Stossel: The medical system is stupidly bad

[@Novelera05]

We need John Stossel, he’s one of the last true journalists in this country! I’m so glad he was able to beat this horrific disease and is ok.

[@anthonymartinez4780]

Its because he's a libertarian not a dumbass liberal or conservative

[@OggerFN]

he was able to beat this horrific disease because he had 100000$

[@tech-hilfeportal6611]

@Heber gonzalez why?

[@rahulagarwal4976]

@@OggerFN exactly and that's the point he is making.

[@OggerFN]

@@rahulagarwal4976 yes

[@davidh376]

Stossel is the only real journalist left

[@schertz8]

Epoch news. One America news Wall Street journal gets it right half the time.

[@Rean-the-Bean]

You mean Cuomo and Lemmon aren’t?

[@mariopiazza3379]

@@Rean-the-Bean Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha that's funny

[@sirmount2636]

Glen Greenwald is decent too.

[@Arthur_Hastings]

*right

[@techguy651]

Not only do people not talk about money, we are actively DISCOURAGED from asking. When my daughter was in the hospital and I was constantly asking about the costs and fees, I was directly accused of not wanting what was best for her. OF COURSE I want what’s best for her! What’s best for her is if I can keep food on our table and I’m not having half my paycheck garnished for medical debt! And refusing treatment for a child (even obviously frivolous treatment) mandates a call to CPS with a follow up investigation.

[@TerryTateOfficeLinebacker760]

Bureaucracy protecting bureaucracy...feelsbiggovernmentman

[@kadrianstahley1241]

Try Naturopathic doctors!

[@techguy651]

Kaden Stahley: unfortunately there’s no naturopathic remedy to remove an inhaled object from the lungs.

[@tomlaureys1734]

It's because of things like this that I once told my girlfriend that I do not want to have children in a country where the children belong to the government and don't really belong to us because we cannot make all of the decisions for our own children.

[@harmanjotsingh4230]

very similar to what I remember I was 12 when my little sister had an emergency and we were told you to get her on a helicopter (Bay area traffick sucks and the best children's hospital near was in Oakland), barely even had my mother's permission and we were denied info about costs

[@VegetoStevieD]

The most important thing about Obamacare is the inclusion of the insurance companies. You see, hospitals can't be taxed, but if you put the money through an insurance company first, it becomes possible to tax it. Roughly 30%. It's more of a tax scheme than a health care plan.

[@klharrell7722]

Khechari for profit hospitals pay millions in taxes

[@KalRandom]

The best thing about Obama care was the ability to have a pre-existing condition and still be able to get insurance. At 45 you can't sue to be covered on something that happened when you were 5, but insurance company's would not insure you because you had previous problems.

[@stacksamillion8510]

The best thing about Obamacare was forcing people to buy a service from a private company or get on government health care or be penalized for it.

[@christinewatson1989]

This man is a treasure, may he live long and healthy.

[@marshawoods9078]

I am so happy for you John I'm sorry you left.. Look forward to seeing you on some other program in the near future? I just admire and love style of reporting

[@bobuxman5034]

He has his own KZbin channel

[@matthewrix1047]

I love how the host brings on the doctor thinking he’s going to make Stossel look like he’s over exaggerating and he just flat agrees with Stossel

[@jeffrockit]

It's all planned out before it goes live. If you don't think Varney knew the Dr would agree with JS, you don't understand how televised media works.

[@curioustgeorge]

Govt consistently caused all these root cause issues. They wrote the tax code that encourages employers to provide medical insurance. They created Medicare which used fee for service that incentivized over billing. They created the malpractice laws that encourage lawyers to profit in the system. They make the Cert of Need laws that reduce competition amongst lab, pharmacy, and other healthcare companies. They create the regulations and red tape that make entrepreneurs and small business less interested to innovate in healthcare so only the big players remain. They allow insurance companies and hospitals to be non-profit though they have margins paralleling that of for profit hospitals, insurance companies etc.

[@adrianafamilymember6427]

He speaks the word of truth.

[@highlightsbottleflipnbanfl1847]

Its like my union rep always used to tell us, the company has lots of money. Then I figured out that the money the company had all came from everyday Joe's that bought our product's. We weren't taking more from the company, we were taking more from the consumers. Average everyday people I saw every weekend.

[@davham27]

I like how my insurance company decides which test I can and can't get even if the doctor thinks it's necessary to diagnose me or help treat me.

[@maxdembroski7956]

They have different plans for different things for that reason. Plan A costs $100 a month with a $800 deductible doesn’t cover MRIs, but Plan B with its $150 monthly premiums and $700 deductible does.

