Mercedes-Benz S320 vs Lexus LS400 - Comparison & Review (1997)

[@jackedrussell]

This is a pretty terrible comparison. 4l V8 Lexus vs 3.2l straight 6. The guy is only giving pros of the S class, the woman is only giving cons about the LS400, she didn't even mention there are almost no optional extras on the LS400, just about everything comes as standard for the £46K price whereas just about everything on the S class is an optional extra. They also said "both have a 0-60 time of under 9 seconds." but didn't mention the LS400 is a full 3 seconds quicker to 60 than the S320. The top speed of the LS400 is also almost 20 mph faster than the S320. They also forgot to mention the LS400 is quieter than the S320, even though the S320 has double glazing and the LS400 doesn't. I'm not saying the S class is a bad car, but they should have at least compared the S400 as well as mention the pros and cons of both cars.

[@W140MercedesS600]

Your basically Comparing the price and options regardless the Mercedes is better quality

[@jackedrussell]

The price and engines. They are comparing a 4.0 litre V8 to a 3.2 litre straight 6.

[@Nightbird.]

Shan Mirza Wrong. As a current owner of a MB S Class..I can tell you right now that you will be spending thousands of dollars on repairs..while with a Lexus all you will spend is on oil changes and regular maintenance. Which is why my next car will be a Lexus.

[@W140MercedesS600]

What happened to your S Class that cost you thousands? Iam so curious to know!

[@Nightbird.]

Shan Mirza Please understand that I come from a family of Doctors & Lawyers (I am a Doctor) that only drove luxury European autos..that being only two brands..BMW & Mercedes Benz. The BMW's were driven by younger family members who wanted fast cars with great steering. And the MB's were driven by the older members who placed a higher value on a luxurious ride and presence. I fell into the MB side..and was very happy with how beautiful my S Class looked. Everywhere I went people complimented me. People were also jealous of my car..and if I parked it at a mall or restaurant..I sometimes would come back to see a scratch on the door..or someone had tried to steal the silver star from the hood. However..my family warned me about the price of ownership of these vehicles..and that was with repairs. Let me say that this car has been relatively reliable. It always starts..and has never stalled on me or left me stranded. That's not the issue. The issue is the terrible electronics it has..and the problems with the transmission. MB has already admitted publicly that they made a terrible mistake when they outsourced their electronic components, as the company whom they purchased them from had terrible quality. This happened after the W126 model..which ended production in 1992..although I believe it continued production a year or two longer in Africa. So from the W140 model up to now..electronics are a HUGE problem with MB cars. And the costs of repairs is outrageous..as anyone like myself who has had to have them done can tell you. I also had huge engine problems..to the point I had to replace the entire engine. Keep in mind I don't drive this car in harsh environments like my family members who live in Dubai. I drove this car in an American city with no snowfall or really bad weather. Then..my transmission started slipping so badly my mechanic said "Sir..I can repair this of course..but it will cost as much to do this as you buying another transmission..". So..I bought another transmission. And none of these repairs were under warranty..as the car warranty was over. So my car..the venerable S Class..a car that is supposed to be the finest car built on earth..is on it's second engine and transmission..and has had most of it's electronics replaced as well. And I STILL have problems with my antennae going up & down..my windows rolling up & down..and lights on my dash not lighting up properly. Do I love my car? Of course I do. It was my dream car. But my dream has turned into a nightmare. Now here is the thing that really angers me. All my friends who drive Lexus LS's NEVER have any of these problems. Nothing. Ever. And they have even lent me their cars when mine is in the repair shop..and guess what? The damn LS feels EXACTLY like my S Class does. Same luxurious ride. Same weighted steering. Same quiteness. If I had been blindfolded and given rides in both cars..I wouldn't know the difference. And THAT my friend really bothers me. Because it means MB could in fact build a reliable car..instead of costing us thousands upon thousands in repairs. Some people at my MB dealership have confided in me that MB does this on purpose to keep their dealership repair shops happy..that this is how they make money. All I know is that enough is enough..I am done spending money on repairing my car when I could have used it to buy another nice watch..or another vacation to Hawaii. I have warned my friends who still want to buy this car to impress others that "mark my words..yes it will be wonderful for a while..and you will fall in love with it..but just like a bad lover..it will hurt you in the end..and you will regret it". They never believe me..until it happens..and then they are calling me saying "How in the world can this be happening?! Why are they asking me to pay thousands to repair something on my MB that never breaks down in a Lexus..or even a Hyundai for god's sake!". And that's when they trade their car in for a Lexus and the complaints stop. I have already spent so many thousands on my S Class that I am keeping it for now because quite frankly nobody will give me anything near what I have spent on it if I trade it in for another car. But believe me..when the current engine and/or the transmission dies again..it will be a Lexus. Those of us who love MB don't leave the car easily..we love the brand..the image..and the initial good quality. But MB has left us..they have cheated us of great quality..and the only way to enjoy a MB now is to lease it and trade it in before it bites you in the ass if you decide to keep it longer than a couple of years. Sorry for the long story..but you seem very committed to this brand..as I was..and I felt you needed to know the truth. You can also google "mercedes benz lemon law lawsuit" to see the countless other stories of people like me who have spent thousands on repairs and some who have even sued MB in court over such bad quality and have even won. Take care.

