Mega Man 2, Is That Game Still Any Good? | Ranking the NES, Episode 43

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The Jeff Gerstmann Show

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@steve43ful 3 ай бұрын

Really stoked to hear Keith David hosting today’s episode!

@threeo8314 3 ай бұрын

If someone tells you to touch kid to see prize, there is most assuredly a cop waiting for you.

@kevinkuenn5733 3 ай бұрын

"Can I whip the kids?" - Jeff Gerstmann

@matthewkemmer 3 ай бұрын

0:05:45 - Mega Man 2 1:13:38 - Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 1:33:00 - Robodemons 1:49:24 - Track & Field 2:13:52 - Captain America and the Avengers 2:36:24 - Barbie Feel better, Jeff!

@ericfuchs123 3 ай бұрын

Wiley Stage 1 music is still unbelievable. The GOAT.

@christianwalker7308 3 ай бұрын

i have heard "its better than Dino wars destruction of spondelues" more times than i ever thought possible and i thank you

@VaporeonEnjoyer1 3 ай бұрын

You gotta pick a really good one as your benchmark. That's how science works.

@furrymessiah 3 ай бұрын

SPONDEELOOS

@darrnellnott07 3 ай бұрын

The drunken master hoo...hue

@Arenow 3 ай бұрын

"No it's not"

@Tuddywutwut 3 ай бұрын

1:32:53 Oh boy, I made the achievement set for Robodemons. I found it one day going through a rom set and felt so cursed by the music that I had to do something to alleviate it. I released it in January 2020. In retrospect while trying to lift my own curse, I may have accidently just ended up spreading it to others. I haven't tried making an achievement set since. P.S. If you're insane enough to attempt the deathless run know that while the game only shows four hearts, there is no cap to them. Stockpile hearts on the early levels to survive the later ones. During testing I would give myself 50 hearts and even then it's pure suffering.

@VaporeonEnjoyer1 3 ай бұрын

If you don't mind sharing, what kind of skill set(s) do you need to make an achievement set? I just started learning Python and I'm wondering if I'll be able to transfer that over. And do different systems require different code languages?

@Tuddywutwut 3 ай бұрын

@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 Check out the "Documentation" link on the homepage. That goes over everything you need to know for achievement creation. It mostly comes down to finding what things are where in RAM, so more complex systems have more RAM to sort through but the functions you use on one system can be used on any.

@Tuddywutwut 3 ай бұрын

@@VaporeonEnjoyer1Check out the "Documentation" section on the home page. It has all the instructions you need to create achievements. It mostly comes down to finding where values are in RAM and creating statements using those values. More complex systems have more RAM but you use the same statements regardless of system.

@Tuddywutwut 3 ай бұрын

Check out the "Documentation" link on the homepage. That has everything you need to know about making achievements. It's mostly going through RAM for specific values and making statements based on those values. More advanced systems have more RAM but you can use the same statements for any system.

@Tuddywutwut 3 ай бұрын

@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 It's mostly going through RAM for certain values and then making statements using those values. More complex systems have more RAM to go through but the statements work regardless of systems. Highly recommend giving it a shot.

@JackSukeru 3 ай бұрын

Mega Man 11 FINALLY added a radial style quick select for the powers and it was fantastic. Even the Throwback 9 & 10 has you toggle through them with the shoulder buttons or *shudder* made you go into the menu

@moat7031 3 ай бұрын

Big day for Athena, moving out of the bottom 5

@Kranzio- 3 ай бұрын

They packed in a pretty decent little game with the most ballin’ soundtrack ever made.

@meyejaco 3 ай бұрын

I don't know why it never occurred to me to just use Metal Man's sawblades all the time. They're multi-directional, powerful, and energy-efficient. And enemies drop energy capsules frequently enough that you can use it without worry. It's a mighty fine weapon.

@DMThigpen 3 ай бұрын

If you REALLY want to min-max it, if you pause the game every third shot the energy never goes down, because it only goes down after four shots and the counter for that resets whenever you pause.

@g.u.959 3 ай бұрын

I try not to since the Metal Blades are SO ubiquitous that it kinda snaps the game’s challenge in half? Don’t get me wrong, they’re wonderful weapons! but they’re past the point of “too good” that nothing else really even compares - which is kinda like the game as a whole. It’s good, but still unbalanced

@ctrlaltdestroy91 3 ай бұрын

@@DMThigpen Holy shit that's broken.