[@SandfordSmythe]

Your insurance company may be more astute and objective than your own doctor. They have more access to professional research to validate interventions and have no need to feed you candy to make you happy. This saves everyone's insurance costs.

[@Dartht33bagger]

I'm going through that right now. My doctor knows I have a tendon issue. Insurance requires an xray before an MRI. So here I am waiting for the boxes to be checked before I can get the test I actually need.

[@tedpert1360]

The government should get. OUT OF THE medical field!

[@donnamaco1]

The insurance companies are not necessary and they with all the paper pushers and administrative pushers and supervisors supervising are what is raking us over the coals.

[@Uncletoast52]

They couldn't run a snow cone stand on a hot day.

[@donnamaco1]

@@Uncletoast52 The government does not run it. Government simply pays your bill. Doctors would NOW be in charge of your care, not a bean counter, middleman from insurance company. Hope you do not mail any letters or go to the library as these are examples of our government. We don't need middlemen Insurance companies scooping up monolithic profit.

[@donnamaco1]

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[@Uncletoast52]

@@donnamaco1 our Gov. Needs term limits. Bet we agree on that. Career politicians can ruin anything.

[@jesusreignsforever2561]

I love John Stossal! Good luck to you John.

[@Danijones4571]

Agreed. As someone who has a lot of health issues. We need to be giving feedback about the system. I've seen some appalling things that need to be changed that you wouldn't believe.

[@davidking4779]

It is not exactly like no one cares what it costs, it is that they feel that they have no control over what it costs. Insurance companies and Government have full control of costs and systems.

[@rafalkaminski6389]

Youre trying to be precise, but what is the difference in outcome? I also wonder from some freudian (or behaviorist?) perspective how to distinguish people WHO dont care about costs from these feeling not having Control on costs.

[@davidking4779]

@@rafalkaminski6389 "We the people" know that we have little control over costs. Some products we will buy no matter what the cost. Some products we will buy less or not at all because we deem the value too high for our budget.

[@mmmdazzagoodmemeayzzz7264]

Stossel is going to go down as a legend

[@gabrielsandoval7331]

As a lawyer I must say that lawyers are probably the primary reason why doctors don’t utilize emails etc. Emails are essentially a trail of evidence. Can you imagine a doctor getting email after email all day, sometimes many from the same patient, and the doctor overlooks an email, misses a follow-up question, misdiagnosis a patient, etc.? That would be pretty much the smoking gun to liability. Any litigator would be salivating at this type of fact pattern.

[@NatsumeKonno]

My doctor sends me emails. If the doctor is busy there is a email staff team to answer questions but the doctor does get notified if the email team cant answer it.

[@brianfranklin9163]

Try being a veteran. The administrators hire people to practice medicine as if they are doctors. The people in this category that I have had experiences with are foreigners who have degrees that are not recognized by the federal government and they don't have medical licenses or those licenses were acquired under false credentials. Add to that, they are culturally incompatible and the VA does not even try to correct their contemptuous behavior. The VA did not pay 250,000 doctors for their honest services. It is a conspiracy where $1B is unaccounted for. Now, most private doctors won't have anything to do with the VA. Those private doctors were only getting sixty cents on the dollar anyway. I certainly don't want to tar the rest of the medical staff with the same brush. It is purely the management that is indifferent to the veterans but the foreign doctors that I have had experiences with have contempt for us veterans. We should not have to suffer this.

[@5002strokeforever]

That's what you fought for... And now that you got it you're complaining about it...

[@johnconley8316]

You make very excellent observations. I would add, too, that for anyone wanting socialized medicine, all they have to do is look at the VA system to get an idea of what government run medicine brings.

[@saiga12forme88]

@@johnconley8316 You beat me to it. I use that example for people who want government run healthcare.

[@johnconley8316]

@@saiga12forme88 Thanks for commenting. I am a physician and received much of my medical school education at the Hines VA outside Chicago. The education was fine and Hines is probably one of the better VA's (or at least, it was) and I knew some outstanding physicians there but I can tell you that since I entered practice many years ago I have countless veterans as patients who absolutely do not want to get their care at the local VA. I can even remember as a kid going with my Dad (a physician) as he made hospital rounds that things were so drastically different (and not in a good way) when he rounded at the VA as opposed to the private hospitals. The VA, as you so rightly indicated, should be the canary in the mine as to what to expect from government run facilities.

[@saiga12forme88]

@@johnconley8316 I had a friend who had been going to the VA for a good 5 years trying to figure out his health problems which they could not. He finally jumped through the hoops for them to allow him to see an outside doctor in the private sector and that doctor determined the issue pretty quickly and after some operations he has been doing much better. I know anyone can cherry pick stories to support one side or another but I firmly believe I do NOT want the government involved in my healthcare even as much as it currently is let alone giving them more control. It's my money/body/liberty and I should have my choice. But hey, there's black markets for everything else the government bans, might as well be one for the private healthcare too.

