Megadeth and Metallica are not even in the same ballpark…

[@RAWMUSICTV]

Megadeth - The Sick, The Dying...And The Dead! Order the new Megadeth album now: amzn.to/3OrNdm8 Obviously the records Megadeth put out in the 90s we're not Thrash. The point was they were better than Load and Reload. I don't think the world will end because I said "Thrash". Let's get some things straight shall we... 1. Not once in this video did I say Metallica wrote Mechanix. Nor did I say they wrote The Four Horseman. What I did say was, and I quote: "he [Dave] also decided to record his own version of The Four Horseman, a song that appeared on Metallica's first record" which is exactly what he did and exactly what happened. The Four Horseman and Mechanix, are quite literally by definition, different versions of the same song. Not once did I imply Metallica wrote either version of the song before Dave Mustaine. 2. I'm not sh**ing on Metallica, I literally produced an entire documentary dedicated to the band saying how incredible they are on this very channel. Did I say some negative things about them? Yes. That doesn't mean I think negatively about them as a band overall. Your interpretation of my words is your interpretation, not mine. 3. A lot of you are missing the point of the video and becoming over-emotional because you think I'm attacking a band you are passionate about. I'm not attacking Metallica, I still love that band and I state that fact in the video, but they are not even remotely comparable as Thrash bands anymore, that's the entire point of the video. And again, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just an observation. 4. Want to know why I produced this video? Over the last few years, I've had many a conversation with many people regarding music. One question that routinely appears is "Who is better, Megadeth or Metallica?" and I came to realise that you cannot compare these bands anymore within this context as they are now so different. Hence the title! 5. For the people that keep point out "Metallica came before Megadeth"; yes they did but are we forgetting that Dave Mustaine was literally in the first iteration of Metallica? It's highly conceivable that Mustaine had more of an influence on Metallica's early sound than James and Lars combined. Finally, I welcome civilised discussion. If you disagree with me, no problem, express your opinion. I have loved Metallica and Megadeth for a long time and I will continue to do so. I will also continue to express my opinion however I see fit. Stay Metal

[@truthhurts79]

I get it, but Lemmy, Raven and Venom thought kill em all was nothing more than motorhead on speed, and that it wasn't until ride the lightning that they respected them as a band with their own identity and sound... Mustaine has tried hard to achieve what Metallica has with going commercial like them but somehow didn't have the guitar riffs to compete with no more Mr Nice guy, bread line, in my darkest hour, sweating bullets against Metallica's one and black album which commercially are better songs imo. And mustaine admitted practically his entire career was chasing the dream of being bigger than Metallica but commercially he couldn't do it

[@johnthesecond19]

Grew up on thrash metal. Don’t listen to much post 2000 Metallica but Megadeth is still bringing the heat! Megadeth>

[@danh7447]

Megadeth=Better musicians then Metallica. Dave is a much better guitarist then Kirk and James. imagine Marty , and now Kiko. and i do like both bands, but man, Megadeth is so much harder to play. Better musicians and lyrics wise... both are great.

[@truthhurts79]

@@danh7447 yet all that great musicianship will never sell more records than Metallica and create a bigger legacy... You know why? The world doesn't gaf about how technical your music is, they want those perfect riffs instead... It's harder to write a great song than Play technical because technicality isn't selling records has much as that great 3 chord guitar riff, so it's harder to write a great song

[@truthhurts79]

@@johnthesecond19 I'm the opposite, don't listen to anything past the black album but don't listen to anything past peace sells... No more Mr Nice guy and his congested nose voice just no longer did it for me

[@nuldorvamoysenor2091]

Slayer is thrash's most consistent band. They released the same album like 9 times.

[@brandonryder5873]

No shit 😆

[@huguito8607]

hahahaha

[@sweynskarilsen9105]

🤣

[@marc3d]

gnorW

[@Mike-pz5pk]

Creatively, it's Not necessarily a Good Thing....

[@MSpotatoes]

When I started playing guitar, I learned Metallica songs first, because Megadeth was beyond my level.

[@ryanjohnson7563]

That part!

[@redseethus2872]

So true. Metallica is more basic, Megadeth is the master level stuff.

[@nikola5308]

@@redseethus2872 for what exactly

[@creamy925]

@@nikola5308 guitar

[@petergust3607]

I just said fuck it and dove right into killing is my buissness

[@raiospartaonick]

I Love both , but no one can play like Dave it's insane to play those riffs and sing att the same time , it has so much layers ...

[@jmongmon1100]

Try playing bass and singing. Lol.

[@JonnySublime]

Yeah, and please tell me what Hetfield does?

[@jsnippes62]

@@JonnySublimeyells yeeaaaah and down picks

[@JonnySublime]

@@jsnippes62 your brain is showing, luckily, I have a microscope

[@yesseru]

@@JonnySublime as a Metallica fan, i kinda have to agree, just 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 and "Yayeaaaheaaah!"

[@Keepler22b]

Metallica produced great music during the 80s. Mustaine is the true thrash king! Some insane riffs on the new singel

[@JacobBailey]

I agree. Megadeth is on their own level. Metallica really advanced the genre, but Megadeth has defined it.

[@jimihendrixx11]

Metallica is more mainstream - Megadeth quite a bit deeper and better musically.

[@Killerkarotte1]

@@jimihendrixx11 wow....mainstream. You seriously think you sound smart, don't you? 🤣

[@masterofreality5528]

​@@klaatubarada7556It amazes me how Metallica fanboys are bashing Megadeth. What are you 15?

[@samuelbanks7270]

Perfect example of what happens when a bad thing happens to a good person and carma does the rest 😊 you go Dave mustaine

[@Dimebag_Darrell420]

and Pantera killed everyone

[@kingc3521]

I started playing guitar 20 years ago because of Metallica but Dave's guitar playing blew my mind . Both are badass!!!!!

[@anthonysthellhammerg4388]

pretty much the same here cept i started two years ago

[@luisgordillo1695]

daves spider chords . wow. 🤘🤘

[@dcs4947]

Yeah, store credit at Wal-Mart

[@silentjay6132]

Yes !!

[@silentjay6132]

@@luisgordillo1695 he didn't invent those, contrary to his mouth, that's a classical guitar technique that people like Segovia, Tarrega, and Villa-Lobos have been using for like a hundred years. I still love Megadeth, it's just Dave's mouth that turns me off.

[@neozen777]

Dave may have lost the fight in the 80s but he has dominated the war since rip. I feel like Dave and Megadeth are starting to get the credit they have always deserved by people and critics.

[@audiosoil1]

Especially since metallica is getting increasingly stale while Dave has kept it real!

[@ladida1031]

I feel the Same Way.....it is Megadeths Time.

[@TheTenCentStory]

@@audiosoil1 both bands made multiple garbage albums in the 90s

[@audiosoil1]

@@TheTenCentStory boy you got that right. St anger...ClAnG!

[@RisTheGreat29]

@@audiosoil1 St. Anger wasn't even released in the 90s.

[@phewiss3066]

Like the metal god Rob Halford said "For consistency, Megadeth."

[@mr.smithgnrsmith7808]

Enough of that 🍉

[@johnp82]

For everything else, Metallica.

