Melty Blood Type Lumina - 10 essential gameplay tips to know

Melty Blood Type Lumina is out and of course as with any fighting game it can be hard to navigate! So on top of the beginners guide we have made, have these 10 essential tips covering easy to advanced material to help you on your journey!
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - Make use of your offensive options!
2:30 - Charged moves
5:23 - Look at that command list!
7:20 - Use the macros
9:26 - You are not as safe as you think you are jumping
10:52 - Activations on defense
12:52 - Easy overheads for everyone
15:31 - Shield wars
17:36 - Guaranteed shield punishes
19:48 - Shield isn't perfect
23:47 - The forbidden tip
24:34 - In closing
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[@rooflemonger]

So continuing on with our coverage of Melty Blood Type Lumina, how about the classic 10 essentials tip guide! Covering topics from easy to advanced, these tips should help you on your melty journey. Beware the forbidden tip...

[@Swishcoe]

8bitdo 9th of August is available at any way of this month or the first first 🤔 in 😀 years 😳 😀 🤔 😉 😄 😬 😳 😀 🤔 😉 😄 😬 😳 😀 🤔 😉 😄 😬 😳 the the 😀 😄 ❤ 🤣 😜

[@Swishcoe]

9th grade 6oz

[@rooflemonger]

Alright with this bad boy out that should be enough "basic" guides for the moments unless you guys want me to tackle a very specific subject I haven't already. So maybe a combo guide or two in the next few days? Once TGS is finished there's a lot I want to talk about for KoF 15 with all this new gameplay footage dropping as well cause theres so much interesting stuff! Also there may be Strive news soon, so we gotta wait and see on that one.

[@sarvag13]

Loving the melty blood stuff roofle! Also thanks for more kof stuff! I was gonna say the new videos from people dropping are so much more exciting than the official tournament at tgs and there's so many fun things to talk about kof 15! Would love to see it!

[@lumiverinightstar228]

I would like something answered that I haven't been able to find if you think it's worth answering, either by video or just reply here, I don't know how much it affects other characters but anyway. So color customization, I have seen Roa's lightning be 3 different variations, normal violet, gold with violet hit effects and straight gold. I have done extensive testing to make sure it's not a p1-p2 thing or costume selection specific, it definitely seems to be connected to the palette choices, however I have changed each one 1 one by 1 and I still can't find what option or option(s) affects it. I personally would love black or red lightning but I've only seen violet, gold and or violet+gold mix. You happen to know what specific options affect it, and as well what other characters may have their energy or attack colors affected by palette choices and perhaps some sort of way to identify which ones matter to it? Because I was never able to pinpoint which ones change Roa's lighting :/

[@AbhinavRamana]

Excited for strive News

[@commdaofgc]

4:36 That Kohaku tip is a gamechanger, especially since I'm so bad at hit confirming supers

[@henryschumann8460]

Thank you for making content about fighting games in a kind, genuine and detailed way. It's been helping me a lot in GG and in MBTL!

[@rooflemonger]

Happy to be of help!

[@abdelrahmanalaa2340]

Was playing warframe casually Then asked random teammate To recommend a game with good community and he recommended this Glad i found it . Plus your way of explaining is amazing Only if teachers will teach us like this. Nice vedio bro 🌹

[@coldestbeenie1823]

This is the most intuitive and creative combo system I've ever seen n in a fighting game. There's no need for autocombos if it works like you would imagine: just do one move after another! No long strings to remember, you make your own strings! And also being able to charge moves? Gosh I love this, it almost feels more like an action game than a fighter to my feeble brain, haha - I'm so excited to get my hands on this!

[@Kintaku]

Man you’re working hard. Thank you so much for putting me onto this game’s characters. Purchased it today and I’m having a ton of fun! These videos are helping a lot with the basics. This game is daunting at first.

[@wingmage1]

Thanks for the video! I recall the in-game tutorial explaining most of these things, but none of it stuck when reading through it. Watching examples really helped my understanding!