[@jimmysparks315]

We have both a public & private health system in Australia. I've been a public patient all my life, spent some 200 days in many different hospitals and as far as I know got the the same treatment / care as private patients... I have no complaints about anything...

[@quantumfrost9467]

I too live in australia, the public care isnt bad but the private is much better. Just expensive right

[@jimmysparks315]

@@quantumfrost9467 Better... how ?.... I've spent over 200 days in many different hospitals for several auto accidents and I got the best health care known to man... Private would have been no better just cost shitloads more....

[@dennisgray3521]

I have been saying this for years about 3rd party payers and lawyers.

[@beng4151]

It's because the AMA blocks nearly all competition. There is so much regulation over the medical industry it's hard to have any competition. Guess who gets to decide if a new hospital should be built in a city? The state hospital board. Guess who's on the state hospital board?

[@midiman1007]

Something I found out personally is that the medical system doesn't keep patient records indefinitely. If you need a record older than 6 or 7 years ... good luck. There won't be any paper or digital records much older than that. Many keep microfish records that can be recalled thru special request. I just assumed that the records would last as long as I did.

[@tedpert1360]

John stossel is right !

[@betawithbrett7068]

John Stossel is a hero in News.

[@waynelast1685]

Shame on our government and business leaders for now creating a better system.

[@coachvolpato]

I have to say, my doctors at NYU Langone Medical Associates (Garden City, NY) are the complete opposite of everything Mr. Stossel said about his medical care. My office uses technology to communicate and give me access to my records, they text and email reminders before and email surveys after, the waiting area is clean comfortable with a working tv, wait time is minimal and I never feel rushed. They are excellent! Lou V

[@goldwinger5434]

They overbook because the insurance companies beat them up continuously. Charge the patient$100, insurance pays $20 and the patient pays $10. That means that for a 10 AM appointment, you are supposed to get there at 9:45 to finally see the doctor at 10:30. And you get a whopping 15 minutes of his time. To make matter worse, now the doctor spends the entire time tapping at the computer keyboard and never looks at you while you're speaking.

[@gverhoeff39]

I remember recently someone mentioned that they increased the about of data they needed to input , they said 90 percent of the time was spent putting things in their tablet instead of treating the patient .

[@WECantThink]

I got an MRI for less than $600. 3MV too. Twice as fast as regular MRI. When I asked how much it cost, most had no idea...

[@siddharthasingh1977]

I got MRI for 100$ in less than 4 hours (including 45min in the MRI machine)

[@tedpert1360]

The best to you j stossel!

[@wach9191]

I'm too European to understand this mess.

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

Lol same. As a Brit I agree that the US system is a mess, because it financially cripples the sickest, poorest and most disadvantaged in society. I would hate to live with such a system. Saving lives and keeping people healthy is too important to be left to the selfish whims of capitalism.

[@insertoyouroemail]

I'm Swedish and I understand perfectly well that everything the state touches turns rotten.

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

@@insertoyouroemail It depends on the current ruling party and how willing they are to properly fund it. That's why the NHS has been going downhill under the conservative government. But I'd still rather have that than a healthcare system consisting of a maze of privately owned businesses whose primary goal is making money and profiteering from people's need to stay alive.

[@insertoyouroemail]

@@Pining_for_the_fjords There is no political party that "have what it takes" to "do it right". With that kind of thinking you've set up a system for failure because it means that you have to win every election to get your desired outcome lest it'll disappear as soon as you lose an election or your party becomes populated with "the wrong politicians".

[@taxslave5906]

@Pining for the fjords, when has any government done anything well? Socialism is greedy, not capitalism. Socialism is about stealing money from more successful people. Real capitalism (capitalism that is interfered with by the government) is about getting what is rightfully yours rather than getting stolen stuff. Entrepreneurs are many times better at running healthcare rather than bureaucrats running it. The problem is that the government is the reason why healthcare is so expensive. Pharmaceutical companies have patents for drugs, meaning that they have a monopoly so they charge enormous prices for hospitals to buy the products. The government also imposes massive amounts of regulations which means that hospitals have to get lawyers, legal advice etc which is very expensive. The government also imposes massive taxes in different forms which also largely increases the cost of healthcare. How is capitalism selfish? It provides a voluntary exchange of goods and services and it is ethical as people who don’t like working for someone else can be self-employed. Capitalism incentives entrepreneurs and business people to provide the goods and services as best as possible as people will stop using it, resulting in losses or bankruptcy. Socialism is greed, capitalism is need. Socialism teaches people to take/steal. Capitalism teaches people to make/produce.