[@vishalnagaraj5343]

Ironic cause Priest wasn't consistent at all lmao

[@Whereyouatyo]

Too bad he can't say that about judas priest!! Nothing but crap since Screaming for Vengeance. But everything before. Fucking genius!!!! I guess he can say that up till then. Back to megadeth.... first two albums. Only good ones. The rest are so clean and polished and fake sounding. Metal should never sound light. I mean the productions. His sound of the band. Yes HIS sound of the band. Tinny... no balls. Whiney singing.. his high pitched gruff doesn't sound like it cuts through for metal imo... but it did for the first two albums... he was on fire back then. Pushed out two major classic metal albums.... mean sounding.. riffs were phenomenal... the band was killer playing their hearts out.. brutal playing... dirty sounding.... not so polished... all heart!!! After that....Just nice clean polished metal for the good kids . Lol. Metal for the jocks who think they know metal lol. Ugh. Berkley players band. To me... they were done after Peace Sells.... like Metallica after black album. But the black album was their defenders of the faith... you knew it was over .

[@planetmotherfuckers]

Frfr painkiller rips tho

[@jonathanmartin3767]

Sales: metallica. Songs that hold up decades after being released: Megadeth

[@StockA4]

Both bands have been a fixture in my life since the beginning, and I love them both. But as I've said before, (maybe somebody else said it, I suffer from CRS) Metallica makes music for people; their fans. It's well packaged and easy to digest. Whereas, Dave makes music for musicians. More layers than a lasagna.

[@fredriksvard2603]

The problem with music as a sport is you can't win. If megadeth's only claim to fame is virtuosity, that's sad because they have nothing on newer death metal and prog bands. Or even good youtubers making demo tracks.

[@JM00237]

@@fredriksvard2603well Megadeth is pretty complex but they’re are always gonna be better musicians, look at buckethead he’s incredible but not many people that don’t play guitar even know about him. It’s all subjective at the end of the day I just listen to what I like.

[@JM00237]

@@fredriksvard2603rust in peace has stood the test of time still, peace sells isn’t far behind and the demonic shredding on kimb was only hindered by the sound production, same with sfsgsw which is an awesome and unique metal album.

[@mude.mcmudskipper8907]

When i went to see Megadeth on the Peace Sells tour, I bought a pass to the after party, and had to whole band sign the back of my white Peace Sells tee that i had purchased that night. True Story.

[@Faolain_]

So you have Chris Poland and Gar Samuelson's signatures? That's amazing

[@mude.mcmudskipper8907]

@@Faolain_ I did, unfortunately the tee got traded for a Fender bass guitar a couple of years after the show.

[@H.E.M.]

@@mude.mcmudskipper8907 you traded a one of a kind shirt for a bass? Bruh

[@mude.mcmudskipper8907]

@@H.E.M. Yup. . . it was in 1988. It wasn't all that important to me. I was more stoked just to be at the party, plus I just would have sold it later down the road anyway. When Gar went to sign my friends shirt, he folded it up and signed it, upside-down and on the inside. Dick move, but a funny one. (my buddy didn't find it very funny.)

[@washworks7630]

I believe it they played a skating rink here in Pittsburgh for that tour

[@brianmauk5126]

That’s not necessarily true because the album, “Risk” was definitely a departure from Thrash Metal and was panned by many critics and fans alike. But overall, Megadeth have been more consistent in staying with their thrash roots.

[@midnight347]

They had several albums that weren't thrash starting with countdown then youth and cryptic then risk. The entire 90s except rust in peace was not thrash. Mechanix is faster but that doesn't mean better. I think it sounds like shit compared to the four horsemen.

[@RisTheGreat29]

@@midnight347 This right here is the actual truth. Megadeth wasn't blazing some thrash metal trail through the 90s. Anyone who thinks their albums were thrash metal in the 90s needs to listen to them again. And again. And again. And then go back and re-listen to their 80s material. There's a clear cut difference.

[@nemesis8626]

Yes but Dave was jeous of Metalicas success, he has said it himself and think logically, its after the success of the black album that all thrash bands changed up and tried to cash in on the success of that album

[@goldstein10493]

Megadeth is not getting any slower the older they get

[@azathoth0820]

If you think Countdown isn't thrash you don't know what thrash is. Other than Risk and Cryptic Writings all of the other Megadeth albums are definitely thrash.

[@Hero-For-Hire]

No denying the success and impact of Metallica. They've certainly turned out their share of awesome music but for my money the original version of Rust In Peace is the greatest thrash album ever produced

[@markandersen793]

I concur, the new Megadeth single: We'll Be Back would be right at home on Rust In Peace.

[@BubbaZen10]

For me it's peace sells

[@Mr-mopar]

Agree my favorite metal album of all time with holy wars as possibly the best metal song ever..The reason for me is you can put in rust right now and it hasn’t aged,it sounds epic from start to finish. I love metallica also but I truly don’t have an album of there’s that I can just listen to all the time..

[@harls7317]

What do you mean the original version? Is the remaster bad?

[@Vorticy135]

@@harls7317 they remixed it, they heavily the mids, destroyed the drum sound and re-recorded all the vocals, Take No Prisoners is easily the worst on thing about the remaster

[@tevetorbes456]

Dave has even sung songs over seas in the native language. That’s impressive for multiple reasons. Respect.

[@gunnerzane5230]

The best thing about Metallica is *Megadeth*

[@ehayes2006b]

Agreed. But aside from thrash, I personally thing that one of the other true greats in heavy metal is Iron Maiden

[@aaron.6923]

Both are equally as great , I grew up a die hard metallica fan , but I've learned to appreciate megadeth more and more .

[@godetonter4764]

@SkyNet General maybe Metallica should have given some credit to the bands that they stole songs from. Metallica and Led Zeppelin have stolen more material from other artists than anyone in the history of music.

[@godetonter4764]

@SkyNet General I am going to tell all the people I know to post more videos on plagiarism. It might even result in some settlements out of court . I certainly hope so , these multi millionaire corporate industry planted bands need to share some of their money with the people who actually earned it for them

[@godetonter4764]

@SkyNet General yes I totally agree. I like Metallica, but almost every band that's made it big seems to have stepped on the heads of smaller bands on their way up the ladder of success. It's almost like you can't get wealthy in this world without screwing someone over. Mustaine has stated in interviews that when James hears a riff and likes it he doesn't say let's do something similar, he says let's use it . Of course some of their music is original, it's just that they love to add as many bits and pieces of songs to their riff salad style

[@martinguedes9540]

@SkyNet General *Tapping Into The Emotional Void - Excel 1989 (Enter Sandman - Metallica 1991) *Go to Hell - Megadeth 1991 (Lyrics Enter Sandman - Metallica 10 days later 1991) *Recipe For Hate... Warhorse - Megadeth 2001 (Spit Out the Bone - Metallica 2016) *Princess of the night - Saxon 1981 (Seek and Destroy - Metallica 1983) *Darkness Descends - Dark Angel 1986 (One - Metallica 1988) *Snakes of Christ - Danzig 1989 (Thorn Within - Metallica 1996) *Set the Stage Alight - Weapon 1980 (Hit The Lights - Metallica 1983) *Die By His Hand - Exodus 1983 (Creeping Death - Metallica 1984) *Sleeps With Thunder - Metal Church 1999 (All Nightmare Long - Metallica 2008) *Over My Dead Body - Metal Church 1986 (Through The Never - Metallica 1991) * Green Grass and High Tides - Outlaws 1975 (Welcome Home Sanitarium - Metallica 1986) *Get Stoned - Stone 1988 (Enter Sandman - Metallica 1991) *Sucking My Love - Diamond Head 1982 (Seek and Destroy - Metallica 1983) *Dead Reckoning - Diamond Head 1982 (Seek and Destroy - Metallica 1983)

[@godetonter4764]

@SkyNet General I agree about Nirvana, but I haven't seen enough footage on the band to know whether their plagiarism was intentional or not. Considering that James Hetfield is one of the world's best rhythm guitar players it makes it a little more obvious that he knows exactly what he is really doing. Also the guys in Metallica all had huge album collections of underground Metal bands, and the majority of riffs have been lifted note for note from these obscure Metal bands. They did however incorporate a top 40 1970s hit song into Four Horsemen with Lynnerd Skynnerd - Suite Home Alabama. That probably opened the floodgates for internet nerds to research all Metallica songs.

