Mistweaver 11.1 Changes - First Impressions

[@AudiuX]

thank you, i briefly heard about these and the changes looked much more severe at first glance, but you explained it much better.

[@athier5898]

love your content, thank you for putting out this :)

[@crushingbelial]

Was hoping to get your comments on these changes. The improvement to single mob will be so nice

[@Lhurka]

A rough/quick calculation of old vs new damage of Jade Empowerment(JE) and Blackout Kick(BK) results in the following: BK 1 target: 100% vs 175% BK 2 target: 170% vs 210% BK 3 target: 240% vs 245% JE 1 target: 900% vs 2100% JE 2 target: 1800% vs 2625% JE 3 target: 2700% vs 3150% JE 4 target: 3600% vs 3675% JE 5 target: 4500% vs 4200%

[@bun5118]

Great commentary! I was wondering if we can expect to have your importable 11.1 talent tree changes in time for the eventual launch day? I've greatly appreciated the doc you have as an all-in-one resource.

[@Megasett]

Yeah I'll have them all available! I forgot to mention in the video but I am migrating everything from the google doc over to my new website and the google doc will no longer be updated: www.wayofthecrane.io All of the same info will be on the site though!

[@EASTSIDEDELI]

whatever that comment about fox cooking in the kitchen went over my head haha. These seem like nice changes!

[@Megasett]

Fox does a ton of theory crafting for Chi-ji specifically, she's our bird specialist 🩷

[@strifer81]

Changes look great

[@cyborgtemplar1989]

even better. i'll be able to chi-ji heal in raid. while likely still worse than it's alternative the gap won't be as large. . . and since I mostly just do heroic, the heal checks aren't so severe that i need a full ramp setup unless the other healers are twiddling their thumbs. . . which can sometimes happen.

[@SenipLuff]

Emperor's favour is so nice for pvp you're completely right, 90% of the time it's single target only there already & now you can't get kicked on it as well? 10/10 ty blizz, especially now that we have rising wind kick and we don't have to put ourselves in as bad positions to take advantage of half the class's toolkit anymore MW is looking better than ever for arena!

[@playjerise600]

with one more talent in the final row, any chance we could drop a talent for invokers delight? They all so required, not sure we can. would be nice though.

[@sombrego2260]

Crazy idea but what about fixing major bugs that are in the game for years and make some capstone talents not work at all in some situations? If you take the Tea boosting enveloping mist at the same time as you have Chi-Ji stack you lose both buffs which is silly and you can lose all stacks of the tea when you have 2 on enveloping which is 100% a bug. Same with the tea boosting renewing mist the buff is being lost through rapid diffusion procs and does nothing it's just a net loss making the talent abysmal to use whenever rapid diffusion is chosen (which is almost always). The tea talents are already not competitive at all it's really frustrating that they don't even bother debugging them when these bugs have been there since DF beta.

[@daztora]

Unlimited Powah!

[@GoinginsanefromFUT]

I do wonder if chi ji will be seen in raid due to these changes

[@Megasett]

Hopefully! Need to wait for PTR to test

[@Duck4Evers]

Does this put us in any position to fistweave in raids?

[@Megasett]

Potentially, but we'll need PTR to come up to see any raid impacts

[@Diphyidae]

I don't know about the SG changes. It feels really weird to give us a ST heal when our ST healing is kind of absurdly powerful already. SG this season has felt kinda like a wet noodle AOE heal, I have been considering taking shaohao in many of my keys because other CDs almost always give me better bang for my buck. With the planned CJL changes, I assume that will be a pretty damn good short cd AOE heal.... I have been finding myself kinda wishing they would move SG to something that mitigates group damage for some time depending on the number of clouds you cast it at.

[@johnd2946]

Think of it as a 30ish second lay on hands in PVP.

[@Fotumain13]

Jade Empowerment seems like a way for us to find more dps as a healer in raid. I don't know if it's channel would be worth it though healing wise, we have so many ways to pump out healing in raid right now. I feel like channeling this is just an HPS loss. So in the situation you actually take this talent (in keys), it's a numerical nerf, which doesn't feel great.

[@09Kadaj]

Just tell me fistweaver is gone pls.

[@Megasett]

Would recommend a different healer if you don't want to be in melee 👍

[@Alesz15]

This has been the doom of Hpal balance for a long time as well, trying to please the casters. You guys have 5 other specs to choose from, come on.

[@SirPhilMcCrackinVonBeggington]

@@Megasett But why not have two viable healing options for MW? I love caster monk. We have an incredible spell book with the best single target direct heals in the game and OP mitigation 6% damage reduction while channeling soothing mist--and I don't even get to use these as my standard rotation--how does that make sense? In DF I would fistweave in M+ (and trash pulls in raid), but then I had a viable caster build for single target / bosses in raid. Especially now with the Hero talent system it would be even easier and more logical to have one set of Hero talents designed for a caster build, and the other set for fistweave build. Look if we were pumping tons of damage, then I would be more willing to accept fist weaving. But I have to concentrate so hard on my stupid little rotation as MW to achieve C-tier damage, meanwhile my disc priest and even resto sham do more damage (with less gear) with way less thought put into it.

[@09Kadaj]

@@Megasett REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@Chun-1208]

@@SirPhilMcCrackinVonBeggington But you still play mistweaver because its more fun!