[@jamesminer7398]

Omg i didnt know about the plant growing. You always teach me something new. Thank you 😁

[@KINOSWAGMONEY]

Moon drive on wakeup is a meme for a reason its so strong

[@rooflemonger]

Its honestly not anything out of the ordinary, but for people without a lot of previous fighting game experience I guess its fresh and exciting haha.

[@KINOSWAGMONEY]

@@rooflemonger I mean pause buttons like chain shift (and YRC or even VT to some extent i guess) are really strong in general, just by virtue of the fact that they stop everything and let you assess the situation calmly which is pretty hard to come by in high pressure fighting games

[@bairsensei7496]

I did every mission in the tutorial even the advanced still wasn't ready this game is insane lol

[@cadenkillgore6244]

The melty blood videos are a huge help so far I picked it up on switch to have a fighting game to play while out and about and I’d be pretty lost without your videos

[@rooflemonger]

Happy to be of help!

[@Sadeyo1]

lol, that last tip came out of nowhere. Did not know about that at all. I'm literally mashing training room and comprehending the mechanics all over again. Your videos are really helping out and has been fun over the last few years. Kudos to Saber reveal on out last talk. No worries if you forgotten me.

[@johnhurley8918]

Roofl really is the week one fighting game content champ

[@phdbot4483]

A lot of these stuff sound very useful! They'll especially help for those who are struggling against the shields. I also very like the Forbidden tech you showed us! >:3

[@YoraiDragon]

Bruh, these melty vids are incredibly informative. Thank you very much.

[@n64central]

Thanks for all these videos you make, this will help players from years to come. Hope to see you stream it soon.

[@andrewjones1395]

Little mistake I saw, at 11:22, you say the heat burst is unsafe on block. It's actually *Unblockable* but can be *Shielded* against. And since blocking and shielding are two very different things, it's worth clarifying. I thought it was a big deal!

[@rooflemonger]

yeah my bad on that, I was trying to get across you can get blown up for it if it gets read

[@justinramsey1041]

Roofle I always love your guides, they help me so much with fighting games. Pleaseeee Saber combo guide or maybe even tips and tricks !

[@marcpmas]

Very helpful. Thanks!!!

[@xxwallzxx4509]

Thank you. Always helpful.

[@IiOnna222]

That was legit good tips.

[@VergilMustDie666]

I love your vids man, always learn something from them.

[@juicywewe2176]

That forbidden tip is just GOLDEN

[@leandrodavid6256]

Thank you! Awesome tips

[@semja]

Whoa I didn't realize ground to air was so strong! Interesting and honestly realistic detail

[@tempo9735]

I like your intro, so chill

[@aura_demon]

Love your videos

[@rainer9931]

Man I can't wait to pick this up. It'll be soon for sure. Kohaku is probably my second favorite fighting game character if all time (behind Faust), even though I've only scarcely played Melty, so this is going to be my first serious foray into the series. Probably gonna have to get up on Tsukihime too. I hope Ufotable does a Tsukihime anime at some point for sure.

[@MischievousSnake]

I've seen some helpful videos but this is probably the best yet. Thanks for making this guide.

[@rooflemonger]

Happy to be of help!

[@emibla8571]

I loved this game. Its my first one in the series but so far I am really really enjoined

[@earthquakenate]

Funny Thing. I bought this and slowly went through the tutorial to learn the mechanics. It really made me appreciate Underknight and BlazBlue. When I first bought them I didn't have the patience to learn the meter mechanics. After playing Melty Blood Tutorial all 3 made a lot more sense and seem a lot more interesting... But it also makes me wish games like Mk11 and DBFZ had the same level of depth.