[@chopskie117]

The Mechanix was originally written by Dave for Metallica, there's even recordings of it that exist on KZbin, with James on vocals

[@daveg4236]

We all know

[@Frank_nwobhm]

It was rewritten as The Four Horsemen so that Lars could get a writing credit for Dave's song. Metallica hasn't been worth a damn since they ran out of Dave's material.

[@knorkstea606]

@@Frank_nwobhm ...and justice for all!

[@bilrogar]

@@Frank_nwobhm That's what I'm screaming

[@Frank_nwobhm]

@@knorkstea606 That's a Metallica album that I almost never pull when I want to hear the band. The material is decent but largely unremarkable, and of course Lars destroyed it but removing the bass from the master tapes. I have a theory on Metallica. Look at the picture of the band on the sleeve. If James's forehead is covered by his hair, it's a great record. If you can see James's forehead because the hair is pulled back it probably sux. If his hair is cut short it really, really sux.

[@gibbynetto2557]

DAVE IS THE GOD OF THRASH METAL!

[@arthurdurham]

I was thinking about this lately and why Metallica has had more commerical and mainstream success than Megadeth. Putting aside specifics of the music to me it comes down to the general ethos of both bands. Metallica was always much more business oriented. Not taking away from their skill as they've made some fantastic music, but looking at their history you can see they were much more calculated to be successful than Megadeth. Look at the names. Metallica is marketably brilliant in how it completely sums up what they're all about but also doesn't pigeonhole themselves and isn't offensive to anyone. A name like Megadeth is a statement of purpose that would make parents gasp and anything veering from its implications can be off-putting to fans. You expect the loudest angriest music from a name like that. Metallica fired Dave for being too chaotic, the "heaviest band in the world" fired their guitarist for being too extreme. And they were incredibly professional and consistent in their endless touring. Even with alcoholism, death of Chris, and James being lit up on fire they barely missed a beat to play a great set for the fans for decades. Megadeth did tour a lot with some amazing shows and occasionally Dave would try to work with the biz but it's harder to maintain a consistent image, quality, and professionalism when you keep changing members with some constantly going in and out of rehab. And have even stated at a certain point they couldn't even perform well without shooting up. It didn't really seem like the business side of things was a focal point. Metallica is the more presentable image of metal while Megadeth is the reality of it (for better or worse with how much turmoil it caused). And before St Anger no one really knew how much dysfunction was behind the scenes of Metallica while with Megadeth's dysfunction was almost unintentionally part of the band's brand for awhile. Dave originally mostly only cared about the music with being as complex, loud, and fast as possible. He flubbed hard when really trying to be mainstream and only did it to attempt to one up Metallica. Metallica already understood what it takes to be mainstream and landed it with precision, while Dave just wasn't built for it; but he is perfect for the angst and aggression of thrash with the musical chops to back it up. And if we do get into the music, personally having tried to learn to play songs from both bands Metallica riffs and solos are generally simpler (once again not a bad thing) than Megadeth who have more virtuosity. It's easier to get and connect to a Metallica riff for the average listener (which I believe is by design), while Megadeth can take some time to appreciate bc of how complex it can be. So Metallica slated itself as being the metal band for everyone; catchy riffs that hit hard with a more pleasant voiced singer (which makes their ballads way more palatable esp on ballads, even though I personally like Dave's singing). While I always found Megadeth to be a musician's favorite band.

[@justjeff600]

Dude, that was probably the most articulate way i have ever read someone explain the difference between the two. Good job.

[@arthurdurham]

@@justjeff600 Thank you. Guess all that time obsessing over metal turned out to be useful 😅

[@leonsunu1209]

@@arthurdurham metal shall be living on bc of people like us If in Metallica or megadeth does not matter at the end of the day

[@brunofreitas9314]

That's a very good point, it's always fresh having someone that takes the time to articulate is opinion without go for "Metallica or Megadeth sucks". The points of the relation and the importance given to fans, the professionalism are very good points. Even in the tour that Metallica did with GnR everyone was talking about that, the difference between the two bands, specially James and Axl. And the voice as well, for me Dave's voice is a turning down, i just dont identify with it, in comparision the Hetfields 80's agressive, full of rage, but in the wright way is my all time favorite. But on the part of the simpler and easy to listen songs or complex ones, i kind of see it other way, specially untill the Black Album. I dont think Ride, Master or Justice where simpler albuns. What i see , and just an opinion, is that Metallica songs are in general better built. If you pick Holly Wars and Master, and isolate, just the riffs, just the solo, both amazing, but the structure of the songs, the melodical parts, the interludes (for me the writting and deliver by the singer), when you join all elements, sounds fluid and interesting in Metallica, and sometimes, in some Mega songs seemed like the riffs and solos where throwned to the song and theres not much connection. He has writtes an super fast solo, hard to play, but that doesnt seems to be oart of the same song. I think that Dave needed (he would hate this) to have someone like Lars (and having spent more time with Cliff and all the more classical and inovative stuff he brought) with him, not only because the business oriented mind, but also to make it different when piecing up a song. But i loved your view on it, sorry for my english. Cheers.

[@arthurdurham]

@@brunofreitas9314 Thank you! And that's a great point as well. Just look at "Four Horsemen" vs "The Machanix". Metallica's version is better (if you're judging by being more discernably memorable) structured on the same song that Dave wrote. I think you're right they had a better ear for structure which makes them more palatable for the mainstream. Dave's is faster and looser. And Jame's voice is just more pleasant, he's a good singer while Dave just fits his music but not someone I'd choose to be singer in any other circumstance. Dave and crew were much more chaotic musically than Metallica. But I do think Rust and Countdown made that much better with the addition of Marty. But like in my post I believe Dave's goal even when "selling out" what to have more wildness to the music and when he tried differently didn't have it in him like Metallica. And he didn't have the consistent line up of original members for decades to perfect the structure. It was usually Dave with and the bassist with a rolling cast of other collaborators. It goes back to the mindset behind both bands. That Metallica were for lack of a better term, the pop boy bands of metal. But knowing how to toe the line before becoming too mainstream, until the 90s when that became more important. I don't think either is better, even though I vastly prefer Megadeth personally. Just different skillets

[@Falcon-jv4he]

I had the honor of meeting Dave mustaine one time in New Hampshire at the Verizon center in manchester. I was taking my son to see his very first concert and of course it was Megadeth when I had the opportunity to run past the guards and the security with my son to be the last person in line to get to have an autographed copy of the greatest hits album by the lineup at the time. And get to meet Dave mustaine himself. Absolute great guy. Talk to him for a few minutes because I was the last one. The rest of the band was fantastic they did just about everything but come out and line up for a picture for me and my kid. My son was very impressed. Then we went to go see the concert. And he was floored. That was probably one of the greatest moments of my life right there next to meeting Ozzy osbourne. Merry Christmas to everyone out there.

