MEGA Lot of Chesapeake & Ohio Locomotives from eBay - Unboxing

[@thomasjpearce6107]

SMT, just stumbled on your unboxing video and can't help but notice some of the units being unboxed. The "Athearn" unit at the 1:15 mark is an older Stewart Baldwin AS616 road switcher. At the 1:57 mark, you had it right: that's an E7. Differences were the exhaust (4 stacks on the roof), side windows (square windows arranged in pairs vs the E8s 4 portholes) and grille locations (E8s sported one long grille stretching from beyond cab door to rear of unit). At 3:34, that's a proto 2000 E8. As mentioned elsewhere, the pilots were a separate part for ease of maintenance and interchangeability. I think they had 3 different pilot designs offered. If you really want to get those E8s running, I'd replace those Proto wheels with newer Proto replacement wheels.

[@SMTMainline]

Nice catches, thanks for the info!

[@thomasjpearce6107]

@@SMTMainline glad to help. I've rebuilt my fair share of motive power

[@neanderthal88]

You're so funny sometimes That coupler sticking out of the side trucks and whoosh!

[@SMTMainline]

I'm sometimes surprised by what I miss. It can be tricky to notice small details while trying to focus on what you're saying.

[@williammcgeehan3424]

5:26 BL2 ( Branch Line 1500 horsepower ) Identical internally to the EMD F3 but with a different carbody. The BL2 was too late ( 1948 ) to make inroads as a branch line diesel. That market went to Alco with the Alco S1 S2 S3 S4 series of end cab diesels and the Alco RS1. Not to mention the many SW1 NW2 and Baldwin VO1000 diesels running around and it explains why only a grand total of 59 BL2s were ever built. EMD did use the BL2 as a stepping stone for the EMD GP7.

[@jdubs78]

Great lot. Those AS-616 units are made by Stewart Hobbies. They have a standard Athearn drive in them. Some newer ones had Kato drives. They’re really sharp and interesting units.

[@popcat2214]

You were the first KZbinr I ever watched and you have gotin' me into model rainroading

[@gamingrobin3979]

same

[@randallellison6421]

Nice locomotives Harrison! The Proto 2000 E units have removable pilots, hence the reason they're not attached to the locomotives. They just simply slide into place and they should stay, but a tiny drop of CA wouldn't hurt. These locomotives also have doors for the front coupler which can be moved inward and outward via the mounting holes, but honestly, I'd just leave the doors off the front pilots, they are an absolute pain to keep them attached, I had to do that with my Frisco E8 because they kept falling off!

[@garysprandel1817]

IIRC a lot of roads eventually removed the coupler doors because it was mainly an esthetic device anyway.

[@randallellison6421]

@@garysprandel1817 yeah, virtually every photo of Frisco's E units had the front coupler exposed. Plus I'd imagine it made things easier and quicker when the locomotive needed to be switched out or another unit being added to the point because they wouldn't have to go through the process of opening the access doors and bringing the coupler out.

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks for the info, I will have to try and re-attach them.

[@casstelles]

The pilots on the Proto 2000 E8s are removable, and they are not broken. When the E8s are packaged in box, the pilots are removed, and the shell is separated from the drive. As far as the F units, they could be Stewart or Intermountain. The two 6 axle road switchers (C&O 5539, 5568 - Baldwin AS-616) should be made by Stewart. Also, your E7A is made by Con-Cor. I though these were made by Model Power, but they don't have the mounting screw on the top in which was changed when Con-Cor started to import them from Roco.

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks for the info.

[@kevinbeverly4086]

Those are all really nice locomotives.

[@kurtstrains]

The F7s are probably Intermountain they use a Kato drive.

[@bryanwoodward7687]

I am also a big fan of the C&O and I do model the railroad in n scale… Those are very nice C&O locomotives… I am glad you like the C&O also..

[@Dmitri_Q]

Never gets old this guy is amazing!!

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks a bunch!

