Megan Griffiths: Should you buy a two stroke or a four stroke?

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@DirtBikeChannel
@DirtBikeChannel 8 жыл бұрын
I agree. Buy one of each! If you can't afford both, get the cheaper one that is easier to maintain. That would be the 2 stroke :) Most guys won't have to worry about jetting after they get it dialed in once.
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 8 жыл бұрын
Good call 👍. Both are amazing machines.
@MR-04
@MR-04 6 жыл бұрын
No 4 Stroke !!! ALL THE WAY !!!!!!!!!!
@aapbehr
@aapbehr 6 жыл бұрын
I would agree with the jetting to an extent. I have to adjust my idle air screw with the weather. When I lived in Colorado it wasn’t an issue. But now on the east coast it needs to be adjusted with the temperature and humidity.
@kagamine_rin0294
@kagamine_rin0294 5 жыл бұрын
You wont have to fix your 4 stroke
@sciencemilitia1853
@sciencemilitia1853 5 жыл бұрын
@@kagamine_rin0294 Bull shit!
@65elcamino283
@65elcamino283 8 жыл бұрын
i'm going to show this video to my girl, so she can stop asking me why i need two bikes. lol
@frogzie
@frogzie 8 жыл бұрын
So this video is obviously useful!
@65elcamino283
@65elcamino283 8 жыл бұрын
haha yup!! ironic timing here too. i am going to go check out a tt-r125 for her after work today! she just decided to try riding with me!!!
@oherroprease207
@oherroprease207 9 жыл бұрын
A few things I'd add: -4 Strokes are a lot harder to start when you stall them while riding. (A lot of people buy the "hot start" to help) -If you plan to cruise, a 2 stroke is not ideal. Staying at a constant rpm is not something it like to do, you are either decelerating or accelerating. There isn't really a middle option. -I recommend 4 strokes to beginners so they can get used to riding with the predictable response you talked about. I've had many friends flip my old kx85 because they hit the power band WOT and went over board. That's not going to happen on a 4 stroke. -You forgot to say with 2 strokes the piston fires every time it goes up! with the 4 stroke it's every other time. That's a big reason why you have more power in the 2 stroke. With a 4 stroke it's "1 stroke for power, 3 strokes to wear the engine out" XD That's about all I can think of at the moment
@milomindabinda8115
@milomindabinda8115 9 жыл бұрын
100% correct.
@alfredo42o
@alfredo42o 8 жыл бұрын
+oHerroPrease i dont really agree with the 4 strokes are harder to start, thats really only true with 450's and 500's
@milan5159
@milan5159 7 жыл бұрын
oHerroPrease lol i started on a 2stroke and.still ride one
@jonathankoulai494
@jonathankoulai494 7 жыл бұрын
oHerroPrease u seem experienced with dirt bike and I need some help since im planning to buy my first dirt bike do u have kik?
@guccigangsters6922
@guccigangsters6922 6 жыл бұрын
Is a 4 stroke automatic?
@logancollins7068
@logancollins7068 7 жыл бұрын
"EVERYONE BUY TWO BIKES!" Well said
@oherroprease207
@oherroprease207 9 жыл бұрын
Once you ride a 2 stroke you'll stay addicted to the Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang.
@davidbeck5628
@davidbeck5628 8 жыл бұрын
+mdo686 I ride both but mostly my 450
@kongenisinghetto2327
@kongenisinghetto2327 8 жыл бұрын
I just got my 1988 honda mt5 50cc completely original and its almost as fast as my 125cc pitbike LOL im now addicted to 2 smokers
@dylanspain8369
@dylanspain8369 8 жыл бұрын
then if you want to win you buy a four stroke
@davindrachenberg8536
@davindrachenberg8536 8 жыл бұрын
I've ridden 125 2 stroke for a year and I am going for 4 stroke lol.
@terinaglennie818
@terinaglennie818 8 жыл бұрын
wtf
@devodar2579
@devodar2579 8 жыл бұрын
I like them both. I just purchased a 450 four stroke and I gotta tell you, this thing is a blast. Gobs of power and sounds awesome. I will probably buy a 300 two stroke after a few years just to go back to an ultra light bike. Great vid, Megan you did a nice job... very professional.
@YzBlue777
@YzBlue777 8 жыл бұрын
2 stroke for the dirt' 4 stroke for the street!!
@tristenkiesow4061
@tristenkiesow4061 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sciencemilitia1853
@sciencemilitia1853 5 жыл бұрын
2 stroke for the dirt. 2 stroke also for the street
@niki5948
@niki5948 5 жыл бұрын
@Charles Johnson in finland they do
@eskimoto4417
@eskimoto4417 5 жыл бұрын
@@sciencemilitia1853 hahah right on brotha
@smokepeddler
@smokepeddler 5 жыл бұрын
2 stroke for the street as well
@joebrownfield7946
@joebrownfield7946 9 жыл бұрын
One thing I think you should've mentioned is that when it comes to any slow and technical riding when there's not a lot of air moving through, the 4 strokes will start to overheat way quicker than any 2 stroke. Very well done video and very informative :).
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
+Jeremy Miguire (Raptor Killa) Yes for sure! My two stoke never overheats. The only time I've ever smelled coolant was when my rad hose was leaking when I was filming for Episode 3 of the web series hahaha. There are actually a ton of other things I would have liked to mention. It's tough to keep a video under 5 minutes! I also would have mentioned that the two strokes are much easier to start. Even with the electric start on both, the 2 strokes start up much better. There are so many things... I really appreciate the comment and you supporting my channel Jeremy :D.