[@grantgarbour]

I think you covered shield's weaknesses very well. A lot of players are struggling to beat it right now. I think it's also important to note that the A, B, B+C are not the only shield follow-ups that are available. For instance if you shield a jump in and think they'll shield back or delay shield you could instead choose to go for like a 2A instead of interacting with the canned mixup. Or when shielding a grounded option and the opponent stops and is looking for retaliation you can run up and throw them. Or if you jump in and shield a ground to air option and think they may try to engage on the shield war. Instead of going for a left/right mixup you can turn it into a high/low mixup by either going for shield counter A or hitting the ground and going for a 2A. Of course these options have their counterplay too but often the most reward you gain is from an option that you wouldn't even think of having just completed the tutorial. And very important when shielding projectiles you don't always have to Counter B. The opponent will be looking specifically for this option. Why not dash shield them until they least expect it then hit them with a Shield B+C or then use a sneaky Shield B when they don't expect it. You don't always have to choose an option, shield into nothing is completely viable

[@NightYorah]

The shielding can be interesting and fun sometimes but the constant amount of RPS that you have to play is somewhat annoying. All the options you suggested also depend on guesses. Cant wait for lab monsters to make lots of anti-shield oki.

[@NightYorah]

Oh and this doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the game. Having an absolute blast so far but just a little gripe

[@grantgarbour]

@@NightYorah having a defensive option to always worry about can be draining but I also find it very enjoyable. Especially since my opponent whiffing their shield usually ends with me either getting a good confirm or a strong throw. And the lab monsters already have a lot of OSs floating around twitter lol. In most fg there is nothing you can do to minimize constant guessing or reading your opponent. I don't think it's necessarily a flaw

[@plabcentral630]

The maid combo are my favorite character so far

[@lumiverinightstar228]

I started with the duo, after seeing how to play red arc I finally went to maining her like I wanted. After seeing the forbidden tech.....well now I guess I'm maining all 3 of them.

[@Squittles_UwU]

Bro this guy sounds like a dad trying to explain something he's really passionate about.

[@rooflemonger]

I will force the world to like fighting games as much as I do

[@thesufferingpariah]

16:37 you have another option other than delay shield, you can mash out 3C launcher to beat the shield vanish. So if you're 1P side mash 1C. This only works if they shielded a grounded light move or projectile from range tho, something with fast recovery.

[@crd5980]

Ty

[@ArbiterChrono]

I am bad at game but I like shield cause shield reminds me of soul calibur guard impact and guard impact wars are HYPE.

[@TheDuckofLaw]

This is a really wild game - I'm into it though.

[@BeeLy1011]

I'm guessing we both had the same idea with that Mai Natsume custom for Noel 👀

[@yodadeePS3]

Thx

[@JasonDS64]

I'm finding this game incredibly frustrating right now so I'll keep these things in mind.

[@paulnoell39]

I have noticed that the B-attack from shielding successfully can be beaten by a delayed DP, as well as a delayed shield like you suggested. Idk if its practical though

[@internetmovieguy]

Also 3C

[@Ganobrator]

3C is the move

[@rooflemonger]

@@internetmovieguy be warned 3c has no invincibility properties. Sometimes the hitboxes are just good for beating a shield B but if timing is any kind of off you will get blown up.

[@isaachill7900]

I hope you do character break downs like guilty gear your vids are the best.

[@tyrone6]

Im a begginer but i have alot of fighting game experience but as easy as it seems im in the process oftrying to learn combos other than auto combo starter

[@sighyawn6378]

Noel rebeat pressure to try for anyone new to this mechanic... 2B>5C>2C>5Awhiff>2C>5C>2B>5Awhiff. due to her 5C having a vacuum effect on block you can create longer rebeat strings mid screen than other characters by using 5C to pull them in for more pressure. once you get the flow for how your character rebeats you should just be able to improvise these. also the way to beat rebeating is by mashing on the whiffs but this has to be done predictably not reactively. if they try to shield out of this after you whiff then just play reactively after whiffing rather than continuing pressure. be sure to mix up where your whiffed 5As and 2As are to stay unpredictable.