[@MOHAMMED-zv8rv]

Megadeth is the best thrash band ever with the best metal record oat and Dave is sure an icon

[@truthhurts79]

Megadeth isn't thrash anymore, they're heavy metal

[@willpoirier8880]

No?

[@thesabbath483]

@@truthhurts79 They have always been thrash...

[@truthhurts79]

@@thesabbath483 it's obvious you don't know what organic Thrash is... No more Mr Nice guy is bubble gum metal, sweating bullets hello me meet the real me is definitely not thrash... Mary Jane, 502, and the new album definitely isn't thrash... Risk breadline sounds like nickel back 🤣😂 I suggest you listen to Exodus bonded by blood,anthrax spreading the disease and among the living, Overkill feel the fire and taking over, Forbidden forbidden evil,all of slayers albums and the 1st 4 Metallica albums if you wanna know what TRUE thrash sounds like

[@thesabbath483]

@@truthhurts79 All the bands you listed I already listened to. I perfectly know what thrash is, you obviously don't. There's no such thing as ," oRgAnIc tHRaSh ". You don't need to play fast, or even mid-tempo, to play thrash. Thrash is about violence, agression, threatening, all these feelings you can feel in slow/mid-tempo thrash. Listen to the intro to Jesus Saves by Slayer, or The Right to Go Insane, by Megadeth, for example.

[@frankh.5942]

I’d like to engage a subdebate on this topic: Kirk is a good guitar player, but Dave, Kiko, Marty, and Chris are all GREAT guitar players. Other commenters, I want hear what you have to say on this! But here are some of my arguments as to why I think Kirk is only a “good” guitarist: -Some tracks on Kill ‘Em All had to be slowed down because Kirk couldn’t play Dave’s leads fast enough to keep up with the originally intended recording speed. -Kirk had some great solos from Ride the Lightning through And Justice for All, but I’ve always quietly wondered how much of that was Cliff (the music theory guru in Metallica) helping Kirk develop as a lead player behind the scenes. [Even though he was deceased before it was recorded, Cliff had writing credits on some stuff on AJFA. He was, therefore, involved with composing its tracks to some extent.] -Suddenly on the Black Album, Kirk gets lazy. Bob Rock consistently has to push Kirk to think outside the box, use more than just a handful of the same old scales to craft his solos, and actually PRACTICE before he comes in to record. -No remarkable leads from Load or Reload. No solos at all on St. Anger (YIKES). -Cue the wah pedal, which has become synonymous with Kirk’s name and brand. Plenty of that all over his solos on Death Magnetic and Hardwired, which had some decent leads, but they were by no means on par with what Kirk was doing in the 80s. -Add in the increasing number of live performances where Kirk can’t hit the notes on his old solos. -Oh, and lest we forget the “I had 200 new riffs recorded on my iPhone to contribute to upcoming albums, but I left the phone in a taxi cab, and it was stolen” story Kirk told a few years ago. -Finish with Kirk’s recent solo release Portals, which was the most middle-of-the-road set of instrumentals I think I’ve ever heard. Conclusion: Kirk is a good lead player, but not a great one. Less likely because of a talent deficit, and more likely (I think) because he isn’t self-motivated to push the boundaries and write innovative leads the way Dave, Kiko, Marty, and Chris all are. Chris was know for infusing jazz scales into his Megadeth leads; he was a prolific jazz guitarist before joining Megadeth. Marty needs no introduction; he has been known to fuse Eastern, Western, and neoclassical styles in his leads on his solo albums and Megadeth contributions. Kiko is a talented technical player and, like Chris, incorporates elements of jazz fusion into his Megadeth playing. And Dave, well, is Dave. The guy can shred. Kirk, meanwhile, was a guy who was in the right place at the right time to get picked up by Metallica because Dave couldn’t control himself. He’s no Cliff, and he’s no Dave, but he’s made it this far with Metallica because he’s a good guitar player, and his personality is the PERFECT fit for the band. Kirk’s laid back, go with the flow, and gentle demeanor is the ideal counterbalance to James and Lars’ aggression (often aimed at each other). Add Dave in there, and that was just way too much combustibility in one band for it ever to succeed.

[@emmanuelcalderon1982]

You can say the same about Lars. If you believe what people say, he was about to get fired when Cliff died. His live performances up until the early 90's were great, but he's never been a dynamic drummer. Since then it feels like he lost ambition to improve or even maintain his skill and you can see this in all the Lars fail videos all over KZbin. He's just become a meme at this point.

[@frankh.5942]

@@emmanuelcalderon1982 I would absolutely say the same about Lars! He just seems to have some sort of immunity to being ejected from the band despite his subpar drumming skills. Imagine if, in late 1982, James had kicked Lars out and kept Dave in the band (after sending him to rehab and saying “if you don’t get clean, you’re out”). Dave comes out in spring ‘83, just in time to record on KEA, and holy moly would we have had one heck of a metal record there…

[@robleeming4815]

On Kirk's ability as a guitarist, there was a lot of talk on how good Hardwired... Was on its release, but when I listened to the first four/five tracks, I felt I'd heard Kirk's solos before, and it wasn't until I listened to Load again, that it seemed he'd simply lifted some of the solo's from Load, and stuck them on the album Hardwired...

[@ivanhoejo9949]

You said IT, but not nearly enough accolades about Dave and Marty! Haha! Take care and God Rules!

[@oncaaxe8225]

Megadeth is more talented musically simple

[@papai9698]

absolutely, Megadeth is miles ahead musically and technically. a real band with real musicians who actually know how to play their instruments at top level.

[@johnpaulcalixtolerias9351]

You can choose, but never compare.

[@Metallizombie]

Countdown To Extinction, Youthanasia, Cryptic Writings, Risk, and Super Collider aren’t thrash records either. Dave was early chasing Metallica’s commercial success on the 90’s post rust in peace records. He certainly re-embraced his thrash roots sooner than Metallica though.

[@Metallizombie]

Also for the record let me say I love those records (other than Super Collider).

[@fsrsaa]

Al of those outside of risk were more thrash than anything Metallica put out since the black album though. On the whole Metallica’s albums are less heavy and less thrashy than Megadeth’s by a long shot. I loved all of Metallica’s albums up to and including the black album after that I liked some but didn’t love any.

[@RisTheGreat29]

@@fsrsaa No, they weren't "more thrash" than Metallica's output. If you like them more, that's great. But there's nothing thrashy about Cryptic Writings, Youthanasia, etc. Those aren't thrash albums. For every faster riff on a Megadeth album, there's a slow, rockier song like Train of Consequences, A Secret Place, Have Cool, Will Travel, etc. If we're going to go by that standard, then Metallica still had thrash songs on Load/Reload. Might as well call Fuel and Wasting My Hate thrash metal at that point.

[@fsrsaa]

@@RisTheGreat29 yes they were, disagree. Train wasn’t a super fast song but it was heavier than the rock sound of load and reload. So was victory and reckoning day. I guess the definition of thrash is up to debate though.

[@TheJTcreate]

Countdown is still very Thrash and doesn't belong on your list. I agree on Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings.