@simonsryd1
@simonsryd1 9 жыл бұрын
In Sweden ktm is called "koka till mål" (boil to finish) and that's why powerparts offer an electric cooling fan for the radiator and the issue is solved! :-)
@vevohoeyo
@vevohoeyo 8 жыл бұрын
in years of riding 4 strokes iv never had an overheating issue no matter what conditions. it's down to the fact that Muppets don't service there bikes
@joebrownfield7946
@joebrownfield7946 8 жыл бұрын
+vevohoeyo 4 strokes will overheat quick if no air is moving through the radiator, that's a fact not an opinion.
@vevohoeyo
@vevohoeyo 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeremy Miguire (Raptor Killa) one thing u should do is stick to your 2 stroke while the rest of the world moves on
@2troke
@2troke 8 жыл бұрын
Easy, if you have to ask the question your not ready for a 2 stroke.
@dhprojects2881
@dhprojects2881 8 жыл бұрын
well put
@Motoxcross
@Motoxcross 8 жыл бұрын
Bradley truuu I have a 2001 cr250
@bobriley000444
@bobriley000444 8 жыл бұрын
no it's the other way around everyone should start on 2 strokes!
@2troke
@2troke 8 жыл бұрын
Other way round, after seeing you account name that sort of makes sense lol. Maybe your right, everyone starts on a 2 banger that way the scaredy cats can go off and find some other interest and we wouldn't have any of those noisy 4 strokes at all, win win. BTW Gas Gas EC300 here
@bring_me_the_oli3897
@bring_me_the_oli3897 7 жыл бұрын
Bradley 2 strokes are WWWWAAAAAAAAAAYYYY louder, are you fucking deaf?
@imadecoy.
@imadecoy. 8 жыл бұрын
Failed to mention that 2 strokes are more stall resistant at low RPMs and that 2 strokes are given a displacement disadvantage in many racing formats.
@xheppelin1827
@xheppelin1827 8 жыл бұрын
And are easier to ride smoothly at low speeds both because they don't have as much engine braking, don't stall as easily but still have enough torque to push through.
@hamish2202
@hamish2202 7 жыл бұрын
xheppelin yeah they have more torque than a 450 a 300
@wontrespond3263
@wontrespond3263 7 жыл бұрын
Only if you a granny and lazy with a clutch.
@II-sf1df
@II-sf1df 6 жыл бұрын
True but 2 strokes run at a much higher rpm so if you keep the rpm up nothing to worrie about. Just got to feel the bike mate
@flagovhate
@flagovhate 6 жыл бұрын
o k FALSE 2 strokes run at lower rpm than many modern 4 strokes.
@stevehenley8409
@stevehenley8409 9 жыл бұрын
i did have both.but now just run two stroke way more fun and cheaper to fits.
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
+steve henley Definitely! And so much simpler.
@stevehenley8409
@stevehenley8409 9 жыл бұрын
+Megan Griffiths yep crosscountry raceing next month can't wait.four rounds.good fun.
@zane4964
@zane4964 8 жыл бұрын
steve henley agreed
@PolskiMotoVlog
@PolskiMotoVlog 9 жыл бұрын
ONLY TWO STROKE!
@dieselgeezer18
@dieselgeezer18 5 жыл бұрын
Both engines are perfect. Lets stop arguing about engines. Our real enemies are these quad bike guys
@MrHammGutsnGlory
@MrHammGutsnGlory 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video! kzbin.info/door/KlHrLSNL5eVkNUjJALrYOg
@amyrat2204
@amyrat2204 8 жыл бұрын
I'd take 4 strokes for the trails cause of the low end power it really helps on the tough parts of the trails and when u need to go slow and easy and I'd take 2strokes for the track because they make a lot of power and just do really well on the track where u need speed and power right there but in the woods 2strokes do get a little harder to manage than 4strokes but personally I prefer 2 strokes but am still a big fan of 4strokes basicaly all bikes are great dont discriminate . 😂
@LS-hn6wt
@LS-hn6wt 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... That was a comprehensive guide, I feel so much better informed now. It all depends on whether I want to bash the exhaust header and pre-mix my fuel. Great
@HeatherUlmer
@HeatherUlmer 9 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks for this comparison!
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
No problem, thanks for watching!
@justanotherchannel6424
@justanotherchannel6424 6 жыл бұрын
Ur absolutely right having one of each would be best thing, to take advantage of different riding conditions and to have the most fun possible !
@gowengetter4599
@gowengetter4599 9 жыл бұрын
Beta 300rr 2T no longer requires gas mixing it's now electronic with separate tanks :)
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
So I've heard! That's pretty wild :D.
@davindrachenberg8536
@davindrachenberg8536 8 жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool! I never knew that!
@Cmott426
@Cmott426 8 жыл бұрын
My Beta 2 Stroke also has a ton of low end torque. 2 ignition curves with a flick of a switch and an adjustable Power Valve.
@Bikecampcook
@Bikecampcook 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's not as sexy as KTM
@davindrachenberg8536
@davindrachenberg8536 8 жыл бұрын
your right it's not.. It's 10 times more sexy!
