Men, Sex, and Kevin Samuels

We're kicking off season 6 with our brother, Ezekiel Azonwu. Listen in as Ezekiel and Preston give us a sneak peek of what to expect on their upcoming We Need To Talk Tour. Culture discourages men from being in community, and many men are confused about their call and spiritual giftedness. But guys are crying out for discipleship and voices in close proximity to them that will build them up. Let’s talk about it.
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[@asiarubin681]

Don’t treat that man how culture tells you he is, but treat him how God says he is👏🏾🗣️ A WORD! This was sooo good!

[@DanitaLBuckner]

Woah! Powerful

[@MrsMcCraney23]

Yes that was everything! 👏🏾👏🏾

[@alexiabailey6976]

The body is not interested....and we have become cold, lazy and waxed COLD.... especially towards our brothers. Feminist theory is subtlety flooding the church---the devil is rampant. *GOD BLESS YOU ALL FOR THIS DEEP DISCUSSION*

[@KeepHealingSis]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Blessed_Sound]

@@asiarubin681it’s a scam, don’t fall for it

[@angemarie12]

This is what my husband said: "I don't think it's as possible for a lot of male preachers to speak to the problems of men, because most male preacher's aren't conditioned to speak to their own problems. So I suspect it's easier for them to cater their messages to women." WORD.

[@blackmeccainc]

That is a word.

[@dolawilliams9609]

Agreed.

[@lovefelix1566]

True!

[@machiavellisprince5986]

Not only that, the women are right there, listening to them when they talk and they make up 90% of the audience. You’re going to feel like your sermons are bombing every time you talk about these issues. No amens.

[@lyrisgreenidge-adams5941]

They focus on the women issues because the women makes up the majority of the church and the most profitable market. Which is sad because the problem in marriage and the society stems from the issues that men have.

[@CharCharJars]

I don’t know who my husband is, but please LORD, allow him to have friends like this because he reflects this as well 🙌🏾🥰 Thank you for preparing me in advance in JESUS MIGHTY NAME, Amen

[@CJ-el9qq]

Amen!

[@peterhelao2164]

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[@peterhelao2164]

😊😊😊😊😮😊😊😮

[@peterhelao2164]

​@@CJ-el9qqooop😊😊l😅😅

[@peterhelao2164]

😊😊0😊of 😅

[@AJ56909]

“Men that have been broken want to deal with the type of broken women that don’t challenge their own brokenness but rather caters to their brokenness in a way that makes them feel superior or allows them to avoid or escape what they need to do to step up as a leader.” I’ve encountered this So Much!! That Really spoke to me!!! Thank u for this! So many gems!

[@sean3708]

It's not that men don't want to be challenged because men do that with each other all the time. It's that we don't want you to challenge us like men but rather like women. That's why Western men are looking to other women for wives, aka foreign women. Women have soft powers use it.

[@YahToldMe]

That was a whole word!!

[@rebelwithapurpose]

This was me in my broken marriage for 16 years but now I am free and doing the work necessary to attract what God has fornke

[@pbeyes100]

‼️‼️‼️

[@MattRomPsalms]

Man! This was literally the last guy I dated. To the t!

[@SpiritandProofPodcast]

Yall just saved my marriage.. Thank you 3 for giving my husband and I vocabulary and dialogue for our issues with intimacy 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽

[@SpiritandProofPodcast]

And most importantly, thank you JESUS. ❤

[@Debbysworld_]

​@@SpiritandProofPodcastyasss

[@brandi_w]

Praise THE LORD! 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾

[@RoniiiB]

Amen ❤❤❤❤❤ God bless you and your union 🎉

[@thelashmom]

Glory to God

[@cherleverne]

Jackie threw the Bible then sat back like “look at my man” 😂😂

[@ryanstan6943]

Righhhhhhttttt!!!! I love that!!

[@larapotter2159]

Yaaaaaaassssss…. I knew I wasn’t the only one watching her reaction to Preston 🗣️ that good word. It’s so freakin’ attractive, when a man is passionate about Jesus, their partner, and the kingdom.

[@stephanieadim5010]

I know 😂😭😭

[@avvondaparker4627]

Correct!!!😂

[@marciemae1980]

Yes that was so good! 😂😂😂 That made me chuckle 😅😅😅

[@TruthEpidemic]

"Make enough money to hire a maid, but marry your friend" Preston Perry 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@afroogs2354]

I am a single woman that felt trapped by genders wars and negative stereotypes to the point I felt like the dating pool was a waste land and there was no point trying. Then I quit social media 😂

[@laneicemitchell]

THIS!!!!!!!!!!

[@Widelene1]

Yes!! Decided to take a month IG break that turned into 2 months and might go even further bc I don’t really miss it or these gender wars

[@aprilaries164]

😂😂😂

[@Smarty2able]

I'm off social media because people don't value real connections anymore.