@dyscostic 3 ай бұрын

@@g.u.959 Playing without Metal Blades more than halves the amount of fun playing the game as an experience. The game is as fun as it is because Metal Blade is one of the few times on the NES they made a boss special weapon that had utility and was efficient enough to use regularly. It'd be like if you insisted on no Yoshis because it trivializes Mario World. Maybe so but what's the point of playing that version at all

@NAP8X 3 ай бұрын

@@DMThigpenWow, I’ve never heard of that exploit but that’s awesome. I don’t know how necessary it is, considering how often enemies drop energy recharges but still cool.

@richglix 3 ай бұрын

Feel better Jeff, you're still a threat.

@knightdehumidifier 3 ай бұрын

Who needs the Summer Game Fest when we're festin' with the hottest bangers like Low G Man: The Low Gravity Man and Galaxy 5000: Racing in the 51st Century? And let's not get started with Dynowarz: The Destruction of Spondylous!

@furrymessiah 3 ай бұрын

SPONDEELOOS

@thaquothLP 2 ай бұрын

Don't forget the one and only Alfred n the Fettuc

@scottgamedev 3 ай бұрын

I'm barely a minute in, but: feel better soon, Jeff.

@JuicyPlayer 3 ай бұрын

I remember when Captain America fought in the swamps and distant mountains of Tampa.

@JosephTavano 3 ай бұрын

Holy crap the frequencies in your voice are insane right now. Your voice is so bassy it deserves its own backbeat. Hope you feel better man, but for now I'll just enjoy the bass.

@CielBlanche 3 ай бұрын

The NES Megamans did get stale, but X and X2 are classics for a good reason - it was such a refresh in terms of gameplay, style, soundtrack, character designs, etc. Every moment of those games is so iconic in a way that really comes to light when you see a thing like Terminal Montage's "Something About Megaman X" animation

@bertplus 3 ай бұрын

"The true nature of Mega Man is a mystery to all of us" -- Dr. Light is Space Geppeto, and he created his robot boy. It's a classic retelling.

@joshuagallua 2 ай бұрын

When Jeff would begin an insane quest to categorize all games in the past, there was a lot of comedy in watching a mortal crash against the impossibility of the task. Now that he's in cyberspace, with the lack of friction to slow him down.. he may actually do it. God save us all.

@AxelHunterTwitch 3 ай бұрын

Megaman 2 is one of those that’s become damned by its own praise, because it doesn’t seem like it could possibly be that good, but it lives up to everything put on its shoulders.

@digitaldemigod 3 ай бұрын

1:14:29 mmmm touch those kids…. Seriously what were they thinking when they wrote that? 😂

@foarfield 2 ай бұрын

So, you know how everything is a grift now? I just realized watching Robodemons, that's Color Dreams. That's the direction we're going towards.

@chillhopdrumz1862 2 ай бұрын

Banana chips are a highly under appreciated snack.

@Discospawn 3 ай бұрын

The story and cover art for Robodemons actually feels like it's an 8-bit version of Doom.

@flemishdog 3 ай бұрын

hear me out; Galaga: Robodemons of Death

@-neurasthenie- 3 ай бұрын

I know you're going through stuff but damn dude, your voice is up there in Mike Pondsmith territory and it's very ear pleasing

@gilvy12 2 ай бұрын

I literally said "what??" out loud at the news of a remastered version of PO'ed

@BrandonArnold0 3 ай бұрын

I knew this was going to go over well! Super Mario Bros. 3 was out the same year and these games had such artistic maturity compared to their predecessors, it would be several years before a breakthrough like that again.

@KiltsOhh 3 ай бұрын

Another Color Dreams banger, you love to see it

@DarkLadyMarie 3 ай бұрын

I grew up on MMX and MM as a kid and I just love the movement and rpg elements in the X games. The original MM games always felt too stiff so I never played them much. I will agree that the later X games are real rotten though

@takaroth 3 ай бұрын

the whiplash in quality between these games is apocalyptic

@GameThatTune 3 ай бұрын

I know its just so over said, but damn that Mega Man 2 soundtrack is just the best. As for the robot master designs, 1 did have cool designs, but you cant tell me Heat Man being a Zippo lighter isnt cool as hell. Wood Man being a tree trunk pretty neat too, and weird. A wooden robot, crazy! Just a game that lots of people love, and for good reason. Keep rockin Jeff, this series is just the best. Science Rules.

