Mental Health Crisis

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John Stossel

John Stossel

5 жыл бұрын

Government fails the seriously mentally ill.
DJ Jaffe, a Contributor to City Journal, tells John Stossel that New York City mental health officials focus on the wrong things. “Ask any cop what we need, he's going to say, 'we need more hospitals, easier civil commitment so that when I bring somebody they're admitted. We need to keep them on their medications so they don't deteriorate.’ But when I go to a mental health conference, they go, ‘well, we have to educate the public. We have to fight stigma.'"
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NYC's government spends $230 million a year on a program for the mentally ill called, "Thrive NYC.” Mayor se Blasio appointed his wife to run it. Instead of addressing serious mental illness, Jaffe says 80% of the funding goes to much less serious problems like stigma, anxiety and loneliness.
"Blurring the lines between various mild mental disorders such as anxiety or mild depression and Schizophrenia is not a bug. It's a feature of the program,” says Stephen Eide, a Contributing Editor at City Journal. "The program is supposed to do that because it believes that the only way that New Yorkers will support improvements to mental illness policy is if they are convinced that everybody has a mental illness."
Jaffe says Thrive NYC’s $230 million could provide housing and basic treatment to more than half the seriously mentally ill and homeless people in the city. Instead, they dig into dumpsters and languish in jails.
Eide adds, "We tend to think of ourselves as a very compassionate society. But a century from now, when people look at the situation with the seriously mentally ill, they're going to look back on us and wonder how compassionate we really were."

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@DarrenVanDam
@DarrenVanDam 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up Mr. Stossel. Your channel is criminally under watched. I hope that changes.
@zissler1
@zissler1 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@Special-Delivery57
@Special-Delivery57 5 жыл бұрын
Flick Connection Agreed!⚡️🙌🏻⚡️❤️⚡️
@timwarheit4908
@timwarheit4908 4 жыл бұрын
Stossel= ACTUAL journalism in an age of partisan bs....
@marksavoy7076
@marksavoy7076 4 жыл бұрын
It's not underwatched, its suppressed by the algorithm
@zissler1
@zissler1 4 жыл бұрын
@@marksavoy7076 Good point. Flick connection I'm disliking your comment now. You fool! It's the algorithm, don't just blame it on the common folk. Idiot.
@Kunta1926
@Kunta1926 5 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely true. I work in a jail, and if state law makers spent a couple days in jail they'd be building about 100 mental hospitals by tomorrow. The one good thing our jail has is a great unselfish Doctor that knows how to treat mental illness.
@floridaarmyvet3613
@floridaarmyvet3613 5 жыл бұрын
Zyklon B will fix these problems fast!
@itsnotatoober
@itsnotatoober 5 жыл бұрын
Florida army vet on useless poor people like you ?
@janethockey9070
@janethockey9070 5 жыл бұрын
GUNSnSTUFF Sorry dude
@redpilledhispanic1239
@redpilledhispanic1239 3 жыл бұрын
@@floridaarmyvet3613 how is a lice delousing agent supposed to help?
@SovereignStatesman
@SovereignStatesman 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that mental hospitals violate Constitutional rights, so they are shut down. Government needs to crack down on civil rights violations in mental hospitals. But the FBI is saying that hospitals can lock anyone up without Due Process.
@foxiefair123
@foxiefair123 4 жыл бұрын
You’re suddenly cured the minute your insurance runs out.😂
@krismine99
@krismine99 3 жыл бұрын
No, they increase their revenue if you never get better. I've heard the analogy that it's similar to others in the hospitality business. Like hotels, they make money by keeping heads in beds, except they'll probably get a govt subsidy
@foxiefair123
@foxiefair123 3 жыл бұрын
PewDiePies Dingleberries Well, in this case that’s probably good, because it could save lives from suicide.
@SovereignStatesman
@SovereignStatesman 3 жыл бұрын
foxiefaire: And you're diagnosed as "mentally ill and dangerous," when your insurance will pay for TREATMENT. They don't need proof, the FBI says that hospitals can do that on their own discretion.
@davidmedeiros2856
@davidmedeiros2856 4 жыл бұрын
I worked in the state prison for 24 years. I have been saying the same exact thing for years. Mr Stossel keep up the good work. You are highly underrated.
@charlesaferg
@charlesaferg 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Portland where homelessness is a massive problem, and this violent, unpredictable behavior is a direct result of drug abuse. We definitely need hospitals, but this isn't just innate, it's being caused by hard drug use and the city ignores it.
@squirrelyshirley7629
@squirrelyshirley7629 5 жыл бұрын
Probably brain degeneration for veganism too.
@georgemartin4963
@georgemartin4963 5 жыл бұрын
Maine or Oregon?
@charlesaferg
@charlesaferg 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgemartin4963 Maine doesn't have a massive homeless problem, sooo...
@georgemartin4963
@georgemartin4963 5 жыл бұрын
@@charlesaferg I don't know.
@AndrooUK
@AndrooUK 5 жыл бұрын
@@killdizzle I concur. People don't usually harmfully drugs to feel good, but to feel less bad.
