Mephistopheles Questline + Character Tendency Explanation Guide - Demon's Souls Remake [4k HDR]

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@herp2664
@herp2664 3 жыл бұрын
To anyone wondering that’s probably worried, if you never save Ostrava and he disappears, as long as you kill his Black Phantom in 1-4 it should count towards this quest.
@dash6970
@dash6970 3 жыл бұрын
I kill him in 1-1 Dose that will count?
@sygfridlink4148
@sygfridlink4148 2 жыл бұрын
give this man his cape right now
@oscarMIMA
@oscarMIMA 2 жыл бұрын
OMG you're such a savior
@matusneupauer9829
@matusneupauer9829 2 жыл бұрын
My god u saved my platinum thanks man
@taifv2624
@taifv2624 Жыл бұрын
you saved me man thank you so much😭👍🏻
@zaynabnajat1386
@zaynabnajat1386 2 жыл бұрын
Ostrava died in battle with me before this quest. And Bior the dragon got him too. When I started the quest line she just passed these two and I had no problem
@dislikebutton4593
@dislikebutton4593 Жыл бұрын
jesussss, I can't wait to be done with this platinum. This has been the most convoluted process I've ever done.
@arbitor365
@arbitor365 4 жыл бұрын
Biorr and Ostrava both died outside the nexus before I started Meph's questline (in 1-4) and I still was able to finish Meph's quest and get the foe ring. She just skipped over them. I think as long as you complete Ostrava's questline, its fine if he dies naturally. Biorr died on the dragon, and that was also considered acceptable. So just because either of them arent in the nexus, that doesnt mean your quest is ruined.
@PoulainNord
@PoulainNord Жыл бұрын
Thanks looooord :D
@yuya5585
@yuya5585 Жыл бұрын
what if my biorr didnt die during blue dragon fight
@ChaosProductionsInc
@ChaosProductionsInc 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was looking for
@98Dreadboy
@98Dreadboy 4 жыл бұрын
Cool questline but I felt so bad killing of these characters, ostrava hit the most oh well got the ring atleast
@mrobscene2912
@mrobscene2912 3 жыл бұрын
Ostrava is a bitch and a coward. He fails in his mission and only got that far because you carry him. Tomas has more back story, personality, VA, and use than that walking can of estrogen.
@liverwind3958
@liverwind3958 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrobscene2912 but he was OUR walking can of estrogen...
@dannyton8478
@dannyton8478 3 жыл бұрын
11:34 i like how Maiden just chill behind when you kill him lol 😂
@Xalocin
@Xalocin 4 жыл бұрын
You can death cloud all of them without them ever attacking you if you wanna be cheap with the mephistopheles quest
@Xxstoner27xX
@Xxstoner27xX 4 жыл бұрын
Only spell left for me to plat
@TheChilipepper77
@TheChilipepper77 3 жыл бұрын
I hate this tendency mechanic, I’m so glad from got rid of it after the first one
@mrniceguy6632
@mrniceguy6632 3 жыл бұрын
Pros: you get the foes ring Cons: you’ll feel very bad about everything
@kevindominicsuarez3768
@kevindominicsuarez3768 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Are you still playing this game? Need someone to help me get pure white character tendency. User name: KevinSpire.
@Psiberzerker
@Psiberzerker 4 жыл бұрын
10:13 Extra points if you use a Backstab that kicks him off the ledge.
@cholziyah9163
@cholziyah9163 4 жыл бұрын
You can still obtain the foe ring even if Biorr and Ostrava are dead and you can also do Mephistopheles quest line late in the game as well, you don't need to kill yurt right away.
@ICantFindaNameSoYeah
@ICantFindaNameSoYeah 4 жыл бұрын
How?
@cholziyah9163
@cholziyah9163 4 жыл бұрын
If you didn't kill yurt right away, you can kill him in the nexus and start Mephistopheles quest line from there if you got pure black character tendency. Then just proceed the quest line normally.
@ICantFindaNameSoYeah
@ICantFindaNameSoYeah 4 жыл бұрын
@@cholziyah9163 Just finished it, she skips any character who's already dead, all you need to do is have Yuria alive for the ring, so that's pretty cool
@cholziyah9163
@cholziyah9163 4 жыл бұрын
@@ICantFindaNameSoYeah Yes indeed, and gratz on getting the ring!