@MissAshley42 2 ай бұрын

As a long time Mega Man fan, Mega Man 2 is the favorite NES Mega Man of people who stopped after Mega Man 3. I'm not saying it's right or wrong; it's just something I've observed over the years.

@jamesshultz8769 3 ай бұрын

There are a handful of games on the NES that when you played them when they came out, you could tell that video games had just gotten way better, Mega Man 2 is one of those games.

@Tansut 3 ай бұрын

I'm really hoping The Science pulls through for Mega Man 3 when its time comes. The only thing 3 doesn't do better than 2, and even this point is arguable, is the music. It has more stages, you get to fight all the Mega Man 2 bosses again, AND the slide mechanic adds a movement option that makes maneuverability breezier. Plus Mega Man 3 doesn't have a Metal Blade-esque weapon that marginalizes enemies for the rest of the game and it doesn't have any whack-ass bosses like the Boobeam Trap, which you can automatically fail for not having enough ammo for a certain weapon. But even if that wasn't enough, 3 also introduces Proto Man. I contend it's a universal truth that introducing an antagonistic rival with a mysterious connection to your main character is cool as hell.

@LordHershebel 3 ай бұрын

Mega Man 2 is one of those games that's been over talked about but the hype is fucking real.

@MonotoneTim 3 ай бұрын

hi jeff, I appreciate you edit: I also agree about megaman 2’s ranking, you did the right thing.

@omegaeraser 3 ай бұрын

Megaman 2 OST is still probably my favorite of NES era and big contender for best ever.

@xtlm 3 ай бұрын

34:53 They have a Mega Man energy drink. It's made by G-Fuel and comes in two styles carbonated Can and dry Powder. I like it and it does taste blue. Should have one for whenever Mega Man 3 (4 or 5 or 6) is reviewed here!

@Squadaloo 3 ай бұрын

Honestly, when Mega Man 1 ranked as highly as it did, I had good feeling Mega Man 2 could go the distance since it's a massive improvement in every way. That's not to say Mega Man 1 is bad, it's just that 2 does it all better. Technically it does fall off with some rough level design in the fortress stages so it helped it to quit where Jeff did, but obviously nobody has the time to literally beat every game on the list to rank them.

@JosephTavano 3 ай бұрын

It's one of the few games I consider to be as perfect as a video game can be. I've been playing it regularly since 1988 and it's a joy every time. There was a time in my 20s I could consistently beat this game in 36:30. And that soundtrack. Better than most grammy winning artists.

@takaroth 3 ай бұрын

ahh finally robodemons. I rented that one as a child and... was baffled. Went back later with an emulator and recorded myself beating it but I guess I deleted the video for some reason. It's not actually that hard of a game TBH you just gotta abuse the rapid fire when you directly hit an enemy, its mostly about knowing the good routes thru the stages (when you get to ones that arent completely linear). Final boss is predictably satan or some version of him

@furrymessiah 3 ай бұрын

Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your SPONDEELOOS

@catbrainland 3 ай бұрын

Was trying to think of an analogy and arrived at Jeff's X trashing maybe feels like an original Star Trek fan trashing TNG based on commercials before it aired Also MM2 is Big Black, MMX is Shellac (RIP Albini) Or maybe Minor Threat / Fugazi ?

@JuiceJive Ай бұрын

I would assume this Tengen label Temple of Doom game is based on the Atari-made arcade game. I'm kind of surprised Jeff isn't familiar with that, and seemed lost.

@LordelX 3 ай бұрын

Scientifically, MegaMan 2 is the best game on the NES. Sorry, the science doesn’t lie.

@cybersub4693 3 ай бұрын

Loz tops it. I'm from the future.