@Android-lk3cq
@Android-lk3cq 5 жыл бұрын
Also, a mental health misdiagnosis and or an error and or mistake by a mental health professional and or multiple mental health professionals can ruin someone's life.
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 4 жыл бұрын
Allowing people who act criminally when off their meds or are just untreatable ruins many people's lives. If you commit a criminal act because of your mental illness you should be separated from society.
@ichigokurosaki7762
@ichigokurosaki7762 4 жыл бұрын
@@HadToChangeMyName_KZbinSucks yes but, with power come the abuse of said power. People will be diagnosed BEFORE they commit a crime.
@vladivanov5500
@vladivanov5500 2 жыл бұрын
The 'mental health' industry is a sham, by and large. Dominated by a bunch of mentally unstable hucksters. Should be treated as the pseudoscience that it is - but it won't because Big Pharma money.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Жыл бұрын
For sure
@perseus274
@perseus274 Жыл бұрын
That can happen in a jail too. What should we do? Cancel them?! 🙄
@TeachAManToAngle
@TeachAManToAngle 5 жыл бұрын
STOSSEL - you need to be on bigger platforms again. Mainstream needs your wisdom.
@emmanueloluga9770
@emmanueloluga9770 4 жыл бұрын
@J D HAHAHA. dude calm down lol, that may have been OPs claim but that cant be concluded from one general statement. What if he simply just meant Stossel needs a wider reach. Also yes, I am aware of what your reply claims about the media
@khunopie9159
@khunopie9159 5 жыл бұрын
#MALCA ! Make America Less Crazy Again!
@LordOfNihil
@LordOfNihil 4 жыл бұрын
Im nOT CRazy!!11!
@j.settle6448
@j.settle6448 5 жыл бұрын
Now they are a law enforcement problem. A significant part of our time is dealing with these kinds of people. And with limited options. And the same ones over and over again.
@starkusmc1981
@starkusmc1981 5 жыл бұрын
And once in jail, they have the time to plot out all the ideas they want and attack.
@bobpowers9637
@bobpowers9637 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a disgrace
@ElectricalExistence
@ElectricalExistence 5 жыл бұрын
I suggest euthanasia
@cravinbob
@cravinbob 5 жыл бұрын
They are a medical problem. Why treat them differently than someone who has a brain injury in a car wreck? Police ain't doctors are they?! Doctors ain't police so why do the assholes in Washington DC act like they know everything? The only thing you can call "epidemic' is stupidity in government. Capital Hill is a freak show and cops are only hired guns trained to trick citizens out of their Rights they are sworn to defend. Now all cops are so frightened they wear armor and there are always a dozen at a traffic stop. Losers every one of them, sociopath losers. Destroyers of lives.
@travisbull9544
@travisbull9544 5 жыл бұрын
cravinbob you first kid!!!
@RageAgainstRustyCage
@RageAgainstRustyCage 5 жыл бұрын
It's messed up, because Higher Education seems to be failing the System put in place to deal with the mentally ill... and seriously, Politicians have failed them all. Thank you, John, for taking the time to point it out....
@gabbyk1391
@gabbyk1391 5 жыл бұрын
Have you been watching the Kavanaugh hearings? This is a battle we're currently waging. Those people who are failing us, the dems and flakey Flake are right in front of us for the entire world to see. Their underhanded tricks are out in the open. If we want to win the battle that this video is showcasing, we have to get these dems out first and clean house to make way for proper legislation and good ideas.
@gabbyk1391
@gabbyk1391 5 жыл бұрын
Mr T Yep, the question is what can we do.. and how soon?
@Redmanticore
@Redmanticore 2 жыл бұрын
but psychologists arent in STEM fields and stossel tells college is a scam...
@DragonFruitXVI
@DragonFruitXVI 5 жыл бұрын
I have depression anxiety and ptsd. I watched as I got better while I refused medication. While people with only one of my problems took medication and got worse. Every situation is different. Sometimes people with low level mental problems just need a change in life and not brain chemistry.
@erichuff6945
@erichuff6945 5 жыл бұрын
DragonFruitXVI believe it or not there are studies in Europe that support exactly what your say. How the mental health treatment in the US is a sad joke.
@kercchan3307
@kercchan3307 5 жыл бұрын
medication only helps so much, in order to get better it takes effort from the individual
@laura53ize
@laura53ize 5 жыл бұрын
My advise for that it’s to part the rosary and go to mass that helps all that kind of problems I promise.
@patriotpie2637
@patriotpie2637 4 жыл бұрын
Kuddos to your hard work. Many of the severely ill do not have the skills/ability to fight as hard as you.
@snaggletooth5844
@snaggletooth5844 4 жыл бұрын
Its not just the chemicals that fix your brain, its the way you look at life and how you see it, an optimist will yry to be hapoy and a pessimist will try to complain, if you dont make a conscious effort it wont fade away that easily. I got Anxiety and C-PTSD and get panic attacks too sometimes. Sometimes med can help you think positively or more openly but its the gwtying used to a new wayof thinking and realizing certain things and gwtting used to those realizations that help. Anyways i hope you get well soon in the future, stay strong, PTSD can take its time so be patient with it.
@Special-Delivery57
@Special-Delivery57 4 жыл бұрын
John, you are the one reporter that I could always count on through the years. Thank you for always being brave and true.