[@groudon2006]

So the activation process is basically a burst but only works to get the opponent off while blocking, that would work wonder if getting hit in a combo as well

[@njnjhjh8918]

I would like to know more about Moon Drive activation invincibility, because I keep failing that particular tutorial mission (most of the time), it's pretty easy to just use 22B to stop Ciel, having to activate moon drive first makes it really hard

[@grayshadow2597]

I usually do the normal way and not setting up macros because I just simply doesn’t want to move my fingers

[@trulydumb506]

Kohaku is my favorite ^_^

[@TheLonelyMoon]

the game has a low entry point and pretty high skill ceiling, I really enjoy this one

[@garou119]

Miyako guide when?

[@bairsensei7496]

Best guides in the fgc

[@cyneawyngaelhove2483]

I thought I wouldn't like melty blood as much as guilty gear strive but I was very wrong because I like it more even though I've just been on a massive loss streak and have no idea what I'm doing because the game feels so free.

[@JazzyFiz]

I just don't like how if you press macro dash and then do it again immediately a move comes out

[@noah__jd4883]

Hey rooflemonger I'm a big fan. I have a big question to you or anybody else who will help me understand. Why should you not shield on wakeup if you think they are going for a strike? Let me walk you through my thought process, this isnt rhetorical. Low shield beats mid and low. What else does that? Low block. What do you get from low block? Nothing. What do you get from low shield? RPS or a moon metered return to neutral. High shield beats mids and high. What else does that? You get where I'm going. If you get hit for guessing wrong on block, you get hit. If you block when they go for a grab, you get grabbed. If you get hit for guessing wrong on shield, you get fatal countered, but how much more damaging are fatal counters? This is what I'm missing, why is getting fatal countered so much worse than just getting hit? I get it gives them more moon meter, but this doesn't seem like very big deal at the moment. Getting grabbed out of shield only adds like 300 damage to the grab. In BB, fatal counters added more hit stun to the whole combo, that's kinda what I want from fatals. I hope my comment ages like milk. I really am not having fun right now with the shield stuff. I think the risk reward is not properly balanced. Send help, thanks in advance.

[@rooflemonger]

Shield on wakeup auto loses to whichever direction you didn't shield, and now you can't recover or react in time to block the other, and automatically loses to throws. You fight someone like me whose primary action is throw anyways, and you gonna learn real quick shield can't save you.

[@noah__jd4883]

Ok, so I need more ambiguous crossups is what I'm getting from that, I'll try that,

[@QuasiGame0]

How do you dash forward and do a 236motion without having a 623 output to the game I'm trying to do Miyako 236B Oki

[@rooflemonger]

thats a really good question I don't have an answer for right now. The usual trick is dash, then half circle forward and the other inputs wipe the dash out of the buffer so you just get normal qcf in the end, but that doesn't work in this game.

[@noah__jd4883]

Quasi, after screwing around in training mode with Miyako, I found out after you dash that she continues to run for quite a distance even after you let go of forward. So dash forward, then return your motion input to neutral, then do 236. This works even if you do it really quick. 6AB, 5 for at least 5 frames it seems, 236B. Let me know if that helps!

[@noah__jd4883]

4 frames of neutral input will wipe the buffer, just confirmed

[@QuasiGame0]

@@noah__jd4883 you sir 🙏 are a Saint! Just tested in match and for sure works, didn't realise the dash continued like that

[@noah__jd4883]

@@QuasiGame0 glad to help man, i triple checked btw and if you want to dash at close range and 236, a 4 frame neutral input is the fastest way to clear the cache

[@Lianh16]

Why would anyone play Hisui or Kohaku alone instead of playing both in one character? I haven't found quite a disadvantage in relation to having the solo character yet

[@hyperbison]

Still on the fence about this

[@LEGENDARY11GAMER]

rooflemonger super duper godlike melty blood type lumnia top ten tips. as a newcomer to melty blood type lumnia. at the current moment i am currently still paying tutorial mode with each character. the combos if you do the same moves does damage scale was unknown. by doing reverse beats was unknown that can't combo into auto combos. only standing shield can block a standing charge move was unknown. Quick Questions how about a charged overheard does standing shield work or crouching shield ??? how about air charge moves does air shield block air charged moves ???