@ItMeDwaeji 3 ай бұрын

2:37:02 for anyone wondering what Infinity Nikki is

@charlenemaximum 3 ай бұрын

Robodemons has incredible Action 52 energy

@RetroDrew 3 ай бұрын

Very curious to see how future MegaMan titles will place after this because all things considered, while MM2 is the most casual of the series, and I mean that it is the most palatable for new comers, it is not the best MegaMan game. It actually has quite a lot of flaws when stacked up against its successors. For me, 3 is the best on the NES, followed closely by 4. However, I do not expect 4 to come close to the top of the list. 3 on the other hand, derserves a spot near, or at the top, that is a near flawless title. Anyways, glad to see the Blue Bomber place so high, I loves me some Megaman

@Squadaloo 3 ай бұрын

Honestly when I replayed them all a few years ago, 2 and 6 were the standouts on NES to me. 3 and 4 had that "this is getting old" feeling slip in for me, 5 is just rough all around, but 6 felt more polished and added stuff like multiple routes and the Rush suits to spice things up again.

@jgrocketpup 3 ай бұрын

I had no idea that there was more than one version of NES Barbie until now. The one Jeff played had some annoyingly grating tracks! I remember a much more cozy theme song for levels 1 and 2. Apparently they brought people in to add more music in revisions.

@houdin654jeff 3 ай бұрын

And with that awesome soundtrack, we are one third of the way through the mainline Mega Man games to be ranked on this console. 21:51 that statement, with that deep voice, needs to be on someone’s soundboard.

@RonnieBarzel 3 ай бұрын

Damn, I so don’t envy having to place Mega Man 2 against Rygar, Super Mario Bros. and Bionic Commando. That’s just such rarified air.

@mattrg320 3 ай бұрын

Hey Jeff, you're a pillar of the scientific community and I think you're doing a great job.

@rockettorussia6557 3 ай бұрын

i thought it was cool when barbie killed the hatman while astral projecting

@maxmccann 3 ай бұрын

I came here for the Jeff Gerstmann, butt stayed for the Bubble Man. ... also, Isaac Hayes.

@Koalopoti 3 ай бұрын

For a moment I thought Megaman for DOS was being ranked, but then I realized that it was just the audio missing on my end. It's my bad for seeing an NES ranking video and clicking immiediately

@OrinLinwe 3 ай бұрын

"the enemies stay dead, just like in Dark Souls. You fly through space like shrimp Jesus, just like in Dark Souls."

@dyscostic 3 ай бұрын

This was Mega Man as it was meant to be. Items 1, 2, and 3 do the job you NEED them to, instead of existing just to be toyetic like Eddie, B.E.A.T., and Rush.

@vookatos 3 ай бұрын

Those kids belong in a museum

@Duckyofalarcon 3 ай бұрын

Where does the quote "I can't move" come from? I've heard you say it sometimes and it just makes me think of Lion-O saying it in an episode of thundercats my brothers and I have quoted for like 30 years.

@junibug6790 3 ай бұрын

"The Avengers" arcade game. "I...Can't Move" is something all the player-heroes say when they're defeated.

@devon4606 3 ай бұрын

Holy shit I'm from Glen Rock, I'm so sorry man

@devon4606 3 ай бұрын

We were also responsible for the Magic Fingers Vibrating Bed

@nanokostudios8302 3 ай бұрын

Mega man 2 ost is god tier.. curious to see where science places this one

@ladambell 3 ай бұрын

BAH GOD, THAT'S ROBODEMONS' MUSIC

@mikesmith1892 3 ай бұрын

It is 3 A.M. Eternal somewhere…

@benpierce9060 3 ай бұрын

An episode of contrasts

@Johnsonicv 3 ай бұрын

Aw yeah, been looking forward to this one

@stoutlager6325 3 ай бұрын

GOOD WOOD

@Supaslicer 3 ай бұрын

2 questions Is he still using a mister? Where can I get a copy of this list???

@trillian-g 3 ай бұрын

I'm actually shocked Mega Man 2 scored so high.

@neauxway 3 ай бұрын

Mega Man 2, it's Mega Man also.

@jkrycz 3 ай бұрын

Megaman 2 is preposterously good. It's the sweet spot between the Castlevania action commitment and the freedom of a Mario game, and it's got to be the best soundtrack on the system.

@jkrycz 3 ай бұрын

And looking at the rest of the list this is a totally valid #1.