[@kode3]

Considering I only see this gen LS400 still on the road in 2019 kinda says it all.

[@Themrjdmintegra0094]

All I see is first gens in cali lol

[@Themrjdmintegra0094]

Actually 1 gen second gen on 2.1 gens lol

[@littleortega7385]

I got a 97 lexus ls400 v8

[@XvS6-Lemaza]

S320, 420 and 500 all over the place in mid east, still rolling on crappy roads...

[@seddam]

W140s STILL on the road. I've never seen LS 400 in my country. (it doesn't mean they don't exist)

[@IHATEYANKS41]

To be fair both these cars were made at the prime of both manufacturers times

[@ZeeHakim]

She's complaining, he's complementing, this is a biased review... And if I had to choose, I'll take the Lexus of course

[@W140MercedesS600]

Lexus are garbage I am a mechanic!

[@ZeeHakim]

+Shan Mirza How can you say that??? I drive a Lexus and it's the best car I've driven.

[@lillnemo1]

Shan Mirza in my experience, mechanics or people who complain about Lexus and asian cars in general to be garbage, ... most of the times just don't like they are not always "as easy to work on" those people prefer a 2015 car that's build with 1980's "technology" and mechanics over a 1990's car that's more advanced, thus also a little less easy to work on a car is garbage when things break down, when the car/interior rattles, ... that's stuff you encounter owning ONE) a US car two) a french or italian or british car (not rolls royce offcourse) three) german cars, volvo and saab (I own a volvo btw, I know!!!!) four) asian cars five) Subaru, Toyota (and scion since that's the same) six) Lexus (or it's Toyota version in japan)

[@SunnySingh-xj9od]

Shan Mirza your face is garbage.

[@W140MercedesS600]

How many 1999 Lexus do you see on the roads today? I just sold my S320 1999 in mint condition with 490,000kms amazing car!

[@jasoncarpp7742]

I love the first generation Lexus LS400.

[@SuperSedans]

This was a second.

[@jasoncarpp7742]

Was it? I didn't notice.

[@SuperSedans]

Jason Carpp Yeah, first was from 1989-1994. It was that version with less technical problems, and with more comfortable softer suspension, The second is from 1994-1997, facelift front and back, replace lights, redesign interior, third one from 1997-2000, fourth from 2000-2006 (W140 MB looks), and the latest from 2006-today

[@jasoncarpp7742]

I'm afraid I've never owned a Lexus of any model. But I still prefer the first gen LS400.

[@BornToBeFamed]

SuperSedans 94-97 was my fav. I want a 94-95 ob1 computer

[@vladsta3833]

Both good but when it got released the LS got everyone SHOOK

[@vinayak4859]

When w140 released it made everything look like a willys

[@lIlllllIIIllllllllll]

The W140 S-Class has to be one of the greatest cars EVER made! And if you're not convinced, do some research on it and look at some videos of it on KZbin.

[@zachyoung2002]

You meant LS400

[@soulfulmoodstring62]

Zachary Young You mean actually the way around, turn around SLS600

[@joesinegal8167]

I'm Commenting 6 Years After Your Initial Comment. I Don't See Any Version Of 1990 Series Mercedes's S Class Vehicles On The Road's In Northern California, USA! Matter Of Fact, I Don't See Any Early 2000 Series's Of S Class Vehicles Either! I Still See Quite A Few Original 1990 LS400 Vehicles As Well As Late 1990's LS400's Everywhere! The LS400 Is Mechanically And Reliably Far Superior To Anything That Mercedes's Has Ever Built Period! If Mercedes's Was Superior Built And More Reliable, We'd Still See Older Modes On The Road In Equal Number's As The LS400 Or Any Other Lexus Versions Of LS Models! The Sad Truth Is That Mercedes Builds A Pretty Looking Product That's One Of The Worst Reliable Vehicle's To Own Period! They're Great Vehicles To Lease, But You Better Not Purchase One If Your Looking To Own One Long Term Outright! Just Because Something Looks Good To You, Doesn't Mean Its Good For You! Mercedes Can't Touch Or Come Close To Lexus Long Term Reliability! Lexus Is Far Superior For Long Term Ownership! I Speak From Experience! The Truth Hurt's! Lexus Forever!

[@smacdiesel]

@@joesinegal8167 I live in SoCal and I see w140's all the time.

[@_drivingdowntown1365]

@@joesinegal8167 here in Europe (particularly countries around Germany or Germany), we see a lot of older Mercedes S or E classes but I have never seen an old LS on the road. So in Europe it’s the other way around

[@Vontharau47]

Both cars are reliable when you service them properly - there is a LS400 and w140 s500 around the corner and both still run properly. The Merc looks better though, because somebody is taking care of it properly. I live in Germany btw. Problem is that there are many people, that can't afford to service these high class limousines properly so they either let them die or they sell them as soon as a few things got damaged which is very sad for a car guy i consider myself.

[@johnw1954]

You can neglect an LS400 much, much more, especially in oil changes.

[@Jmjdit]

@@johnw1954is there any objective proof of that?

[@johnw1954]

@@Jmjdit Yes. I haven't changed my oil since trump was in office, 50,000mi ago.