[@marcycarson2130]

This is crisis now...2019. Dr.s don't treat their patients very much. Insurance made the rules we're all suffering under. Socialized Medical Services means... Tests, charges, billing.. and of course, massive sums taken from every working American every month. Not going to work well for anyone except....the insurance companies.

[@wednesdayschild3627]

My son wisdom teeth removal 2700 dollars. Because I do not have insurance, he said we do not need iv sedation. Doctors are more likely to order more, if you have insurance.

[@ZillasCoop]

I have a crazy high deductible - so I pay for most of my care... but since it goes through insurance first, they treat me as secondary to the insurance company ... can never tell me how much something is going to cost upfront .. its maddening

[@ilovebrandnewcarpets]

I don't even have to watch the video. The title enough is an immediate thumbs up.

[@jackvai2681]

IT'S AN INDUSTRY... ALL INDUSTRIES ARE PROFIT MOTIVATED... THEREIN LIES THE FAILURE. WE USED TO HAVE 'MEDICAL ARTS'...

[@billrhoasts5456]

Doctors do indeed have terrible customer service. How many of you have made an appointment with a doctor only to arrive on time, even early, for your appointment, and still end up waiting for hours to see the doctor? Try making an appointment in any other profession, especially in the business world, and make your client wait. See how far you get in that business. But when it comes to doctors, they get away with it as if their time is somehow more valuable than yours. They simply have no respect for their CLIENTS. Not patients. Clients!

[@quantumfrost9467]

They are also pressed between a lot of other things.i wouldnt give the whole blame to them

[@bobstadelmayer8402]

Our healthcare system is broken, but Obamacare or single payer definitely isn't the answer. Everytime we hand another aspect our lives over to the government, we lose another one of our freedoms.

[@blessedwithchallenges9917]

Thanks John.

[@thomasrobinson182]

Most don't get sued. They have arbitration agreements that favor providers and insurers.

[@YourTransmissionRepair]

I was told by my doctor's office the reason they don't use Email or texts is due to HIPPA laws.

[@thomast3570]

Too lazy or ignorant to deal with it.

[@crunchhardtack6514]

The libertarian view is the purest form of Americanism. Small central government; free markets; educational choices; no Nanny State; no Warfare State. Freedom.

[@jvl2552]

Why would any young intelligent college student with a competitive GPA go to medical school these days? More than 10 years of your life and hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt to constantly be in the middle of Insurance, government, and patients who are unhappy about the system. It is hard enough just to take good care of people. We should be so grateful that we still have good doctors willing to put up with all this stuff on a daily basis.

[@thomast3570]

Maybe some patient-dedicated physicians would help to start with.

[@daveberry5901]

John Stossel my good man, a beacon of truth within the dense swill. . .

[@chrismack3327]

May you live a long and healthy life mr. John. But you a goof. Be GRATEFUL

[@BrocLarter]

What's the alternative, get rid of the third party? If you have a heart attack, are you going to have 50k + saved up to pay for treatment directly? Let's get rid of car insurance while we're at it, what could go wrong....

[@zachb1706]

Well the idea is that costs overall will drop. Hospitals will no longer be working with large insurance companies - or the government, who have massive bank accounts and the ability to pay exuberant prices. Instead they will be working with individuals who have a limited ability to pay and thus prices will have to scale. Mt favourite idea is a hybrid public private system. You can choose to be covered or not, and you will pay a base fee. This will cover basic things, like emergencies, GP visits, mental health. Some things won’t be fully paid for but rather subsidised. Everyone pays the same amount. On top of this you can choose a private supplementary plan, which can offer extra benefits. It will be in conjunction with the public insurance. Things like ambulance insurance, dental, or anything else not covered by the government system.

[@lorenagarcia3189]

Can't people in the USA not have insurance and pay only when they are sick?

[@wach9191]

Yes, but you will have to sell your house.

[@EnDSchultz1]

Not when something like a routine eye checkup can run you $1000. People without insurance just don't use medical services unless they absolutely have no other choice.

[@overout429]

The problem is not paying at all. How does the hospital,doctors, medical technologists, nurses and pharmacy know you will pay? If your left it to one to bill you it most likely would be the hospital. They would be the one responsible for paying all the others who do not work directly for them. That would put an expense on the hospital that would have to he added to the bill. I have coffee every morning with a retired doctor who explained the cost of running a medical facility. His liability insurance ran him $60,000 per year.

[@laverdadbuscador]

Government Healthcare is like Comcast Free Market Healthcare is like Hulu, Netflix, Prime, and a dozen other al carte services. If we had a TRUE free market I would be able to buy catastrophic only health insurance regardless of my age or income. But in America you can't. Hell, can't even go see a "specialist" without the basic doctors approval.