@DavidGarcia11776
@DavidGarcia11776 3 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated channel. Thank you for your help
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@magicbrit
@magicbrit 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you......that is an entertaining, well made, instructive viideo.
@darksunwithin
@darksunwithin 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the conclusion to the questline starts with her quick rolling off. 😂
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
She's probably the most realistic AI PvP fight in the game haha.
@shoryuken3305
@shoryuken3305 3 жыл бұрын
New to the game and this tendency shit so confusing so many god dam rules
@heyguyslolGAMING
@heyguyslolGAMING 4 жыл бұрын
Curious, once you complete the final kill, collect the Foe's Ring and aggro Mephistoheles; can you de-aggro her via Thief's Ring and then go pay to "Seek Forgiveness" to set her neutral again? The reason I ask is because she can be used for de-leveling via soul suck and I was thinking of keeping her around for that purpose if possible.
@brentsteven4944
@brentsteven4944 3 жыл бұрын
im here for those extra colorless souls baby
@A_d_e_k
@A_d_e_k Жыл бұрын
Little correction regarding OG Demon's Souls: you don't have to kill all NPCs within the Nexus. I killed Biorr as soon as I opened his cell in Boletaria, and I still got all the rewards and the side-quest was successfully completed.
@JaxAz89
@JaxAz89 3 жыл бұрын
I killed ostrava in the beginning, mephisto never mentioned him and went straight to Yuria, killed Yuria and got the Foes ring.
@dopeguyonx798
@dopeguyonx798 3 жыл бұрын
So for example if Bior is dead will Mep automatically skip bior and go straight to Yuria?
@iloverisasensei
@iloverisasensei 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!!
@ts25679
@ts25679 4 жыл бұрын
What do you carry over into NG+? Do you keep everything you unlock like miracles, spells and items in your store box, or do you lose whatever isn't equipped to your character?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
You carry everything except for keys!
@ts25679
@ts25679 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage Thanks for the info! Some time over the next few years maybe I'll be able to pick up a PS5 and play this myself.
@tanyadavies265
@tanyadavies265 Жыл бұрын
​@@ts25679 hi 2 year on i know yet hope u had the pleasure of playing this 1st soul game in the series, when uv beaten the game mind all thro u carry stuff over to ng + as for your spells... u can't change them till u have the characters again back in the nexus to enable to do so
@takezokimura2571
@takezokimura2571 4 жыл бұрын
I would really recommend only doing this quest on NG+. Do all the pure white tendency side quests on NG and then before going to NG+ kill everyone. This has much less impact for your overall gameplay.
@justinnguz23
@justinnguz23 4 жыл бұрын
could you help me get my character to white tendency by invading me please
@takezokimura2571
@takezokimura2571 4 жыл бұрын
@@justinnguz23 Can't, don't have a ps5
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Mephistopheles' Armor is the Thief Set, which can be found in Tower of Latria 3-1 in Pure White World Tendency, after you free Lord Rydell. I misspoke when I said she drops her set. She only drops her weapons, headpiece, and the Ring of the Accursed. Here's a guide for how to find her armor - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqSmkJ6inaakaM0
@staticbadgers690
@staticbadgers690 Жыл бұрын
The black phantom in 4-1 killed me so many times because every time i went to parry him he would go from 1 handed to 2 handed and vice-versa and he 2 handed 1 shot me from full
@edpayasugo
@edpayasugo 4 жыл бұрын
What if I keep them all out of the Nexus, apart from Yuria, will Mephistopheles only task me with killing her? Thanks.
@edpayasugo
@edpayasugo 4 жыл бұрын
No, you still have to kill them, Ostrava was still in 1-1 and Meph still told me to kill him.
@FabioNaeb
@FabioNaeb 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@turnoffthedark268
@turnoffthedark268 3 жыл бұрын
would you recommend getting the Ally Ring first before this ring? Considering you need to murder a friendly NPC for Mephisto lady to appear?
@BoverdeseKnuttz
@BoverdeseKnuttz 3 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely. Once you’re in pure black character tendency (which is needed for this questline) it would require at least another 2 playthroughs to get back to pure white CT. And NG+ gets harder each time you start a new cycle.