@ayodemayo
@ayodemayo 8 жыл бұрын
Ktm 6 days edition stands for how long it usually takes to blow em up
@Community-Action
@Community-Action 8 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention that a 2 stroke always sounds better when revved up
@Raven420
@Raven420 8 жыл бұрын
Caleb Guidroz no
@daltonhonaker611
@daltonhonaker611 8 жыл бұрын
4 strokes sound WAY better that's one of there pros
@CKing724
@CKing724 8 жыл бұрын
No way lol, way to loud in my opinion, don't get me wrong my old rmz450 sounded nasty but most 4 strokes are really loud, i prefer the power of a 250 2t also.
@CKing724
@CKing724 8 жыл бұрын
Ledgend27 that's why a 250 2 stroke has as much power as a 450 4 stroke
@CKing724
@CKing724 8 жыл бұрын
skojo3e lol
@nickj6275
@nickj6275 6 жыл бұрын
2 stroke is my go to bike it's a 2 in 1. Haul ass and kills mosquitos in the woods.
@paulschalkham4940
@paulschalkham4940 8 жыл бұрын
How is mixing gas a con it's all about opinion
@eric-rz8sp
@eric-rz8sp 8 жыл бұрын
+PAul Schalkham I thought the same thing...great minds think alike :D
@paulschalkham4940
@paulschalkham4940 8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha true
@paulschalkham4940
@paulschalkham4940 8 жыл бұрын
Yah but it a preference between fuel injection
@paulschalkham4940
@paulschalkham4940 8 жыл бұрын
Because on a four stroke you still have to change your oil. I'm saying it a preference between that and mixing gas
@paulschalkham4940
@paulschalkham4940 8 жыл бұрын
+HelmetCamMatt it takes less than a minute to mix gas
@spencermoran5282
@spencermoran5282 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've been trying to find a good video like this.
@rrrigbyyy
@rrrigbyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously a 2-stroke, they’re faster, easier to fix and sound amazing.
@PapaWheelie1
@PapaWheelie1 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that smell. Something about two stroke exhaust in the morning- it’s better than coffee
@rrrigbyyy
@rrrigbyyy 4 жыл бұрын
PapaWheelie true that
@davidblum_
@davidblum_ 4 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily faster depends the bike
@favillous3355
@favillous3355 4 жыл бұрын
4 strokes faster on a track
@nadiajvr
@nadiajvr 4 жыл бұрын
U mean a 4 stroke
@sam.costa8897
@sam.costa8897 8 жыл бұрын
couldn,t be more clear!well done.
@justin6378
@justin6378 8 жыл бұрын
it's not called a 'header' it's an expansion chamber!
@alienmechanic8696
@alienmechanic8696 8 жыл бұрын
it's called a stomach
@buckwheat6970
@buckwheat6970 8 жыл бұрын
Justin Lankester header pipe, expansion chamber, same difference. some people call it a header pipe, some call it an expansion chamber.
@voltag3man
@voltag3man 7 жыл бұрын
Its correct terminology is an expansion chamber.
@justin6378
@justin6378 7 жыл бұрын
Big Tom yep, the header/manifold is the bit before the expansion chamber not the rest of the exhaust! I would rightly expect to be laughed at if I asked for a performance cat-back header for my car!
@voltag3man
@voltag3man 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah you would get some weird ass looks asking for somethin like that lol
@bigbeast1018
@bigbeast1018 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this it has helped me out so much
@user-sp8eb6iz7f
@user-sp8eb6iz7f 5 жыл бұрын
My dream girl, good looking and can fix my bike!!!
@bikermike
@bikermike 7 жыл бұрын
you are correct, considering a 250xc for woods, and keeping my 450 for track.
@shakalpb1164
@shakalpb1164 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Video, it helped me a lot :)
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 8 жыл бұрын
shakal pb No problem! Glad I could help!
@adrickmalekian5134
@adrickmalekian5134 8 жыл бұрын
shakal pb
@sephjfox
@sephjfox 3 жыл бұрын
So true about the 2stroke being lighter and more nimble. Also another fun aspect of the 2stroke, the sound is a lot more exciting
@WR250HUSKY
@WR250HUSKY 8 жыл бұрын
Funny though , I've got a 450 4t and 300 2t and the 4t just doesn't get ridden anymore , weather it be technical single track or desert runs I'll grab the 300 !
@davindrachenberg8536
@davindrachenberg8536 8 жыл бұрын
You don't have either of them if you think that
@Skeletonboss12
@Skeletonboss12 8 жыл бұрын
Alex Frankl dish me that 4t???? Haha
@bobriley000444
@bobriley000444 8 жыл бұрын
well thought-out video and clear explanation.. great advice
@Rktman129
@Rktman129 8 жыл бұрын
Ktm on Sunday atm on Monday dnf ready
@briandavis4916
@briandavis4916 4 жыл бұрын
K eeps T aking M oney
@blakeb4399
@blakeb4399 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a 2 stroke guy but this poped up in feed so I watched
@stillltippin5758
@stillltippin5758 7 жыл бұрын
I think I'm too hard on my bikes but I swear I can't get more than 25 hours on my 2 stroke bikes without screeching to a halt with my back tire locked in place. After putting another 200 bucks in it I've earned myself 25 more hours. As for my four stroke bike.. I smack top rpm everytime I ride without fail, almost never change the oil on time and damn. it just doesn't stop
@drift.721
@drift.721 6 жыл бұрын
what do you do to your bikes. years ago i had an 2010 ktm 85 sx when i was racing and they were notorious for blowing up early at 40 hours. our engine made it right through to 80 hours before blowing. bike was only used for racing and banging off the limiter all the time
@Darcecon
@Darcecon 8 жыл бұрын
Subbed! I see you were on Vancouver Island earlier this month, wish I could have seen that race!