[@d34dj3d1]

Yea you're right megadeth and metallica aren't in the same ballpark, Megadeth is now and always has been a better band on every level

[@travispitchfork3005]

All hail the true father and torch protector an original he never stopped cut his hair or sold out. Cheers to Dave My metal brothers

[@Sillyboi05]

Didn't sell out? Go listen to "Breadline" by Megadeth

[@jaxonspage]

@@Sillyboi05I really like Megadeth but that album just sounds weak

[@nomojo1110]

When you're right, you're right. Dave lost a battle but won the war. All hail MegadavE 🤘

[@MrZyphose]

I've been saying this for years. Thank you! I whole hearted agree. No comparison with Metallica. Megadeth is the greatest thrash metal band ever ..

[@dwaynetherockjohnson2024]

SLAYER \m/

[@Nonon471]

Metallica is literally way more successful.

[@rusherdasher8826]

When it comes to money, despite having so many more albums, megadeth L

[@ramon2008]

Agree. Greatest “thrash” band. With Metallica being the greatest band ever.

[@Sweedurbex]

@@Nonon471yeah because their music in comparison to megadeth is so much more mainstream and basic just because they sell more records doesn’t at all mean they are better Metallica is just not very good anymore

[@iancreswell4921]

There is no reason to diss either band or the people in them, both have really good albums and really talented/influential musicians. They are all legends. Both can still be awesome without one being better.

[@lunchb0x1986]

That's the conclusion of vid dude. Glad you watched the whole things hahah

[@krod4278]

@SkyNet General are you talking about the "masters of plagiarism" video?

[@krod4278]

@SkyNet General I don't see it

[@huguito8607]

That´s true. But it´s obvious that Megadeth is better. Not hating Metallica tho.

[@Mike-nq1rt]

Everything after the black album sucks ass!!!

[@1wretchedsoul]

Metallica is Mega-Dave’s ex wife…. I love Metallica up to Justice, even though it STILL needs a professional to mix it, but Megadeth is still the thrash I crave!

[@mattball420]

Dave mustaine is mozzart/beethoven/chopan tier as a musical figure

[@samuelbanks7270]

Nice bro I couldn't agree more with you Mozart but you can't forget about his tremendous ❤

[@ocpofficialrep7026]

Megadeth are not in the same ball park as metallica regarding fame and mainstream success. Metallica is not in the same ball park as megadeth regarding musicianship and talent

[@maidenshazza]

Testament anyone??? Probably the greatest Thrash metal vocalist ever, yet somehow this band always get overlooked when the best bands from that genre are mentioned.

[@EkhoProductions]

I totally agree with this assessment! Megadeth's technicality and skill has ALWAYS surpassed that of Metallica.

[@SunBane67]

@@swampcrypt Following music theory there is way more beauty in the chords and melodies of megadeth songs over metallica, So I'd say they win that as well.

[@meteorman6167]

Megadeth is the thinking man’s Metallica

[@didakeepa]

Megadeth is having explosive sex than doing the same shit for 30 years, which eventually brcomes stale

[@crashcarter5150]

I agree. Even Eddie Trunk said himself, "Megadeth has a much better total body of work/discography than Metallica" and I totally like both! But it is what it is...

[@RGK93]

You write like Eddie Trunk is some kind of authority in Heavy Metal, he's not even a musician. XD

[@crashcarter5150]

@@RGK93 He's sure not. But he's more involved in the industry and more knowledgeable of it than you I don't dare to say.

[@alkohallick2901]

Eddie Trunk sucks.

[@jewel_throne2950]

@@crashcarter5150Well it appears he’s a moron because Deth only has two albums worth giving a shit about. The other ones are for megaponies who listen to cope for the sake of it.

[@kennethenright813]

Eddie Trunk is a douchebag. Megadeth and Dave are beyond the best thrash band ever.

[@Holychickendestroyer]

I agree. Many Metallica fanboys will be butt hurt but someone had to say it.

[@andregreen77]

Yet MetallicA is more relevant worldwide than Megadeath.

[@max_NS]

Absolute facts. James Hetfield knows deep down he is the inferior talent

[@imagereflection4826]

Dave wishes he was James

[@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965]

This guy could narrate a stamp collection documentary and make it sound cool😂

[@tuhwhat1663]

2:46 had me howling with laughter, just the delivery and the randomness of the analogy was perfect

[@niksmusic1307]

I don’t care what anybody says but Dave wrote metallicas first two albums and without them they wouldn’t be as popular

[@tonysoto8949]

100% Agree. I like most grew up Metalica fans and we honestly hated Megadeth because Dave was kicked out so as fans we didn’t even give him a chance. Then I attended a New Years party in the Hollywood Hills and they had metal playing but I didn’t know who the band was but I was blown away by the sick guitar work in the song which wound up being Holy Wars, then another song played and another so I asked the dude throwing the party who that was. He said dude are you serious that’s Megadeth. I was like fucken shit seriously. And he said yea but just don’t ask for Metalica songs. He was playing the Rust in Peace album. We partied for 3 days and when I was leaving my friend grabbed me and gave me the Rust in Peace CD and the rest was history. This was back in 1997 on new years. For years I was missing out because we thought we was supposed to hate Megadeth.

[@ivanhoejo9949]

I know, right? This is the premise of most Mewtallica fans. They were hooked, and are fine with cliche riffs and message, after Justice fer all.... Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman and Michael Sweet inspired me to play guitar, metal at that.

[@key2theuniverse713]

There's one major difference between the two. Megadeth is an enthusiast band, anyone outside of the metal scene doesn't know about them period. Metallica is a mainstream band, and has been since the 90s and they are more mainstream today than they ever have been. Metalheads respect Mustane due to his incredible talent and love for metal. Whereas we hate Metallica for becoming the exact opposite of what metal (and punk respectively) promotes. It's music that goes against mainstream media so for Metallica to become what they were once against really says it all....

[@silentgnome]

Stupids metalhead hate Metallica. Even the other bands from SF (Slayer, Testament and even Megadeth) respect Metallica.

[@OriginalKingRichTv]

We're no punks tho. We're metalheads for the music and Metallica's reload and St anger was terrible yes but Metallica, load, death magnetic and hardwired is albums that are solid works of metal. Load is more traditional metal. Hardwired and death magnetic is closer to death metal mixed with power metal. Metallica always been a power metal band don't let the first 3 albums confuse you.

[@spiritinblack370]

@@OriginalKingRichTv St.Anger is a great album much heavier than all that Megadeth did.Do you know what power metal is at all? Metallica didn`t play power metal ever.

[@marmota7615]

@@spiritinblack370 I don't think Metallica is power metal, but Kill 'Em All was labeled as power metal in the 80s

[@philipflores2515]

Metallica is mainstream because they’re simply better. Megadeth has like three good songs. Mustaine’s voice is hard to listen to. Also how many band members has Dave gone through? The mainstream wanted Metallica because they have better songs. Metallica is also true artists, they knew they could just keep making the same shit for fans and that would be selling out. Metallica wanted to expand their music and grow

[@Kapricorn.Musick]

This comment section basically proves my theory that 95% of the people who think Megadeth is better than Metallica are guitar players.

[@giorgipiorgi]

And therefore have musical insight

[@alexanderball6326]

Guitar nerds, not players lol

[@TheHumanBurger]

Still smarter than Metallica fans

[@alexanderball6326]

@@TheHumanBurger why? Cause Dave writes cheese cringe lyrics about the government?

[@lucasoheyze4597]

I'm a guitarist and I think they both suck.

