Mengsk vs Nova | Daily SC2 Brawl

Watch giant armies battle. Can you predict the outcomes?
Round 1 ▶ 25 Mengsk's Shock Divisions vs 1 Nova and 300 Spec Ops Ghosts
Round 2 ▶ 300 Strike Goliaths vs 25 Pride of Augustgrads
Round 3 ▶ 200 Flame Troopers and 25 Aegis Guards vs 60 Heckbat Rangers and 50 Marauder Commandos
Round 4 ▶ 40 Covert Banshees vs 600 Rocket Troopers
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This channel exists to document unit counters within StarCraft 2. Tya's Unit Tournament features epic battles between units in StarCraft 2, using music from the game's soundtrack. Units are chosen from Protoss, Terran and Zerg forces, or a coop commander such as Raynor, Nova, Artanis, or Kerrigan. Units will independently use their abilities, in a basic way. All units use Legacy of the Void stats, the same units you'd see in SC2 esports controlled by the likes of Serral, Maru, and ByuN. The resource beneath vespene is the unit's cost in the mod I run on the SC2 arcade, Direct Strike. Enjoy!

[@dcaf94]

I...did not expect hundreds of Strike Goliaths to not even kill one PoA

[@HISKILP]

they could have without stun

[@Cyberium]

@@HISKILP Without stun? I'd think it's an advantage.

[@nhagan001]

I was quite surprised when their stuns didn't seem to do much. I guess it doesn't work on Massive units?

[@user-xb2xg3wi5r]

@@nhagan001 Stuns do work on them, it's just triple splash Yamato is quite powerful.

[@angellopez6475]

It was brutal

[@pamsp]

Good to know that a hard counter to the 14k tanks is 225000 in ghosts, knowing is half the battle

[@zes7215]

wrgg

[@SeventhSolar]

This is the most useful Nova has ever been. She ate a decent amount of tank shots.

[@mwhighlander]

Hey now. Nova had been very useful as blizzard Samus. Especially for fan service.

[@zes7215]

wrgg, no such thing as usex or etc

[@ilikedragons7928]

Take notes people to beat shock division you need 30 times their resources and a tanky (pun not intended) hero.

[@adfghsfol]

Raynors siege tanks muchbetter with prestige which adding +100% attack speed. In siege tank battles they kinda suck

[@codenamegnetne8209]

Or air units that can shoot ground.

[@pinkmimic5942]

Technically, Shock Divisions can also shoot air.

[@bendystrawz2832]

@@pinkmimic5942 I'd love to see them on medivacs blasting Nova's Libs xD

[@zes7215]

wrr

[@yuuumtheepic4118]

the first one was 250 000 resources vs around 14000 resources lmao, that was one of the most lop-sided fights I've ever seen in terms of resources.

[@zes7215]

wrrr

[@davidstud3952]

Aegis Guard lost? never seen this before

[@Crawdithe98]

3/4 First match: There were too many Ghosts for the Tanks to handle. Second Match: Not sure if this shows how strong the Prides are, or how pathetic Goliaths are, no matter what iteration they are. Currently leaning towards the latter. Third Match: Predicted that the Flame Troops would get slaughtered, but the Marauder fights were surprisingly even. Fourth Match: I thought th Rocket Troopers would easily overwhelm the Banshees, forgetting that the Covert Banshees had that chaf-clear ability.

[@Headhunter1234256]

Those goliaths are amazing support against terran or protoss air. They are not a good as a backbone.

[@Crawdithe98]

@@Headhunter1234256 Well, regardless, I'm sticking to my rule of never betting on Goliaths.

[@vahidmoosavian6313]

Oh they are actually pretty good against mech air, but PoA's triple Yamato is just that good😬! (And It shoots fast enough that their stun can't cancel it, unlike normal yamato)

[@Headhunter1234256]

@@Crawdithe98 you should not bet on them unless they are backing something good up against mechanical air.

[@Crawdithe98]

@@Headhunter1234256 Even then, I'm still not betting on them. Better safe than sorry.