@yuckymike
@yuckymike 6 жыл бұрын
2 strokes are the best type of bike and the large header pipe looks bad ass!
@tonydraht
@tonydraht 8 жыл бұрын
0:45 was that the only bike in her size? Ok jokes aside, I liked the video a lot. It actually covered some of the technical details to each engine rather than just opinions.
@apriliazillaa1994
@apriliazillaa1994 8 жыл бұрын
We all see you reading that script at the side pretending you're looking at something else in the room
@iseeyou8219
@iseeyou8219 8 жыл бұрын
+Kx BDAN You do realize she is looking at the side screen of the camera hahaha
@apriliazillaa1994
@apriliazillaa1994 8 жыл бұрын
aka where the script is located cos she actually dosent know what shes talking about:)
@iseeyou8219
@iseeyou8219 8 жыл бұрын
+Kx BDAN Dont be jealous bud that she knows more then you do when it comes to dirt bikes...There is no script...SMH
@apriliazillaa1994
@apriliazillaa1994 8 жыл бұрын
I SEE YOU there is, lol, and she dosent shes just there cos shes a female...SMH
@aymerickmessier5359
@aymerickmessier5359 8 жыл бұрын
and she forgot about the big game changer with the 2 stroke.... waaaayyy less reliable
@azdesertdog
@azdesertdog 9 жыл бұрын
I agree! Two bikes! I have a question though what is your preference in the woods. Wide or short ratio? Also do you prefer the XC enduro or is an SX better suited?
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
+azdesertdog Oooh boy haha tough decision. I've never riden the ktm two stroke sx before but I owned an SXF for a couple of years. I definitely prefered the transmission in my SXF. I'm actually not much a fan of the wide ratio transmission. I'm making it work but I can't wait to get back on a 250 sxf or a 300 xc!
@zane4964
@zane4964 8 жыл бұрын
2stroke for off road 4 stroke for motocross
@HankePanke
@HankePanke 8 жыл бұрын
mmm... no 4strokes have wider torque so they are better for enduro and for mx anything you like
@zane4964
@zane4964 8 жыл бұрын
+sakke sikiö un no have you ever rode a big bore 2 stroke it has crazy torque.
@HankePanke
@HankePanke 8 жыл бұрын
+Zane Zinn okay
@bobthebuilder2922
@bobthebuilder2922 7 жыл бұрын
eks koskaa oo ihmetelly miks kaikki pro ajajat (Graham Jarvis, Jonny Walker jne) enduros ajaa 300cc 2 tahdeil? koska neo kevyempii, niis on itseasias aikas vääntävä kone ja neo tehokkaampii jne.
@voltag3man
@voltag3man 7 жыл бұрын
Its so simple 2 strokes are faster because the engine dont have to wait for valves to open and close. therefore lower RPM, 2 strokes on other hand no valves. no cam shaft. none of that heavy bullshit, there you go now you got a good weight reduction. and when your engine doesnt need to wait for valves = higher RPM. higher RPM = more torque... more torque = more HP, more HP = More speed, and the faster it gets up to that speed.
@andrewmartsch
@andrewmartsch 6 жыл бұрын
My 4 stroke Honda 250x works great off-road but it’s also a racing bike. It’s a mix of both.
@stevenphillips6147
@stevenphillips6147 8 жыл бұрын
All bullshit aside .I need a 1000cc two stroke with electric start and fuel injection please
@DKIN-em5lh
@DKIN-em5lh 8 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a recipe for a suicide machine. I like it.
@jordansmith-cm5en
@jordansmith-cm5en 8 жыл бұрын
sounds like someone is suicidal you might want to call the suicide hot line and get help!
@alienmechanic8696
@alienmechanic8696 8 жыл бұрын
DIESEL POWER!!
@deawo2008
@deawo2008 8 жыл бұрын
hahahaha, man u got me cracking into laughter bro..a 1k cc 2 stroke.... dude i will get a drag bike.. we can start a team.. what u say... lol...#usportman
@bobriley000444
@bobriley000444 8 жыл бұрын
some guys from new zealand built a "YZR 500" (video is on youtube) fi cr500 engine in a yz250f frame, thing sounded crisp af
@DMobley232
@DMobley232 8 жыл бұрын
Great Vid. My 13yr old daughter has outgrown her Yamaha TTR 110. Do you have suggestions on what bike would be a good bike to upgrade her to? She does combination of Track and trail riding but wants to get more into track and racing.
@trentalexander2760
@trentalexander2760 8 жыл бұрын
125 2t
@claytonneilson3430
@claytonneilson3430 8 жыл бұрын
Dustin Mobley maybe a YZ 125
@xanderlambert4200
@xanderlambert4200 7 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki klx140 or klx140l
@aidensampat7382
@aidensampat7382 7 жыл бұрын
Yz 85
@MultiTHUNDER00
@MultiTHUNDER00 6 жыл бұрын
125cc kx cr ot yz your choice those bikes have plenty of power! But keep in mind 2 stroke is the way to go!