@tarasmith8314
@tarasmith8314 5 жыл бұрын
Stossel! Thank you! I personally believe we need asylums for the seriously ill. Either that or mental health communities in which runs like a small town.
@Matt-iy3si
@Matt-iy3si 5 жыл бұрын
Shutter Island ftw haha
@AndrooUK
@AndrooUK 5 жыл бұрын
@American meme It's not fair to put libtards together with the mentally unwell.
@marywilliams9858
@marywilliams9858 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Some mental hospitals used to have their own farms in the past in the States.
@bornvillain6819
@bornvillain6819 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Ronald Reagan deinstitutionalized the mentally ill and kicked them into the streets in California in the late 60's (LPS act) and nationally as president in the 80's when he and Congress repealed the Mental health systems act. Blame liberals all you want though because they've done nothing to change it since then either. Job security for law enforcement I guess... 🙄
@ragnarok7976
@ragnarok7976 3 жыл бұрын
I had social anxiety to the point I would feel like I was crawling out of my skin in public. I didn't really need care, I got a job in retail, suffered for a while but eventually I started building social skills and my life got better. I do think there are people who are seriously mentally ill but I wonder based on my own experience how many people need serious care and how many people just need to learn to overcome what is more of a mental hang up.
@zeldaharris6876
@zeldaharris6876 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could give you a million thumbs up.
@narnia1233
@narnia1233 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree that for many people they actually do have the ability to improve themselves. It’s not easy. But possible. And I agree too that there are a few rare people with a legitimate disorder that can’t be overcome. But that’s rare. Which is good news. Because it’s rare that means we can actually support those that really can’t get better.
@dyrefate
@dyrefate Жыл бұрын
Unless you've experienced psychosis you really have no insight into how much it disrupts your thinking. I was studying astrophysics at the time I was diagnosed. When I was in psychosis I was so impaired that I lost the ability to speak at times. I thought I was dead or that the world was going to end. Voices were constantly telling me to harm myself and threatening to torture me if I didn't comply. A psychotic break is not a "mental hang up."
@robertalbanese410
@robertalbanese410 2 жыл бұрын
As a public sector internist and psychiatrist for almost my entire career, I can say with certainty that this video hits all the right notes.
@rebelassassin4427
@rebelassassin4427 5 жыл бұрын
Actually happened yesterday with my friend on the bus; the guy wasn't physically attacking anybody but he was yelling and apparently out of whack. My friend told me that he was an ex-con because he was shouting of how he was locked up; but I found out he was a veteran for the Airforce because of the bag he had, along with him giving salutes and saying what position he served under. 😕
@trailerguy5146
@trailerguy5146 5 жыл бұрын
Glad someone is actually bringing attention to this, hopefully it gains some attention
@toms6756
@toms6756 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for continuing real reporting!
@Porelorexeus
@Porelorexeus 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I have family with serious mental conditions and in the infrequent situation that there were problems with medication, problems caused by a doctor going on long vacation, they were turned away when I took them into get help. I was only able to get them treatment having the police baker act them.
@rixpix2957
@rixpix2957 5 жыл бұрын
DeBlasio is double dipping from NY coffers. What a shock.
@abeninan4017
@abeninan4017 3 жыл бұрын
900 million dollars that is.
@kevinl6231
@kevinl6231 5 жыл бұрын
Convert Evergreen State into a mental health facility. The grounds are beautiful and the students are gone.
@DreamlessSleepwalker
@DreamlessSleepwalker 4 жыл бұрын
It already is.
@cheesemccheese5780
@cheesemccheese5780 2 жыл бұрын
@@DreamlessSleepwalker lol
@snteevveetns
@snteevveetns 5 жыл бұрын
13 years in law enforcement, I agree with this!
@The_SemperFiGuy
@The_SemperFiGuy 5 жыл бұрын
John, thank you for what you do. You are arguably the most reliable, credible source reporting FACTS today. I look forward to every posting you make. Kindest regards, Gil, Largo, FL USA, Veteran, USMC
@motorcitymanman7711
@motorcitymanman7711 5 жыл бұрын
KEEP UP THE "TRUTH" John!!!
@EcoMouseChannel
@EcoMouseChannel 5 жыл бұрын
The Apple Campus would make a perfect mental health hospital. Beautiful enclosed gardens for peace and solitude. Circular building in which they can walk forever and never get lost.
@chocmilk10
@chocmilk10 3 жыл бұрын
The Vatican would be even better!
@Space.Ghost.
@Space.Ghost. 5 жыл бұрын
Stand with the 2nd folks!
@jamesspencer7185
@jamesspencer7185 5 жыл бұрын
If we start keeping these afflicted in facilities again, where are the democratic political candidates going to come from??
@tiamoore2861
@tiamoore2861 5 жыл бұрын
The meds did it in the first place
@lonebikeroftheapocalypse9527
@lonebikeroftheapocalypse9527 5 жыл бұрын
I worked with developmentally disabled adults and they can get violent at any time for nothing. I've had clients that were not known for violent behavior at all suddenly decide to destroy something or physically attack someone. Male or female made no difference. I was witness to an incident where a young adult female client lured an administrator into her room to attack the staff member with a stick. I've worked with clients that required staff involved to wear kevlar bite sleeves because the client had actually bitten chunks of flesh off a staff member's arm. Mental health care is a rapidly growing field. The numbers of mentally ill people are growing rapidly.