[@hawkermustang]

Metallica is heavy metal and Megadeth is thrash

[@antoniocenteno1483]

Both are Heavy Metal, what defines "Thrash" is not present in either band a much as people likes to belive, and that i fine, both band are way better than the ret of the competition, i about making good muic, not the genre

[@aarontwitchell7166]

Metallica is hard rock maybe megadeth is metal

[@daltonmerrill9070]

@@aarontwitchell7166 what??

[@disjointedhoudini808]

what a take, yikes

[@MrProfchaos71]

But both started out thrash. One kept their integrity and is still making good thrash music today. The other is a bunch of sensitive baby’s now that had to go to therapy and made a movie about their drama.

[@Nunya442]

Ever since rust in peace, metallica was in the rearview. One of the absolute best metal albums of all time. Megadeth kicks ass. One of my first shows ever was cryptic writings in 97. Got to meet Dave and the rest of the band. What a great time and a bunch of cool down to earth guys. Long live Dave and the deth!

[@obscuraapit]

Couldn't agree with you more. Still there'll always be some who'd disagree. But the truth is that they just can't separate the talent from the person.

[@yellowdog2181]

Growing up in the the 80s listening to the hair metal but when I got peace sells , I knew it was the band for me . Though I lost track of them in the 90s , I recently started again with all metal around 2017 , I can’t believe I missed out on all these years

[@HipHopAn0n]

I prefer Metallica's discography But Rust in Peace and Peace Sells are just absolutely nuts. Rust In Peace might be the Greatest display of badass Guitar Work ever

[@johnp82]

If "better" means which band has better musicians, then Megadeth is better. But if you know that's not everything, then you realize Metallica's best albums are better than Megadeth's best albums. They just are. Rust In Peace is an impressive collection of riffs and performances, but Master Of Puppets and ...And Justice For All just have better songs. They also have much better vocals. It's just more appealing music. And even though Megadeth is consistently more thrash, Metallica gets points for not giving a fuck what people think and making records that they want to hear, not what other people want to hear. Dave has been in Metallica's footprints since day one. Just about everything he's done has been a reaction to Metallica. And as far as individual skill goes, Metallica at least gets points for being a more organic band. Hetfield could've fired everyone and hire the best possible musicians out there (like Dave has done 18 times) but he didn't. Also, don't try to say Dave was more influential on Metallicas sound than James and Lars combined. That's rediculous. He has 4 writing credits out of 10 songs on Kill 'Em All. Some of those aren't even complete songs. I'm not saying Dave wasn't an integral part of the band, but he was absolutely no more integral than the other 3 guys. Even Dave himself recently said that if he wasn't there, they could've gotten another guitarist as good as him and they would've been fine.

[@russellward4624]

Complelty disagree. Rust in peace is far better than any Metallica album. Metallic made 3 good albums. Megadeth made at least 6.

[@johnp82]

@@russellward4624 it's far better if your only criteria for judging metal records is technical ability and virtuosity. Also if you think Metallica only has 3 good albums you're insane. Did you even read my comment?

[@jimmy3x216]

Based on the title, I thought for sure this vid was going to be about Metallica… but you said it right, no comparison when talking about thrash. Overall though, Metallica has them by a mile

[@drewrosecrans9728]

Old school Metallica ruled from my Day Megadeth has hand's down!!! Surpassed them!!!

[@gypsylynn45]

Thank you for this! I have been trying and failing to say this to metallica fans that persist on saying metallica is the best thrash metal band… they haven’t been thrash for over 30 years. I don’t think they even listen to thrash anymore. I saw a reaction from Kirk and he looked like his brain was gonna explode. Dave’s ability to shred is far beyond what most guitarist can do that are half his age.

[@jakebergen1837]

I agree with everything besides that last sentence. As far as technical styles go, newer artists are playing way crazier shit than Dave, but they owe it all to the influence from guys before them like dave.

[@gstar7686]

Sorry, but "Countdown To Extinction" and "Youthanasia" were way more commercial than Megadeth's previous albums. "Risk" is not thrash either. "Super Collider" was pretty commercial as well.

[@RazielXSR]

Pooper Collider should not be considered Megadeth. Easily the worst album in their arsenal.

[@Law-Enduring-Citizen]

Someone told me once : imagine Metallica trying to cover a Megadeth song vs Megadeth covering a Metallica song. I love Metallica but Lars is dragging their live shows down at an exponential rate. The guy cannot keep the meter at all. Rob has the hardest job on the planet as a bassist. Megadeth is solid as fucking rock

[@RGK93]

Holy shit will all these Millenials obsessed with "perfect tempo" playing to a click. Great drummers like Stewart copeland and Nicko McBrain don't play to a click, don't have perfect tempo and nobody dares to call them bad drummers, is only wrong if Lars does it...

[@MrMetalhorse]

@@RGK93 No one is asking for perfection. The shit that not only Lars but also kirk do live is embarrassing. Absolutely awful performances. Your average drummer enthusiast or guitarist would do a better job.

[@RGK93]

@@MrMetalhorse People overreacting as usual. Sure they weren't great live from 2003 to 2007 but they've recovered since then, watch any recent video of them. Regards

[@brunofreitas9314]

Merallica where and are, live, miles and miles better than Megadeath.

[@ayoissac]

@@MrMetalhorse lol why should they keep playing like they're in their 20s? Your average drummer/guitarist enthusiast wouldn't even play the arenas & stadiums Metallica does cuz they'd be too scared & fuck up

[@danielgray2909]

OK, OK, we get it you’ve chosen a side

[@johngulotta7951]

They said Metallica sold out. And Metallica said yeah we sell out every night

[@franckauger9490]

I was a total fan of the 3 first METALLICA LP. Several years after, I discovered MEGADETH and to be honest, I find their stuff more technical, melodic and the 16 LP are more consistant. Mustaine, Poland, Friedman, Kiko, Ellefson, Verbeuren ... They're all top musicians. Mustaine, fears nobody and choose the best players for his band ! Verbeuren is a top drummer and Lars is .... ??? And Mustaine can compete with Hetfield and crash Kirk (and I appreciate him a lot) !

[@fredriksvard2603]

Why not go straight from metallica to suffocation, animals as leaders, periphery, meshuggah etc though.

[@StevePhillips76]

Rust in peace all holds as a favorite to listen to from beginning to end.

[@deadinsidemcgee411]

Megadeth has been phoning it in since 1994 dude, their sound has been the same. What do you mean Dave has been consistently pioneering.

[@DeweyJHall1]

"Released thrash albums all thru the 90's" No, those weren't thrash. Megadeth toned it down also, just like every other metal band from the 80's. Just because it's thrash doesn't mean it's good, either

[@RGK93]

Metallica and Megadeth ABSOLUTELY are in the same ballpark (ok maybe not technically, but here's why): THEY HAVE ALMOST THE SAME CAREER: 4 great thrash/heavy albums? Check A great more radio friendly album? check An alternative rock album mid 90's? check Back to their roots in 2008? Check Whether Dave wants to admit it or not, he's always been aware of what Metallica is doing. Insufferable Megadeth fans love to parrot "mEtaLLiCa SoLd oUt", but by that criteria Megadeth did too (and there's nothing wrong with trying something different). They are both great bands who aren't even at odds anymore.

[@deletedhero5579]

Finally haha. They've literally had the same career the ONLY difference is Metallica broke the mainstream and megadeth tried and didn't succeed as well

[@Lastshogunx]

the megadeth glazing is crazy

[@puffybuns2311]

Dave is thrash! There is no other way about it! Marty Friedman once said “Dave Mustaine is heavy metal”! This dude’s style has been copied by all the other bands but there is only one and only “The original”, Dave ‘the king of thrash’ Mustaine.

