MENTORING IS NOT BIBLICAL - APOSTLE AROME OSAYI

[@benjaminfranklin9967]

You know what, I didn't know abt this pastor early enough. But the 1st time I heard him speak, till today, his words carry Jesus.

[@largo5348]

Discipleship is so important to teach and train people to live the life of Christ and not the individual who is the teacher!

[@victoryomeiza6022]

I love the way he dissects scriptural truths

[@akinleyedaredavid2432]

Many good mentors point their mentee to Christ while some disciplers make the followers their disciples. The context is the issue not the word used.

[@IDEOLOGIESCONCEPT]

This is too deep. I pray for the church to come to the knowledge of God

[@danielifechukwude1580]

Men who communicate the very truth of God❤

[@mxolisimelchizedekgoshen]

We thank Yeshua the Messiah for this truths. AMEN AMEN and AMEN

[@chukwudichinedu6411]

Fantastic thought but not balanced though... because while Discipleship is important, mentoring is also important. In Ephe 5:1, Paul asked us to follow God as dear children, but also in 1Cor. 11:1, he asked us to follow him as he follows Christ. That is the balance. The emphasis on one does not discard the use or importance of the other.

[@amenzeizedonmwen8761]

His point is for us to point the cross to the disciples instead of pointing ourselves. Bcos on the last day...... As in laslas, when the role is called up yonder, even ur mentor go stand for line with you. Let's keep looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith!

[@sallynhlanhla]

This man, bless his heart. This what he is saying is so so close to my heart. Bless him. We bless JESUS. AMEN

[@AndrewGiles688]

Mentoring means to guide. Jesus through the Spirit has asked us to be pastors or shepherds leading children to the shepherd Jesus. Paul had students who learned from him also. Mentoring is how we grow spiritually.

[@cheboscochekcee7564]

perfect truth 💯

[@yusufsaleh8023]

Truth undiluted

[@enangcol3049]

This is what the church leaders need to understand. Now they use the scripture: "copy me as I copy Christ" (1 Cor.11:1) Imagine if there are traces of errors in the teachings and life of your mentor, when you are not allowed to relate to Jesus in the dymics of His dealings/revelation... Both the teacher/mentor and the mentee have to be discipled by HOLY SPI RIT to be like Jesus in everything. God Help the Body of Christ.

[@julianaudu5158]

God bless you Sir

[@imolegamoses4104]

To an extent that's what most pastors do they teach you to relate with God their own way and I think that's where he is speaking from

[@MercedesBookStore]

This is sound truth💯

[@adebayotosinemmanuel959]

Truth and Reality

[@josephkpalokunde2013]

so powerful Apostle

[@samsonogwu8166]

I love you sir

[@praisemabel538]

Thank you sir for educating us on this matter

[@jcfcakagodembassymissionsi5127]

GOD BLESS YOU SIR.

[@collinssimon7179]

This is very important Sir Thanks a lot Sir

[@joshblayzetv]

SUPER CORRECT 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@apostleonyekachi5872]

Very Correct Apostle Of Jesus

[@adeyemooluwasegunadekunle3666]

This is deep as and simple

[@gofaoneboithatelo397]

Akre ...that's the truth sir

[@ashumartin2953]

Wow great, I love this

[@barbarabridgetbensah9601]

teaching is a gift indeed.

[@Dibillionairementor]

The balance here is "mentoring is different from discipleship. As clearly stated by Apostle, mentoring is just an act of replicating yourself in others, while discipleship is leading people to Christ." The point here is just the term or the choice of word. Most Christian leaders often disciple people and yet call it mentorship. The idea is just the context of the function of your action if you lead people to become like Christ JESUS or to be like you.

[@officialsarahwonders]

@TheDay HeMade There is no issue, the point Apostle is clearing up is the use of terminology. The Scripture you referenced I'd discipleship but some people are wrongly calling it mentorship. Stay blessed ❤️

[@igbinoviaebuwa2757]

Apostle is 100% correct

[@theophilusoblie7]

Waow. Great to learn this.

[@mwilamwape4028]

Yoh! The truth in this is deep🙌

[@tamarareed8560]

Amen!!

[@Koinoniaplaylistt]

Gloryyyyy

[@thebonifiedlady111]

Yesssss!

[@michel.e4948]

Thank you sir 🙏, please tell them ohhh

[@DrvictorELUEBO]

Please post link to full message. Thanks a million

[@tasimarie]

Truth

[@mariaowie7472]

Thank you so much sir, for this truth

[@ministerd0]

Amen

[@RondaDM]

Amennn 🌈🌈🌈🌈

[@Nzunghe]

Table broken! No leg standing 😬🤯🔥

[@ef-houseofcomedy2678]

What about Disciplinship

[@pastorpaulgreatness1326]

Wow

[@onyemaechiokoye7371]

True Sir...

[@bonangbiancamohamadi1896]

Very true!!

[@tamunomiebiatandikiari]

1 Corinthians 11:1 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] 1 Corinthians 11:1, NIV: Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:1, ESV: Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:1, KJV: Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:1, NASB: Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:1, NLT: And you should imitate me, just as I imitate Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:1, CSB: Imitate me, as I also imitate Christ.

[@adonaynisig7731]

How About 1Corinthians:11:1? But I see his perspective.

[@fabiyiadewole4157]

1Cor.11.1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. (KJV). In alignment with what he said I will pick the part that says EVEN AS I ALSO AM OF CHRIST. Meaning you're following Christ that I'm living for.

[@SeyiVine]

Well said Sir

[@johnadegboye8606]

Facts

[@ezekieljohnson3629]

Yes sir this are two different words, pls what about unifying the body of Christ and what should we call the relationship between apostle Paul and Timothy

[@onyedikachiokpokwu3625]

It's called discipleship, simple.