@jkrycz 3 ай бұрын

And, might I add, Wood Man is a robot made out of wood that shoots leafs at you.

@hikaruk.981 3 ай бұрын

Can "Deep Radio Guy Voice" Jeff become a recurring thing?

@Red_Sutter 3 ай бұрын

MM 1-3 being the only good ones is certainly a take.

@travismcnasty4239 3 ай бұрын

Get well soon. Your larynx needs a vacation.

@WoollyMittens 2 ай бұрын

Wow, there's literally interstitial ads every 5 minutes. It'll take twice as long to watch like this. I may have to bail on this episode.

@daneofurexistence 3 ай бұрын

Wood Man’s stage music is an all-time game banger for me. Wait….Bubble-Lead ISN’T pronounced like the material, but like “leader”??!!

@Aeonfell 3 ай бұрын

Nooo, the bubbles are made of the metal lead, that's why they sink in water and hurt so much (my head canon at the time)

@daneofurexistence 3 ай бұрын

@@Aeonfell I buy into this canon

@Squadaloo 3 ай бұрын

Honestly this is the first I've ever heard of it said like "leader", I always assumed it was lead like led.

@daneofurexistence 3 ай бұрын

@@Squadaloo Same

@yellowmonkey6539 3 ай бұрын

new number one

@ronnykarlsson9470 3 ай бұрын

Dude sounds like Brad Shoemaker..

@Maxim726X 3 ай бұрын

Wait, what Yellow Devil exploit?? Would have saved me a lot of angst 30ish years ago.

@Squadaloo 3 ай бұрын

Use Elec Beam and as the projectile hits Yellow Devil, keep pausing and unpausing to advance frames. The game ignores the post-hit invincibility and you can hit it multiple times with one shot. I think it works on pretty much any boss, but is most useful for Yellow Devil because Yellow Devil.

@islatubular 3 ай бұрын

jeff they do make a mega man energy drink its a g fuel and its blue raspberry flavored (a la blue slurpee)

@MrTableDesk 3 ай бұрын

The audio appears to be missing

@Kenny-Blankenship 3 ай бұрын

It's fine for me. Weird things happen with the audio when you're really early to videos.

@MrTableDesk 3 ай бұрын

Yeah I think you're right, it seems fine now

@ED-yv5ms 3 ай бұрын

Wolfman Jack.

@Spirit0f 3 ай бұрын

The Level of Flesh

@christianwalker7308 3 ай бұрын

Track and Field with music by Vangelis??? are you joking my eyes out

@vizuz 3 ай бұрын

They licensed it iirc. So they did not just steal it

@xtlm 3 ай бұрын

How does a robot have hair?? Had you never seen TERMINATOR?

@steve43ful 3 ай бұрын

Is Mega Man the first annualized game franchise?

@dangrel 3 ай бұрын

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is a weird, bad game. Hard to believe there's so many other games that are worse than it, but the NES did have a lot of software released for it, much of which was not very good.

@darrnellnott07 3 ай бұрын

I find it hilarious Jeff is enduring the same affliction babies have in common with NES games: object permanence

@Deadtorights0710 3 ай бұрын

IT’S THREEEE DOG

@sydneymeanstreet 3 ай бұрын

Hey Jeff, hope you're feeling better soon. You'll need all the strength you can muster for BOTH the Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade games that somehow came out on the NES. One is shitty and Japanese, the other is shitty and British.

@dollerzz 3 ай бұрын

Desperate to hear Jeff say "BIG MUD" with this voice.

@Rascarrr 3 ай бұрын

playing megaman 2 on easy mode? c'mon jeff

@Jagerbomber 3 ай бұрын

Wasp the matter with you?

@ridge_r4cer 3 ай бұрын

I won't stand for Mega Man X slander.

@Ajbolt89 3 ай бұрын

That indiana jones game looks awful

@OmeteotI 3 ай бұрын

Oh my god, that Indiana Jones game has one of the worst, poorly implemented perspectives I've ever seen

@CassidyListon 3 ай бұрын

MM2 is good... but MM3 is the best overall. MM3 is better balanced; in MM2 they made Metal Man's weapon so OP it basically obsoletes everything else. In MM3, Shadow Man's weapon is basically the same but it rightfully got a range nerf. Plus the music is better.