@sissyrayself7508
@sissyrayself7508 5 жыл бұрын
Those people ( violent mentally ill) should be euthanized.
@BobSnyderSnyderssoapbox
@BobSnyderSnyderssoapbox 5 жыл бұрын
I've been a Corrections Officer for over 22 years, and I can attest to how the population has changed. We do have a much higher percentage of the inmate population who are S.M.I. There is a tremendous difference between individuals with personality disorders, and people who are S.M.I. Dealing with the schizophrenic inmates has made my job much more difficult. The best solution I've been able to come up with has already been mentioned in the video. Make it easier to commit people with S.M.I's, and increase the number of mental institutions to handle them. They don't do well in correctional institutions. They are responsible for much higher rates of violence on other inmates, and staff. Since we are in a prison setting, we respond with physically subduing them, and placing them in special housing/segregation. They do receive help from Behavioral Health Services, and they can be housed in one of our two Mental Health Housing Units. There is a limited number of beds for them in the corrections system.
@abeninan4017
@abeninan4017 3 жыл бұрын
What is smi?
@Polyester_Avalanche
@Polyester_Avalanche 4 жыл бұрын
Why is it that every John Stossel video is 100% on point, every single time?
@edwardwest4187
@edwardwest4187 4 жыл бұрын
Being locked up without extensive court review, that's a joke. All it takes is for a judge to sign a piece of paper with your name on it.
@litigioussociety4249
@litigioussociety4249 5 жыл бұрын
We don't need the government to force people to take their meds we just need to get rid of the regulation that prevents hospitals from assessing how to treat someone, then the market can decide which programs are supported and which are rejected. An example would be the quality of hospice care having increased over time, but not as efficiently as it would have, if government wasn't regulating healthcare.
@FRN2013
@FRN2013 5 жыл бұрын
So you're against forcing people who are criminally insane to take meds? You'll fight for the right of a lunatic murderer to not take meds?
@litigioussociety4249
@litigioussociety4249 5 жыл бұрын
@@FRN2013 No, I said hospitals should be allowed to make that decision. People will support hospitals that force or subdue patients in ways they agree with, and will not support hospitals that are too lenient, too oppressive, or make too many mistakes. Right now the government makes those decisions for healthcare through regulations, licensing, public universities, etc., So they don't openly compete.
@internetrules8522
@internetrules8522 5 жыл бұрын
if you haven't committed a crime you shouldnt be forcibly imprisoned, just because some peoples brains have "wrong think" doesnt mean you can imprison them, and force drugs on them.
@ByakuyaReborn
@ByakuyaReborn 5 жыл бұрын
dA mArKeT
@fernandoacuna1471
@fernandoacuna1471 5 жыл бұрын
Deregulation is what caused this issue to severe in the first place
@kennethkristiansen6958
@kennethkristiansen6958 5 жыл бұрын
Start swinging a pipe at me, I am opening fire.
@Ricardo0362
@Ricardo0362 5 жыл бұрын
I agree! At least I will defend myself with anything!
@joebrady9575
@joebrady9575 4 жыл бұрын
CCW
@colins1358
@colins1358 4 жыл бұрын
Pussys
@tommychen6102
@tommychen6102 4 жыл бұрын
So murdering these people would solve the problem? I thought this was America, not Nazi Germany :/
@wPJyat
@wPJyat 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommychen6102 its called self defense lol. Apparently you're not allowed to defend yourself anymore or you're a Nazi? Sounds like someone is a cuck.
@frank-ts1yr
@frank-ts1yr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about people who need help with this. It's not easy living with it.
@aliencatcrew3336
@aliencatcrew3336 5 жыл бұрын
The old bald guy that was animated said "I argue all the time with the ones I love." That's called AN ITALIAN FAMILY STUNOD!!!
@mariawinter2535
@mariawinter2535 5 жыл бұрын
As usual, as humans we over correct and we take decades to fix the problem because we are ennapt at facing our mistakes in a timely manner. 1st we (warehouse) wrong!, Then we( let them run the streets) wrong! Let's do both according to their problem. Why should I be at risk ?
@interwebtubes
@interwebtubes 5 жыл бұрын
Hey john , I’ve seen lots of down right crazy things on the NYC METRO ( subway), And I really don’t know how the various officers in either the NYPD , Or the transit authority are able to keep it together so well in such a limited space especially when wearing a uniform, Because those crazies know right where to go to vent and act like animals!!, My hats off to all of those officers who help keep us safe, even in an uncomfortable place!!, Thanks again for the report!!, And safe travels everyone!!
@R..Montana
@R..Montana 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. What you've just presented in this video is exactly but I've known for many years. I'm glad you have done a story on this and educated people.
@Warlanda
@Warlanda 5 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for covering this vital subject!