[@SovereignStatesman]

Keep Belling that Cat, Stossel. You'll never do it under False Democracy.

[@city6291]

Not to mention over inflated prices because of insurance companies. If we were paying, bandages wouldn't cost $20, that's that way so that insurance companies can stay in business since we cant afford not to have insurance

[@dannytrueto117]

I love that the ad was from Facebook pushing internet regulations.

[@Ocyla]

Yeah I had my first private surgery and the surgeon called or texted me every day for 4 days, sent me flowers, etc. You'd NEVER get a call in any other scenario. I had a regular medical surgery 2 weeks prior and they told me to follow up in 2 weeks, and couldn't even get me in for a month. So I just skipped the follow up, whatever.

[@mackcummy4976]

Glad I live in Canada.

[@Dano-uf8ys]

And what about hospital price gouging, one Excedrin cost me $1.00?

[@johnconley8316]

The hospitals are not price gouging. In fact, most hospitals operate on a slim profit margin. People forget how much of a hospital's expenses go to things with which there is no profit, such as house cleaning; salaries for nurses, techs, drivers, housecleaning staff, etc; electricity, plumbing, waste disposal, etc.; hospital gear such as CT, MRI, needles, syringes, bandages, sterilizing equipment, etc.; insurance; legal coverage and other legal fees/retainers; all food service related things such as the food, food prep. staff, utensils, etc. and more. This is only touching the surface. My first job as a teen was washing dishes in a hospital. The hospital makes no money from the dietary staff. My point is that there are massive costs that arise that have to be made up and one way that occurs is n the high prices for medications, etc. But this isn't something that is discussed in our media or elsewhere. And hospitals are not allowed to turn anyone away from the ER (in spite of what movies and TV would have you believe) regardless of whether the patients have insurance or not.

[@beng4151]

They do that because they have no competition. The hospital boards in states determine if there is a "need" to open a hospital. Guess who's on the hospital boards? That's right, administrators from the hospitals. Of course, they vote no for competition....

[@ronaldarchibald2506]

Thats reasonable. I now know why. That 1 excedrin has to be logged in upon delivery to hospital, a dr has to request you get that medicine, the pharmacist has to check your drug interactions before dispensing that medication, make sure you wont die from taking it. Once pharmacist dispenses medication it must be either shot up via air tubes or hand delivered by a pharmacy tech depending where in hospital you are. When it gets to proper floor and wing medication has to be logged in and stored until dispensment to patient. Then the nurse or dr dispenses medication to patient and logs it in to patient record for billing and documentation purposes. Thats a lot of much needed documentation and labor involved to get you any medication even excedrin.

[@TheVertigoalley]

John Stossel makes some good points, but as an oncologist, I find that some of his complaints are not valid. Some doctors DO give out their cell number, but the vast majority use an answering service that make a record of the call. Also, an answering service can triage calls to forward to the clinic for drug refills, etc. Patients can and do abuse their doctors at all hours of the day and night, often trying to avoid coming in for an appointment. Sorry, but if you have fever, cough, and chest pain, YOU NEED A PHYSICAL EXAM. Also, patients will email their symptoms, assuming their doctor checks their email frequently. I don’t! Many patients do not understand that government and/or insurance make rules that doctors can’t change. For example, if a patient comes in for follow up but has a separate procedure performed by the doctor, insurance will not allow billing for both on the same day. That forces sick or elderly patients to make 2 trips.

[@joefromravenna]

TheVertigoalley, sorry but have you tried to use it yourself? How about all the times i have tried to get a hold of a human and can’t.

[@TheVertigoalley]

Some doctors make it IMPOSSIBLE to reach them outside clinic hours, for example pain specialists. They don’t call in narcotics, ever. They don’t even take questions. Obviously someone can go to the ER if they are in severe pain. Primary care docs, on the other hand, need to be accessible 24/7 and some have a “concierge “ practice that allows more personal access including the Doctor’s cellphone number. Yes, talking to a human IS important and to some extent, patients can do some research on accessibility when deciding on a physician.

[@donnamaco1]

@Liberty AboveAllElse "Nut Jobs" as you refer to them, is also a medical condition. If your thyroid is not working properly, a person could can appear to be suffering from mental illness. There are a myriad of physiological problems that mimic mental illness but are other serious life threating problems. Your sophistication on the subject is surprising to say to least. Perhaps you are a auto mechanic.

[@donnamaco1]

@Liberty AboveAllElse I very much see your intellect. www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2015/01/27/conservative-think-tank-10-countries-with-universal-health-care-are-economically-freer-than-the-u-s/#2d7c208b137e

[@troyroberts4196]

So true service stinks in the USA

[@vargo0515]

STOSSEL IS EXACTLY RIGHT!