@allandm
@allandm 4 жыл бұрын
This ring trophy is a HUGE pain...
@ThatRandomFastingGuy
@ThatRandomFastingGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 2 rings off. Can confirm.
@PrincessPetch24
@PrincessPetch24 2 жыл бұрын
She and Navlaan would get along swimmingly
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 2 жыл бұрын
Always fun to see where the murder questlines in Souls games got started :D
@steveolive214
@steveolive214 5 ай бұрын
Just started the game over bc i thought i had to bc of this smh wow
@deeps.
@deeps. 3 жыл бұрын
should I do this on NG+? I heard getting back the pure white is harder on ng+, I still need to get the bad ending trophy and some of magic spells so I'm thinking about doing it on ng+ instead of making my ng+ harder
@mdfsdmsfsf9366
@mdfsdmsfsf9366 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering. If Ostrava (or anyone) is already dead before you start, will you get Foe's Ring? Ostrava died in one of my attempts and Mephistopheles did NOT drop the ring before attacking me. I've already completed her quest and got the ring, but I'm curious to know whether it was a bug or if that's actually how it works.
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a bug. I've had someone tell me she didn't give them anything before attacking, but then they paid for forgiveness at the statue in The Nexus and spoke to her again. They got the Foe's Ring that time.
@heyguyslolGAMING
@heyguyslolGAMING 4 жыл бұрын
Do you need to be in Pure Black Char Tendency when you kill Yurt? or can you Kill him in Neutral/White Tendency and later push your Char Tendency Black to summon Mephistoheles?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
No, you can kill Yurt whenever. He only drops your CT by a little.
@heyguyslolGAMING
@heyguyslolGAMING 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage Tyvm
@julianfeo1995
@julianfeo1995 4 жыл бұрын
Pure black just seems like such a pain to get to, i did this in the original but just doesnt seem worth it unless you want trophies
@johns783
@johns783 4 жыл бұрын
the 2 colorless demons souls absolutely make it worth it.
@alumlovescake
@alumlovescake 2 жыл бұрын
tendency is a pain in general especially offline
@mwfcod0932
@mwfcod0932 3 жыл бұрын
Yo I was able to get the ring by doing just half (not even) of her quest. So in short if you just need the RING (Foes ring) for the trophy make sure to keep Yuria alive, some of the npc (1 or 2) like patches and have pure black character tendency 😉 you just missing some of her reward. For me the most important one are the ring (from Yuria) and the colorless soul from (patches).
@jacoballen4591
@jacoballen4591 3 жыл бұрын
Can you kill the targets in any order ? Say patches/bior first and second for the colorless demon souls ,get spell from saint urbain, then kill him?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
No, you need to kill the targets in the order she asks for them.
@Barry981
@Barry981 10 ай бұрын
Guys quick question please. How far into the game can I start this quest please? Is it as soon as I’ve freed all the people that need to be killed? I have to do another playthrough for the devout prayer ring and foe’s ring so I just want to get them without having to do the whole game again right until the very end! Thanks all in advance
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 10 ай бұрын
You can start it immediately, it just requires you to get pure black character tendency.
@Barry981
@Barry981 10 ай бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCagethanks bud, quick question. If Ostrava disappears after appearing in the staircase in 1-4, does this matter for the quest please? I’m hoping it doesn’t mean I can’t get the foe’s ring
@jackv2175
@jackv2175 3 жыл бұрын
I did this whole quest, just for Mephistopheles to not drop the ring. I'm not even sure what I did wrong but is it possible to load a save or something?
@jesperstjern6561
@jesperstjern6561 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully someone sees this, I killed everyone on the list. You know I did all her quests and still didn't get the foes ring. Anyone know why?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Did you speak with her after killing Yuria?
@vincevirtua
@vincevirtua 3 жыл бұрын
I have this too.
@tyrant3161
@tyrant3161 4 жыл бұрын
What carriers over to the next play through? Is seeking forgiveness suggested ?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
You carry over everything but keys. World and character tendency carries over. All NPCs reset to their original state and location, so don't seek forgiveness if you don't need it.
@creepyboy6593
@creepyboy6593 9 ай бұрын
If you don’t kill Yurt & he kills all the marks on her list does he kill Mephistopheles also??😊
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 9 ай бұрын
She won't appear until Yurt is dead.