@nibbify
@nibbify 8 жыл бұрын
Love the vid! 2 Stroke all the way!
@gohogs2277
@gohogs2277 4 жыл бұрын
nibbify yeeyee
@MuddySump
@MuddySump 9 жыл бұрын
Waiting for my local husky shop to ring me to tell me my te300's finally came in. All they knew was that it would be January sometime. Been waiting a month 🤗
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
+MuddySump Oooh don't you just hate waiting? So much excitement :D.
@criticalhpgaming5635
@criticalhpgaming5635 8 жыл бұрын
450 or a 250 2 stroke?
@dazzaskillz9278
@dazzaskillz9278 8 жыл бұрын
U suck pewdiepie or vanoss?
@modsquad8817
@modsquad8817 8 жыл бұрын
Critical HP Gaming depends on the ridding m8
@motometrix1715
@motometrix1715 7 жыл бұрын
Critical HP Gaming 450
@M4TT4TT4CK
@M4TT4TT4CK 7 жыл бұрын
for the average rider, a 450 is too much power. be honest with yourself
@ezeejimogu4672
@ezeejimogu4672 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison Megan. Can a 2stroke sound be made quieter and a little deeper? Are there after market stuff for that?
@dazzaskillz9278
@dazzaskillz9278 8 жыл бұрын
Nope.. Learn to love the sound of the 2 stroke..inhale the blue smoke.. Wank off into the tank..its there to be loved
@fatadam16
@fatadam16 8 жыл бұрын
+Dazza skillz I love you
@TheGoldenSapling
@TheGoldenSapling 8 жыл бұрын
2 stroke has more power than 4 stroke
@joelballard4952
@joelballard4952 3 жыл бұрын
Except of course for any modern 450, and the ktm 350’s. There is nothing with more power than those 450s.
@krazykay3364
@krazykay3364 3 жыл бұрын
I always said I would never get a 2 stroke. Now I have one and I love it! I agree you need one of each!
@winky_cat
@winky_cat 6 жыл бұрын
I love love Canadian accents! Fuel injection for 2 strokes is here thanks to KTM
@paahtopro3950
@paahtopro3950 3 жыл бұрын
and tm
@jameswil
@jameswil 8 жыл бұрын
good advice, ive got a bandit 600 and a drz400, now im going to get a ktm exc 300 :)
@MxRider721
@MxRider721 8 жыл бұрын
I apologize for the negative feedback! But I've seen the how the industry and the sport of MX is declining because people think four strokes are so great. For example, dad and son want to race MX. Son wants a 4 stroke like the pros! (because they think four strokes are faster, not know that CC for CC two strokes produce MORE power AND torque than four strokes) Dad buys a 250f... 250f shortly after blows up because that is what they do (I've seen it a million times)... Bike goes up for sale... worthless.. Because its too expensive to fix and requires more mechanical ability, and tools. But if say they had bought a 125 or 250 2t instead, they can easily and cheaply afford to rebuild the bike themselves in their garage. Motocross was hugely booming in the 90's. Since the millennium the industry has been in a decline. Which you can partially blame on the economy but I've been in it from the start and I can tell you the four stroke fad has HURT local tracks and riders. Big time. Theres so many misconceptions about the two strokes still circulating today (even though more people are becoming wise to it, and buying two strokes instead) that are influencing people to buy four strokes, which in turn is just filling the pockets of rich CEO's in charge of Honda, Kawi, Suzuki, Yamaha, because four stroke dirtbikes not only cost more, but they cost much much more to fix. In conclusion, four strokes are for people who can AFFORD them. I want to see MX come back to what it used to be!
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 8 жыл бұрын
For some reason KZbin doesn't show the full comment. It ends with ... in the middle of your sentence. But here is the thing....I switched to a two stroke for these reasons you just described. I had a 250f and it was expensive to maintain and more complex to work on. I like my two stroke a lot. I still really enjoyed my four stroke though and I miss it sometimes. Some people really prefer the way a four stroke rides. To each their own right. I fully agree with you about the fact that they have been trying to weed out the two strokes in moto/supercross because they make more money off them, period. But that's not what I was trying to get across in the vid. Just giving my input on the ups and downs of both bikes. Feel free to give negative feedback. It's all good.
@logancobb683
@logancobb683 7 жыл бұрын
Rode my first 2 stroke the other day, it was a 2011 husky WR 250, I’m hooked now, getting ready to get a KX 250 2 stroke
@danhenderson783
@danhenderson783 8 жыл бұрын
No one would pick a four stroke of equal cc over a two stroke for the track. You would give up gobs of torque and hp
@BeachHead79
@BeachHead79 9 жыл бұрын
Nicely produced! A mic would have done wonders, but still okey. Most of my veteran enduro riding buddies are running 4-strokes and seem happy with them. I chose a 2-stroke for the lighter weight and simplicity. Cheaper parts as mentioned but also a bit more time spent in the garage I would say. Both bikes has there place nowadays. Can't really go wrong either way I think.
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
+BeachHead79 Well said! It really is hard to choose. And yes, I definitely need a mic! Especially in that noisy bike shop...