[@Dmitri_Q]

@@SMTMainline your welcome:) you inspired me to make my own channel your the best

[@csxrailfan632]

@@Dmitri_Qsame here bro!

[@donsgotmoney]

The C&O 4522 is an older Model Power e unit. They called them old coffee grinders, that is what they sound like when they run. Has a huge amp drawing motor in them.

[@billfusionenterprise]

Katos are so smoooooth. I look for the green box ones and yellow box atlas ones at train shows

[@jessicacollins5160]

Hello Harrison! My 5 year old (who was almost named Harrison) has been watching train videos since he was 18 months old. He has autism and ADHD and refers to your videos as “I wanna watch “hello folks, in todays video”” and he even says it like you. He was watching a video this morning and was saying “mommy!!! We have a runner”. He also is learning the names of trains, i.e. Bachman, Lionel, etc. Thank you so much for the content and know it’s helping future train enthusiasts (and their moms) to learn about the trade. ❤

[@garysprandel1817]

Yeah the Mars light was additional visibility devices. The red lamp while it could be activated manually it was also usually set to come on in an emergency brake application.

[@SMTMainline]

It seems like a great safety feature.

[@billybobjoe8213]

Cool trains

[@explodingtoast9898]

Agreed!

[@infinity6450]

That B unit became a pro drifter for a second there.

[@williammcgeehan3424]

1:00 By Stewart, a Baldwin AS 616 ( All Service 6 axles 1600 horsepower )

[@williammcgeehan3424]

3:30 That's not a broken pilot taped to the top of the E8. Proto 2000 made them that way. The pilot was to be attached after you took the locomotive out of the box.

[@SMTMainline]

That's good news.

[@cooperludwig3842]

another banger from Harrison

[@rich_rich90]

Some very nice locos in that lot!

[@mrrailfan95]

Yes yes yes another smt mainline lot I love these videos keep it up

[@davidstrainsandlego]

Nice lot of stuff, C&O E units are some of my favorite looking locomotives

[@SPD_TRAINZ]

That’s the most Chesapeake & Ohio locos in one spot I ever seen congrats on the winning the bid I just bid for daylight coaches cause the sp 4449 is my favorite, again congrats on the lot❤🎉🎉

[@dbtech7914]

Wow, a powered B unit and E engines. Very cool purchase! I like the Chesapeake & Ohio.

[@MattKonsol]

Its a great rr here!

[@nickdebenedetto9904]

Nice haul. The E7 is not hobbytown, they never made a plastic shell or chassis, with the exception of the RS units offered in 1957. Still one of the nicest paint jobs ever done...in my opinion.

[@gamingwithlukeJToH]

I can tell which railroad was this guy's favorite... and I personally like C&O too. It has a pretty neat paint job

[@josephkearney9319]

The Con-Cor Switcher will serve you well. Con-Cor made great products. I owned an N Scale PA-1 Daylight Express locomotive bought back in the mid 70's ( My brother has it now). It's still running like a Champ to this day.

[@josephkearney9319]

We took the Con Cor PA-1 and it's B unit and paired with a set of Revell Daylight Express passenger cars and it was a beautiful train

[@joallawestervelt6918]

Looks like you have some really nice locomotives. All they need is the Harrison Touch to make them the best they can be. Sorry I have been missing in action. I got really sick, nearly dieing with covid induced sepsis. Time in hospital, that I don't remember the over a month in a facility before cleared of covid and able to come home. Am looking at months of healing from covid brain fog. Has really affected my memory. A little better each day but is a big battle. But glad I am able to watch your videos again.

[@SMTMainline]

That's horrible - I'm really sorry to hear you had to go through that but I'm glad you're starting to recover. This virus seems to effect people in many different ways, some far worse than others.

[@DavidSmith-dm8ew]

Great haul, for older loco's I like the proto 2000, they have more detail then an athearn blue box and you can swap parts from one to the other.

[@csxns]

They are some of the best locomotives if it was me they will be keepers.