@KairosSusurri
@KairosSusurri 4 жыл бұрын
Can you kill saint out of the nexus? Like when you land in that pit with him and still get credit if you have that quest for mephistopheles started?
@dantheman5405
@dantheman5405 9 ай бұрын
To everyone going for the platinum 3 years later, please do not go pure black then white. Going to white is significantly harder
@manoliskal
@manoliskal 4 жыл бұрын
If you leave Ostrava to die after you talk to him and then fight his phantom does it count? Also in the next cycle does your character tendency resets?
@firelinkbeastt
@firelinkbeastt 4 жыл бұрын
Nope it doesn‘t count. You need to kill his human form, just need to do another full playtrough because of that. And your character tendency as well as your world tendency stays the same for NG+
@JacobStrife
@JacobStrife Жыл бұрын
​​@JablesLP not true btw lol
@richeyrich00ttv38
@richeyrich00ttv38 4 жыл бұрын
No one has a video how to go from pure white character tendency from pure black character tendency like in depth... help me out Johnny 🥺
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
I cover this, in depth, in this video. Kill the vendors I talk about and list.
@ArkadianGames
@ArkadianGames 4 жыл бұрын
Will be doing this tomorrow! But, I didnt kill that guy in the cell when I let him out... but I haven't done the final boss down in the hole lol. Am I still good to go with this? Or has the guy already gone on the killing spree? The main npcs are all still in the nexus so I'm confused lol
@andyhernandez4019
@andyhernandez4019 4 жыл бұрын
I just got the ally ring , just by killing the five black phamtons in every world 😎
@cadimagamingplace
@cadimagamingplace 4 жыл бұрын
Does killing the old monk boss as a blue phantom help towards white character tendency?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
No. Only things in your world affect your world tendency. Helping other players only affects their world tendency.
@cadimagamingplace
@cadimagamingplace 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage I was asking about character tendency, not world tendency. I need to get pure white to get my last ring but I don't wanna have to go to NG+ for it. I'm hoping at some point some crazy dude will be able to invade me at king's tower: the only area I got left where I can be invaded as I killed all other bosses already. I just need a few dark phantom kills to get to pure white character tendency, but at level 30 no one is invading here, it seems
@porthegreyman3782
@porthegreyman3782 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s me ask a question, there is a trophy name Sage Trophy to get all spells. Do I have to play two rounds to buy all spells at once or Is there a trick for this trophy? Appreciated your help
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
I think you can back up your save to the cloud, purchase spells, restore the save, then purchase more spells with the same boss souls as before. I didn't personally use this method, as normally you will have to play through 3 times to get all spells and miracles, but I think that works.
@porthegreyman3782
@porthegreyman3782 3 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage thanks for your help
@toma3447
@toma3447 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do it after you have already rescued the 3
@akuma2002
@akuma2002 4 жыл бұрын
Before killing the boss of 1-4? It’s just for Ostrava being still alive right? Otherwise i think it’s safer to do it before killing the last boss...
@evandavidson6883
@evandavidson6883 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question, I haven't spoken to Ostrava at all during my playthrough yet, would he still be in 1-1 or would I need to go into ng+?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
You'd need to go into NG+. He moves whenever you kill a boss in Boletaria.
@thecrow1448
@thecrow1448 4 жыл бұрын
So can you skip everyone but Yuria and still get the ring?
@hellspawn8795
@hellspawn8795 4 жыл бұрын
If they’re dead before the quest yeah
@vikingsman18
@vikingsman18 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question, but does anybody know if the quest line will continue if Biorr and Ostrava are both already dead before you even get PBCT and have Mephistopheles appear to start the quest line? I know it was said in the video she would skip over the names but I wasn’t sure if that still applied if the quest line wasn’t even started yet.
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. That's ok to have happen.
@vikingsman18
@vikingsman18 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage Awesome, thank you for the reply! All I'm really interested in is the Foe's Ring for the platinum trophy so I am not worried about losing out on the other rewards for Biorr or Ostrava. Thanks again!
