Men of Steel: My Adventures with Superman Season 2 w/ Red and Blue from Overly Sarcastic Productions

With the second season of My Adventures with Superman concluded, Case and Jmike are once again joined by Red and Blue from Overly Sarcastic Productions to reflect on it.
And make sure you check out Red and Blue's channel: ‪@OverlySarcasticProductions‬
Men of Steel Full Episode
Originally aired: AUGUST 16, 2024
Edited and Scored by Geoff Moonen
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[@Falconwing66]

I love the sequence of Lois and Clark escaping the Black Mercy because it speaks to the heart of Superman stories as Red put it: finding the correct problem and punching it, in this case the sky.

[@therussiancomicbookgeek]

It’s great you guys are the only show that talks Superman lore stuff🙂

[@certainpovmedia]

Put Red and I on a call and we'll get into ALL the lore!

[@EmrysMerlin8807]

The secret 4th Detail Diatribe

[@certainpovmedia]

@@EmrysMerlin8807 we're just lucky Red and Blue are cool enough to join us for these!

[@EmrysMerlin8807]

@@certainpovmedia I found you guys as a result of the first MAwS video. I've watched a few others since.

[@certainpovmedia]

Thank you for checking our stuff out! It really means a lot that so many people have found us since the first MAWS episode!

[@pining_tree6788]

I guess they’re making Deathstroke have the messiest Divorce with Lex huh

[@kiabil6194]

I can hardly wait for the secret 5th Detail Diatribe after season 3. HAHAHA

[@FiggityJones]

Personally in terms of Clark not hearing the rest of Lois’ statement even though he has superhearing I think of it like this: just like we can focus our attention on certain things and listen more closely, Clark can do the same with his hearing. He doesn’t always have it “turned on.” I think he’s often listening for certain emergency words with it, but he doesn’t just hear everything, all the time. And he had begun leaving from that situation so he stopped listening to that conversation. I think its fine personally and I think it would be weirder for him to have heard it because his superhearing were always on, which I don’t think is how it works. Nor do I think it should be how it works. All that being said, I do understand being annoyed by the trope of “Character hears the negative bit, leaves, then the positive bit is said.” I get that that is an annoying trope 😅 I just think functionally it can still happen even with Superman.

[@certainpovmedia]

@@FiggityJones totally! I almost said something devils advocate-y there but didn't want to derail the conversation - Case

[@FiggityJones]

@@certainpovmedia Very understandable 😅 also just want to say love your podcasts and Red & Blue as well! Thank you for the reply 😊

[@certainpovmedia]

@@FiggityJones happy to chime in! Thanks for listening!

[@thatlycantomboy]

I'm late but GOD SUPERGIRL FANS (ME) WERE EATING GOOD THIS SEASON. Ugh, my daughter. I love her so much thank you MAWS team for doing a great take on her she did such a good foil. can't wait for everything they've got planned in season 3

[@MostLikelyMortal]

I was recommended the season one pod FOUR HOURS AGO, finished it, and was immediately recommended this one. Hell yas

[@certainpovmedia]

@@MostLikelyMortal watched it just under the wire, given its length! Thanks for checking these out! - Case

[@icefirepokemon]

Thank you Blue for talking about the boob window Superman gets when Brainiac takes him over!

[@taneelbrightblade6622]

“That’s a whole different rant,” I remember that rant and quite enjoyed it

[@Camo1177]

21:06 I love the interview that Watchtower Database did with one of the lead writers right after the end of the last season and one of the WD boys said something about how we are gonna see Zod in season 2, and the writer said ‘well we saw a Kryptonian, we don’t know who exactly that is’ and the boys just kinda laughed it off. They literally said it wasn’t Zod months ago and no one believed them.

[@certainpovmedia]

We didn't want to believe!

[@an8strengthkobold360]

I think there's a good chance Braniac destroyed whatever planet the parademons are native to, leading the survivors (who can quickly repopulate since they're basically bugs) to side with darkseid.

[@certainpovmedia]

@@an8strengthkobold360 I like that headcanon

[@pining_tree6788]

I think they would introduce a lantern before they introduce Batman (ignoring Bruce possibly doing an Alex and stealth introduction) because the Braniac stuff included involved the eradication of at least of green lantern. It would give Superman the opportunity to show more facets of himself while also forcing Supergirl to process parts of the massacres she’s commited

[@certainpovmedia]

@@pining_tree6788 I'm here for Superman meeting the Corps!

[@Vespuchian]

Back when season 1 ended I made the bold statement that the biggest splash the show could make in S2 would be for General Lane to contact Hal Jordan (I also said 'Hal' should be short for 'Haley' because there have been how many Lanterns from Earth and only one or two have been women? Come on!). I was wrong about it happening in season 2 but I agree properly introducing the Corps is something they should totally do.