[@mcspud]

RIP to those rocket troopers.

[@vahidmoosavian6313]

Yeah well, that's pretty much the only niche use for covert banshee. You can bet your ladder they will deliver🙃.

[@awakenDeepBlue]

Turns out, they are expendable.

[@jimmyha1898]

Wow that last fight had me on the edge of my seat! So much back and forth lmao. It seems like Mengsk won. Resource wise, Nova and her Ghosts got roflstomped by Shock Division and the Prides steamrolled the Strike Goliaths.

[@Eonflare55]

With Mengsk's units though, you've got to take the experience into consideration as well, something that's a bit hard to measure.

[@___SourR34___]

What if we had Nova's ghosts vs Emperor's Shadow

[@adfghsfol]

with or without emp, or with preactivated supercloak that prevents drain all energy straight from the start

[@lupesnow5028]

I think Nova ghosts would win. Emperor's Shadow abilities are energy based whereas Nova's ghost are on cooldown. Here how I see the match going : Ghosts EMP the Shadows which trigger their invulnerability cloak. Since they don't have energy left, Shadows can only auto attack. 10 second when the cloak wore off, the Ghosts snipe them to near death (340 damage with the triple tap against 350hp for the Shadow). The match ends with a volley of auto attack from the Ghosts

[@Th3Sh1n1gam1]

Triple tap would probably kill the super perma cloaks, so even emp aside, the ES are at a disadvantage unless you have a ton.

[@FBI-ju5no]

As much as I love the Shadows, they'd definitely lose that fight.

[@Uranium_chewer]

nobody gonna mention pyrokenetics??? that shiz is dope against bio

[@KeppyKep]

The start of that last fight was absolutely glorious. Don't think I've seen that many units die that fast, without it being banelings.

[@bendystrawz2832]

I was like "Rocket Troopers win this easy" because I don't play Nova Banshees. Then 0.25 seconds in I was like "oh...."

[@aazkaal]

The last battle is quite hope spot. Almost feel sorry for the guys. It seems that rocket troopers have a chance after all, and one of them even says that he'd worse... and then banshee's AoE comes off cooldown, and that's the end.

[@HISKILP]

those goli actually helped the POA with the stun

[@boyvol6428]

Second soundtract is fire af, i need a title of it.

[@randomcuttlefish6778]

Only matchup I can think of where sc1 ghosts would do better than Nova’s ghosts.

[@adfghsfol]

btw Mengsk's ghosts have same ability but it works differently, and i tend to think, that ghosts are ultimate Mengsks weapon as Prouds of Augustgrads if he used them

[@Tdvtdvtdv]

Sc1 ghosts have 90 hp or something, would they even get close enough?

[@mileslee5883]

Hey Tya, is it possible to spawn han & horner units? I'm starting to get curious!

[@dragonstormx]

I didn't think the Prides of Augustgrad would beat the Strike Goliaths, especially not so easily. Going in at rank 3 makes a huge difference. This gives the PoAs more than double the HP of a normal battlecruiser and they can fire their Yamato Guns their times in quick succession. The Strike Goliaths can survive one hit, not two. The battlecruisers also only fire as many shots as they need to destroy each target, and their shots deal AOE damage. Not helping things is that the Strike Goliaths are marching in a way that means they cannot bring all their firepower to bear at once.

[@Thescott16]

I have never seen Nova (the unit) deleted so quickly by anything that wasn't Dehaka...

[@HiddenWen]

Mengsk would've won the brood wars if he just sent those PoA's at everyone.

[@BRA1NST0RM]

It's like a special ops coup in the Dominion, and Mengsk Imperial guards were sent to suppress it

[@Warblefly41]

First time seeing all units of one side survive

[@smugshrug]

where do Rocket Troopers come from? Kinda looks like a cancelled WoL unit.

[@Feudic_Jarl]

"Imma zerg rush you with ghosts"

[@TurboMMaster]

Makes perfect sense when you think about it - named characters were always like 99% of SoK/Dominion power. And judging from how "effective" Mengsk troops were during WOL (especially Media Blitz), it's hard to put too much fate in them.