@am_l3124
@am_l3124 Жыл бұрын
In online mode if you all PWT but u invade an kill people is it still possible to reach PWT
@Shadow_2055
@Shadow_2055 4 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend to do this with two different characters? One for Pure White and the other for pure black?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's pretty easy to control since there's a ton of players online right now. Easy enough to hop into the Demon's Souls Discord server and ask people to invade you so you can kill them or for you to invade and die.
@Shadow_2055
@Shadow_2055 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage well I ask because I saw this dude killing the people in Nexus just to have his character to pure black tendency and I don’t want to do that. Maybe because he also wanted to get all the rings and trophies.
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to kill anyone in the Nexus. The list of NPC vendorss I list in the beginning are more than enough.
@Shadow_2055
@Shadow_2055 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage what’s another way to get all of the rings? I want to get the trophy for that one.
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow_2055 some rings have multiple locations, but my All Rings guide shows the easiest method for each one.
@codafett
@codafett 6 ай бұрын
She's so cool
@matusneupauer9829
@matusneupauer9829 2 жыл бұрын
I killed 4 of that black phantoms so I should have white tendency but I still have normall. Is it bug or what ?
@zeroskerbo838
@zeroskerbo838 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know how late you can start this quest? Can you start it after you kill king allant
@marcuisebass7089
@marcuisebass7089 4 жыл бұрын
Only if you didn’t kill birror or astrava but that’s not likely
@firelinkbeastt
@firelinkbeastt 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly Biorr and Astrava should be dead by now if you are already at the end
@dominiclee6468
@dominiclee6468 3 жыл бұрын
Mephistopheles will just skip asking you to kill characters that are already dead. the only important person who should be alive is Yuria if you want the foe ring. I started this quest after Biorr and Astrava died in 1-4.
@adel9802
@adel9802 4 жыл бұрын
11:49 that what she said
@waffle221
@waffle221 4 жыл бұрын
he spawns as red phantom aswell it counted for me
@maciekan
@maciekan 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just a quick question, at the beggining of the game i released Yuri and let him be, now i’m before final boss, i found him in upper flor in nexus, killed him, will mephistopheles show when i’ll change my dententy to black ? And i’ve accidentaly killed patches is that a big thing ? Will he just skip him ? I’m only after the ring for platinum and Witch is alive.
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Mephistopheles should show up after you killed Yurt, yes! And yes, if you already killed Patches, she'll just skip over him.
@IAMLEGEND091
@IAMLEGEND091 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage What about Ostrava? He did not appear for me at 1-4, will she skip him too?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
@@IAMLEGEND091 yep
@IAMLEGEND091
@IAMLEGEND091 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage Awesome, that was quick and thanks a ton :)
@ELYXAN
@ELYXAN 4 жыл бұрын
hey man can you help me i have killed all 3 targets saint urbain and his followers but mephistoles still refuses that i killed everyone. Do i need to kill saint urbain in the nexus maybe ? because i killed him in the hole where patches sents you down.
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I killed him in the nexus so maybe that is the reason.
@Ontspandude
@Ontspandude 4 жыл бұрын
Did you kill umbasa , I killed saint urbain in the hole and al the holy people in the nexus. And I could progress the chain.
@ELYXAN
@ELYXAN 4 жыл бұрын
is there a charakter thats called umbsa ?
@Ontspandude
@Ontspandude 4 жыл бұрын
@@ELYXAN it that chick that says umbasa xD don't know her real name
@ELYXAN
@ELYXAN 4 жыл бұрын
yeah thats the girl with the pickaxe i also killed her
@OatmealmanSix
@OatmealmanSix 4 жыл бұрын
So Ostrava and Biorr being dead won’t affect the quest line for getting the foes ring?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@OatmealmanSix
@OatmealmanSix 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage thank you sir
@gtk3849
@gtk3849 4 жыл бұрын
I killed the saint and his squad before starting this quest and now she won’t recognize that I did the deed.. what do I do?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. I've had people tell me about this bug with other targets before. Someone said that they asked for forgiveness using the statue at the base of the nexus (the statue you spawn in front of if you die in the nexus). This resets Mephistopheles and might make her realize that Urbain is dead. Otherwise, you're going to have to try again in your next NG cycle.
@1985NEVETS
@1985NEVETS 3 жыл бұрын
On my first playthrough. Just finished pw tendency in each world. Should I do pb for each and then this quest or vice versa before finishing?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmm that's really up to you. This questline is based on having pure black character tendency, which is separate from world tendency. So it doesn't really matter.