[@billfusionenterprise]

FYI, proto copied athearn blue box, except they use cheap plastic gears. One trick , i heard is you can use athean parts in them

[@markwilliams2620]

BL2 was in the first runs of Proto 2000 equipment. As such they had better detail and drives than earlier Life-Like locomotives, but hadn't switched to nickel-silver wheels. Edit:. The red light is strictly for reversing movements by the locomotive. Some passenger stations require reversing into them and per FRA regulations the rear of a train must display a red marker.

[@paulbervid1610]

Harrison great video as always. Awsome deal on the lot if engines.

[@n4pwx]

I would love to find a lot like those on Ebay. I love the C&O RR.

[@LIMPGUITAR]

amazing work SMT! Maybe you'll get C&O's whole roster some day!

[@billfusionenterprise]

depends on the year, they do change over time, mergers

[@LIMPGUITAR]

@@billfusionenterprise yea I guess then you would have to collect chessie system locomotives as well as CSX

[@billfusionenterprise]

@@LIMPGUITAR well before it was CSX, there was several merger and there was a color change (ever see the story about the cat?). I have a cool C&O book, all steam locos

[@LIMPGUITAR]

@@billfusionenterprise yea I've heard of chessie the kitten, and I've seen steam locomotives in people's collections.

[@billfusionenterprise]

@@LIMPGUITAR I believe it was a calendar thing that became their theme, there is a video on you tube about it

[@diamonddevincooldude0051]

Can’t wait to see those trains on the layout!

[@edwarddavis507]

C&O is my favorite railroad. I think it’s because of my fondness for Chessie. Definitely jealous but thank you for sharing. Such a great haul!

[@ShenandoahRailfan]

I have a P2000 RF&P E9 and the plow comes of fairly easily like yours

[@RapidTransitFan]

Wow Those are some beautiful locomotives!

[@Gravity461]

That’s funny, I recently got an AS-616 locomotive as well that looks to be made by the same manufacturer as your two. It even had the same issue where the motor was falling out and I ended up just hot-gluing it.

[@SMTMainline]

I've done that before, it's not pretty but it works.

[@Gravity461]

It was kind of out of necessity because the flywheels were rubbing the inside of the shell and I didn’t have a better solution

[@MasonSchneider]

Omg that never gets old

[@thomasbeutel7931]

I think those 6 axle Baldwins are by Stewart

[@SMTMainline]

Excellent, I've found Stewart models to be great runners.

[@newhavennscale]

Nice locomotive lot from eBay SMT. Those Kato f-units sure run smoothly.

[@betsymani2734]

Masterpiece locos

[@MosriteCharlie]

Clicking noises on a proto diesel indicate split axle gears - a common problem that is easy to fix with Athearn, NWSL, or A-Line gears. Or, you can buy complete axle/wheel replacements from Walthers. Every Proto engine I ever bought had this problem.

[@billfusionenterprise]

FYI, E units have two prime movers, F-units have one

[@Peepjouster27]

To expand on that, E7s had two 900hp Prime movers. The E stood for Eighteen hundred hp. The FT/F2 had a single 1350hp prime mover. The F stood for Fourteen Hundred hp. Then they just never changed the series letters.

[@SMTMainline]

I heard they could run off one unit in certain cases.

[@billfusionenterprise]

@@SMTMainline depends on load, but if you listen to any intermodel which has about 5 locos, you hear 2 are off

[@flatlandsline1968]

Nice all those engines are so detailed that is so cool great buy SMT!

[@russrh]

I think that build up on the wheels is bullfrog snot

[@stephenrickjr.7519]

Nice find 👍!

[@caboosech]

Chesapeake and Ohio E7 was made by model power I got several of them couple and Amtrak in a couple and Penn Central Like run very well and they pull like crazy

[@SMTMainline]

Model power seems to make pretty solid locomotives in my experience too.