@nlswampgrizz6705
@nlswampgrizz6705 8 жыл бұрын
you said at the end a 4 stroke for the track and a 2 stroke for the woods, but its the other way around
@baileyluker6600
@baileyluker6600 8 жыл бұрын
Lol.. wrong, why do you motocross and supercross is dominated with 4Ts and extreme or hard enduro harescrambles are dominated with 2Ts? She's right 2Ts for woods and 4Ts for track!
@nlswampgrizz6705
@nlswampgrizz6705 8 жыл бұрын
no that's like sayin you would take a wr250 out on the track and taking a yz125 in wood
@cc4666
@cc4666 8 жыл бұрын
+PowerStroke Gaming I run a yz125 in the woods and I like it better than my old 4 stroke
@zane4964
@zane4964 8 жыл бұрын
Cummins Diesel no its not
@zane4964
@zane4964 8 жыл бұрын
Cummins Diesel why do you think all the enduro pros ride 2 strokes. why do you think motocross has switched to 4 stroke
@vladimirpetrov9717
@vladimirpetrov9717 8 жыл бұрын
There is EFI for 2 strokes. Mostly snowmobiles use them. There are injectors spraying oil directly on the crankshaft and there is a fuel injector on the top of the crank case. If I recall correctly a few of the most popular 2 stroke bikes have EFI conversion kits for them too.
@trentt3620
@trentt3620 8 жыл бұрын
Ok say it takes 1 minute to put some oil in fuel on a four stroke if your racing you have change your oil every couple of races that could take up to 30 mins plus if inexperienced change oil filter and if you don't you have a chance on blowing up your motor after that your looking at 3000 to just get it fixed where on a 2 stroke you put some oil in your fuel and if you happen to blow a motor $300 and it's fixed so you can buy a money waster and slower bike or a faster and cheaper to run bike your choice personally I ride a cr125 and a kx250 2strorke
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 8 жыл бұрын
Trent T Okay, so this is a basic comparison video made for the inexperienced looking into purchasing a motorcycle. There are obviously pros and cons to both and what some people think are cons, could be pros to others. Basically what I was trying to let these people know is that a two stroke requires and extra step when fuelling. It's just something I thought I should mention to anyone that is new to the sport. Not necessarily a major con, just figured it was more of a con than an pro. I had to mention it somehow. Every once in a while it can be a pain in the butt, maybe you're out of mixing oil and it's a Sunday and the shops are all closed, it's happened to me many of times. People are so quick to pick the video apart when all I was doing is trying to get some basic information to new riders haha.
@trentt3620
@trentt3620 8 жыл бұрын
So your saying there is not a shop open on Sunday that sell oil that is the biggest load of shit I have ever heard I will tell ya now it's better changing oil after every 3 rides and wasting more time fixing your bike than actually riding it and then if you don't change oil you have more of a chance of blowing a motor than you have to fix it and that takes a lot of time meanwhile all your friends are riding because they where smart and brought a 2 stroke where you don't have to change oil after every 3 rides u don't have the risk of spending 3 k on your bike you don't have to waste time working on it as much I am sure that a person that wants to get in to riding dosent want do maintenance on there bikes a lot plus if they blow a 2 stroke up it is going to be quicker to get running again and cheaper so like I said time waster and money waster or a bike that's faster cheaper less maintenance it's a pretty obvious choice
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 8 жыл бұрын
Trent T Hahaha you are right out to lunch. It's amazing how close minded people can be. I can see now that you've got barely enough brain power to keep your heart beating. If you had an attention span at all and watched the entire video, you'd have seen that a spoke about he maintenance costs of the 2 stroke vs the 4 stroke as well. Yes, I am well aware that the 4 strokes are expensive to maintain in comparison. I've owned more than one of each and have experienced it for myself. This doesn't mean that whoever buys a 4 stroke isn't smart. Believe it or not, some people can actually afford to ride one and enjoy them more. Pretty cool eh? Haha man, this is why I don't respond to comments on this video very often. People with very little brain power lose their minds over the tiny things rather than seeing the big picture. I was MENTIONING to people who are NEW to riding that 2 strokes require mixed fuel. It's no big deal. In no way, shape, or form does it say in this video that mixing fuel costs more than maintaining a 4 stroke machine. Nor does it imply that a 2 stroke isn't worth buying for this reason. It's just a little bit of information for newbies. Calm down, take a pill, and go watch something else if my stuff is so offensive to you haha.
@trentt3620
@trentt3620 8 жыл бұрын
Now your just being a fucking smart ass I might have not read correctly but u said mixing gas is more expensive than changing oil because that incorrect changing oil is time wasting and is going to cost more i don't know what country you live in but j know where I am I can go down to any fuel station and they have a pump for 2 stroke fuel so that way your not going to mix fuel and you will just have to do what every four stroke rider has to do yes I know four stroke can be fun to ride if you say live on A farm and have land to muck around on in the mud but there still boring there always the same and reason why I put some of the Points in my comment so if someone that is looking to get in to the sport he knows more detail about prices and maintenance because you briefly said it in your video you just say there more expensive when you say new rider arent going to know if you Mean buy $100 dollars or a couple of thousand dollars
@jordansmith-cm5en
@jordansmith-cm5en 8 жыл бұрын
+Megan Griffiths Enduro haha I like how you got salty with him instead of just taking it! personally I truly believe the 2s will always dominate the 4s on paper and on the track in the hands of an experienced rider because let's be honest for a beginner the four stroke is easier then the 2 stoke however there is more power and torque on a two stoke you just have to practice in order to get it from the bike properly but I think you did a good or decent job informing people! thanks for the video
@originalschmid
@originalschmid 9 жыл бұрын
Also, as of 2016 Betas 250/300 models are oil injected and do not require you to mix gas. Roughly every 3rd tank of fuel requires you to add a quart of oil to the tank under the seat.