@kevindominicsuarez3768
@kevindominicsuarez3768 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Are you still playing this game? Need someone to help me get pure white character tendency. User name: KevinSpire.
@sampiter8056
@sampiter8056 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, tnks for the vid. But I have a question: can I just kill Yuria to have foe ring or do I have to kill the other NPCs too?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Yuria doesn't drop the Foe's Ring, so you have to wait for Mephistopheles to ask you to kill her. Once she's dead, you speak with Mephistopheles again and she gives you the ring as a reward.
@eclips3339
@eclips3339 Жыл бұрын
Will Mephistopheles kill a npc after i defeated the boss during her task?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage Жыл бұрын
I don't believe she will ever kill an NPC herself.
@zinrgy
@zinrgy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Cage! I am a mage/battlemage and am about to finish the game for the first time. Can and SHOULD I finish 1-4 and the false king (WITHOUT TALKING TO MAIDEN IN BLACK) and THEN kill off Freke and Yuria? Is that possible!!??
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Yea you can kill NPCs up until the last moment of the game. Just homeward out of the final area. There's even an Archstone on the beach before the final boss.
3 жыл бұрын
If we die fighting them or fighting Mephistopheles, the quest is canceled?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@mra.m.gaming4825
@mra.m.gaming4825 4 жыл бұрын
I don't want the rewards for killing Ostrava, I'm just interested in the foes ring, if he's dead already will she just move on to the next target?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@abrahamavila6406
@abrahamavila6406 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks Mephistopheles is a badass name??
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
I made sure to say it whenever I could in the video. I love saying it!
@abrahamavila6406
@abrahamavila6406 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage Right! I had to keep checking to see if I had spelled it correctly 😅
@injusticeExpert7
@injusticeExpert7 3 жыл бұрын
Can i do the questline if my ostrava is dead i only want the foes ring gor killing yuria anyway for the ring trophy
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
If his black phantom is still alive, then it's possible. Killing the black phantom will count towards the quest.
@injusticeExpert7
@injusticeExpert7 3 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage thanks bro ur a life saver ur content convinced me to go for the plat because you explain things so well excited for ur elden ring content when the game comes out!
@alexg7502
@alexg7502 6 ай бұрын
Can I kill the last boss fight before doing this quest line ?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 6 ай бұрын
@@alexg7502 I don't believe she'll show up if you do that.
@alexg7502
@alexg7502 6 ай бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCageshe did it tried it 😀
@JayJDubba
@JayJDubba 2 жыл бұрын
So I'm in NG++ with PWWT and PWCT and I only need the "Foes Ring" for the platinum trophy. What shall I do?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 2 жыл бұрын
Time to start being evil!
@JayJDubba
@JayJDubba 2 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage I'm gonna have a hell of a time though considering the strength of enemies and bosses in PBWT in NG++ right?
@chacalog1
@chacalog1 3 жыл бұрын
I killed ostrava in the world after taking the quest but mephistoteles is not counting him
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Try reloading the game and talking to her again. Or, use the statue in the nexus to pray for absolution. That will sometimes jolt her back to normal.
@developer4passion
@developer4passion Жыл бұрын
so as long as yuria lives when that woman dressed like a black assassin shows up i can get the foes ring right?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage Жыл бұрын
Correct!
@developer4passion
@developer4passion Жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage thanks 💪👍
@usnjcooper
@usnjcooper 3 жыл бұрын
Just did this, died to Mephistopheles, quickly closed and reloaded game and then killed her. I ended up with two Foe's Rings. Oops.
@asaaa5565
@asaaa5565 4 жыл бұрын
I have all the stuff allready , but if i want foe ring its required to do the list ? Or just kill the witch !
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Do anything that Mephestopheles asks.
@asaaa5565
@asaaa5565 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage she asked me to kill urbain , but in my world the ostrava deid so that assue in cycle or nah
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
@@asaaa5565 then kill urbain and any other targets she asks you to kill. If Ostrava is dead, she'll just skip him.
@b0ob0o225
@b0ob0o225 4 жыл бұрын
So im following ur video how to become pure white and im turning pure black
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
What actions are you taking?