[@dontmissTheWay]

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[@kingtsepo]

what about fatherhood?

[@ephraimdavies7392]

True Sir

[@tanaleeperry5102]

Yeeeeees

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[@rjayspeaks]

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[@nnamdi9450]

Please, link to the full message.

[@zamekilemamba3265]

Yes please 🙏

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[@thykingdomworld]

Also..is there such a word like my "spiritual father" or "spiritual mother" in the bible? This term is used a lot with pentecostals. The bible uses the words "son in the faith".1 Timothy 2:1. Consequently we can have a "father in the faith"..but not a spiritual father. Your spiritual father is God Himself but your earthly teacher is your "father in the faith".

[@His_yoke_is_easy]

Follow me as I follow Christ....

[@kunle.m.adegbite]

Apprenticeship is different from mentoring. And mentoring does not mean you are teaching someone to be like you. A good mentor understands everyone has a unique path in Christ. It's using higher experience in helping them maximize it. It's all discipleship.

[@Benties]

Mentoring is not descipleship sir. Pls with all die respect the man of God is correct. Mentoring is never descipleship

[@kunle.m.adegbite]

@@Benties we like complicating things sha. 🚶🚶

[@victoryelo2342]

Sir the man of God is correct, listen to the message very well

[@ikechukwunwanah4902]

I don't think Kunle is contradicting the preacher, it's s just semantics. And what the Igbo's do is not mentoring per say but apprenticeship. I still like Kunle's view.

[@kunle.m.adegbite]

@@ikechukwunwanah4902 Thank you!!People just don't want anyone to show any view "contrary" to their favourite preacher's. Even if what one is saying is true. 🙂 Meanwhile it's possible I listen to Apostle Arome more than them all. So, I am not speaking out of bias. No preacher is "perfect".

[@timicontents1128]

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[@ohice4560]

Ok

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[@skiddiesloveyouguys567]

Why church in Africa does educate people to not have babies if they can't afford to feed theirself? Please help children and teenagers to get full education before have babies?

[@johnolusola3594]

Great! 1. This exactly what Jesus Christ did to His disciples. He taught them that they may do likewise and also to replicate. 2. He mentored them by given them spiritual covering so much that they did not fast. They said John disciples do fast, Jesus Christ answered by saying: am still around, they need not to fast while am around. That means: they are covered. That is both discipling and mentoring. They go hand in hand 🧤

[@joshuachike3250]

True talk Sir, please you are from which State

[@momohjames7128]

Kogi state

[@timmyloveschrist9113]

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[@samuelk.byiadom7534]

Sure! Mentoring eventhough is good.... It's not the same as Discipleship. The focus of Discipleship is to be like Jesus.(Romans 8:29,)

[@jt19933]

As much as I love him. He's not quite correct here. Of course mentorship is biblical. You are not making the person like you, you are leading, guiding and directing a person in a way that helps them to develop. The word is not in the Bible, but the act and idea of it is there. Look at Paul and Timothy, Moses and Joshua, Elijah and Elisha, Eli and Samuel....I'm sure that you can find. Sorry Apostle, you need to research this one a little more.

[@ssebakumbaedwin8781]

Hahaaaahaaa ur comment can be true and also not true ,d u hv history with making men before u speak..that from that history u can speak...by what authority do u speak

[@ssebakumbaedwin8781]

Haahaaa stop be funny, u hv missed the ponit if u .. talking Abt who is correct and wrong.....I hear ..that Apostle needs more research.....by what authority do u speak , do hv a track record of men u hv walked with , if u have then u ll understand what is talking about...., This is not about being correct

[@officialsarahwonders]

The examples you gave all describe a relationship of discipleship. It's just the terminology he is correcting.

[@GloryHouseLagos]

who have you raised

[@hyeldaapollos3879]

You don't begin to disciple someone when you have not conformed to the image of Christ. Paul said follow me as I follow Christ. How do you explain that away. Let's put things into context. Mentoring has its place and Discipleship has its place. I don't think you should condemn the concept of mentoring. Mentoring is helping people to achieve success in a field that you have succeeded in. Can we focus on preaching the gospel and stop confusing the church with meaningless doctrines that only stir more questions

[@successmotivationwtobiayol2369]

Mentoring in the real sense is designed to help a person to be the best he or she could be as a person. A Mentee can be better than the mentor. Mentoring is making the best he could possibly be , even better than the mentor. Just like a footballer can be better than a coach.

[@adebayotosinemmanuel959]

Motivational speaker. You still don't agree with this truth. Your definition is true but it's not the Truth. We are talking about Kingdom here and not about this earthly delights of ways.

[@mpumelelompofu434]

Wrong understanding of the word. Mentoring means advising not making people to be like you. Look at the etymology of the word. However his context is correct but his definition of mentoring is erred

[@jinduogbugh2887]

TOTALLY WRONG! MENTORING, YOU MENTOR PEOPLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE SAME FIELD OF EXPERTISE LIKE YOU. DISCIPLESHIP IS THE SAME IDEA. PAUL SAYS IMITATE ME AS I IMITATE CHRIST. WE ARE THE CLOSEST PROOF THAT THE JESUS WE ARE TEACHING OTHERS IS REAL.

[@TheLegend-uq1gz]

I respectfully disagree with the Apostle. Mentoring is biblical, Paul mentored Timothy, there are many more examples in the Bible. Mentoring is not creating anybody in your own image. It is giving guidance & listening to their (mentee) own opinions too, as a matter of fact, the mentor will even learn from the mentee.

[@shodapad07]

Amen ❤

[@crossfoundation4378]

Facts

[@Bishop7772]

True. So true