[@Sunnysideanyway]

Mengsk is pretty powerful in Co-op, his conscripts make up their lack of health with overwhelming firepower and his elite units are about on par with Nova's. Mengsk and Nova are my two favorite Co-op commanders, which makes sense given I am a terran main in ladder. Then again, Raynor and Swann are closer to vanilla gameplay...

[@TurboMMaster]

@@Sunnysideanyway True - but note that I was talking about lore. Nova troops are special forces, while Mengsk forces are Elite Guard type - but since they failed to stop UED Expeditionary Fleet, Post- Brood War Swarm in I and Raynor Riders in II, I don't consider them very "Elite" lore-vise. And while Mengsk is one of the best commanders, I don't like to play with Mengsk. Since they usually just bombarding main objectives - and that's usually leaves not much fun for the other player LOL

[@BaufenBeast]

I thought the banshees were going to throw that last one because 5 of them were stacked up and shooting single targets, but then their ability came off cooldown.

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

Idea - matchup all the direct strike units of one commander vs another. Make the cost the same.

[@MrRulet550]

*550 people die incredibly quick* "I've been in worse"

[@vietnguyenquoc9173]

What is the song at 1:00 ?

[@Eltrotraw]

3/4 this time My predictions: - Ghosts (the numerical and resource advantage looked to be in their favor, and the surround...) - Goliaths (I should have listened to my gut to not trust goliaths, even souped up ones) - Commandos (flame troopers didn't seem like they'd be impressive here aside from their numbers. Fodder maybe.) - Banshees (the aoe I was expecting to make quick work but got very worried near the end)

[@user-je3sk8cj6g]

What kind of hellish Banshees were those

[@wowditto]

from 300... Not even one PoA?.... OOF that must be painful

[@benhornstein1688]

They did, in fact, see her coming.

[@Vantud391]

So many new cool skins, wish they put it in campaigns.

[@Tobeh]

I took that Goliath round as a personal attack.

[@75g53]

Kev west, marauder commandos, aegis guards, hammer securities, and dominion kill team marauders vs many normal marauders

[@DrownedInExile]

Wow. Those Strike Goliaths couldn't come close to downing a single Augustgrad Battlecruiser???

[@zhorakz9500]

What does it mean - MVP?

[@Sunnysideanyway]

Mengsk's elite units get more powerful as enemy units die around them so they are especially powerful in large fights.

[@ZeroSOFInfinity]

*Strike Goliaths appear* *gets totally obliterated by PoA* "Wow... they ARE useless"

[@rc_youtubeaccount1331]

25 PoA is kind of like power of 40 Taldarim motherships??

[@alexbalser2304]

I wonder how the third one would have gone if the aeigis guard had been in front of the soliders. They’re best used as shields, in my experience.

[@justachip771]

The soldiers is flame trooper, so it's just gonna charge up front anyway

[@Tdvtdvtdv]

They'd get stunned by hellbats and slowed by marauder commandos, and die without doing much damage

[@roymuerlunos2426]

No small part of me enjoys that the highly worshipped Rocket troopers failed.... Justice.... ahhh~

[@arcdraconis9579]

The resource cost though

[@mrsensetive2u]

@@arcdraconis9579 The nearly 100k resource difference had my jaw drop to the basement 👀

[@Skullhawk13]

Banshees are light aren’t they?

[@idiragon]

are these mod units?

[@aazkaal]

Nova's blink at beginning was just terrible; she basically became free frag for the tanks. It was possible to if, not preserve her, then at least make it harder for the tanks had she blinked FORWARD instead of backwards (more than once!).

[@karlk7070]

The swarm of Nova

[@jckcc]

Cannon fodder vs highly specialized units in comparable amounts. Fair.

[@GrommiD]

Am i wrong or we have a FIRST Flawless Victory in whole series with Pride of Augustgrad's?!?