[@StopBeingVictimsItsNotGodly]

Same here. I gave up all social media almost 1 year and I’m not going back. The Kevin samuels red pill community made me feel I wasn’t worthy of nothing. I spend my time studying it going to church, best decision I’ve ever made.

[@arielprivott844]

Even when Jackie is breezing past a subject she be walking HEAVY! 😂 I love that.

[@ramonabridgett9058]

Facts!!

[@ezrasaudiobooks]

❤

[@eurasialove]

Preston : “RIP” Jackie: “peace is debatable “ Right out the gate y’all starting 😂😂😂 I love it!

[@mrsburton7911]

That 👏🏾cracked 👏🏾 me👏🏾 up😂😂

[@A_Notes]

Where do they start talking about KS

[@kingstrong5351]

"Peace is debatable", nothing about her saying that was Christ-like. This is why Men aren't in the church lol. This is suppose to be a "Christian" woman. She's not God, yet, she's saying "Peace is debatable" just because a Man spoke truths she didn't agree with. Trying to judge others for not "modeling" something while your actions aren't even modeling Christ is the ultimate Hypocrisy lol.

[@Reshae]

It was the silence afterwards too! 😂

[@killpaleface3279]

Bogus ungodly women or men would like or love it. Fake people hate the TRUTH KS was giving.

[@TestimonyTalkPodcast]

Y’all just saved my singleness by actually helping me prepare for marriage..❤

[@destineerocker8015]

Exactly !

[@LadoEste9]

I am in the same boat

[@nancybatal397]

Thiss

[@yenzid]

"Men need to be both lion and lamb" that was amazing.

[@marigoldcarter5995]

As a senior 70+, it's encouraging to see young people like these using their knowledge of the culture to uplift others. A wonderful gift from the Father ~~

[@PrincessAfrica3]

Amen ❤

[@bjteacher3721]

Amen.

[@imamerican3720]

Amen

[@northstar2621]

Is that your real name, Marigold? I love it

[@tramainebass3371]

I think more importantly is their understanding of scripture to combat what culture says we should do.

[@Krystalmoonrocks]

Seriously, this is the most healthiest conversation on sex I’ve heard in my entire life.

[@AM-mg7gj]

100 percent!

[@dawnashwood4611]

You clearly are the wounded that they were talking about. How on earth did you glean judgment from what that lady said.....but you did not say a peep as to what Preston and Ezekiel gave an entire synopsis on the brokenness of that man and how his dogma was not Christ-like......but you have an issue with what Jackie said? Peace is debatable.....because unfortunately, that man was not at peace at his big age. He did not live the things that he preached in any type of way and the reason some men resonated with him is via their shared brokeness......period. I thank God for Ezekiel, Preston and Jackie for this conversation.

[@SanctifiedSista117]

This conversation is looooong overdue and did NOT disappoint! While I deeply desire marriage, I am so grateful that I’m single at the moment and trusting God for a man who is healthy, healing, whole, and who has a healthy and godly perspective on men, women, sex, marriage, and relationships. There’s so much brokenness and division in the world, the culture, and the church because of the enemy, and I’m so glad we are trying to be part of the solution and not add to the problem!

[@Infinity-om1pl]

Wow you said this so well!!! Absolutely happy that I’m single for that same reason!

[@dtalilah]

You said it's actually what I've been thinking. I'm praying that God continues to shape and mold me and my husband-to-be what he desires for us to be. I've made enough mistakes on my own...I trust God🙏🏼

[@Angelinesekle]

21:13 whew you said that! When we joined the church, our Pastor recruited my husband to be on the media team and he’s been consistently going to church for 3 years never missing a Sunday unless we were on vacation or had family in town. He goes more than I do 😂he’ll be on 4 hours of sleep on two wheels at church on time ❤ we’re blessed to have a church where the men have a heavy presence in the church and our very involved. Their men’s ministry is 🔥

[@lmichelle80sbaby]

❤❤❤ This!!! This is what the ppl need!! God bless you & your family!

[@ebbypetes]

Men are complex, but simple. Beautifully created by God. Ive been guilty of putting men in a box because they're so strong and often times silent in their actions. Whew. Love this podcast.

[@cget]

What do you think makes us complex?

[@cybercowgirl5711]

@@cgetFor me, its the lack of self awareness lol You guys just don’t have a good framework for labeling your feelings and stuff. In my opinion 🩷 Not yalls fault - just the way society kinda formed you guys. Good News is Jesus has a lot to say about your value 💕

[@cget]

@@cybercowgirl5711 I respect that

[@Dexion845]

Men are not complex. Women are the ones who constantly shift according to the culture. Men respond to that. We are silent because we just want to keep our peace without having to argue.

