalizer. The bigger engine will make less boost and the smaller engine will have more boost. 454 vs 350 example. Then there’s bore vs stroke with a blower as the shorter stroke larger bore will have more lbs of force vs the torque of a longer stroke smaller bore combination. Thanks and take care Carlos
@brandonbateson90224 жыл бұрын
Love to see some gen 4 stuff, flat tappet budget build be sweet those engines are everywere
@tomk47394 жыл бұрын
8.1 with big single turbo, then with twins!
@adrianlaverick80404 жыл бұрын
Do the same test but with the factory intake for us Efi guys!!
@MississippiDan14 жыл бұрын
When are you going to do the "how much boost will a junk yard 454 take" video? You mentioned it a while back but i haven't seen it yet.
@damianellis35544 жыл бұрын
yes i love too see 490 my next build what about the valve shrouding I'm a 706 heads love too see that too
@CLIPSPODCASTSHOW4 жыл бұрын
O! Now you can do the methenol injection setup now to see the difference between intercooler and methanol! Now your chance to see! I'll be waiting for that video!
@mam3464 жыл бұрын
Love the big block content
@michaelblackmon50104 жыл бұрын
I want to see that stock trim with boost, just like it sits under the hood but with a turbo(s). I also want to see how you are using the Holley HP tuner to run all that stock stuff. Its got to be better than the 0411 program/swap/whatever or shipping your ecu off to be flashed. Can you do a video on that or at least point me in the right direction.
@timothybayliss66804 жыл бұрын
Richard, i like that you use CX racing parts and test them hard like this. I am really looking hard at getting some stuff from them and its hard to buy an endorsement like this. This big block also looks perfect for a boat. Marine cam, air to water intercooler...
@scotthansen22404 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a big bang 8.1!
@OCofthe34 жыл бұрын
Richard, can you explain how dynamic compression works when adding boost? As you know in a NA application, cams are designed to work with a certain compression ratio. But it seems like this gets thrown out the window when you add boost to the equation. How does this influence cam choice?
@randallslocum52524 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the 4.7L Dodge Big Bang from mild to wild!!
@sfbmx884 жыл бұрын
Yess, 8.1 test please. Can you do a BIG BANG K-series Honda too? :)
@TontoJive4 жыл бұрын
What happened to your previous run with the dual supercharged carb setup???? You asked for the answer and it was in the comments
@jimkillen10654 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this thanks
@kirbywinters12913 жыл бұрын
This really has me wanting to build a k20 pickup with a big block and 4l80e behind it
@CrusherZGaming4 жыл бұрын
Def want to see the 8.1 test
@wisheye14 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a budget build using a 400 small block with bone stock short block assembly. Put a hyd flat tappet cam in it and heads, intake, carb. Lets see what it will do.
@bad406camaro4 жыл бұрын
Do a gen 7 8.1l 496. I am garage building one now (stock) but the head ports look amazing like a hybrid LS / bbc port. I will post youtube video of the assembly. would be great to see you beat all the horsepower you can out of one!
@rustymedendorp48754 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite test so far love it I would love to talk to you about my combination if it is at all possible
@RandBLSWorld4 жыл бұрын
Yes ! 8.1 test please !
@chuck74654 жыл бұрын
Can you share the differences in spark timing between these configurations?
@danielgarcia-tq9zx4 жыл бұрын
graet test, like to see change the fuel temperature to see what affect it would have the supercharged version. in the old days we used cool cans.
@Ugrasrava4 жыл бұрын
L18 496 next? It's a 454 with a factory stroker kit in it, and my limited knowledge and experience tell me "454 good, 496 better."
@codystrock17004 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some 8.1l Vortec testing.
@jessemurray17574 жыл бұрын
yes of course we want to see it.
@williamgrant57834 жыл бұрын
Great test . LOL , Do you have happy dyno's ?
@compted104 жыл бұрын
Would like to see the 8.1l on the Dyno. Big bang style.
@mikemoore72714 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome video when can I send you my suburban 5-speed manual so that you can help me ProCharge this sucker 😂 awesome video brother.
@GorrellFamilyRacing4 жыл бұрын
I would definitely like to see some 8.1 tests.
@johnhazel99864 жыл бұрын
Holdner videos are awesome
@jdb1219994 жыл бұрын
Richard, just curious, not calling out a cheat or anything. When you open the SBE to do ring gap, do you use new bearings and ARP connecting rod bolts? Seems like a perfect time to do so, so would you recommend?
@richardholdener17274 жыл бұрын
we don't on the big bang motors
@jdb1219994 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 I certainly understand, so as to compare apples to apples, but I'm sure you agree perfect time to do so. I had placed this request before, but how about a LS, Turbo E85, non-intercooed, super cheap build?
@brentspence33794 жыл бұрын
@@jdb121999 I've seen 10x more problems with adding ARP rod bolts in ls stuff than reusing the stock stuff. Bearings usually look mint in 250k mile motors.
@jdb1219994 жыл бұрын
@@brentspence3379 Interesting, thanks!
@jdb1219994 жыл бұрын
@@brentspence3379 Also, Brent, what would you do while the engine is out?
@adamkelly75184 жыл бұрын
Another great vid! Please do 8.1l test 🙏🙏🙏🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇
@Mr62biscayne4 жыл бұрын
What was the compression? And Yes do an 8.1. Great videos thank you
@richardholdener17274 жыл бұрын
stock
@GIGABACHI4 жыл бұрын
9.00 : 1.
@oldschoolbudgetracing14584 жыл бұрын
I want to see this engine with a twin turbo set up..... or hell do a big bang with a junk yard 454 and a junk yard 350.