@scarpia1249
@scarpia1249 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'll get an answer for this, but does anyone know with The Sage's Apprentice keeps respawning after killing him? I had already killed Patches before starting Meph's quest, does this mean she won't give the next contracts?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage Жыл бұрын
Once you kill him, he's dead. NPCs don't respawn in this game. That said, it seems like on the PS5 version of the game, she keeps the contracts coming and skips people if they're already dead, at least according to folks in the comments.
@BELAH909090
@BELAH909090 3 жыл бұрын
I did find on wiki that if I beat the last boss and my WT is PB I will find his armor inside the cage but I don't know if that will start Mephistopheles Quest or not. btw I'm currently in PBWT and I did beat the last boss and I dont really wanna miss her quest beacuse I missed it on NG and Yurt killed all my NPCs :(
@frubetube154
@frubetube154 3 жыл бұрын
Do I have to this in the correct order or can I just go for Yuri the witch as soon as the questline starts since its only the foes ring I'm after
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Have to do it in order. You need to kill each target after Mephistopheles asks you to. She won't ask you to kill Yuria until last.
@Sofia-bl3dz
@Sofia-bl3dz 2 жыл бұрын
I got the ring without killing ostrava
@skinny0408
@skinny0408 4 жыл бұрын
Will she disappear if I die to her? Just in case thats happening lol
@rodrigozamorano1564
@rodrigozamorano1564 4 жыл бұрын
I have a problem, i was in the Middle of the quest, to kill parches and close the game, when i came back mephistopheles and yuria disapear. How can i fix it?
@rodrigozamorano1564
@rodrigozamorano1564 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't fix the error, be carefull when you are invading others, thats was what triggered the glitch. All the NPC came back to the world, and they could never return to the nexus. I had to start a NG+++ to complete the quest. Thanxs for the video, very helpfull.
@jpbrunel5434
@jpbrunel5434 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Johnny, I got a question. Once Mephistopheles appears and starts giving you assassination contracts, do you have to maintain Pure Black Character Tendency? For example, if I kill St Urbain as part of her contract, can I go back to progressing in the story and perhaps lose my Pure Black Character Tendency before I continue with the contracts and take out Freke?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
I believe she'll disappear, but I've never actually tried it. Sorry I don't have a more concrete answer. I do know that if you have Pure White World Tendency in Shrine of Storms, Satsuki will appear for the Makoto questline. But if you move to White or Neutral, he goes away until you go back to Pure White. I'd imagine that Mephestopheles and character tendency works similarly, but I can't be certain.
@MrApplePie816
@MrApplePie816 Жыл бұрын
​@@SweetJohnnyCagehi Johnny i have queastion about Umbasa in white dress, so I'm trying to get trophy for all magic but problem is that I cant even open umbasa shop, what should i do, do i need level up something or i missed something? Please help me
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage Жыл бұрын
@@MrApplePie816 yes, you need to level you faith stat to 10
@MrApplePie816
@MrApplePie816 Жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage You saved me, thank you very much for your reply! 😄
@MrApplePie816
@MrApplePie816 Жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage And yes, my uncle thanks you for your help and for your reply and he said if you will play Lies of P we will watch you Hello again 🙋‍♂️
@TemperWolfYT
@TemperWolfYT 4 жыл бұрын
If he spawns in the nexus should I kill him still
@aspettareestatoperfetto2437
@aspettareestatoperfetto2437 3 жыл бұрын
Can I kill the guy in the nexus? Because I didn't killed him before, so he appears in the nexus
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Which guy?
@chefdave12118
@chefdave12118 Жыл бұрын
I did this and got to new game plus, but kept spawning at the very last boss location (the boss that can steal your soul levels.. I forget his name). I finally used a stone to get back to the nexus and EVERYONE is still dead lol. Even the lady that I level up from is not there. Only the storage guy and the merchant. Did the game glitch out or is that how pure black tendency goes? I just wanted the pvp ring lmao.