[@ebbypetes]

@@cget I think it's the compartmental aspect of men. Men can get the job done despite being hurt if that makes sense. Which to me or just watching from the outside puzzles me. Makes me believe that sometimes men are strong and they don't need as much compassion because you guys process information and hardships way differently than women do. That's why I said I've been guilty of putting men in boxes and not seeing them as human as they are. Blew my mind.

[@ericacaines2529]

Pride is the issue. The women are prideful, the men are prideful and all down to the pastors are prideful. It is rare to see someone who wants to learn, who wants discipleship.

[@kaushitwakafidi]

💯

[@mkslim732]

Idk if it’s rare I think it just isn’t celebrated in culture

[@DanitaLBuckner]

It's not rare. The young people want for it but are turned away or they just don't have that option in their church. I hear it from women, but this is the first that I've heard it from men and it makes so much sense.

[@ericacaines2529]

@@mkslim732 I agree with this statement.

[@ellejaydee2764]

That’s a small way to think of it . What’s does someone that wants to learn look like on the surface ? Bc how would you know without having necessary conversations?

[@TianaNaz97]

I watched this video with my sister bc we were both cleaning around the house and realized we were watching the same video in our head phones. We watched the video together on the tv, talked for hours… and got very little done b4 our mom came home. 😅 Such a NEED conversation, so much to take away from it, even for woman.

[@Hype4Christ]

Such a beautiful moment ❤

[@user-er9hv4pl2u]

Divorce is never the way out, My wife and I have been having issues before I sort out help from a spiritual adviser,i wasnt going to let my marriage of 18years crash

[@user-er9hv4pl2u]

@LenParliament5 well not the orthodox way but i was referred by a friend to a spiritual adviser and healer

[@user-er9hv4pl2u]

@LenParliament5 her name is *Victoria Lee Hess* ,and she is a great spiritual adviser as well as caster

[@user-er9hv4pl2u]

you can look her name up online and you will find all you need.

[@missmytime]

This may be unpopular but I’ll share it anyways. The Bible says that whoever wants to be the greatest among us must be a servant. He also says that lording it over people (usually what a lot of men seem to mean when they talk about leadership) is not what is expected from His followers. In my observation, the reason a lot of men aren’t in the church is that men have only been taught one-way submission, both in the culture and in the church. They think “leadership” is connected to “lordship” and have absolutely no context whatsoever about how they also need to submit as men, so when they find themselves in situations that do require their voluntary submission (ex. to the pastor), they don’t have the framework to handle it. It’s the same reason that underlies why women tend to have an easier time with church structure. This is not about how we’re wired, this is pure social conditioning.

[@SheBettaSang]

Truth!

[@themrs.hamptonshow1384]

TRUTH! I’m not just saying that because I’m a woman. This is real!

[@hershey307]

I didn't want this convo to end!

[@sade_8637]

Yes! We need a part 2.🥹

[@s.thomas9493]

Yes PLEASE!

[@DanitaLBuckner]

I know right. It's going in my library😂 I keep pausing and coming back and each time I just want to !! exclamation mark. 😂😊 Man what!

[@anonymously_me1803]

Same

[@Blackgirlsdocrypto]

Agreed!

[@krisfrench77]

I grew up with my father and he was a pastor but he didn’t know how to relate with his kids. He didn’t know his father and he didn’t have a man figure. So in turn I became a man but I didn’t know how to be one. I walked by myself. When I became a father I freaked out and almost ran because I was always told I couldn’t do anything right. But GOD!!!!! I talk to few young men about keeping themselves away from sin and immorality. It is hard to walk alone and be in solitude. We need to help each other.

[@aspiringfemininity8626]

I’m only 21 so I’m glad to be getting this wisdom this young. Almost fell into the KS trap, but this podcast convicted me heavily. People like y’all and Tony Gaskins are extremely anointed in what y’all teach and preach. Thank y’all so much and God bless!

[@BjtheLawyer_]

I’m 29, started listening to KS around 23. KS was a great influence on me personally because he taught us about fashion & how to dress as a Man. And, he pushed Men to work hard & obtain some type of career or profession. So, I want you to understand KS was more than talking about relationships. So, to say it was a trap would be wholly undermining his broader mission & that was to help men! I’m a lawyer now, so let that sink in!

[@joydanleigh7711]

🤍🤍🤍

[@fabulousswag6683]

@@BjtheLawyer_ , Thank you for putting it in words succinctly and objectively. Mr Samuels represents what is needed, but is lacking in the culture. So minimizing that purpose,to emotional feelings alone,is doing one self a disservice. Building a house on a sandy soil,in a dry season without knowledge of both raining and dry season. And the understanding of how seasons affects the soil and why it impacts the building,you build on it,is recipe for a diasterous fall of the build, during raining season. KS shows this, through demonstration of critical reasoning ability,in terms of skill,tools and rules of his engagement, to find the suitable nature of mind for the value you wants to cultivate in it,as your legacy.