[@the8419]

@@johnw1954that’s saying more about oil quality than anything else. I have no doubt that any Mercedes engine in the past 50-60 years would be fine on that interval. It’s obviously stupid and not ideal for any car, but true. Don’t forget Lexus engines were using timing belts at the time, which would be considered absolutely unacceptable on a Mercedes, but don’t rely on oil for lubrication like chains do.

[@aka7minimouse]

Resell value on my 1997 LS400 was higher than the Sclass

[@penvon]

You can get a 2000-2006 S class for the same price as civic of the same year.

[@aka7minimouse]

Lol so true

[@peterrafeiner9461]

+aka7minimouse You do not buy/drive these kind of cars for resale value or gas mileage. You show up at a meeting in a Mercedes and you have arrived. You show up in a Toyota... sorry, Lexus and you park in the back. Seriously. Vallet parking (I hate it!!) anywhere, my car is parked right in the front every time.

[@penvon]

+Peter Rafeiner but wouldn't it be an embarrassment when you call the tow truck to pick up your Mercedes in front all these "classy" folks? I mean they're not the most reliable trust worthy vehicle when aged,realistically speaking mercedesbenzsucks.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/mercedes-benz-sucks/

[@peterrafeiner9461]

penvon Tow truck can happen to anyone; also good maintenance will reduce the risk. And no, it takes more to embarrass me than a car with a bad attitude :-) I'm on my 4th Merc so far and no problems out of the ordinary. The newer models (like all newer cars) have more computers, buttons, electric this and sensor that... Let's face it, these things WILL fail eventually no matter what car has them installed (you do know that many of the items in a car come from subcontractors; right). I also had BMWs (no thanks) and Ford (thanks for the night mares). As you can guess, I am a bit older so I do not buy cars to impress the head cheerleader; anymore :-)

[@herrgolf]

What a biased review.

[@METHIXLMFAO]

+herrgolf how?

[@BEU203]

They keep talking about how good the Mercedes is

[@METHIXLMFAO]

Yeah I feel like the LS was better those days, too bad the 4th gen LS is utter BS compared to the W221 S-Class. All rumors say 5LS will debut at NAIAS 2017 and hopefully it will bring back Lexus prestige

[@JsnLwrnce]

Meth Jayasekera Now that the new LS has debuted, what are your thoughts?

[@METHIXLMFAO]

JsnLwrnce Its definitely gonna make a comeback

[@tibchy144]

mercedes is much more stylish and it has always been a benchmark for luxury full size sedans

[@97I30T]

If I were buying and old S Class or an Old LS400 I’d pick the LS400 without even hesitating. The LS has held up so much better over time than the S Class has.

[@4.8Flatbed]

There's a whisper of wind noise lol as she has the sun roof cover open

[@HPGruener]

They are both timeless cars nevertheless!

[@MRJuJuPoWeR64d]

Keep in mind that the LS400 was made to battle the W126, not W140, W140 was made as an answer to LS400, same goes with BMW E38, which was built after the E32 lost the battle to the Lexus.

[@19jacobob93]

The W140 wasn't an answer to the LS400 haha it went into development in 1983 which was the same year Lexus was established...

[@19jacobob93]

The W140 wasn't an answer to the LS400 haha it went into development in 1983 which was the same year Lexus was established...

[@seddam]

Lol, w126 came out in 1979, and W140 was ready to start production in 1989, it got delayed because of V12 600SEL model.

[@Jmjdit]

@@19jacobob93the W140 was launched after the LS400 with modifications/improvements to ensure it exceeded the LS400.

[@nwezetx1]

​@jeremyc6827 That isn't true. It's some BS conjecture peddled by an ignorant journalist at LS 460 press introduction in 2006 and dumbly copied by one gullible idiot to KZbin. That never happened and I'm a fan of Lexus. I hate misinformation and false rumors.

[@maddywendall2980]

I don't think even to this day, any car is equal to the S Class, it is in it's own stratosphere.

[@bliglum]

Lexus was the far, FAR better investment. Especially for those who planned on keeping it for more than a few years.. Mercedes repair bills are frequent and costly.

[@wholeNwon]

+bliglum My LS is almost 18 years old now and I hope to continue to own it indefinitely. The M-Bs I owned seemed always to have something broken beginning within weeks of purchase (new).

[@fahedsayed2201]

nothing broke on your lexus in 18 years ?

[@wholeNwon]

19 years last April. Yes. One of the cigarette lighters lost power. I fixed it myself easily. There is a small leak in the front seal of the power steering pump. Added some Lucas PS pump sealer and it stopped. I had to tighten the nuts that hold the valve covers in place. Replaced wiper blades, brake pads, batteries and tires...oh, and one brake light bulb.

[@fahedsayed2201]

Thats impressive. Whats the mileage on your car and which merc did you have ?

[@wholeNwon]

151000. 280E and 260E. The LS400 and LS430 are, in my opinion and that of many others, among the very best, if not the best, cars ever made. But we all value different things in cars. For me it's reliability, safety and comfort. I know a fair amount about cars and find the dealer service very disappointing. The quality of the techs. is high but the business practices are not. My friends have had similar adverse interactions. At least that's been my experience. M-B was even worse in my case and I got especially good treatment. In fact, it was my M-B tech., who was really excellent, who told me to consider Lexus LS. He thought it was a superior vehicle. I agree.