[@CG-vn8iy]

Also, they are hobbled a lot by HIPAA laws as well.

[@YesuAiNimen]

To anyone here who thinks it's a great thing to have the gov involved in healthcare: Try having an ailing parent who needs a nursing home and see what it's like applying for Medicaide without the help of an attorney. I bet that experience will change your mind.

[@d.l.austin2379]

Natural birth strengthens the skull and sets things right in the brain. It's common knowledge. What conartists to suggest otherwise.

[@kanaverum]

YES! GREAT NEWS, GLAD TO HEAR STOSSEL IS DOING BETTER!!!! :D

[@S_F_S]

LOL imagine PAYING for MEDICAL CARE as a TAXPAYER in 2022 and still wanting to pay more. Only in America.

[@marshavoiers327]

I went to the hospital a few months ago. They sent me home and no help at all. No answers to what i had or caused my problems and the whole time i was there, i seen a doctor for at the most 2 minutes. That was in 24 hours. The care i was to receive, i got from nights but day shift was rare to even be seen. I felt out of place and like no one even cared i was there. You are just a number or paycheck to them. They pick and choose who gets care and who is left to suffer or die. Sick and sad.

[@darrylharris1718]

Lawyers run this country.

[@goodgirlgamer6424]

I love him too much ❤️

[@charlesgormley9075]

Aren’t lawyers responsible for the high prices making insurance companies necessary in the first place. Correct me if I am wrong.

[@SuperHigear]

I know how you feel, John.

[@davidmuresan628]

I thought how to improve our health care system and I come to the following Health Care Trilogy. 1) Medicare for all Americans. 1.1) This is the basic care provided by government with money collected from employers and employees. Each USA Citizen will have a certain amount allowed per year for medical use. For Emergencies/accidents Medicare will pay the difference, is any. 1.2) Family members may share the allowed money. 1.3) Special approval for extra cares is required, which depends on the funds available. 2) Health Insurance paid by citizens only. This is optional for people. 3) State Healthcare system, which will attract workers in certain states. Advantages: The government will have control of medical spending. Each person will have guaranteed the basic care. People with more money may have their own insurance and that will not be a burden for employers. Approval for extra care will ensure that all cases may be paid for.

[@davidmuresan628]

@Ken MacDonald why is bad to have a basic care paid by Medicare, an insurance and a state care systems?

[@rustysruger]

I believe the term should be criminally negligent...🤔

[@zygi22]

"I'll grill one of these parasites (lawyers) tonight..." LOL"

[@leirawhitehart1236]

I freaking hate insurance, because it limits the kind of care you can get! Because some doctors don't take this insurance, or that insurance, and you have to pay the whole thing out of pocket if you want that care, or go find another doctor that does! Why don't all doctors take all insurance??? There are probably other reasons to hate insurance that I don't quite understand just yet (because I don't and can't live on my own just yet), but man, insurance (from what I've experienced of it), is such a hassle.

[@zachb1706]

The reason some doctors don’t take insurance is money. If an insurance company demands too low of a rate, that doctor will say no.

[@sasquach3.090]

If it wasnt for Tucker Carlson Fox would be unbearable. I miss Stossel

[@TheCreator919]

Wait till he hears about the financial system

[@Dano-uf8ys]

They surgically removed it.

[@JojitJohnson]

Direct Primary Care

[@AdmiralofU2]

United Airlines is free market. Most passengers pay for it themselves (government rarely does) and it has plenty of competition from other airlines. So why is their customer service so terrible?

[@MS-dv4st]

Because people want airfare to be very cheap, to survive the low profit margins that cheaper competition cause, airlines will give their lowest paying customers the cheapest service. So instead of a competition of who can make give the best service, its who can give the cheapest service. This is the fault of consumers, if you want better service you’re gonna have to pay for it.

[@AdmiralofU2]

@@MS-dv4st I do. I live in a country where there's only two national airlines, both of which are great. Is United Airlines really that cheap?

[@MS-dv4st]

@@AdmiralofU2 Ive never been to a different country so I couldn’t tell you comparatively, but amidst covid internal flights were very cheap by my standards

[@Narko_Marko]

in the beginning it looks like they captured him to interrogate him after they saw the video

[@thomasrobinson182]

Old enough to remember when 'for profit' medicine didn't exist.

[@siddharthasingh1977]

I got MRI for 100$ in less than 4 hours (including 45min in the MRI machine)

[@NunYa953]

It's because they see us as a patient, not a customer...guess I should have watched before commenting 😂

[@321DMK]

A single payer system would only make things worse, along with useless visits for stupid reasons.