@LittleHatori
@LittleHatori 5 жыл бұрын
"Their just in jails instead of in asylums." "Treating streeting" "The ability to get care is definitely inverse to need." "Being psychotic is not a right to be protected." "The seriously mentally ill." These things is not what my teacher told me in Human Services class. This definitely would have changed my view... This rly hits me hard. I come from mentally Ill family and now I'm realizing I've been properly "educated" by propaganda to think our biggest battle for helping Ill ppl is decreasing stigma, improving access to education, and family support. And for the non seriously mentally Ill who have maturity yes. But for the seriously mentally Ill it's obvious they need stricter intervention, hospitals, 24 hour survelliance.
@TheMrShnickers
@TheMrShnickers 5 жыл бұрын
Stossel please make video interview with Larry Sharpe he’s a libertarian candidate for the governor of New York
@abeninan4017
@abeninan4017 3 жыл бұрын
There is no point in having elections without voter id.
@dantompkins2584
@dantompkins2584 3 жыл бұрын
Wait what Should've voted for him instead
@drc5740
@drc5740 5 жыл бұрын
John stossel is part of my self learning program. Keep up the videos John thank you.
@marshawoods4983
@marshawoods4983 5 жыл бұрын
I have first-hand experience with this my son went through hell ended up in prison for 13 years and then got out year-and-a-half later and committed suicide.... He had attempted it 3 times before.... Keeps 34 years old and left behind three daughters... Society in the courts failed him.. we tried and tried for years to get him the proper help and kept running into brick walls...I love John stossel and this man he has on here is definitely speaking the truth!!!!
@joannegonzalez647
@joannegonzalez647 4 жыл бұрын
The therapist has to see the patient ho is admitted at least 2times a week until there discharge programs are not enough wen they leave they should get home care even the homeless deserve it were is the real compassion 🙏💝❤️...
@DJ7tringGuitar
@DJ7tringGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
As always, good food for thought
@jimmcintyre4390
@jimmcintyre4390 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this forward.
@newsjunkie3000
@newsjunkie3000 5 жыл бұрын
Loving John Stossel on KZbin! Thank you!
@jessicasmith5728
@jessicasmith5728 4 жыл бұрын
This really hits close to home. My mother's on the streets after having a complete mental breakdown nine years ago. I don't know how long she can survive out there. We (my family) tried to get her committed and she was switched back and forth between two hospitals before walking out of one back in December 2011. She honestly should've been locked down in the psych ward. A lot of people with mental illness are actually homeless because they (like Stossel said) stopped taking their meds and lost touch with reality. That being said, there are plenty of people who have mental illness and have learned to cope with it. And because of that, they're living their lives like everyone else.
@frankbayer3787
@frankbayer3787 5 жыл бұрын
I am 61 i remember when Heraldo Rivera sneaked into a Creedmore with a camera took a picture
@robertwoodpa6463
@robertwoodpa6463 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. So now we have them on the street. Much better right?
@jfmc2581
@jfmc2581 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to see this!! People need to be told to Man up!! Or toughen up!! again!! It should be seen a narcissistic to talk so much about your anxiety, stress, loneliness. These narcissists are taking the much needed care away from the truly sick!
@SurRon-GLE
@SurRon-GLE 5 жыл бұрын
More like 3 of every 5 in New York and California
@agentorange20
@agentorange20 5 жыл бұрын
“Okay but why do you think you need to always carry a knife and a firearm?” Roll it Stossel...
@ValFckGoogle
@ValFckGoogle 5 жыл бұрын
I despise the conflating of "depression" with serious mental disorders and illnesses. It's far too commonplace nowadays. You even seen fundraisers trying to tell people that they aren't normal if they're sad, but it's clinical depression.
@DontKillAnts
@DontKillAnts 5 жыл бұрын
I would urge you to have a conversation with a mental health professional concerning the difference between sadness and clinical depression. Perhaps you might want to look at the DSM-V criteria for Major Depressive Disorder. It doesn't exactly look like "being sad". Individuals with severe depression can lose their memory capacity as it can actually cause brain damage over time.
@AndrooUK
@AndrooUK 5 жыл бұрын
Depression is life threatening and disabling. It leads to many sick hours, disability welfare, and deaths by suicide. It ruins educational attainment. A depressive episode can take months or years to recover from with the lost time and money, if ever. Just 'being sad' is not a serious disorder, but depression most definitely is. Whether or not it is commonplace is irrelevant. It is just as serious no matter if it affects one person or one hundred million people.
@DontKillAnts
@DontKillAnts 5 жыл бұрын
Did you even read my comment before replying to it?
@DontKillAnts
@DontKillAnts 5 жыл бұрын
No, that's not what I was implying. I was just using MDD as an example of how clinical depression is not "just being sad"
@willsrlutz6842
@willsrlutz6842 5 жыл бұрын
You know that depression is a real condition that affects society in many ways?
@reneemcgraw6833
@reneemcgraw6833 5 жыл бұрын
Yes we do
@unionyankee1163
@unionyankee1163 5 жыл бұрын
But what if there really was a ruby red time reversal system in the capital basement?