[@BjtheLawyer_]

@user-ve3ig8de8s Crazy part was Kevin Samuels was Christian and grew up in the church. Also, your husband didn’t just one day start dressing good or have swag. It’s something you have to be exposed to in order to get ideas! However, please do not minimize Kevin Samuels impact because the man have over a million subscribers for a reason. He knew what he was talking about. And as a lawyer and someone who informs others myself. Kevin knew what he was talk about and he was on point. From a secular standpoint he who men & boys should listen to for wisdom! You don’t think God gave him the platform to be able to reach millions? Because if you’re Christian you know that messages and lessons can come from anybody. Don’t be so quick to choose who you want to listen too, instead of who God places in front of you to listen too. There’s a difference.

[@moniquej369]

@@BjtheLawyer_KS had hatred in his heart towards women. If that’s your idea of a great role model, that’s pretty sad. Smh.

[@potentialcaroozin2385]

I don’t think y’all know how much I needed this. I’m 18, just started my first relationship, and I’m so lost, because my parents are the prime example of a broken man who married a maid. I have these intimate questions with no example in my life of a Godly relationship and what it entails. Yes it’s important to remain celibacy, everyone knows that, but like you said, the potential of a relationship isn’t just physical or if you find them attractive and look at that, they’re Christian. What does a Godly relationship look like emotionally? In practice? It’s not just praying together, though important. Would you be FRIENDS with this person. So thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

[@AlexMinor]

Before you fix this image of your parents in your mind, why don't you go ask your mother if she feels like she's just a maid married to a broken man. You might be surprised at what answer she gives.

[@Perogativeprincess]

Define your morals, standards, and how love/respect/communication etc means to you and never bend! Talk to your parents and understand their story also bc there probably is sooo much more to where you have came in their life now :) And remember, he’s only one person! Don’t ever get so attached you forgot you came in this world by yourself and there are SOOO many amazing men out there

[@onethree123d]

​@@AlexMinorwhy didn't u tell her to talk to her dad? Also implying people can not recognize dysfunction especially children.

[@AlexMinor]

@@onethree123d I told her to talk to her mother to get additional context for her mom’s situation. She perceives her mother as a “slave”. Her view may be biased or inaccurate because she only has a child’s knowledge of events. If her mother likes or even loves her situation and is happy filling her role for her husband/family and wants to do it, would that still constitute slavery?

[@onethree123d]

@@AlexMinor lol. Yes what women do is slavery period. But ignore that why would a child use broken man and slave. You're full of it and I see through you.

[@blairjohnson6785]

Preston is lowkey becoming a role model for me. Young man to young man, inner city kid to inner city kid. Thank god for you all…but I gotta give my man his flowers…Ezekiel love man! Jackie of course we love you too lol! Can’t wait for the tour.

[@amieshawilliams]

For sure his glow up is impressive!

[@kris.v0513]

The Lord led me to this video and I don't even have a man rn but the wisdom yall are imparting is major for men AND women who are preparing for their husband's arrival!!!! Thank you Jesus for these great teachers

[@kathialaguerre1074]

Many don't have fathers or father figures and coming into a church do not want to "submit" to another man because that is not something they had to do that at home.

[@yamilee1354]

What a powerful conversation! MARRY YOUR FRIEND IS KEYYYYYY, being with my husband has taught me men are simple, Society has made them appear complex. Ready to feed each other not feast each other---EZEKIEL!!!!!

[@acct4600]

i love how women listen to what a society full of women says about men, instead of listening to the men they wish to understand.

[@ashleysessoms4967]

❤

[@mwachofi23]

I really hope many people can listen to this and be renewed because we are all hurting and we need this. This is indeed timely.

[@Blessed_Sound]

Try to report the fake account that responded

[@Blessed_Sound]

@WITHTHEPERRYS-Let your feet fall in the net you set for God children.

[@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent]

I love everything about this. 10/10. I even find joy and watching Jackie adore her husband walking out his gift to a level of excellence

[@brandyfriend221]

Same. I saw that too.😊

[@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent]

@@brandyfriend221 yes!

[@She_is_Chris]

As a woman, I make sure I create a safe place for my father, brothers, friends, etc to listen & understand their issues. I love what Transformation Church is doing with their Mended Men gatherings. A time for men to address their hurt and concerns and mend their wounds to embrace gentleness/humility in Christ. ❤

[@BearingMySeoul]

The problem is that Western churches operate like lecture classes instead of workshops. When you take a workshop, EVERYBODY has to participate. You can't "attend" a writing workshop without bringing in your work. You critique others and you get critiqued. The ONLY ministry I ever participated in where there was gender balance (or too many men on some occasions!) was a ministry based on training people up to go out to evangelize, heal the sick, and cast out demons. Like if you got saved last week, you fittna be sharing your testimony and praying for people this week! And there was no just "getting saved." You getting baptized ASAP and we pulling on the Holy Spirit to cast these demons out and get you filled with Holy Spirit on Day One. There was NEVER a shortage of men. That's what a "workshop" looks like in a church setting. Faith is built as we do the work. Courage is built as we see God show up. We're able to serve the Lord fully once we get free from demonic oppression. "The kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power." (1 Corinthians 4:20) The Christian church needs to talk less and DO more, period.