[@aidanista]

“If you’re watching this 6 months down the line when everything’s been solved-“ Me, just downloading the game 4 days ago: 👁

[@MCrknight777]

Just wondering isn't an iad+button an over head?

[@rooflemonger]

yep any iad+button is an overhead but its super easy to see and if they crouch you will go over their heads on the other side if its not in the corner

[@IOTewks]

Easier universal overhead is 9 Dash C, no?

[@CrossfacePanda]

I’m just a viewer of the game for now rather than a player, but from what I’ve seen the Shield doesn’t look too strong to me. It could do with just a sliver more nuance tho, perhaps (which could very well develop by itself from people just playing the game more). Like, maybe add just a teeny tiny more recovery frames on a Shield whiff, and a little more still the longer you hold it. And perhaps down the road add another attack option out of it. But overall it seems fine to me. Gonna get exciting once more players start doing nothing out of Shield to whiff punish an opponent’s counter Shield attempt. And then the opponent start countering the “do nothing” with a throw. Etc, etc, fighting game mind games

[@rooflemonger]

Shield is a good catchall, and for anyone whose never played soul calibur before(guard impact) they probably never seen anything like it. That said I do find it kinda fun so many people think its "broken"

[@Blumist]

Can someone recommend me the best button layout for ps4 controllers?

[@brianhoey8819]

R1 - A+B R2 - B+C L1 - A+C L2 - A+B+C Right Analouge - A+B+C+D Works for me. Main one is R1 for the dash macro that is very important

[@rotonek2887]

Its really hard to get out of the corner... especially on vlov

[@rooflemonger]

That's the thing I guess, vlov very much designed around the fact he's got no defense besides whats universal cause he's got the best screen control in the game

[@SanSanFTW]

I love you roof But I need the K' trailer breakdown. Ik the lore I just want to hear your cliff notes version lol

[@rooflemonger]

That came at the worst possible time with so much other stuff happening + a whole new game. At this point K' will just have to get his when I do the big lore videos doing the orochi/nests/ash sagas before launch. I know its not the best answer but this is a point where I gotta pick and choose videos cause theres not enough time for everything.

[@SanSanFTW]

@@rooflemonger I get it. I got melty w couple days ago and your guides have been helping out as always. Do you man

[@zman8471]

I hate the shield exchanges in this game. If I shield your shield attack you shouldnt be able to shield again

[@TheNobleFive]

I agree with your comment about shielding too many times in one exchange, but the best way to kill shield spam is to just shield WITHOUT doing a standard counterattack and possibly just grab.

[@pauljung9620]

melty shield type lumina

[@rooflemonger]

well watch this video cause thats tip #10, it aint all powerful

[@rookbranwen8047]

what's in that water?!

[@rooflemonger]

the good stuff

[@defrost97]

I suck at this game

[@Zenbon111]

more guy characters pls

[@TheAciditty]

This game gave me Carpal Tunnel. You are constantly hitting buttons so much.

[@phipy1823]

monstrositree

[@bairsensei7496]

I cant beat Noel players at all she needs a nerf tbh

[@Aventurine4lyfe]

@ ps4 players, what's the population looking like right now?...

[@Gurnel]

First

[@rooflemonger]

🐵

[@crunchio]

I love the content, but that incredibly breathy intro makes me feel exhausted

[@naeem7615]

First

[@rooflemonger]

🐵

[@naeem7615]

@@rooflemonger jokes aside, how does the balancing feel mr. monger? 🤔 I know it’s literally been a day but are there any clear top tiers? I’ve seen a lot of people playing Maids and Red Arc.

[@rooflemonger]

@@naeem7615 everyone seems like they got the dirt so everyone feels strong. Its more a matter of whose even more crazy powerful than the usual crazy powerful, which will probably take some time to shake out