[@mohammedal-randi6816]

I'm from Kuwait and I know that the heat of the weather can show you the goodness and the badness of the cars. The Mercedes can bare the weather easily, I travel from Kuwait to Bahrain easily with no problems, even the Syrian people or Jordanin or Egyptian, they all travel using the Merc ... Lexus has more defects and problems, and they cannot innovate a car like the Merc! So Mercedes is the king of all ;)

[@W140MercedesS600]

Salam You are 100%right, I drive a '99 S320 and I live in Canada, - 20 to - 30 it drives and starts nice Lexus are garbage I see them break down on the side of the highway

[@W140MercedesS600]

Really I have seen many Lexus cars broke down on the side of the road , I have driven mercedes from mid 80's to late 90's never once has my car broken down. You talk about people who switch from mercedes to Lexus because they never owned and older mercedes or know much about them they have only bought one in their life! Lexus is garbage mercedes is pure luxury I have been working mercedes since I was 17!

[@W140MercedesS600]

-Only the Germans know how to build cars period -Mercedes are the leaders in automobile innovation -Mercedes are the inventor of automobiles!

[@W140MercedesS600]

Your 100% wrong the G class is the best off road in the world which is originally built for the military and hand built NO Japanese car could ever be better than a Mercedes period! Toyota are cheaply made cars that have way too many defects!

[@lillnemo1]

It just is a FACT that lexus is more reliable than a mercedes if indeed you experience the mercedes to be more reliable, it's probably a basic version without a lot ot options Worldwide, toyota and lexus are number ONE in reliability it's proven, it's tried, it's tested, it's TRUE

[@Elonmusk898]

Whoever said Mercedes is not reliable is an idiot! You obviously never own a Mercedes and should not comment. I own a C220 CDI it has 250,000 miles and still running like brand new I also own the petrol series C250 with 180,000 miles and its never skip a beat. Before I bought the Mercedes I used to own Lexus IS250 with 70,000 miles and its going to mechanic few times a year because of electric issues. Mercedes always innovate new technology and safety, reliable, and very well built. It is a rumor that people says Mercedes break down easily because lets face it Mercedes is one of the best selling car and its not by accident because it is an excellent car. Lexus maybe a good car but to say Mercedes is unreliable and to say its worse than Lexus is bunch of bullshit! Mercedes is an excellent built automobile

[@gabrielalexanderpalma6083]

not true, ive had 4 mercedes... one of them being a w140 s500 from 1994 and it has never broken.. currently at 140k miles.. none of them have ever broken except a single air pump in the 2006 cls500..

[@kierancurtis8545]

LS400 every time! Better built, better electrics, better rust resistance and far more reliable....

[@gabrielalexanderpalma6083]

idk? i have a 1994 s500 and nothing has ever broken on it... almost 140k miles.. 315hp v8 engine with about 475 lb-ft of torque.. front and rear power adjusted seats, front and rear heated seats, very cold and very warm ac/heater, amazingly smooth ride, double pained windows keep almost all sound out.. you cant even hear the crazy loud and deep horn, auto closing doors, rear sunshade, i could go on forever.. but the most important thing (over the power, of course) is the quality.. when i was looking at cars i checked out an ls400 and when i got in the w140 s500... the quality of the materials didnt even compare..

[@adriannyasia]

Lexus parts usually cost you your first born. Not so much with MB. W140's were built like tanks. I know, I own multiple for a reason.

[@97I30T]

Metalunique Depends on where you live. In Europe I’m sure Mercedes parts are cheap but they’re horrendously expensive in North America. In the United States a Lexus is by far cheaper to own than a Mercedes.

[@adriannyasia]

I live in the U.S... I still find MB parts to be far less expensive than Lexus.. Turned down one of my dream cars (92 sc400) because they're money pits..

[@Cooley96]

SC 400 a money pit? It's common to find entire transmissions for under $1000? What were the parts for that vehicle that were more expensive than a W140's parts?

[@DRAGONIKification]

Lexus!!!

[@GF-mf7ml]

German vs Japanese Tank good old days.

[@mikldude9376]

I wonder if these cars had the adjustable suspension, air suspension on the Lexus is very nice, some models had strut /coil set up, the auto retracting steering wheel in the Lexus on key removal is very cool too.

[@coolslc]

Guaranteed that out of these 2 cars the LS is still running like new 👍🏼

[@basshead.]

Not true at all. Lexus LS400 ''N450 PPJ'' MOT Expired: 17 August 2012 MB S320 ''P299 ERP'' MOT Expired: 19 January 2019

[@19jacobob93]

Yeah I'm going to have to disagree too unfortunately! They are both fantastic however the Lexus was designed to last 200,000 miles with minimal repairs, whereas the W140 was designed to last until the end of time as long as you had the money for maintenance haha But in saying that these Mercs all had dual row timing chains that have gone 1,000,000km without being replaced where the Lexus needs a timing belt and water pump changing every 160,000km which can be expensive, and it's usually this procedure that has them sent to the wreckers when the cost of doing so overtakes the car's value. That could be reflected by the fact that the Lexus in the video was scrapped 7 years before the MOT expired on the W140.