[@caramia4483]

This is good 🔥

[@Qual8ty_Evangelism]

Yes!

[@simismith9093]

Love this. Was thinking about this recently. Was that church in the US?

[@BearingMySeoul]

​@@simismith9093 No. It was a training ministry started in Europe but I participated in the US. They’re not as active now as they were (for reasons too numerous to state here) but there’s still useful teachings up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2mYopWXepyFd7M and this is one of their mini-documentaries: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moGxaaeAhJatY6c

[@enochrry6024]

Well,the examples were the King of Kings The Messiah and the Apostles themselves=Action💯..Without the power of the Holy Spirt there is no action but alot of words..Also watch out for words without actual scriptures backing them,but are intellectual worldly with flattery.

[@monettevalliere]

Jackie you hit this on the head. Some men enjoy men more than women. So true

[@simplyme7711]

The same can be said for us women. Guilty 🤚

[@scorchedearth824]

Women are married to their careers, their pets, their family and especially their girlfriends who are single but are married, most of these woman don't have the energy to deal with their husband's

[@abawitx]

Definitely women are majorly guilty of this. Speaking for myself as well

[@theapexvibe6334]

The "what" isnt important. The "WHY" is

[@JG-id5vi]

As a man I never understood that. My wife has to be my best friend or something is very wrong.

[@misskim80]

This video is sooooo powerful. Thank you so much for this video to help us really dive in to the real issues. This helps me and others pray more for our men!!

[@adebolaakindele6115]

This is toooooo good!! I always ENJOY conversations where these trio feature. This is a gift. Thank you 💗.

[@ashkariuki4225]

The friendship part...MY GOOD GOD!!! SOOOO GOOD!!! This is such a good pod! WOW Thank you all so much for this one!!!🔥🔥🔥

[@makaumulli8778]

Watu wa 254, I see you!

[@polly6797]

Deep episode. You guys are often warning/teaching how to find the right spouse (which is awesome) but if you get a chance, please speak to those who may not have married wisely but have no intention of breaking up their family unit. I know a few Christian, suffering marriages where there is no foundational friendship or respect. I know you guys aren’t in that position but I’m sure you have some wisdom for it. Thankyou for your content! Ya’ll get me through alotta dishes!

[@Journey2sanctification]

Felt this! There are definitely some of us praying and waiting for Godly leadership in our marital home.

[@bruci8717]

Sis, I really hope you receive a response. For years I commented under Christian content in the same vein but never received a response. I’m now divorcing, not because I didn’t feel exactly as you did, but because there were also safety issues in my marriage. But I too STILL would like to hear teaching on what to do when in a marriage entered into against conventional godly wisdom. Thank you for this content!

[@jada7940]

@@bruci8717not to like be that person or anything but I literally just watched a video that mentioned divorce that is on “Richard Lorenzo Jr”s channel and the woman divorced her husband but the Lord led her to repent because Christian’s are not supposed to divorce unless due to adultery in the relationship or if the other person asks. Im sure you’ve already prayed on this but maybe just ask the Lord the next step and if your situation calls you to repent

[@kimberlyturner820]

@@jada7940 True. Amen to this.

[@NiRaSis]

Do people really think that because God says "adultery and if the unsaved person wants to leave" means physical abuse isnt grounds for divorce? God gave us common sense for a reason. We have instincts as humans to protect ourselves from harm. You dont stay with someone who beats you because God doesnt directly say you can divorce if physical abuse takes place. Its clear in other passages that abuse is unacceptable behavior. If you want to separate but not divorce right away and give the person a chance to repent/change, thats fine but if they dont get help, you are just delaying the inevitable. They will eventually move on to someone else (adultery). Also, i would guess 9 times out of 10, if physical abuse is present, they are probably cheating too. No respect.