[@SarahExpereinceRequiem]

Oh wait. What if the second zero day invasion wasn't Brainiac's fleet but it was Zod leading the Kryptonian fleet out of the Phantom Zone and one of the next two seasons will be dealing with letting the Kryptonians out and dealing the the fallout of them being trapped in the phantom zone for twenty years.

[@edwardstafford2234]

Loved season 2 (just finished it today) and the analysis here was amazing! I don't know if it's my particular brand of brain rot but Kara was giving me serious Adora vibes and I loved every second of it.

[@certainpovmedia]

@@edwardstafford2234 thank you for listening!

[@matt0044]

I think there’s a Trope Talk in discussing miscommunication as well as the differences between writing that frustrates you because it’s bad versus because it is good. Like I feel the latter is a divide that is never acknowledged.

[@zegenrenerd930]

I thought the argument Lex was making at the symposium when the tech was destroyed was meant to further emphasize his "what if Superman ever chose to side against us" bit from earlier. Like, "The items destroyed today were the most advanced offensive and defensive tech. And even when helping, he just tears through it like tissue paper. Does this not raise red flags for anyone else?" Like, he's still wrong. But i thought he was teying to back up his what if

[@daelen.cclark]

If Superboy is brought into Season 3, it’ll be kinda funny to have Kon explain why he has Tactile Telekinesis and some of them mistake it for textile.

[@TraceyTra-kv1xe]

It's batman beyond again. Terry is vary cool but seeing him with other heros makes a really good contrast.

[@bucketspree4952]

I absolutely loved the first commentary y'all had and was eagerly awaiting the release of this episode. I agree on many points, but also would like to bring up not only do they have the Lois Lane multiverse subplot but they have all the other "bad" supermen to bring in, which I assume would be a major plot point of season 3. Also regarding Brainiac 5 (sorry I'm not super versed in the lore), they did recover his core "brain" or whatever that canister was, so they did leave it open to restoring him in some form (maybe as they get the Fortress of Solitude again?) All in all I felt they left enough things open-ended that they won't really have any issues with season 3, and it seems popular enough to warrant another season after that if necessary (I know for sure I'll be tuning in!) Anyway love the podcast and y'all have some great insights, Red and Blue and everyone

[@josephivenegas]

18:20 "AND CAST IT INTO HELL" ... My mind went straight to Apokolips when I heard that 💀

[@matt0044]

I love how Season 2 was where they saw they wouldn’t be Siri for kids and thought they’d dip into the swear words to test the waters.

[@gjueng290]

Brainiac and the Kryptonian robots remind me of the original design for Zeta from the Zeta Project cartoon that was a Batman Beyond spinoff. His design is more humanoid in the series, but in the Batman Beyond episode that originally introduced him, he's got the V head and that design was also used in a Justice League episode

[@certainpovmedia]

@@gjueng290 oh nice comparison!

[@petermann673]

29:00 Ok that'd make for a fun Bruce contrast for s3. 😂 He has absolutely awful instincts. But everything around him is telling him to be something he's not and it generally works out pretty well. But every time he listens to his instincts, it all goes wrong. Thus reinforcing he's at his best as a detective.

[@josh--el]

I thought the not knowing Zor-El was a result of Braniac's selective memory wiping

[@certainpovmedia]

@@josh--el I was just surprised that she had no idea who the name was, but minor issue - Case

[@CasualFox12495]

So, when do we get the Detail Diatribe ep on the decades long debate; Goku vs Superman.

[@BenFranklin89]

What if, going with the Future Trunk Superboy, they do Legion of Super Heroes coming to warn abiut an incoming threat? Literally Android Saga but Superman.

[@certainpovmedia]

@@BenFranklin89 LOVE IT! - Case

[@BenFranklin89]

@@certainpovmedia You can even start it with a Cyborg attack since Hank Henshaw was in one of the planes Brainiac blew up. Lex fixes him up & maybe since we didn't get comic Metallo combine his Kryptonite power source with Cyborg Superman.

[@josephivenegas]

8:37 IT'S GREEN LANTERN MYTHOS. CLARK IS HOPE. KARA IS RAGE.

[@certainpovmedia]

Certainly looks that way from the aura but we'll have to see!

[@josephivenegas]

And I'd *LOVE* to see Lois with a Green Lantern ring... but this girl needs to solve her parental issues arc _before_ unlocking Cosmic WILLPOWER. Probably in the final episode of the season, all magical anime-like, you know what I mean. Swipes it from a butthurt Lex to add insult to injury.

[@seanfulldark]

Hey just because they have a Bat embargo doesn't mean they don't have a multibillionaire embargo with dead parents a mysterious cave incredibly wealthy oh wait I already said that? Either that or we get our first barry cameo I guess we'll just have to allen it? Nah I'm feeling a little jayed?