[@FilmaticProductions]

Dehaka takes that spot bro

[@GrommiD]

@@FilmaticProductions yeah, but Dehaka is a hero, but we talking about a group of units. Its Like 2 divisions, heros and units.

[@user-mc1mg4lj5h]

ㅅㅂ 타격골리앗은 방산비리급이네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ what the hell... Were there any corruptions in logistics for Strike Goliath group?

[@thewakingdead1]

The mineral imbalance in these is crazy.

[@Darkside007]

Mengsk's Royal Guards have costs along the lines of 100m/750v to encourage Trooper spam.

[@resiliencevideos]

poa is the dehaka of normal units

[@01trixor]

Yeah Mengks totally "lost" that one

[@diegovladimirvelascocamach4024]

excellent ... 0/4

[@valkorion46]

Mengsk ghost vs Nova ghost

[@piotrnapora5810]

2 wasn't even a fight. It was a mess

[@berdly1261]

Снайперы побеждают ибо дорогие ресы на юнита и много тем более их 15000 75000 vs 3750 10625. Механика TABS чек

[@Y0G0FU]

Seems pretty unfair that the Ghosts lost their tripple Snipe while the PoA got to keep tripple Yamato :o

[@andranikmassih2834]

Triple snipe doesn't work on mech.

[@kwombok]

@@andranikmassih2834 yes thats why they said they lost it -_-

[@georgebrimilcombe6535]

I mean it's just an upgraded version of snipe which has only worked versus bio units, what did you expect?

[@lupesnow5028]

@@kwombok But they didn't. Yamato work on anything while snipe only on biological. They still have their ability, just can't use it. The only "unfair" part is that Ghost are not at all design to fight unshielded mech, but they still end up winning so who cares

[@slorty4494]

Wow, Nova really do be biting the hand that feeds her.

[@SaulGoodman3D2049]

To be fair doesn't she go rogue at the end of her DLC campaign lol

[@rc_youtubeaccount1331]

Nova died without single shoot

[@Demortixx]

Just use lockdown on tanks

[@TheNorang]

Mengsk units are silly

[@caopi9783]

Dehaka units are hungry

[@mauricioalejandrowestermey1180]

broken you mean? Three charges of AOE Yamato is kind of dumb

[@38procentkrytyk]

And Raynor units are mostly Men.

[@CommanderLex]

@@mauricioalejandrowestermey1180 Those things cost 400/900, they better be kind of broken.

[@SaulGoodman3D2049]

@@mauricioalejandrowestermey1180 Mengsk's Royal Guard steal- I mean they have a coincidentally similar unit promotion mechanic from the Command and Conquer games where each unit needs certain XP to rank up in order to get more armor/attack upgrades and unlock new abilities. In normal play Mengsk's Pride of Augustgrads are incredibly expensive, take a ton of supply, and require a ton of XP to gain that triple Yamato.

[@MinhNguyen-mq9gc]

Got them all wrong

[@zombiezom2879]

Love the continued trend of Nova dying immediately to give her units a half second more time to close the distance. Maybe put her in to the back with rifle one of these days?

[@asofknight9847]

Sucks to watch these now my PC just blue screened on me yesterday while playing a different game...

[@48rhxR3agenT]

I don't have better equipment, I'm just playing better

[@user-zv3mc4lq8w]

3/4

[@florianbielawa2919]

Goliaths being as "useful" as ever

[@fujisan0388]

2/4

[@korhol2065]

3/4 Siege tanks are good but they are not godly, not even shock divisions

[@minimalgrammar1276]

0/4

[@Burnlit1337]

Your Nova AI is sucks. She should really try to use her ultimate ability ASAP

[@deadwishcopper9253]

Mengsk wins def.

[@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman]

another day of strike goliaths being the worst unit in commander

[@rodiongadelshin7084]

0/4 ahahahaha

[@PaladineAvenger1]

imagine 300 chicks in tight bodysuits with rifles defeating heavy tanks platoon OMEGALUL

[@pinkmimic5942]

301*

[@tachodemierda]

3/4

[@user-bf8jc5mx3i]

4/3