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
+originalschmid Wow that's rad! I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!
@Cowboy4737
@Cowboy4737 8 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of a two smoke but I'm a big guy and love that low end grunt of a four stroke.
@zane4964
@zane4964 8 жыл бұрын
Cowboy4737 clearly you haven't ridden a big bore enduro 2 stroke the low down grunt of thoses are incredible and will blow away a 4 stroke low down
@DaShnipa
@DaShnipa 8 жыл бұрын
Good vid, good info for new riders... It seems you work for a KTM dealership but I'll leave this here either way... The new Beta 300R 2 stroke has oil injection.... it's f*cking amazing.... Can't wait to see what KTM/Husky develop to compete.
@randomchannel4855
@randomchannel4855 8 жыл бұрын
I ride 2 stroke the best on the market
@matthews852
@matthews852 5 жыл бұрын
Shut the fuck up lol.
@alexyraymond4721
@alexyraymond4721 5 жыл бұрын
I owned 3 two strokes. Still have a two stroke. But i just lately went to the track on ktm ride day. After riding two 2020 two strokes, i jumped on the 250sxf. i have to say that i completely fell in love with this bike. I didnt really feel the weight diference comparing to the 150sx but just loved how smooth and predictable the bike was. The low rpm power was something i never experienced. It felt great coming out of corners. I just loved it. Really looking on buying one. The 150sx was also very nice to ride and less expensive also.
@rabbitfootedkitty1339
@rabbitfootedkitty1339 8 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter, a dirt bike is great and they all are good! Think positive! :) Except for a 4 stroke uuuhhgggg...
@teldowding1217
@teldowding1217 8 жыл бұрын
also that big header makes the bike look badass
@lukea1452
@lukea1452 8 жыл бұрын
this is sooo screwed up u can get oil injection on a 2 stroke and fuel injection don't listen 2 this unless ur smoking the same thing they are!!!
@Zoom-ui2pf
@Zoom-ui2pf 7 жыл бұрын
chrome nation mixing gas is easy. If people think that 4 strokes are better because u don't need to mix then they clearly can't under stand simple measurements. Mixing gas takes under a minute
@JorgeGonzalez-ei6ft
@JorgeGonzalez-ei6ft 5 жыл бұрын
Its an old vid dude.
@tylerchambers8959
@tylerchambers8959 9 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with everything mentioned in this video and very well done. I do think there are a few things worth mentioning though. A lot of the pros of a four stroke can be done to a two stroke with a few mods. You can tune the bike to a smoother powerband (although it will never be as smooth as a four stroke), 300 two strokes are known for their great low end torque in comparison to smaller two strokes, and a Lectron carburetor can nearly eliminate the need to rejet a carb. I completely agree with the weight comparison, my dad's 2012 WR450F is noticeably heavier than my 2005 300EXC both on the trail and even when picking it up onto the stand. Parts are also substantially cheaper for my two stroke than my dad's four stroke, and replacing them are much easier than my dad's bike. I also completely agree with the header pipe on a two stroke, much more susceptible to dents and being crushed (also not very cheap to replace $225 for mine). Well done video and you've earned a subscriber.
@seanperks2702
@seanperks2702 8 жыл бұрын
there is actually fuel injected two strokes.......
@Jk42020
@Jk42020 5 жыл бұрын
Sean Perks like the nsr125 possibility the best 2 stroke
@alvarocerritos
@alvarocerritos 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really matter; as long as it's what you prefer, it puts a smile on your face, and most importantly, it provides you with hours of FUN!
@kylebrackett2543
@kylebrackett2543 8 жыл бұрын
I just watch a 5 min video to de told to buy 2 dike That was a wast of time
@richrides2308
@richrides2308 9 жыл бұрын
I started riding on a 250 four stroke, but then I got into trials on a two stroke & fell in love with it. Now riding a two smoker GasGas EC300, very nice bike! Awesome comparison btw :D
@eliinthewolverinestate6729
@eliinthewolverinestate6729 6 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of 2 stroke in the morning.
@jeffsmith4801
@jeffsmith4801 5 жыл бұрын
And just after lunch. And before dinner. And after . . . .
@wesmorey6167
@wesmorey6167 3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutly right, you need one of each. Although fun factor is much higher on 2T
@kaiserroop3906
@kaiserroop3906 7 жыл бұрын
0:38 did anyone see that shirt that says my farts sound like four strokes but smell like two strokes
@Hunter-ve4pv
@Hunter-ve4pv 9 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, learned some things I didn't know. Is that pooch at the 10 second mark the shops resident dog? He's watching the camera like a hawk.
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
+Hunter 84 Thanks! The dog in the video is mine. He goes everywhere with me :D.