[@douglaspierce8480]

I'm very glad that John's alright, but he's way off the mark here. My doctor has 3,500 patients and if she gave her cell phone number out to each patient, her call list would be as long as your arm every day, if returned wouldn't allow much time for actual medicine. As for email, I don't want everybody in the office to know about my health problems and that's exactly what would happen if you sent an email to your doctor, because email servers are not secure. The biggest problem is with electronic record keeping. Almost every doctor and hospital has their own electronic record keeping system and they don't talk to each other. So, when a patient goes to another doctor, they have to get their records on paper instead of electronically.

[@bimmersandars9221]

John for president

[@RonaldMcPaul]

Libertarian Axe 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@pitrs101]

Stossel should try presidency. I mean if game show host can win it, why not libertarian.

[@daveward6386]

This doesn't happen in our public health system (I'm not american).

[@ATTJ7628]

Cope

[@daveward6386]

@@ATTJ7628 Nothing to cope about. Our medical service is great.

[@ATTJ7628]

@@daveward6386 HAHAHAHAHA

[@daveward6386]

@@ATTJ7628 Have you ever been outside of america? It doesn't seem so.

[@ATTJ7628]

@@daveward6386 HAHAHAHAHA

[@sliglusamelius8578]

A tossed should stick to things that he knows, like how horrible the field of journalism is. He could have a career just talking about how awful and lying his colleagues are.

[@brianharrington5176]

What if you don’t have any money

[@SandfordSmythe]

pray

[@Guitarzan8]

I don’t care for the moderator, Stuart. He cuts people off when they’re saying something interesting. Does he need more limelight? Does he think it’s exciting?

[@daveberry5901]

The cause of Cancer has always been right in front of your faces. . . The 1st of Ten Commandments, in the statues which follow : "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" Then God says what ALL and Everyone missed: "For I the LORD thy God am a jealous God", ""visiting the iniquity"" of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. Why is it this stands out so prominent to me, but over all these years No One else understood, that means, God Gives Cancer to those who hate, and their kids, undo 4 generations later. .Why is it no one else get it. . . Its YOUR Fault, it could be your great grand fathers fault. . .Get It?

[@clup3136]

Interesting

[@johnharvey9112]

Insurance and healthcare costs are not part of a free market competitive capitalist system. The only way it can be fixed is to have competitive pricing and a no cure no pay system. Then capitalism would fix the problem of cost vs value vs quality. You would control your private healthcare records. No health insurance industry would be allowed to exist. And emergency rooms would be empty. Google the Sick Around the World video and watch how they do it in Taiwan. And remember that if an insurance company and Medicare and Medicaid can make up a price list so can the healthcare providers. It would sure be great to have a computer based application like Good Rx for doctors and hospitals. What they are doing now is a total scam on the American people.

[@zachb1706]

I believe the best system would be government subsidised care. Not full blown Medicare for all, but the government pays a set rate on care, and the patient pays the rest. Let’s say you need heart surgery, the government might pay a fixed rate of $10k. If you choose to go for a better doctor, you would pay that big extra (say the better doctor charged $15k). What does this solve? It leaves healthcare somewhat within the free market, but it also fixes prices around a set point. And people have to pay for their care - so they have still got that incentive to stay healthy

[@johnharvey9112]

@@zachb1706 That is the same scam the current healthcare and insurance industries is pulling on America today. I have a friend that was charged over 20,000 dollars for a cut that needed 10 stitches. In your system the government would pay 150 bucks and the patient would pay 19,850 bucks. See the scam??? How do you think a hospital can add a 600 dollar pillow to your bill? It is because it is s scam 4 dollar pillow. How do you think a drug company can charge you 600 dollars for an EpiPen? It is because it is a scam 15 buck generic EpiPen that has been around for 60 years. And when the patients can't pay the healthcare and insurance industries write off the 100 times overpriced charges so that they never pay any taxes. There are CROOKS, SCAMMERS, THIEVES and healthcare & insurance companies.

[@zachb1706]

@@johnharvey9112 I said that we get rid of insurance companies, and instead have government “subsidised care”, where the government pays a fixed rate and the consumer can negotiate the quality of care themselves

[@johnharvey9112]