[@MattKonsol]

Man really nice c&o engines you got off eBay btw I hope you’ll fix some of them someday to make them as decent runners again! That con cor nw2 or sw7 does remind of those Lionel postwar ones but in o gauge the no is 622 I like to get it someday but idk. Btw those Kato f7s right there are just really tough here! I do have a con cor conrail emd mp15 I got from the train show flea market here in Canfield ohio probably around 2019 but idk but it has like a Kato drive and it runs pretty fine here so happy I got it.

[@daleroth236]

My first HO engine, Burlington GP20, had brass wheels with rubber band drive.

[@buecomet831]

Ah someone who is a E unit fan, same here m8. I am a huge E8 fan.

[@MoosesWorkshop]

That is a ton of stuff!!!

[@therailfanman2078]

I got a German steam locomotive today

[@Amtk-712]

Very cool! I have one as well!

[@TheGeorgiaRailfanner]

I have a hudson f unit sd18 and a pacific

[@TheUnknown-sh9vz]

Kewl

[@BotheTrainShow]

Cool

[@ATSF2926Productions]

Epic unboxing

[@LoveShaysloco]

Hey SMT this may be a corny idea that to me would look great in a fun way. Plus it would display your locos while having them on the track and ready to run. But as an expansion build a repair yard on your layout. Just a fun idea since I like watching you fix them

[@SMTMainline]

You mean the locomotives in need of repair?

[@LoveShaysloco]

@@SMTMainline yeah or the ones you like to run for your live videos. You can kind of do both. But it's just for fun expansion to your lay our

[@jamesstrickland631]

The first gen P2K loco's had brass wheels, with black coating to protect from corrosion. You can probably still get replacement wheel sets from Walther's, and they will be the Nickel wheels. One thing to be careful of, ALL the P2K E units have floating bearing caps on the outside of the truck side frames, which are bad for popping off and getting lost.

[@PWaco-yq7wr]

I think that railroad went to as CHESSIE SYSTEM and now is CSX. You got some BALDWIN LOCOMOTIVE you got good pair of them get them to run together when you fix them and your A and B also, GOOD BUY,

[@uncleh5460]

Good haul! You have far better luck with E-bay than I do , lol

[@trainwild]

Very nice video! The C&O is definitely really cool 😎 I enjoyed watching and subscribed to your channel. Great unboxing, looks great!👍

[@NorthmassRails]

Well, it seems that the original owner of these certainly modeled the C&O!

[@Wolfsspuren6783]

That is a Lot of Chessecake and cursed land locomotives haha. Nice video! BTW, the BL2 looks sharp in that paintscheme, locomotives N° 5568 and 5539 are Baldwin AS616 if im not wrong, and the Kato F units are the best!!

[@billfusionenterprise]

I agree about Kato, I try to find them at every train show i go. best are yellow box atlas

[@ErickC]

I did a quick search on the road numbers and they are indeed AS616s. The switcher is an SW7 with an S2's road number!

[@billfusionenterprise]

@@ErickC except for rivit counter locos, often number where a stocking thing. I have found out info on some locos by searching those numbers. It has been pointed out that blue locos are fat and not true dimensions

[@Wolfsspuren6783]

​​@@ErickC Stocking numbers haha, that happens a lot in "older" models, i have a UP Greyhound light Pacific in Ho, N° 6783, UP didn't use that number in the real ones, but the engine looks great anyways... BTW, if that swicher has a short front intake opening, is a NW2, the SW7 has a larger one in the front.

[@ErickC]

@@Wolfsspuren6783 : I think you're right. I thought it was an early production SW7 at first (big windows, straight hood slope), but a late-production NW2 makes more sense given that detail I missed.

[@Petemonster62]

SMT - I think those road switchers with the 6-wheel trucks are Baldwin diesels.

[@SMTMainline]

Did Balwin make many diesels?

[@Petemonster62]

@@SMTMainline - SMT- Baldwin made relatively few diesels, mostly for eastern U.S. railroads. But Baldwin made some distinctive diesels - like the familiar " Shark Nose ", but only for a few railroads, not as Tyco would have you believe! They also made the streamlined diesel with the eight-wheel trucks that was nicknamed the "Baldwin Centipede". I think the model of those road switchers begin with the letters "AS".