@zelda12346
@zelda12346 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very complicated issue because from a voluntarist side, these people are not fully capable of being responsible. So the argument becomes very similar to dealing with violent children who can't be socialized. However, there are no 'parents' or people who naturally hold power of attorney. thus, the answer is very muddied. For the sake of what Stossel says, I would advocate simply converging mental hospitals with prisons. At least that way, you have to have due process before being locked up in either prison or a hospital. Plus, if you're schizophrenic but aren't harmful to your neighbors, you shouldn't be locked up either. My view is that punishment is more accurate and more effective when the punishment is post hoc instead of anticipating bad outcomes.
@tomlaureys1734
@tomlaureys1734 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with that approach is that you're waiting until people get killed in a mass shooting before you treat the mentally ill person. That's what happened with Adam Lanza and Nicholas Cruz. If they had been in a mental hospital a lot of lives would have been saved. Unfortunately the family members, who know that their loved one is mentally ill, cannot have them involuntarily committed to a mental hospital. The policy of closing all the mental hospitals in the 1970s was a mistake. The politicians need to recognize that mistake and change the law.
@TheMormonSorceress
@TheMormonSorceress 4 жыл бұрын
I remember my mentality ill sister went crazy at a Cosco over what she felt was a stupid rule they have. Thankfully no one got hurt
@bigghettomomma
@bigghettomomma 5 жыл бұрын
I have been diagnosed with Border line personality disorder. I am very high functioning. This means I am able to look at my symptoms and determine if I need medication and maybe out patient counseling. Others with my disorder are more severe. They have difficulty having their symptoms and determining a need for assistance. Public funds need to be used to help the more severe, not me. I know to take my medication and I have coping strategies and a strong support system. I do not need large amounts of funds allocated to me. Thank you for bringing up this issue and acknowledging the need for public funding to help not those with anxiety or minor depression but help those that truly need it most.
@angeladangela500
@angeladangela500 9 ай бұрын
I wonder what the rate is for successfully treating the mentally ill … is it even possible?
@tomlawrence3991
@tomlawrence3991 4 жыл бұрын
When are we going to ban assault pipes
@Redmanticore
@Redmanticore 2 жыл бұрын
very smart tom
@teriw56
@teriw56 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there Tom.:)
@russellm7530
@russellm7530 5 жыл бұрын
People in general, seem to have just been getting much more rude and worse over the last many years. Its way deeper than what this video is saying. Seems my whole life Ive always heard how politicians, Lawyers, corporations, the Government, even the religions basically operate in a very psychopathic if not evil way. If things don't start changing for the better, Being more Humane, from the top on down I see little hope. Sad. So sad.
@nunyoubusyness6345
@nunyoubusyness6345 5 жыл бұрын
John, now you are getting to the heart of a serious failure of our so-called "modern" age. Please continue...
@unknownfrost8367
@unknownfrost8367 5 жыл бұрын
I might have to do some research into this ruby red...I think he is telling the truth
@jeb791
@jeb791 5 жыл бұрын
If not taking your medicine makes you freak out and attack random people keeping them in hospital is best course of action
@AndrooUK
@AndrooUK 5 жыл бұрын
There are antipsychotics that can be injected that last several weeks, so that you can compel medication but still allow for living in the community. Involuntary detention isn't the only solution (but I do concur that hospitals do have a real benefit and should always be an option for involuntary and voluntary detention).
@s.topper9918
@s.topper9918 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the psychiatrists take patients off meds and they go mad. Other times they prescribe them a mad cocktail of meds. The side effects can be terrible. Multiply that by... however many prescriptions a patient is taking... The mental patient has no rights when it comes down to it. They are at the mercy of the doctor. The patient doesn't necessarily always just up and quit the meds. Often times it's far more complicated than that.
@IndigoEuphonium
@IndigoEuphonium 5 жыл бұрын
That 1/5 New Yorkers seems a bit too high for me, and I think we really should specialize and help the mentally ill who really need it
@cg0825
@cg0825 3 жыл бұрын
Being someone with severe depression and anxiety during most of my 20's and 30's I can relate to how messed up the system is. I wanted help, I got to a point where I knew things were bad. However I couldn't get an appointment for 2 or 3 months despite being in crisis that day. Telling someone to go to an ER or dial 911 is often the best people can offer though that is typically not the best option. ER's are chaotic and there are a lot of things people must attend to so often it comes down to giving the person enough meds to calm them and see what can be done next which may be very little. Hence "catch and release". Even if you can get someone in on an involuntary basis that typically can only happen with several mental health professionals determining that the person is a safety risk of harming themselves (suicidal) or others (homicidal). Even then, someone can typically only be held a certain number of days and after that they either have to be released or are given the option to sign in voluntarily which sadly the sickest people don't know that their behavior and beliefs are irrational (such as the man trying to break in the Capitol basement to get to what he believed was the time reversal device). In his mind or the mind of anyone with a psychotic disorder (such as schizophrenia for example) that is very real...in his mind people are out to get him. Medication can help but the person has to take it consistently and if they run out or can't afford it or hit other roadblocks in their care, they could end up back to where they started. I do my best to advocate for people with mental illness, especially young adults and older teens as they seem to be the forgotten group. That is when my depression hit and nobody really knew back then how to handle someone who was destined for college but had to leave at that point in time ( I finished later).