[@Brian-ew6ct]

Still got my 99 ls400, everything in it works great like new, tough leather all the electronics work, I got mine with the GPS system still works great.. little outdated but works, & all this with 213xxx miles I've owned Mercedes & bmw & audi... this is my first lexus, I've had it for 5 years & ohh man... all I'm going to say is I sold all my European cars. Still have my lextank in the garage ready for another 200k

[@19jacobob93]

Two absolutely fantastic cars that occupy two different corners of the same class! I can offer unbiased experiences as I can see people are swinging one way or another, probably based on what they currently own... The LS was a techno marvel, very reliable but of course completely void of character or 'soul'. The interiors were well put together and solid feeling but the materials weren't over the top, as there was a bit more plastic and not much in the way of real wood, if any at all if I recall. The W140 was much the same however it had a few more problematic areas, yet was somehow better put together in general. This was especially noticeable in the interior which definitely felt more special and famously has that 'bank vault' feeling that no other car has marched since. The leather was spot on and there was real hand finished wood all over. I feel the W140 has slightly more wind noise at speed but the double glazed windows help keep it to a minimum. The 4.0 in the Lexus is an absolute marvel of a V8 and extremely reliable, so long as maintenance is kept up to scratch as it has a timing belt which will destroy the engine if left to perish, and it's aluminium block is sensitive to overheating. This can be an expensive procedure to add to the maintenance schedule if you plan on keeping one for a long time. The W140 offered a huge variety of engines but I only have experience with the 3.2L M104 inline 6, which is also a marvel. They have a tendency to leak oil but other than that they have a dual row timing chain and a cast iron block i.e. they are literally designed to last forever - completely indestructible. I have some experience with the M120 V12 also offered in the W140 but in an SL600. Those are a masterpiece, however they can be a bit expensive to maintain at this stage of their life. Overall I think the LS would be a safer option for a daily driver, however I don't think they are cars that you would spend an excessive amount on keeping alive, and a large mechanical bill would probably have me send one to the wreckers. The W140 will most likely require more work over the same period (but that might be offset by the Lexus' requirement to have the timing belt and water pump replaced periodically), however I think it would be more worthwhile as they hold more of a classic status than the Lexus. The W140 is a car that people don't seem to have an issue with pouring money into to keep them on the road because they are just that bit more special. All in all it depends on what you want. You could sit here arguing all day but they are both different cars that appeal to different buyers! I actually know someone who has both, and for the reasons I stated he daily drives the Lexus for work, and the W140 on weekends. However he states that he would replace the Lexus (possibly with another Lexus) but the W140 he will not part with until the day he dies.

[@brandondamico4190]

“Lexus was formed in 1993”.....this right here says everything you need to know about the video 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@CrazyforCruiser]

1:24 She said 1983 not 93.

[@nwezetx1]

That's not even fully accurate. LS 400 planning began in 1983 as silver jubilee model targeted for 1987 launch. Lexus as a brand came later in 1986-87. LS 400 was initially planned as a super Toyota flagship with export in mind, until USA execs shot it down in 1986 and pushed for separate branding, an insult to the prideful Toyoda family.

[@quentin818]

What a crap review, the LS is probably the best car ever made, deliberately under stated, and the Mercedes is all so grate, a proper head to head would be good. Them two clowns have no business talking cars,

[@rickspartan6589]

The S320 is a wonderful car but the LS400 is far easier to live with. What is it with English car reviewers and their bias towards European brands? Must it steal your money and time in order to give it that "personality" quality they say is missing from a Lexus?

[@mrdoofa9357]

Lexus wins, no contest.

[@sciencenotes1229]

be the fan of lexus

[@dieselprime5386]

In my personal opinion both cars are reliable, but for a decent fuel economy, i would choose the W140 with the 3.2 l6

[@ariellubonja7856]

The w140 has an endless list of innovations to its name. What new technology did the Lexus bring??

[@LeeePowers]

One thing most overlooked,is all aluminium V8 with 6 bolt main bearing caps. Noting this side of a race track had it,competitors took about 5 years to follow suit. I dont think you get it. The first gen LS was nearly "hand built"quality. Some robotic welds were invisible to the human eye. It was the most aerodynamically slippery car until Mazdas FD RX7. When new,LS400 blew away the Europeans in every possible way. Faster,lighter,quicker,quieter,higher tech,Pioneer sound system, better mpg,aerodynamics,you name it. And it was priced better. Mercedes boss was fired nearly as a result of Lexus sucess. They also perfected the CPO program. The first Lexus were so well made,they were nearly new when they were traded in.

[@thefiveguy5258]

A gps and air ride for a fraction of the price, plus 32 valve aluminum v8

[@ariellubonja7856]

@@LeeePowers I can name a way it was behind: safety. the W140 pioneered the ESP

[@MAINEiac06]

Electrolumnescent gauges, reliability that even the Germans agree was unmatched, 32 valve v8.....Cadillac tried the v8 thing after them and it was legendary for being bad.

[@joe6096]

Lexus didnt need innovations to be class leading and still doesn’t. Impeccable assembly and reliability are what they offer over Mercedes. Like you Mercedes laughed at them too when they came out in 1989. After Lexus started cleaning the floor with Mercedes in sales the folks at Stuttgart weren’t laughing.

[@AlphaV2]

Yes... I'd take the Lexus LS400 over the S320 of that generation any day!