[@redrick8900]

People copy Hetfield, not Mustaine.

[@puffybuns2311]

@@redrick8900 Hetfield copied Mustaine

[@puffybuns2311]

@@redrick8900 The impact of Dave’s playing is till Master of puppets! Just let that sync in.

[@redrick8900]

@@puffybuns2311 Sink into what, the pit of stupid BS you've said?

[@puffybuns2311]

@@Spector06111 Agreed kirk fits Metallica! Kirk is a fantastic,creative player who wrote some of the most memorable solos in Metal. Although nowadays his playing is just so cringy!

[@hagarfarouq]

Dave should definitely take credit for his work in kill em all but metallica would 100% have made it without his influence.

[@sagetim]

When I first discovered Metallica in the late 80's I was like "This IS Great!!!".... Then I discovered Megadeth and was like "WoW, This is better". I've always been a bigger Megadeth fan than Metallica but I play guitar more like Metallica than Megadeth.... skills I say

[@leonohs]

the guys who recorded Kill Them All are still there (except Cliff)….Megadeth is Mustaine and 3 other musicians for hire…not a band (Ask Kiko)

[@STORMseries]

Megadeth could never change. Metallica is a better band simple.

[@Cazz8203]

Why does it matter? Metallica does their thing. Megadeth does theirs. Only one has a member spending his career whining about the other. I'm just glad both exist.

[@TheTektronik]

Consistency is the key that's why Megadeth is what it is today.

[@joshdieckmann595]

There are parallels to be drawn with Megadeth and Metallica in the 90's, though. They both more aggressively pursued a more commercial sound. Obviously Megadeth followed Metallica's footsteps with "Countdown To Extinction" in many ways, and went further commercial with the 3 subsequent albums, with "Risk" being arguably more commercially focused than either "Load" or "ReLoad" in many ways. Starting with "The World Needs A Hero" in 2001, however, the band has made a more concerted effort to blend their thrash roots with the more commercial leanings of "Countdown" or "Youthanasia" (both awesome records) for a sound that is a good pastiche of their overall sound, while Metallica post-Load has been on a mission trying to find their sound again, which they've arguably done with "Death Magnetic" forward, in a similar fashion where they're bringing in older thrash elements and combining that with a more groove-oriented sound they started with the Load/ReLoad pairing, and emphasizing more hard rock arrangements and song structures, whereas Dave and company flex a bit more of that thrash muscle, particularly on records like "United Abominations" or "Dystopia", for example. So while I don't think the 2 bands sound that similar now, and even in the 90's their styles diverged somewhat, it's hard to argue that they didn't take similar paths in terms of vying for commercial appeal, and softening their sound to a degree to broaden their appeal, and never quite returning to the sound that started them out in the first place.

[@Guitar387]

I think megadeth are much better musically.

[@lilyyy1137]

idc if megadeth is better, i prefer metallica and kirk is a great guitarist

[@juggernautnation369]

You know I'm pretty convinced that Dave was the member in Metallica that created the whole Speed Metal/Thrash Metal idea in the first place.

[@johnp82]

🤔

[@Ando2k10]

Considering how many songs that Metallica had to give Dave writing credits on, because they kept using his riffs, I would agree.

[@johnp82]

@@Ando2k10 really? He had 6 writing credits out of 18 songs. Some of those credits weren't even for complete songs.

[@wesbates1143]

You are 100% correct. Without Dave Metallica would have been a blip on the radar at best. Dave may only have 6 credits but they are some of the biggest songs of their early career and he shaped the sound

[@johnp82]

@@wesbates1143 that's rediculous. James (along with Lars) wrote most of Kill Em All. The songs they wrote by themselves were groundbreaking thrash in their own right, and they were perfectly capable of writing a couple more songs if they had to. They were determined from day 1 to make it big and Lars had the drive and connections to make it happen. Even Dave said himself that they could've gotten a lead guitarist as good as him and they would've been fine.

[@MorbidThrasher666]

Megadeth rulez for life!

[@ashandsnow1873]

Perfectly articulated. Thank you for this!

[@Kubakaiser]

People will say they prefer Megadeth just because they're afraid that liking Metallica better will make them casuals.

[@PhantomDeth]

Maybe we just like Megadeth more and think Metallica hasn't made a good album since 1988... Crazy right.. Its like Metallica are irrelevant for the vast majority of us. Megadeth are the Thrash Kings.. Period.. Metallica stopped competing and lost their touch with it.. Megadeth never did.. Even when they experimented the Megadeth sound wasn't lost.. Metallica lost their sound in 1991 and it just got worse with each release.. Listen to this video with an objective view... Not a fanboy one.. The video is filled with raw facts for the most of us. Mustaine won the war.. Metallicas winning of the battle in 1983-1988 means nothing when the war was a long term career spanning thing... Mustaine stuck to his vision and goal.. Be the biggest badest Thrash band in the world.. Mission achieved.. Metallica had that goal to.. But they gave it up to chase radio arena rock.. Sure being bigger is something.. But it means nothing if your career is largely void of good music... When Mustaines from start to this day is filled with masterpieces and genre defining work... Megadeths latest album is probably the best Thrash album released in over 30 years.. Not since the early 90s have we had an album so well constructed and top to bottom excellent.. Megadeth had many great albums top to bottom.. But their latest album I think is their strongest since Countdown.. I personally think its better than Countdown.. To produce an album that is in the top 3 of their entire career at this point in their career is unheard of for any artist... And Mustaine isn't done.. He knows he's on top now and he is going to continue to enjoy his victory over his past band.

[@imagereflection4826]

Megadeth fans are just the loudest in the room as they have a hugely inherited inferiory comlex, they pretend Dave wrote their favourite Metallica songs, they pretend Megadeth have stayed true to thrash and never sold out, pretend Metallica have become irrelevant when their still the biggest metal band in the world and megadeth are an opening act, pretend Dave isn't just resting on his laurels for the last 20 years Truth is Metallica were always a bigger and stronger band than Megadeth which is why Dave pines to be back in the band. Most Metallica fans like megadeth but know there fans are a joke.

[@beezysbeatz4924]

Lars sucked at tennis, but he sucked at drums too and that kinda worked out for him. It doesn't matter which band you favor, we should all be thankful Metallica and Dave parted ways. Their rivalry gave us the best thrash metal/heavy metal music ever. Both bands deserve to be in the RHoF.

[@evigklytteren]

Dave wrote Mechanix! It was his creation! Metallica put it on Kill Em All without Daves blessing...

[@tonygunk86]

He got his credit, look at the liner notes

[@deangoings]

they changed the lyrics and slowed it down because it sounded like crap. that's reality. plus Dave CO WRITE it

[@rmv9194]

Mechanix is way better. All the way

[@WelshBladerDad]

Dave brought the song to Metallica from his previous band Panic, they slowed it down because of Lars complaining and Dave literally threw the Lynard Skyard bit in to mock him, it was Daves song

[@tricky92x]

@@tonygunk86 Did he get paid, though? Doubtful.

[@strayzilla]

Musically, Megadeth by miles. Having new members over the years allowed them to get the best out of each new member and keep the music evolving in a good way. They didn't hit the rut that Metallica has been in for decades.