@danaturgal4941
@danaturgal4941 4 жыл бұрын
Dr.Jaffe, THANK you for speaking up for this NEED in America!! Bring back long term care hospitals ( call them campuses) The severe, persistent mentally ill need TREATMENT not INCARCERATION! This will provide health and dignity to those affected by such illnesses and create a wealth of jobs. Mental health long term hospitals can be created that have a positve culture and healing environment for individuals, families and communities. Treating addiction and substance abuse needs to have a revival too!
@colins1358
@colins1358 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. Guy was inspirational and very well spoken.
@AccordionJoe1
@AccordionJoe1 5 жыл бұрын
The crazies are all around us. That's why I carry my pistol 24-7.
@thesoul2871
@thesoul2871 5 жыл бұрын
Most of it is because the side effects of medication...
@marygriffin1604
@marygriffin1604 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I just found you again on a Stephen Crowder video. I agree 100% with his compliments to you. I am delighted to be able to sample your wisdom once again.
@Soulintent95
@Soulintent95 5 жыл бұрын
Im usually pretty conservative, and ive spent a lot of my life trying to deny the real picture when it comes to mental illness. Because i have lots of problems myself in that area. Every time ive ever gotten myself into serious trouble, its cuz i stopped taking meds. Ive since been able to recognize not only myself and my actions, but why i need the meds i take. Ive sobered up, stopped abusing people i care about, im not angry at all times, im not depressed at all times. Im not all over the place any more. As someone who genuinely is mentally ill, i get very frustrated with the system in place. People get prescribed meds that work for me but dont for them, and they abuse them. People look at mental illness differently than they should. People belittle it. Make fun of it more than they should. Not sure how to solve this... but i wish we could.
@nobodygrinder5667
@nobodygrinder5667 4 жыл бұрын
That's the most fake sort of compassion I ever heard
@StoutAdventureCo
@StoutAdventureCo 5 жыл бұрын
Two beautiful words solve this problem, Conceal Carry.
@Ricardo0362
@Ricardo0362 5 жыл бұрын
At least a Taser!
@PatrickBaptist
@PatrickBaptist 4 жыл бұрын
No, OPEN carry. Most states don't allow it, but mine does and it prevents people from even wanting to talk to you, I love it.
@tammyderouet
@tammyderouet 5 жыл бұрын
🌷JUST SUBBED YOU! OMG. Just saw you on STEVEN CROWDER and I freaked! I hadn't seen you in years and I confess I had completely forgotten about you. So I ran to inquiry,and as an atheist I found myself praying you had a KZbin channel, and here we are! I've been sharing your channel with everyone I know, not for you, but for them. They are so happy they are freaking as well. Please do more interviews on other channels. People want to see you again. 😎 Big fan. Can't wait to see your videos. With with respect and admiration, JeTamme Derouet. 💕
@watchdealer11
@watchdealer11 4 жыл бұрын
Cruel and unusual punishment.
@gabriellanunoffyourbeeswax8367
@gabriellanunoffyourbeeswax8367 3 жыл бұрын
Always said asylums should come back. Asylums should be better managed.
@michaz.3075
@michaz.3075 5 жыл бұрын
"The task of evaluating the processes of man’s subconscious is the province of psychology. Psychology does not regard its subject morally, but medically - i.e., from the aspect of health or malfunction (with cognitive competence as the proper standard of health)." ~ Ayn Rand, The Objectivist, March 1971, 5
@camcam2457
@camcam2457 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with this.
@kevw25
@kevw25 5 жыл бұрын
Again. Spot on. As a police officer, I think you are 100% correct.
@michaelwright3053
@michaelwright3053 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I carry mace foam and an extendable baton
@bluetickfreddy101
@bluetickfreddy101 4 жыл бұрын
We visited california state mental hospital “Agnews” as seniors in 1977 on a field trip Just sayin
@tiamoore2861
@tiamoore2861 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! Anxiety is not a real illness
@tiamoore2861
@tiamoore2861 5 жыл бұрын
The Fuzz it isn't male or female pursay, it is diagnosing a normal feeling into a disease so that you can generate a new demand for drugs. Men are diagnosed with depression more and women with anxiety but both are just symptoms not causes and inflated symptoms at that. We have become a society that doesn't believe in the human experience anymore, no one should be sad! Take a pill! But granted the real crazies are ignored because those people don't have money.
@fredericksaturnine4167
@fredericksaturnine4167 4 жыл бұрын
The foods and medications are the problem. The government is the problem
@sarjim4381
@sarjim4381 5 жыл бұрын
The important thing is to deal with the most dangerous and violent persons. The only way to do that is reopen or build new secure treatment facilities with two levels of care. One is a temporary confinement until a patient gets the right medication and shows they will continue to take their medication. For those whom medications don't help and remain violent, or those who consistently refuse to take their medication and remain violent, they will need confinement until a medication is found, or some psychiatric treatment is found, that will make them not a risk to the public. In some cases, that will mean lifetime confinement. The only other option is these people roaming the streets assaulting, injuring, and killing people. Enough is enough.
@juneyshu6197
@juneyshu6197 5 жыл бұрын
Well said we see it every time we go out, it is terrifying.