[@strangevibrations]

If you spot any of these cars today you wouldn't have to be a genius to tell the better car of the two. Lexus is like a bottle of wine, gets better with age

[@westking457]

Raihan Abdul well said my friend👌

[@getDHuw2]

got the japanese version of LS400. full opt. Celsior 97, you guys should check this out. Best car ive ever had. 97 but interior can match the interior of today's bmw 7s and mercs s class. back seat passenger has full control of the aircon, radio, vibrating chair(some kind of massage), heater, foot space and you can even adjust the back rest. I still cant belive that this car was built almost 20 years ago

[@AlCabanas]

Which one of this: MB S-class w140 vs BMW 7-series vs Lexus LS400 is the quietest inside?

[@SuperSedans]

I used to have a MY '92 W140 500SEL, now am stuck with the w220. In terms quitness W140 was better than any E32, and similar to the E38. Lexus LS 400 especially with quitness is better that both of this cars. At 100km/h lex has 58dB and S class with v8 engine has 62/63dB. W140 has to got most comfortable ride of this bunch on the bumps. But I don't saw a sense in this video. LS 400 should be compared to the W140 500SE/L, or at least 400SE/L. Both eight cylinder m119 engines. The S320 is underpowered with under 200 bhp. A lexus 245 bhp vs mb 279 bhp would be fair.

[@W140MercedesS600]

SuperSedans the double pane glass on the Mercedes is sound proof I know cause I own one

[@SuperSedans]

Yes that's true, but Lexus is still more quiet. Even when you compared the 600SEL.

[@W140MercedesS600]

I don't know about that the w140 is sound proof with double pane glass, I have been in a Lexus they are very noisy compared to the w140 S Class not to mention how smooth they are

[@W140MercedesS600]

Lexus is not at Mercedes level at all sorry to say

[@ronanwhite6785]

In 1990 Lexus launched the LS400 in the U.K., a year after its US launch. It was up against Jaguar, BMW, and Mercedes. It was the new kid on the block and sent major shivers through the old established marques. Mercedes were yet to introduce their new S class and were replacing a model that had been in production for nigh on thirteen years. The new S class was designed to be seen outside all the embassies, golf clubs and millionaires rows. It became exceedingly heavy, both in weight and looks, very slab sided and solid. It’s unique for its time features like double glazing and parking aids and air bags made it stand out. The year of this review, the Lexus had had its first facelift and tweak but was still very recognisable as a descendant of the first LS. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it??? The Mercedes went on to do what it does best and convey Teutonic strength... but as the years roll by, they wear out, suspension and brakes suffer due to the weight, as do tyres. Mercedes regularly throw their original gearboxes by 120k miles, rust is also an issue for many Mercs, especially E Class and sprinters of the 1990’s... Here in the U.K. I rarely see an S Class of the 90’s now but regularly see older Lexus models, because as used older Japanese vehicles they are still inherently reliable. Their electrics rarely fail like Mercedes famed biodegradable canbus systems, and their drivetrains are virtually bullet proof. Don’t get me wrong, I like both brands, I own vehicles from both these manufacturers but for me I’d take the Lexus every time. It was a very biased review, they didn’t swap cars at any point and have to give opinions on two cars each rather than one. In the U.K. prestigious brands always charged extra for every new feature including unbelievably a radio right into the 1980’s, possibly the Japanese being responsible for including so much as standard in their specifications since the 1970’s that most manufacturers caught up and priced their cars with everything included by the 1990s! Mercedes and BMW were notorious for having ridiculous lists of what they still considered an option that came inclusive everywhere else! How else did Lexus manage its incredible repeat recognition in the customer satisfaction surveys and awards here in the JD Power surveys!

[@Jmjdit]

140k miles is a considerable life for an automatic transmission. Frequency of oil changes is a key factor in longevity.

[@nwezetx1]

This is not fully accurate whatsoever, but there's some truth to it. Please have all the facts right.

[@ronanwhite6785]

@@nwezetx1 My comment is entirely my personal opinion and not meant to mislead .

[@udflori]

Lexus interior make me think is like hiundai accent and the buttons too For me S classe is the king of the cars

[@Elonmusk898]

Agreed!

[@the80386]

does your mercedes S class run for decades without breaking the bank in repair bills? Nope, didn't think so.

[@adriannyasia]

The W140 is the most forgiving car in the world. Easy to repair. Parts aren't expensive (COMPARED TO LEXUS) and their handling and style is unlike any other. I'm not saying this because i own some, I'm saying it because theres a reason why I own multiple...

[@wuflu]

Didnt ls400 come with adaptive cruise controls in one of there option and up display with side to monitoring.

[@sumertheory]

the parktronic system sounds sophisticated

[@moriwaki1105]

400....Quietest....smoothest....best built.....most reliable......most enjoyable car I have ever owned.......they simply will never be anything like it again....the sound system is truly incredible too....I bought the 460 and it was a terrible drive compared to the 400.....had 400 7 years.....460 six months...enough said.

[@nowheelgap]

First gen Celsior here, it's an amazing car!

[@salimtufail]

1:15 It's not the limo version, it's known as the long wheelbase version, the S320L.

[@whiteliketar]

That original Lexus LS was quite a car. It really confused the crap out of the Germans . I drive a BMW today and will most probably buy the new 5 series but I am always admiring Lexus- they are truly a worthy contender - The new LS and especially their new coupe the LC I believe is stunning.