@augusteleignel2768
@augusteleignel2768 Жыл бұрын
If you start ng+ you have to kill phalanx to get the maiden
@Albassam90
@Albassam90 4 жыл бұрын
But where is her actual set; the Chest, Hands, and Legs ? It was available in the Original Demon’s Souls but I cant remember where I got it from, unless its not available in the Remake 😖 Edit: NVM it seems its still available its called the Rogue set & it seems I picked it up in 3-1 when Latria was Pure White
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
It's in 3-1 when you have PWWT and you free Lord Rydell. A door unlocks once he's rescued. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqSmkJ6inaakaM0
@bryancarey2432
@bryancarey2432 2 жыл бұрын
What happens if you die in body form once demon souls ps5 because I don't know what happens
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 2 жыл бұрын
Dying in body form does not affect your character tendency. It drops the world tendency of that world one point.
@bryancarey2432
@bryancarey2432 2 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage thank you I was wondering what happens
@Lajopp
@Lajopp 4 жыл бұрын
So if I want Foe Ring, I can kill every character from the list, except Yuria, and Mephistopheles still gonna show up and just ask me to kill Yuria as she skips everyone? Very good video btw thank you
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! And thanks for the feedback!
@cenation248
@cenation248 4 жыл бұрын
Im currently white character tendency, one black phantom away from pure white CT. Problem is, I killed all 5 black phantoms. Does my character tendency carry over to NG+? And also, can I still get the Ally's Ring on NG+, since im missing only 1 black phantom. Or do I have to kill all 5 of them again in Ng+? Thanks
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
Tendency carries over!
@cenation248
@cenation248 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage excellent. Doing the final questline for the foe's ring, last ring to plat.
@Tinodakid23
@Tinodakid23 4 жыл бұрын
So yurt is already in the nexus. Is it too late to kill him? I didn’t fight the man eater yet 😭
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be. Go ahead and murder him.
@Tinodakid23
@Tinodakid23 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage oh no I already did. Lol he started killing people
@Tinodakid23
@Tinodakid23 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage hey do you think you can lend a hand in a boss fight please?
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tinodakid23 Should be able to. I'm online now. Do you have Discord?
@Tinodakid23
@Tinodakid23 4 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage hey yes I do
@spikeyfied
@spikeyfied 3 жыл бұрын
Uhm... i killed Ostrava in the World and Mephistopheles still tells me to kill him.... why doesn't she go on to the Witch? Do i really have to go through another Playthrough? 😒
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 3 жыл бұрын
Trying buying absolution at the statue in the nexus. Sometimes she gets bugged.
@spikeyfied
@spikeyfied 3 жыл бұрын
@@SweetJohnnyCage I tried but i found a solution, if you kill Ostrava in 1-1 Boletaria after she gives you the order to do so, you also have to kill his red Phantom form in 1-4, that solved it and i Platinumed Demon's Souls Remake yesterday ❤
@skenyplays790
@skenyplays790 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t kill astrava my self She told me to kill him but I never found him. I returned to her and she skipped him. ? I got lucky
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
He probably died in 1-3. He can get into trouble even after you rescue him from the red eye knights.
@michaeledie8474
@michaeledie8474 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s say I only care about the ring and yuria is still alive but Ostrava is dead? Will I still be able to get the ring or do I need to wait till ng+
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 4 жыл бұрын
You can still get it.
@andthestars
@andthestars 2 жыл бұрын
so how do you attune magic if..the magic users are dead
@SweetJohnnyCage
@SweetJohnnyCage 2 жыл бұрын
Have to wait until NG+
@dominicp9296
@dominicp9296 4 жыл бұрын
I never played the original demon souls but I played all the dark souls even know that has nothing to do with anything just pointing out im not a noob with these games but this world tenendacy is confusing as hell to me for some reason. On a side note her hit list are like all the characters I like lol im trying to get to pure white in the plague area so I can kill garl vinlands phantom but I'm having a hard ass time
@DarthRoger618
@DarthRoger618 4 жыл бұрын
is this still do-able if u killed patches in the fire place with the bug bears lol
@e.x2603
@e.x2603 4 жыл бұрын
Did you perhaps find a solution? In my case he just disappeared, i got the task to kill him but i cant find him nowhere.. maybe yurt has killed him before me
@TheWorldOfAwsome
@TheWorldOfAwsome 4 жыл бұрын
The quest will just skip patches. You only need to kill Yuria for the ring and trophy.
@DarthRoger618
@DarthRoger618 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldOfAwsome good to know.
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