@smallfaucet
@smallfaucet 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah right. Keep them on their meds and the cash register full!
@jeanp.5929
@jeanp.5929 3 жыл бұрын
Medication is the only means we have of treating psychosis. It's a lot more effective than you think. One could argue the side effects aren't worth the benefits that anti-psychotics provide psychotic individuals but it really is a game changer. Someone that seems incompetent, violent, and belligerent can completely transform into a coherent and sensible person in a few months. The cost of providing these medications to an individual, let a alone a population of people, can cost thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars over one's lifetime. The situation is not easily solved when money is such a big issue and big pharma stands to benefit substantially in financial gains. Unfortunately, this is how it is.
@smallfaucet
@smallfaucet 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeanp.5929 Perhaps is our society could treat others humanely and assure everyone has an equal chance at having the basic needs met we could start there.
@jeanp.5929
@jeanp.5929 3 жыл бұрын
@@smallfaucet By all means. Our society has a lot of inequality. It hurts me to see people that seriously need medical care that aren't receiving it.
@janetcarbone4213
@janetcarbone4213 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u for the truth. Finally
@rosannecoffman1933
@rosannecoffman1933 5 жыл бұрын
These people should be confined for our safety and theirs. Asylums don't have to be horrorible
@bannanman3296
@bannanman3296 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the whole justice system needa to be reformed towards rehabilitation rather theb punishment the punishment should be we take away your freedom to rehabilitate you for a period of time
@charlesferdinand422
@charlesferdinand422 4 жыл бұрын
Come on this is sensationalism, mentally ill people are 5 times more likely to be victims of crimes than to commit them; these clips present only the ocassional extreme examples in the worst possible scenarios, but these are very rare. What a shame Mr. Stossel you are always so objective and serious!
@mrhollow8697
@mrhollow8697 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I believe of what your saying is true. Mental illness as it self is very tricky to solve but the matter on this topic, these people either way need to be treated by professionals violent or not.
@jasonharrison25
@jasonharrison25 5 жыл бұрын
I think the question should be: why is there so many people with mental health issues? Seems we are treating the symptoms and not the source of the problem
@trailblazer632
@trailblazer632 5 жыл бұрын
A fine line to walk. Giving enough power to allow the state to help mentally ill without giving them so much it gets abused and used against the general public...
@AarmOZ84
@AarmOZ84 5 жыл бұрын
But... but.... John! What about the keyboard social justice warriors who need an emotional support animal? Aren't their "anixiety disorder" more important than a homeless person with untreated psychosis? ;)
@gregoryeverson741
@gregoryeverson741 5 жыл бұрын
i hate how every1 has anxiety/panic attacks all the time now, so many teens/youn adults all say they have problems with it
@cravinbob
@cravinbob 5 жыл бұрын
So you think it is not real real? Come and visit me sir.
@donsuh1105
@donsuh1105 5 жыл бұрын
@@cravinbob thata not what the person is saying
@collinhennessy6480
@collinhennessy6480 5 жыл бұрын
Being homeless for long enough will cause psychosis. The lack of sleep, the rats crawling on them at night, the frequent derogatory terms strangers shout at them, and the frequent harassment they get from cops will do it. A couple nights good sleep in a safe place indoors will generally snap most out of it.
@marywilliams9858
@marywilliams9858 5 жыл бұрын
@@donsuh1105 What is a keyboard person?
@zzajlatem9501
@zzajlatem9501 3 жыл бұрын
1:30 did anyone check the basement for a time reversal system?
@dantompkins2584
@dantompkins2584 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha lol lmao
@malcorub
@malcorub 5 жыл бұрын
In California we have State Hospitals for the seriously mentally ill who are violent and a danger to the community. Do other states have this?
@sliedogg
@sliedogg 5 жыл бұрын
Anger ....
@agentorange20
@agentorange20 5 жыл бұрын
Can we just follow George Carlin’s wisdom and just drop all those ‘fun people’ off onto their own remote island? There they can have all the fun they want arguing and stimulating conversations with fellow mentally ill. We can live stream the events to a pay per view style programming.
@sissyrayself7508
@sissyrayself7508 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea. I agree with you.
@conanthedestroyer7123
@conanthedestroyer7123 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the police walking their beat, working the street, and talking to the locals?
@LisaCupcake
@LisaCupcake 5 жыл бұрын
They haven't done that in years. No matter what kind of neighborhood you live in, whether it's urban, suburban, etc., you only see the cops when they have to show up for a call. They don't have a regular presence in neighborhoods or have that rapport with those that they serve anymore.
@conanthedestroyer7123
@conanthedestroyer7123 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know the real reason no cops walk a beat. Perhaps someone experienced in the city can say, but most cops do not chat on Facebook and KZbin.
@AaronHollander314
@AaronHollander314 5 жыл бұрын
You'd need millions of cops
@itsnotatoober
@itsnotatoober 5 жыл бұрын
You could have a series dedicated to the systemic problems dealt with by the mentally ill and it would go on forever. If you want to cry, work in a mental health facility anywhere in this country.
@todd77777772000
@todd77777772000 4 жыл бұрын
The truth is compassion doesn't equal profit.
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