[@wholeNwon]

The fundamental difference is that the Lexus will be delivering a ownership experience marked by comfort and supreme reliability long after a succession of owners have given up on the German car and probably sent it to Goodwill or a salvage yard.

[@19jacobob93]

It's actually the exact opposite. Owners are MUCH more willing to dump money into a W140, they are one of those cars you keep forever, whereas unfortunately a lot of LS400s go to the wreckers these days when the owner gets slapped with the bill for the regular timing belt and water pump replacement which is just part of their scheduled maintenance. All Merc engines have timing chains which are generally good for 500,000+ miles however it can be other areas that become expensive haha

[@wholeNwon]

@@19jacobob93 No one likes timing belts. The 460s switched to chains, of course. But one of the many MB repairs will easily be the equivalent of a timing belt replacement and the Lexus may have needed nothing for those 100K miles. But with car ownership, it's often a matter of luck. I liked driving the M-B's that I had over 20 years, but the Lexus has been FAR more reliable. For me, quality = reliability. I've only had ONE over 23 yrs. and it's still my daily driver.

[@19jacobob93]

@@wholeNwon absolutely man, but what repairs were required on the Mercs? Personally both brands have been very reliable in my experiences

[@wholeNwon]

@@19jacobob93 Hard to remember over 43 yrs. 2 of the MB's (from Germany) arrived with factory defects. On one, at the first scheduled service, the cam shaft and related parts were replaced (lobes scratched). All motor mounts were replaced. Left stranded several times.Multiple trips for an issue the dealer couldn't solve. Regional service rep. fixed it. Even the dealer's loaner left me stranded! Tie rod end separated! I sure remember that! A/C compressors failed. Switched to Lexus on the advice of a Certified MB Master Tech., who was excellent. He had replaced the timing belt, etc. on a friend's and thought the car was "very impressive". Mine is still a daily driver and everything works. Had its first major repair last year...replaced a VVTi cam phaser.

[@19jacobob93]

@@wholeNwon insane! Never heard of all that going on any car!

[@davidhayes4814]

Lexus? Brilliant second hand. Cheap and is unlikely to go wrong.

[@asianskywalker]

Agreed. I bet you could still buy one with 200k miles and it and it'll still be bulletproof.

[@adriannyasia]

LMAO, I know some Benzitos runnin' around with half a mil on'em and they still run like sewing machines.

[@E34Benzin]

3:51 Is she stupid? LOL The LS 400 is one of the smoothest cars that I have ever driven, and that includes S Class (W140, W220, W221), A8 (D2, D3), 7 Series (E38) and VW Phaeton. It is simply like floating over a cloud. So smooth!

[@petemaverick869]

Women

[@George-ur8ow]

The euro versions I believe were double wishbone, and did not feature any air suspension. That was the case for the 1st version of the LS, this looks like the 2nd, not sure if it changed in europe by then

[@E34Benzin]

@@George-ur8ow They came standard with air suspension in Europe. The second gen at least came standard with springs in the US. Most of the ones I've seen there lack the air suspension.

[@George-ur8ow]

@@E34Benzin interesting, no rhyme or reason I can figure for that switch or decision being made. Probably a bottom line decision, or response from customers, i'd think?

[@E34Benzin]

@@George-ur8ow I don't know. I remember a Chris Coffey's review mentioning that the LS would come standard with air suspension in the US, unlike in the UK and Europe. But if you check out the units for sale now, it's the opposite. I doubt air suspension was even available in the US, but I'm not sure.

[@mgecko2959]

Mercedes in 90s like all German cars was great but if you wanted to install all the extra options that Lexus had you had to pay almost double the money. Everything was optional for extra price on Merc while Lexus had electric seats, windows, mirrors, steering column, AC, leather seats, great audio and many more options for the price of basic Mercedes. On top of that it was Merc 320 which was much slower than Lexus LS400 and if you wanted S500 it cost way more than LS400 and was still coming without electric windows or other options.

[@stephendyson.burrows1773]

I used to deliver them new,I always rated the Lexus above the German.still do all these years later.Just remember £50,000 now is £2000 in ten years time.,And that's just for a full service, set of discs and pads and maybe a silencer

[@IHATEYANKS41]

These Lexus’ are ferociously reliable and continue to be

[@Thenakedpeanutfarmer]

I disagree! The LS400 is the better vehicle of the two! And at a much better price! Love my 1992 LS400! But it’s a good video anyway! 😀😀😎👍✌️

[@Menandmotors]

Thanks for watching! 😊😎

[@1995RangeRover]

MB breaks and more costs are on the horizon to repair. Lexus is reliable and nice to look at. That's more important than 'heritage'!

[@lucky9Lives]

1995RangeRover the MB is a cult classic and very collectable now people just want to have this model!!

[@Silence.93]

Lexus 😍👑

[@wolfgang7812]

@ 1:15 that's an understatement the merc' looks like a death trap for backseat passengers.

[@kararal-shimary7870]

Lexus all day

[@punkem733]

I'm an American car lover, but I will say the LS400 is the best car ever built.

[@king-oi8ry]

LS400!

[@andreimitoiu1934]

Mercedes forever!

[@Lordspaghett]

I still see ls400s driving around, not so much old s class cars..