@Lup3r
@Lup3r 8 жыл бұрын
2stroke: loud and annoying 4stroke: sounds like an actual engine
@its_zack6726
@its_zack6726 8 жыл бұрын
4 strokes sound like my ass after going out for Mexican
@mason118p
@mason118p 8 жыл бұрын
+Ascent Zaak that was so funny
@benveper8984
@benveper8984 8 жыл бұрын
2 stroke sounds like the engine is going to just shatter
@benveper8984
@benveper8984 8 жыл бұрын
+Dasa Toilet no it's just that 2 strokes are as useless as a blowfly
@EnduroGripBosnien
@EnduroGripBosnien 6 жыл бұрын
Do you see our 2t pipe guards?
@albertptran
@albertptran 9 жыл бұрын
Marry me
@PeterOlexa_
@PeterOlexa_ 4 жыл бұрын
How is it with maintaining 2 stroke engines nowadays?
@jonnyg8888
@jonnyg8888 8 жыл бұрын
2 stroke . lighter cheaper , more fun and sound better four strokes sound like there farting big time 😮
@brunomassimi2411
@brunomassimi2411 7 жыл бұрын
Jonny g not completely true in my opinion my buddy has a 4 stroke and it sounds like a best
@inthesPhila
@inthesPhila 5 жыл бұрын
When your bikes sinks in deep water, two strokes can get going again a lot easier, right?
@DjGrahnstettoOffical
@DjGrahnstettoOffical 7 жыл бұрын
One thing she forgot to mention in the video about the 2-stroke, is that, early on, you will learn the basic stuff better than if you've got a 4-stroke right away. Taste makes the change tho, don't take my word
@abbieliegh1238
@abbieliegh1238 7 жыл бұрын
DjGrahnstetto Aka Dj Grahnstedt
@karigreyd2808
@karigreyd2808 8 жыл бұрын
2 stokes. I want an adorable rebuild. When you have to do head work 4 stokes can get very expensive. I own a 2009 xc-w 250 and a 2006 exc 450.
@julianwilson5174
@julianwilson5174 9 жыл бұрын
Your channel is really growing
@megs_braap
@megs_braap 9 жыл бұрын
+julian wilson Woohoo! I've been working hard at it :D.
@aggressivetimtam4535
@aggressivetimtam4535 8 жыл бұрын
Chose what ever you like doesn't really matter a bike is a bike
@Skeletonboss12
@Skeletonboss12 8 жыл бұрын
Im 2 stroke all the way no hate to 4t riders though, props to you guys for dealing with the hate and staying loyal to your stuff. Im just an enduro type.
@tb0496
@tb0496 6 жыл бұрын
So the 2 stroke is better ?!??
@motoklx
@motoklx 5 жыл бұрын
4 stroker my WR is bullet proof and I can lug it to the moon great for steep rocky, rooty trails here in Washington state
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 5 жыл бұрын
Whats with everyone bitching about smashing their pipe on a 2 stroke? Ive been riding my CR500 around in the woods for over a decade and it still has the factory pipe on it! No dents! What the hell are you running into? Go around or wheelie over it!
@motometrix1715
@motometrix1715 7 жыл бұрын
I ride a 2017 Ktm 250sxf 4 stroke I love it more than my 2 stroke
@Lloydy03
@Lloydy03 6 жыл бұрын
Are 2 strokes good for long distance? Thanks :)
@littlehumor4290
@littlehumor4290 8 жыл бұрын
Very well put! Best 2 vs 4 stroke video I've seen so far! I prefer 4 strokes though! But why have just 1 bike? Get both for different purposes
@beatsbytani7875
@beatsbytani7875 4 жыл бұрын
What store is this and where
@luzerino1124
@luzerino1124 6 жыл бұрын
The new 2 smokers are fuel injected right? (2019-2018 model)
@ericl113
@ericl113 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@lemoinexavier
@lemoinexavier 8 жыл бұрын
Nice interview. Just buy a Zoom H1 and a small mic (Audio Technica) and it will boost your vids. Anyway, thx!
@MrAwesome3.3.5
@MrAwesome3.3.5 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video ! But i still cant decide
@HankePanke
@HankePanke 8 жыл бұрын
buy both
@mtnseekerone
@mtnseekerone 7 жыл бұрын
One thing I have noticed with my 4-t is when your into the tight first gear picking through the exposed rocks hill climb trail for long periods they do tend to over heat. It has never boiled over on me but I have had to stop because of the heat the fan throws onto my right knee.
@colbytroutman2882
@colbytroutman2882 6 жыл бұрын
My first big bike was a 97 cr125 and I didnt know much about bikes at the time and when the top end went I got rid of it because I wasnt knowledgeable enough to rebuild. I had it for a lil over a year though and honestly did love the bike. Then after that I picked up my 04 Crf250 and it is a blast!! I like it and all but riding my buddys 2015 yz250f with the fuel injection i feel im missing out on some more and smoother power wich has made me not dislike the bike but think about other options. Then this past weekend I went to my other buddys 4th of july party and he has trails in his woods behind his house. Couldnt get my bike there so he lended me one of his many bikes. I picked out the 99 yz250 wich ive ever ridden a 250 2 stroke before n I'm glad I asked to ride it because I forgot how much fun the 2 strokes were, and on top of that it felt more torqy than my bike with I loved even though Im not a HUGE fan of the instant hit of power when the power band comes in I got used to it and started to ri like it was my own bike. So now I'm looking for another 2 stroke so I'll have both!
@brendanmichaud2683
@brendanmichaud2683 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, that's Valley Motorsport in West Kelowna!
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