[@thesoulfoodpodcast]

I can't stop watching this episode, it's that good! Can't wait to meet you guys in November in London. God bless you all for addressing these issues

[@janicerichardson7307]

This is a much needed truthful conversation. Thank you for having it unapologetically

[@DioniWise87]

WOOO! Preston was PREACHIN' preachin' today! I reacted like his proud wife, Jackie, the whole episode. LOL! I can tell God has given Preston much wisdom on male-female relationships because he spoke with such clarity, conciseness and quick wit. I'm excited to see what God is going to do through Preston and Ezekiel. Jackie, thanks as usual for asking much-needed questions and offering your insights. SPLENDIFEROUS EPISODE! I've learned how to relate better with men, including my dad, brothers and male co-workers. 49:00 Also, when Ezekiel hit us with the story of Jesus washing the disciples' feet, I had to run to the Ephesians 5:25 when Paul writes, "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,..." I never connected that with Jesus literally washing feet with water, but it makes so much sense. Jesus was modeling servant-leadership to husbands. Wow! And Peter initially rejected Jesus' offer, but he learned to receive. That mirrors what some women might do-not respond to leadership, as Jackie pointed out. WOW! This episode really blessed me! Thank you, God!

[@DanitaLBuckner]

Yes! God has been dealing with me a while on this, and I feel like this episode touched on everything from a man's perspective. This was SO needed. This is gonna out live us. Why? Because it's the gospel truth. So excited

[@yahboycodi]

This is by far one the best episodes I have watched. Thank you for this. These things need to be discussed more.

[@AbbiePeaceMaker]

This was so good! It also felt so short. . . God bless your ministry. Praying God raises men in my community with a heart for young men too. ❤

[@Lrc_Tre]

This conversation was amazing and truly needed. Thank you father for these three and exemplifying your love.

[@collettenicole2364]

Yoooooo... THIS IS SOOO GOOD!!!! On SO MANY LEVELS!! It's taken a few times to get all the way through and each time I pick back up I'm wowed all over again! SO GOOD YALL!! 💪🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Keep it up.

[@carolmosweu1033]

Thank you Jackie and Preston as well as Ezekiel for always pouring in to us❤

[@brittneythompson7218]

You guys. Please continue making these podcasts. PLEASE. I connect with you guys so much, you speak on things that I don’t get to hear much at all in church. I need these conversations.

[@simplyme7711]

Thought-provoking, conversation-worthy, and marriage-changing! Thank you for having and sharing this conversation. Powerful stuff!

[@gatheik]

A good conversation indeed. Showing men how much they're needed in every community is so important.

[@akia.mm9]

Of course another beautiful podcast! Where is the petition to just make this 60 Minutes With The Perry’s. Can’t wait for the tour!

[@jide_yeni]

This was such a powerful episode! It made me even understand more and better why we as men act and respond in a certain ways. Especially in preparation for marriage. Thank you Preston & Jackie!

[@Burg07]

This was very well needed for people to hear! Thank God discipleship is heavy in my church 🙌🏽🙏🏽

[@madimakes]

59:29 : OUCH -- big facts! this whole convo is fire. Thank you for this. The convo at the end was soooo gooood. And it's helps underscore the point at the *beginning* -- which is why mentorship and these conversations and discipleship are soooo important.

[@neiceydukes5399]

I absolutely APPRECIATE this God led conversation! Many chains were broken!

[@gilbertrodriguez866]

I stumbled on this podcast because the previous video ended and praise God for that. Keep keeping it 100% . Not to many dudes and women keeping it absolutely truthful.

[@tt8037]

On the men at church-- I’m a woman lol but from watching over 15 yrs at my church and seeing what my Pastors (husband&wife team example as Pastors)offer the men together and most importantly my Pastor Joe as a man of God himself individually provides as an example for men I believe I can accurately say thru observation that--… my church is rare because men join, serve and are faithful. No one is forcing them to come. No pressure. I believe men need a place to be vulnerable, where it’s safe to share, where there’s consistency, support, be recognized, allowed to grow from where they are, see a strong example of a man of God that works and know that they are loved and are important. I see this actively done at my church. We have mens gathering called Brave every month-150 plus men come out on a Sat morn to get encouragement from our Pastor and fellowship with each other. It’s a beautiful thing🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💙🙏🏾 I pray this miracle for all ministries .

[@simpliabigail2606]

I'm oh so blessed by this message😇. So many things to learn and unlearn. May God continue to inspire you ❤💙

[@ayricaLC]

Awesome talk, Thank you. I pray men can be men and their voices can be heard in their own way.

[@CharCharJars]

Talk about PHENOMENAL TALK So touched in the best way by this. Thank you friends, I met y’all every since y’all came to Jacksonville, FL At Murray Hill Theatre, and most all years that followed❤️. Have a few pics and tears I’ve shared and I’m so grateful to have come along this journey and GOD bless you all & your families tremendously 🙌🏾

[@Joostin8]

Man I really loved that front to back. Thank you guys so much. These videos and conversations never miss!

[@mitajadanesh9997]

Can’t wait to listen to this episode.. I missed you guys and your deep conversations. Love your Podcast!

[@Paula-ww1kt]

Our men need this! Lord help us build more people like you to continue his works in the church and outside the church 🙌🏾

[@rayvision2972]

Ms Perry your questions are so on point, I appreciate yall!!