[@mariacoyle4416]

I really hope they don’t do a Lois and Clark future kid things for at least a couple seasons. Like if they want to bring in a super boy they have a simple way of doing it by bringing in the clone version of the character, which actually is the version of the character that I am more interested in, at least at this time. It just feels too early to start doing time travel.

[@lovelyunknown]

Id love to see cameos but im happy for more cute superman fam shenanigans

[@certainpovmedia]

@@lovelyunknown can you imagine how they'll handle Krypto?

[@an8strengthkobold360]

I'd argue both invincible and superman are just doing Dragonball.

[@daelen.cclark]

Your dad’s a writer? Cool! Explains a lot. What’s he written?

[@Notmyday2009]

We see Armor krytonian get disingegrated what is heavily implied to be omega beam. So 100 apocalypse met the Empire it found it mediocre.

[@Plzinsertnameplz]

Would the whole "being in the phantom zone" thing screw up kryptonians since i'd assume the phantom zone doesn't have a sun.

[@certainpovmedia]

@@Plzinsertnameplz I think their physical form is kind of in stasis (at least in other versions). Take Mon-El for example: he's also solar powered and exhibited no impact to his powers from long exposure to the Phantom Zone

[@Plzinsertnameplz]

@@certainpovmedia it would be neat if krypton is in disrepair in the phantom zone if the kryptonians don't keep their powers, since I'd imagine that flight and superspeed would lead to public transport not being as developed. So the planet doesn't really have any public infrastructure since they never needed it before, so maybe they had a hard time adapting, not to mention that they would've been cut off from their mining colonies on other planets, meaning they couldn't get new resources.

[@acuteoctogon9303]

5:27 thoughts on kara 6:26 bruce wish 40:40 episode 2

[@ghostchannel4766]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS!

[@jadenbryant9283]

32:11 tbf you could make the argument that it parallels real-life immigration in some cases where you have to leave the place where you're from because of it being bad I guess and Jake Wyatt said in an AMA that apparently Krypton was both idyllic and hellish. 58:49 Eh there are still villains just their relationship is now more of that of a friendly enemy relationship I presume I think. btw there is a tie-in comic that's coming out go read it.

[@therussiancomicbookgeek]

That thumbnail really makes Kara look thic

[@Plzinsertnameplz]

So wait, did brainiac kill all the green lanterns or just 1/a few of them?

[@certainpovmedia]

@@Plzinsertnameplz I took it as the Green Lantern of that particular civilization that Braniac conquered

[@Plzinsertnameplz]

@certainpovmedia that raises the question, were the abilities the brain scan version of them were using just digital versions/approximations of the real green lantern powers. Bcuz if they are a digital copy, it's a little bit vague if they have any will to exert. That and the tears made it seem like they didn't want to fight. So if they weren't willing to fight then how could their ring work. Idk it seems kinda weird. Maybe green lanterns function differently or smth.

[@backbiter8787]

Didn't Jor-El call the Kryptonian empire a "cancer"? Kinda feel like "Krypton was bad actually" WAS the point they were making, and it has annoyed me all season.

[@jamiee7367]

Jor-El's line is "The Kryptonian Empire had conquered and spread across the stars like a disease"

[@backbiter8787]

@@jamiee7367 Same thing really. Comparing a culture to a disease doesn't really leave much room for nuance or complication.

[@matt0044]

It does feel like a shame they were hoping to rectify. Think Omniman but he isn’t down with murder and tries to reform his people.

[@Wraithfighter]

The "Krypton is getting progressively worse" thing really is a thing that's been frustrating on a meta level. And yeah, its nothing new, Alan Moore's "For The Man Who Has Everything" depicted it as collapsing from social strife (albeit in Clark's Black-Mercy-Induced imagination), the Snyderverse emphasizing that Krypton's Eugenicist ways had led to its own destruction, and the implications of MAWS that Krypton was a warmonger state in Season 1 (although that might just be misdirection)... It feels like writers just are failing to grasp that ***the destruction of Krypton is supposed to be tragic***. Its supposed to be a bad thing. This one refugee (okay, two refugees. Okay, two refugees, and a city, plus a dog...) is the only remnant of this lost civilization, who wants to uphold the ideals of his near-extinct civilization. Just saying, if Red might be looking at the comments here, this would be a fantastic Detail Diatribe subject to go on about. :D

[@certainpovmedia]

@@Wraithfighter we did an episode of Men of Steel at the beginning of the panini (so not posted to KZbin yet but eventually) on the fall of Krypton and the factors going into it. I agree, I'd love Red to offer her own exploration! - Case

[@jeremy1860]

I like Clark, don't get me wrong, but I've always felt that Kara was the more interesting character of the two of them 🤔

[@axolofa]

This season was fun, but my god the relationship stuff was kinda annoying. Jimmy and Kara have no chemistry, and Clark and Lois felt kinda formulaic and played out in their drama.