@@zachb1706When government subsidies have to support a market it is a fake manipulated market. It is not a free market system. That is not what free market capitalism is. Government subsidies only cause companies to charge you what it cost them to buy your government. And that is not healthcare.That is what is wrong with Medicare and Medicaid today. They have been captured by the insurance industry in a fake 80/20 coverage scam. The only way to guarantee quality in healthcare is to have no insurance companies with a no cure no pay system. That would remove all the bad doctors a hospitals in a short time. What company would hire a doctor or nurse that can't cure the patients? Hospitals would not do unnecessary procedures or surgeries if it they could not get paid for them? There are currently 150,000 deaths caused by bad doctors every year. And those doctors still get paid in our stupid system. Let the Capitalist competitive free market system work just like it works in garbage collection. If my garbage company doesn't pick up my trash, I don't pay them. Get rid of the insurance industry and government healthcare programs that cost over 800 billion dollars a year in fraud alone. They only raise the cost of healthcare. They all run the same scam. You can only sign up with a 40 page contract during a limited time each year and cost are unknown. If you miss the sign up you are not covered. And you have to wait until next year. This is not competitive at all. I can switch to another garbage company If one comes along with lower rates any time I want to. And that is what lowers costs in a capitalist market. The only connection government should have is a calculated average cost of medical procedures and drugs. That cost would be paid in single payer fashion to gain the huge savings just from economy of scale by not having hundreds of insurance and healthcare companies all with different billing systems and prices. The average cost of the specific medical care would be provided by government and approved by the patient to minimize fraud. If a fraud was perpetrated both the patient and doctor would be responsible. How much fraud would that eliminate?

[@zachb1706]

@@johnharvey9112 and a insurance/uninsured/Medicaid/Medicare/VA system is free market? My system protects poor people, while also still giving the free market the option to innovate and profit. In Australia, that’s essentially what happens. The government will partially cover the costs of public healthcare.

[@snakeyman5560]

I hope I don't get lung cancer. ;( its so scary.

[@mrnobody8540]

Try the mental health racket

[@camerongriswold4218]

“He’s the freak” hahaha

[@jeromeb4772]

*yeah it’s also way too expensive. Some people spend their entire yearly check on a lifesaving operation. It should be cheaper* “So you want free healthcare you socialist?” - actual reply I got to a comment once

[@rrrrrrktjtj]

"Here's this Doctor, he's from NEW YORK!!" Doctor- I agree with Stoss- Host- STFU

[@nitish523]

Money Talks. Sadly.

[@andreasfuchs896]

I agree with many of John Stossels opinions, but i think that individual health care should not be traded in a free market. Did you ask how much an chemotherapy would have costed and could you have paid your operation? Or you have some kind of 2-class medicin; where the rich people are treated with better medicaments. I am not really convinced of the health isunrance system in Germany, but I think it's better than the situation in a free market of healthcare.

[@122388forrest]

In every healthcare system the rich will have better healthcare because they have the money and resources to seek out the best options. In a socialized system the government subsidizes healthcare so the costs are artificially inflated.

[@RodMartinJr]

Andreas, do you know how cheap the actual chemicals in chemo are? Likely pennies and they charge thousands. Did you know that there are cures for cancer, but the medical *_industry_* had them outlawed? Chemo is not very effective, and is also carcinogenic!!! The cures are healthy and have 90% to 95% effectiveness. But they don't want you to know that. It would kill their profits.

[@RodMartinJr]

@kommisar ROFL! Son, you simply haven't looked hard enough. Your comment is an Argument from Ignorance logical fallacy. Please, try to keep up.

[@RodMartinJr]

@kommisar "Citing a lack of evidence" = Argument to Ignorance logical fallacy. Just because you don't know any doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You really need to know how to do better research. But with your lousy attitude, I'm not going to be your teacher. Bye-bye!

[@Bittzen]

@@RodMartinJr Patents make the prices high and subsidies to particular pharma/hospital companies that don't go to all of them raises barrier to entry. To what you said about miracle cures outlawed, the government does the outlawing, the companies do the lobbying. They're capable of lobbying together under tacit collusion because they formed an oligopoly, the oligopoly is from what I already stated as raising costs to enter the industry, there's also household goods permits some places have that literally bar new businesses off. Going off of the economics anyone that took a simple econ class would know, collusion can only occur in oligopolies because monopolistic and perfect competition has too many competitors, so the cost of negotiation is higher for the people trying to band together

[@loldershaw]

Let's be clear: John Stossel wouldn't know beans with the sack open.

[@meferswift]

Well its free market. Altough its hard to negotiate when u desperate.

[@zachb1706]

It’s not the free market at all. You have insurance companies, lawyers, and huge government regulation. Let alone the huge regulations that stop hospitals from competing. Imagine if you went to go buy McDonald’s, but you had to wait for your insurance company to negotiate a price, and decide for you what you get. It’s almost as bad as a full blown Medicare for all plan - because then it isn’t you, it’s the government that decides

[@meferswift]

@@zachb1706 thats is goverment regulation. Well there is TCM if the patient is desperate. Or flying to other country.

[@davidoconnell2057]

Price gouging

[@davidoconnell2057]

Go stossel

[@davidoconnell2057]

@Mike Evans go Trump MAGA president