[@swat1710]

New or old don't matter all the line ups comprise of extremely talented musicians

[@boltdog8107]

"All hail Megadeth. All hail Dave mustaine." Couldn't agree more :)

[@plamenpenkov2865]

Hi, is this where I sign up for the Dave Mustaine support group for butthurt also rans?

[@RAWMUSICTV]

Yes.

[@truedoh2831]

This video was made by Dave Mustaine

[@Swiss_Passport]

You know I always thought that one question for a long time: If you are a musician and you started with a type of music style (let's say thrash metal in this case) are you not allowed to play anything else in your life? I am a big Metallica fan, but also love Megadeth but it's just a fact that they BOTH changed there sound after there first 5 albums (The Black Album and Countdown to Extinction). Load = Youthanasia ReLoad = Cryptic Writings Than there is St. Anger probably the biggest MEME album in the history of Metal And than there is RISK probably one of the "popiest" albums in the history of Metal Sure Megadeth has now 16 albums(with the new one) And Metallica has 10 albums but let's be honest: How many times do you listen Megadeth songs from the time period: Youthanasia - Super Collider? Sure i listened trough the whole discography of Megadeth and I like most of it. But I also think that we listen way more to there classic albums like Peace Sells and Rust in Peace. Same case with Metallica btw. Just wanted to say that hope you understood what I mean cuz english is not my mother tounge😅😁 Anyway just listen to the music you like and enjoy it😎

[@Jae_hX]

I'm a big fan of all megadeths new albums. Been listening to end game. Just because you don't. I get what you're saying though. That really applies to metallica though. Metallica first 4 are what most people I know will listen too. Metallicas albums after black aren't bad by any means, actually they are good, they just are a much different thing so that would either attract a completely new audience or people that also enjoy rock and thrash. Megadeth no matter what album still atheist had some thrash element to it but they went right back to full out THRASH. Metallica might soon follow seeing the rise in old and even the new generation getting super big into old school stuff like thrash metal and extreme sports like skateboarding and all that good stuff. It's all making a BIG comeback

[@marcosflores8188]

I thoroughly enjoy all the Megadeth albums, been jamming TWNAH

[@d10bro]

Risk = Load

[@_carlosamontoya_]

I listen to everything in megadeth’s discography equally, Endgame is one of my favorite megadeth records and youthanasia as well! There’s a lot to love in megadeth post countdown to extinction!

[@222MovieMan]

Youthanasia is a very good album, one of my favorites. But if I listen to Endgame or super collider more, no

[@stevel6986]

Megadeth!!! Guitar riffs and leads... Metallica can’t touch.

[@danzemacabre8899]

I like megadeth slightly more too , but I think some are getting a little carried away, battery, master, disposable, blackened, frayed ends, fight fire with fire. Creeping death. All nightmare long, spit out the bone .all quite spectacular and can hold their own against a anything so that megadeth is light years ahead is just kinda not true, and I do hail Dave mustaine as the thrash God but we're all getting a little carried away

[@jamespatterson2002]

not according to the scoreboard

[@DarrenPrice333]

😂

[@positivepsycho2932]

I knew I subbed for a reason. Absolutely 100% right, Megadeth is just the better of the two bands. I have been listening to Rust in Peace consistently for over 30 years and it never gets boring. All the 80s and 90s records are excellent. Their more recent ones i need to check out still.

[@architectureofdestruction]

The only valid comparison between Megadeth and Metallica is Mechanix and The Four Horsemen. Other than that, the album cover of Countdown To Extinction looks like that creepy man in The Unforgiven. I love Megadeth's discography except Supercollitis. I like Metallica's first four albums, all the Black album except Nothing Else Matters, some songs of Load and Reload, and the other albums, but I don't like Metallica as much as I used to since Jason left the band.

[@talsveta]

Mechanix was completely Dave's song, it's on the No Life Till Leather demo tape sung by James with the original Mechanix lyrics. Metallica changed the lyrics and the speed after firing Dave. The same is true for Jump In The Fire.

[@burkie7]

but the four horsemen is like 10 times better

[@burkie7]

@silversteel6891 better lyrics and riffs

[@burkie7]

@silversteel6891 it depends what your into really but musically, horsemen is the better track. catchier vocals, easier to listen too, and just better in general like you don’t gotta hear daves annoying voice

[@johnp82]

@silversteel6891 Dave's old voice was awesome? 😂 Just stop talking bruh

[@johnp82]

@silversteel6891 this is an open forum, snowflake.

[@matthewbeasley2869]

LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK, PLEASE! This is freaking spot on, no comparison. Megadeth deserves so much more attention than they have ever had! Hopefully the new album & fact that Metalica hasn't realesed anything in 6 years should shine a lil more light on this subject. Just rember Dave wrote um all \m/ & kept writing new music through his cancer treatment.

[@deletedhero5579]

Yea he wrote all megadeth stuff and 4 subpar songs in Metallica. I agree they deserved more limelight but they don't have to destroy another bands legacy to get it, that's just desperate publicity

[@jakebergen1837]

@@deletedhero5579 subpar? Lol what do you think are the best metallica songs?

[@deletedhero5579]

@@jakebergen1837 Everyrhing on their first 4 albums except jump in the fire, phantom lord, metal militia, escape and eye of the beholder. So that's the 3 songs Dave wrote. He helped write four horsemen, ride the lightning and call of ktulu and their good but he didn't write those alone

[@jewel_throne2950]

Megadeth only has 2 good albums. The rest of their piece of shit discography can be disregarded.

[@casual_villain]

As much as I love Metallica, Megadeth 100% wins this for me

[@cris5244]

Yea I feel like their songs have more substance and unique.

[@chaoz7207]

when bro isnt hyping up megadeth hes just shitting on lars

[@hernanbusso1609]

Megadeth also released some weaker albums. They are indeed more consistent than Metallica, but the difference is not as big as people want to pretend. For starters, Load is a very good album, regardless of the genre. And Reaload is okay as well. St. Anger did suck (and the less said about that LuLu thing the better) but with the last three, they did recover a bit. Megadeth released far more albums which is a point in their favor, but some of those are not that great either. I don't think Risk is a better album than Load for instance. Or that everything Megadeth did is better than Reload or Death Magnetic. They had their peaks and valleys too. Not everything they did is Rust in Peace.

[@johnnyreb5345]

It looks as though Dave really found what he set out to do, and that was to make a band more metal than metallica. Metallica will always be my favorite band. But Megadeth will always be better and more talented.

[@alexandrucalin4420]

You're a liar!

[@Sweedurbex]

W opinion

[@brentlohr3394]

Megadeth has always been the better out of the 2. Hell, from what I’ve heard from the new Megadeth album it sounds pretty damn good

[@RAWMUSICTV]

New Megadeth fkin RIPS HARD!!! The album is going to be insane!

[@mizutsunethewaterdancer2155]

metallicaca, has always slow, I guess their fans call it thrash till MEGADETH CAME TO OVERPOWER THE SLOW MOTION SOUND OF metallicaca, MEGADETH ALWAYS RULES

[@jewel_throne2950]

They’ve never been better. They have their moments but their shit is pretty weak.

[@richard_4stringmf178]

Hqrd dissagree: Death magnetic is pretty epic: That was just your life, my apocalypse, All nightmare long. Those songs are awesome: fast, groovy, cool...

[@ExtremeMusicPromotion]

you just gonna skip over cryptic writings? lol. one thrash song... thats it.

[@hollowbodymusic]

Never argue taste. Both bands are in the same elite thrash metal pantheon.