[@dabike_]

This was so much wisdom to unpack in this episode. I think Preston bares his heart out in this. Thank you Ezekiel and Jackie the host. I will certainly listen to this more than once.

[@CapriDanae08]

I wish I was on this couch ! As a woman who's been married for 10 years to a man who idolized Kevin Samuels and men like him, THIS CONVERSATION IS NEEDED! I needed this, so I know men need this. Thank you!😊

[@cpeacenlove]

Praying for you, sis 😮‍💨

[@kingstrong5351]

Most Men think like KS. If you have a problem with that then date women lol.

[@CapriDanae08]

@kingstrong5351 Your comment is insensitive and not necessary. Just because most men think like him, doesn't mean it's OK.

[@Jojo-pv3uf]

@@kingstrong5351most men? No. I’m sorry I don’t agree with that as a married woman. My husband would NEVER take advice from a man who has not succeeded in marriage. His parents and my parents have been married over 30 years and if my dad saw KS he would think that its not a man worth emulating. If you’re divorced twice, you ARE the problem.

[@A_Notes]

​@Jojo-pv3uf have you stopped to think that he learned from mistakes and he's trying to open people eyes to what is breaking up marriages. Ex: if a recovered crack addict starts telling people don't do drugs. Is he disqualified from telling people that because he was on drugs?

[@nadiahammer5501]

This is such a beautiful and necessary conversation so I thank y’all so much. Every word of it is true. Men NEED to be valued and discipled.

[@YouTuber11111]

I’ve been so reluctant to follow the upcoming tour or even consider buying tickets for it but LISTEN! After this I realize it’s a must! I honestly felt like it was a gathering where silly conversation (for lack of a better phrase) would be had but yaaaaaal! This is needed, I believe you guys will also be speaking to the hearts of men that like you said have been neglected and also it’s just as important for women, you validated both but also corrected both in one sitting! 🥺🙌🏾

[@jamilakumandja5801]

This was life changing guys, thanks Preston, Ezekiel and Jackie you've completely changed my views 💪🏽

[@dereklepiesza5022]

Man, I was watching this episode, and right at the end, about healing the boy in men… I just broke down and cried. Spoken right to me. Wow!

[@jeaninerichardson7179]

This quality sound wisdom dispersed on this epic surely needs to be a series. I was really Blessed 🙌 by it definitely phenomenal. ✨

[@spiritualcosmeticss]

There are so many people on the internet giving bad advice, so it’s so refreshing to hear good godly advice! Thank you!!! Please Please Please bring y’all tour to Detroit MI!! This should be a podcast!

[@stephenoni2019]

this is such a good conversation; this is needed in the church today and many pastors definitely need to be addressing this

[@restoredbyfaith]

Loved this episode! It was such a gift. Please bring Ezkekial on again

[@wizthesceptic2190]

I have followed all of them since p4Cm poetry and I love the growth I have seen over the years especially with the Perry's. I love it and in a dying culture they bring so much life.

[@eleasebarrow7897]

My slam poetry coach introduced me to "Almost Saved" just before my senior year of high school. That's when I realized I could do this thing that I thought was so cool for Jesus. My sister bought me the tour DVD a few years later.

[@JaykneeHill]

i LOVE what Ezekiel said at the end! So beautifully put. We have to look at ourselves and others how the Lord sees us... as children... that need guidance through love only God CAN PROVIDE. Insightful perspectives, beautiful exchange, lovely podcast episode.

[@kaycole85]

I didn't want it to End!!!!!! I got my ENTIRE life! This was so powerful the wisdom in this video is RICH🙌🏾🙏🏾💙🤴🏿

[@LadyRishae]

Poets in Autumn is where I first came across these three amazing people! Lyrically, naturally and most of all spiritually, y’all are some beasts ❤❤❤ Thank you for using your platform to restore, reintroduce, and reconnect the people with God 🎉😊😌

[@cwnj40]

Thank you!!!! Yall are all up in my brain. 😂 I'm about to celebrate 30 years of marriage in a few days and I'm still learning. ❤❤❤

[@vantafire]

You guys are so freaking awesome! Jackies words Grips my soul in a way that makes you want to be better! I love her genuine fierce Drivefor Jesus! ❤

[@theInsightfulSpectrum]

Love this talk can’t wait until the tour real men of God finally addressing men’s issues in a healthy, holistic, and honest way It’s time for change so the next generation of young don’t continue this cycle of brokenness 🙏🏽🙌🏾

[@user-zn2pr5hx1j]

This session is fire. From biblical truth to Jackie’s side eye and passion, it was so nice to hear and see very difficult things talked about from a biblical and candid perspective. So many awesome things here. Thank you.