[@LeviHartz]

I’m from Ohio. This makes me happy seeing all these.🙂

[@michaelmohrmann]

Educational and enjoyable as always. Thank you! :-)

[@EDAWG47828]

Nice lot! I have a cheapskate and Ohio 4522 locomotive in my collection, sadly it does not work anymore

[@raymondsommerfeldt769]

I think that the E7might have been built by Rock for Con-Cor. They used the tooling and drive from the Model Power E7. Should be a pretty HBO loco.

[@bluemoon1648]

Hey SMT! Great video as always! just wanted to say that the proto 2000 E units have removable pilots as to let them fit nicely into their box. They should just slide right on. Just judging by the amount of detail on the locomotive in 0:59, I don't think it is proto 2000, maybe proto 1000 or athearn bluebox. It does look more like a bluebox to me, but I also could be totally wrong, have fun with those new locomotives!

[@SMTMainline]

That's good to know.

[@dc-10luderyliner]

yes he is amazing.😀

[@Mike__B]

Wow that is some haul, granted not sure how much you paid for it, but a nice variety of locomotives of the same scheme, I like it!

[@DaylightMainline4449]

I Have Proto C&O BL2.

[@billfusionenterprise]

proto ones are nicer

[@DaylightMainline4449]

@@billfusionenterprise yeah engine I have when train show on October 1 2022

[@billfusionenterprise]

@@DaylightMainline4449 just be aware of the gear issue

[@DaylightMainline4449]

@@billfusionenterprise it was brand new model.

[@drosselvonflugel4886]

at 1:01 there is still a part left in the plastic wrap stuff

[@SMTMainline]

Nice catch!

[@drosselvonflugel4886]

@@SMTMainline Did you manage to get it?

[@NiklasTheFox]

how many f units do u have ?

[@DukeOfTrains]

Well they are one on the most common ho gauge locomotives so there’s no lack of them

[@Burba55552]

C&O is my favorite

[@David-yo5re]

Nice lot of locomotives you got there Harrison. I'm just wondering what you ended up paying for them.

[@carterjames8829]

I have a question about HO scale locomotives: Is it possible to set up two diesels running back to back without having them pull against each other? In other words, is there a way to remove the shell of the locomotive and put it on backwards so they'll both go the same direction despite one facing forwards and one facing backwards?

[@farqman]

Models on the same track should run in the same direction regardless of which way the front/back of the model is facing. One of them must be wired up wrong and have the positive input of the motor being fed by up the negative pick-ups.

[@carterjames8829]

@@farqman thanks, I see what I can do to make it happen. This really helped out a lot since I'm just getting into HO scale train models.

[@SMTMainline]

They should automatically go the same direction but if they don't you can swap the wires going to the motor which will change the direction.

[@carterjames8829]

@@SMTMainline thanks, that makes so much more sense.

[@HotRodRodney25]

Awesome

[@joemayo8254]

You're probably aware given you're from Ontario, but the C&O operated a route from Port Huron and Detroit to Buffalo and Niagara Falls via. St. Thomas. The C&O even purchased a few locomotives from GMD's plant in London for use on its Canadian routes.

[@SMTMainline]

I wasn't aware of that lol

[@An_Official_Scratcher]

6:39 There's probably a short circuit on one of the light circuits.

[@UrMomsChauffer]

Would love to see that A/B F Unit run as a combo

[@crecencioresendiz2831]

Hermosas locomotoras

[@CR7659]

Your first engine, the Con-Cor, is the old Revell shell with a Kato drive. #2, Stewart AS-616 (Baldwin), Athearn drive components #3 these are well known for the axle gear splitting, brass wheels may indicate it's been repaired at least once. Also possible it's been run a lot and the blackening is worn entirely off the wheels #4 yes Roco made these, they were sold initially by Model Power and later by Con-Cor #5 same as #2 #6 the F-unit is a Stewart using Kato drive #7 same. Stewart initially produced engines using Athearn drive parts, later upgraded to Kato, then to their own clones of Kato. Eventually Stewart sold out to Bowser who makes these engines today. #8 Proto E-units the pilot slides on and off the frame. Should slide right back on, may need to lift the shell a bit. Diaphragm on the first one should also snap back into place Red light on the Proto E-8s simulates a Mars type warning light which was used by a number of roads.