[@kelleydoakes7142]

Really big on the teaching that these brothers and sister they render!!! Anything worth saying or doing MUST be grounded in the Word! I can't wait to see the fruit of this upcoming tour!

[@ser5615]

I literally can’t get over how GOOOODDD this episode is and I’m not even finished yet 😭😭😭

[@TheonlyLadytee212]

Oh my word! This episode was pure GOLD!!! You three were so informative, insightful and full of wisdom! You all sound like you've been married for a hundred years but with the wisdom of Jesus on tap! Beautiful job Fam!!!

[@_Natalia24]

So glad my church is big on discipleship 🙏🏿 I pray other churches will start to take it serious. It's a beautiful thing.

[@wesleyanncoombs3102]

This was an excellent discussion. It’s a blessing to see how God uses these discussions to His glory. The perspective from a male point of view was an eyes to not just in marriages but also as it relates to the church. I believe that men are needed and are under demonic attacks because in them are the seeds (nations) of their out godly out springs. I declare God’s guidance and blessings on your tours and upon your household 🙏🏾

[@lologirl11]

This was a powerful and beautiful conversation, I enjoyed this. I pray one day I am surrounded by friends who can share these deep and meaningful conversations.

[@jemimajanvier4706]

Regarding the church catering to women, I definitely agree. There are many women's conferences, many female Christian speakers and preachers. But I don't think that the church purposefully caters to women over men because they see us as better consumers, I simply think this is because women are more active within the church. More women attend church, more women are willing to participate and contribute to ministry. For example, my church has a men's ministry that is led by one of the pastor's, but they are barely active (although I have attended churches where the men, although still fewer in number, are quite active). Meanwhile, the women's ministry is a lot more active and social. I don't believe the church is catering to women, I think more women are showing up and reaping the greatest benefit that church provides, which is community. But that sense of community lacks equilibrium if men do not also receive it.

[@Sa-Deehya]

💯

[@plewis6787]

Exactly.

[@cybercowgirl5711]

I have a true question: as a man - do you not benefit at all from being around other believers even if they are women? I guess I’m confused on what’s the difference between the word of God with more men in the building and the word of God without more men in the building? Does that make any sense? lolol

[@HelloTygr]

@@cybercowgirl5711Of course there is benefit to being around believers whether they are men or women, and the word of God does not change. But just as women need other women to disciple and lead them, men need other men, and it doesn’t work when those roles are mixed up.

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

"Why Men Hate Going To Church" by David Murrow provides reasons why men don't go to church.

[@emmah8712]

Ezkekiah's reactions to this convos are the hype side man we never knew we needed. Ya'll finna talk for hours and hours if this was not meant to be uploaded. ❤❤😂

[@thesunsflower]

I really enjoyed this so much. This was such a wholesome thing to listen to while getting ready for work. I really admire how Jackie did not interrupt the guys while they were speaking from their perspective as a man. I'm not saying she does normally, but in other podcasts where women are asking men questions about how they feel and think, it's SOOOO annoying when they get interrupted. I'm like, "SIS BE QUIET. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT FROM MY FUTURE HUSBAND!!!"

[@Jessica-ej1xe]

ALL OFF THIS WAS GOOD!! Thank you for having open and honest dialect. We need it! Real truth!

[@cpeezy02]

Wow, this just so happened to pop up on my feed. And as a single man. This was a great conversation.

[@shanncreates]

Thai is so enlightening! This whole section 16:15 talking about messages aren’t catering to men is so true. I rarely hear messages on pain men experience in rejection or any topic other than being the head of their family.

[@AshleyAborisade]

Boy oh boy I knew from the first five minutes that this was gonna be good. True talk I am not even done yet. 🥹 Keep sharing this gospel 🙌🏽 More of this.

[@rhulanimasia4822]

This was so incredibly sobering 🌻 this spoke to so much of the cynicism that I experienced and projected as it pertains to relationships in Christianity. Thank you for this, really 🙏🏽🌻

[@rozcee]

Is it just me, or do y’all love the Perry’s?!!!! This podcast gave me soo much excitement but also insight as a young woman and what we can do and NEED to do. It’s not just serving, it’s the HOW that’ll shake the earth and build the body of Christ❤

[@user-ei9pr4em6s]

This was absolutely amazing. I’m grateful for all 3 perspectives. Thank you all for being a blessing to me, the culture and above all the body of Christ. We need you all and GOD bless you richly in Jesus name amen.

[@esthernichols4451]

My God. I don't even know where to start. But THANK YOU!!! For being REAL, OPEN AND TRANSPARENT when it comes to Matters of the Heart concerning OUR men. As a Future Wife in training, this podcast has enlightened me in so many ways. I will definitely pass onto others-- both men and women. We need all the knowledge we can get as it relates to relationships.

[@khatnip.khatpatrong]

The part about lust really struck me. This conversation was powerful, we need more male leaders in the church! ❤