[@lizhiggs2343]

You should get a hornby flying scotsman

[@carterjames8829]

A Hogwarts Express set would be great too.

[@robertlucido3686]

@@carterjames8829 I recently got a Hogwarts Express

[@robertlucido3686]

I'm planning on getting a Flying Scotsman for my birthday this year

[@carterjames8829]

@@robertlucido3686 I've seen both sets on Amazon, and I plan on getting them in the next couple of months or so.

[@SMTMainline]

I think I already have one from TTR

[@mercuryoak2]

That's a really good lot of locomotives I have that same proto 2000 BL2 running has directional lighting on it as yours should have the same and I did have a split gear on mine as well there was several of them. But as soon as I change them out with brand new Athearn gears it works well. I think those wheels that are brass colored I think they try to make them blackened and when they get cleaned it shows their true color

[@connormccord5329]

Just went and looked below the video and saw ur at 82k subs congrats bro I remember when it was under 10k

[@mitchs323]

C & O E-8's had a mars light in the nose, and the headlight was in the door.

[@JPOGers]

What’s your favorite locomotive design? Mine are E8 and 9 units

[@SMTMainline]

Anything similar to an F-Unit.

[@mattomon1045]

on the proto e8/9 the foint pilet are mounted to the frame

[@DukeOfTrains]

The red light is a mars light a non mandatory light that railways put in for the safety of pedestrians and cars and such as it was bright and easy to see and it helped people see a train in the fog and trains had them at both ends back then as diesels were still a relatively new thing railways buying them as steam was used for a while before railways made the full switch apon realizing diesels were cheaper the reason for the light at the front was for running in both directions as people were used to seeing a big cloud of smoke steam coming from a steam locomotive and weren’t used to diesels yet

[@SMTMainline]

Thanks for this information.

[@yambo59]

The BL2 may not have had a split gear, ya had the front truck off the rails when tested - also theres a stray coupler hanging off one of the E unit trucks

[@SMTMainline]

It's probably a stone caught in the gears.

[@MMRails]

Do CN next! Do CN next! That’s very cool. Quite the fleet. Soon you’ll have a locomotive to represent each subscriber you have. Did I already make that joke? Surely you have over 75,000 locomotives by now. 😊

[@SMTMainline]

I dunno if I've heard that one haha. Back to eBay for some CN locomotives now.

[@oskarvalance3041]

Look like you hit the jackpot on this one.

[@tompersing2322]

Hi Harrison. Thanks for your help and inspiration. I would like to find a controler with gauges like yours. I appreciate your help. Thanks. So I did a bit more looking on your site and found the information. Trust me I am more analog than digital. I have the Mrc tech 3 9500 on the way. Thanks again

[@SMTMainline]

I really appreciate hearing that. Also I'm sure you're gonna love the 9500 series, best DC controller money can buy.

[@pl42actherailfan]

Hey SMT, I am newer to restoring locos, and I have a TYCO loco that is riveted, any ideas on how to un-rivet it?

[@DavidSmith-dm8ew]

drill the rivet out, watch his last repair video.

[@johnparker7874]

The Baldwins are Stewart models

[@NFNYPlayz]

Harrison! Run some on your other track, my man!

[@commanderblueproduction2401]

Love these kind of vids oh and for the dead meme (un usual ohio locomotive)

[@SMTMainline]

Lol

[@commanderblueproduction2401]

@@SMTMainline:)

[@ChessieFan5940]

C&O you say. That’s funny, because I’m building a N scale 2’ by 4’ C&O layout. What a quensidence (can’t spell).

[@SMTMainline]

That is funny