[@fxv8276]

I have never seen a LS400 in my country. But many old s classes

[@Lordspaghett]

@@fxv8276 Are you in Europe?

[@fxv8276]

@@Lordspaghett yes and all I want to say is, it depends on where you live.

[@JJ-LT]

Watching this gorgeous LS, in 2022!

[@mh-ye1vw]

Benz all day long always and forever............ I have a w202 c43 amg by the way and i love it😍

[@Eddiek1969]

LEXUS - Rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@3UZFE]

Woeful, bias presenters.

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

Both great cars..and now a bargain...as hybrids have taken over from diesel and petrol!

[@boomboombam7]

Well if this video isn't biased into making you buy their product. I mean c'mon you're talking shit about Lexus finest automobile. I've had 3 and Lexus is definitely the best when it comes to reliability. Not a boring car by any means either

[@vr6gls]

The fact they are comparing the top trim LS400 to the entry level, short wheel base S320 S-Class should tell you how much better an S-Class is. Especially the W140. The S500 and S600 would wipe the floor with the Lexus in power and luxury. Lexus fans will say “but the Lexus is much cheaper!” People with the money to buy these cars aren’t looking for a bargain. They are looking for a luxury experience, and Mercedes delivers that in spades.

[@billybellend1155]

The W140 S-Class was the last ever over engineered Mercedes ever built. The Lexus was just a big Toyota they even badged them Toyota in Japan. Mercedes S-Class is a pioneer the Big Toyota is a poor copy of a W126.

[@woostersheer1]

There is even an insinuation that the LS is as much of a beast in a parking lot as an S though that is not at all the reality. The LS is 5 inches shorter, 2 inches narrower, and the turning diameter is 5 feet less. Parking the LS is less stress inducing compared to any modern mid sized car, and that's without the benefit of a back up camera.

[@blakebias9515]

the Lexus ls and the w140 mercedes are fare more reliable than the new mercedes benz and built better to.

[@schwanzelstock1071]

+Blake Bias You don't have the money for a new one so you shouldn't comment about it. ssssssssh ok nobody.

[@SeanOMatic]

Except, he is right. The new Mercedes Chrysler Benz' are absolute crap. Their electronics are in the stone age and Mercedes has definitely slipped up. There is a reason Lexus is the #1 rated manufacturer in the world when it comes to reliability and customer satisfaction. Old Mercedes' were amazing. The Turbo Diesels and 90's S-Class cars were great. New Mercedes? Overpriced fucking jokes.

[@Mercefreaken]

Er... Daimler got rid of Chrysler back in 2007 - at about the same time when quality started going up again. Cars like the W204 C-class and W212 E-class are very reliable cars! In fact, here in Europe, the E-class has turned out to be *the* most reliable car several years in row, after checking and analysing more than 15.000.000 (!) used cars.

[@rueben44]

Horrid review!!! Both were great for the time but the Benz was considered more. Still the LS was more modern, at the time, and was smooth so I don't know what the female in the clip is talking about.

[@سيفالقصابي-ذ7ز]

Oman Lexus ♡♥♡

[@anthonycbrown1952]

Mercedes is a special car!!! For each year it grows older, you realize the cost of repairs exceeds the value of the vehicle. Ask any owner what it costs for Mercedes to repair / replace that air suspension. Lexus - The luxury of not having a car to take you to the cleaners.

[@uberenthusiasts]

Lexus- when the Camry isn’t enough.

[@Nikola_W211]

Owner of 3 mercedes I 100% disagree with you the mercedes w140 is often called as a tank high quality car and ultra reliable

[@CW-tg5xy]

I am surprised which one of these is still running Lexus ls400 Untaxed 1 March 2013, MOT expired 17 Aug 2012 Mercedes s320 Taxed 1 April 2018, MOT 19 January 2018

[@blahblah7720]

how did find this out?

[@blahblah7720]

Hwo did you find this out?

[@lachlancook6718]

Mercedes must have been a big advertising partner.

[@Aßudii]

benz it's perfect

[@xXVibrantSnowXx]

As much as I really love Lexus, I would take that Benz over it, it just got that classic elegance look Love both cars, built the Benz takes my vote

[@arlofs]

Lexus all the way.

[@peterrafeiner9461]

A Lexus is nothing but an upgraded Toyota made to compete in the high end -high profit- market in the USA. A Mercedes ist just that, a Merc...a Benz... every Movie, every TV show, the good -or bad- guy shows up in a Mercedes. This is not about options and horse power. It is about a Statement. And like it or not, nothing makes a statement like a Mercedes when it comes to the business world; or picking up a classy woman. Keep in mind that a Lexus ES and a Toyota Camry are build on the same platform !

[@12389h]

+Peter Rafeiner You'll be picking up repair bills more often then classy women. Mercedes ownership isn't what you think it is.

[@peterrafeiner9461]

***** I'm on my 4th so far in 40 years of driving and I am happy so far. Can't say the same for my past experiences with Fiat and Ford.

[@soulman1630]

+Peter Rafeiner No. You haven't tried a Lexus. A merc is just a brand name. A lexus is comfort, luxury, technology, and most of all RELIABILITY. Mercedes isn't know for its reliability. And the LS430 is way ahead of even modern S-classes - it is the quietest car on the road.

[@frankmagana1408]

+SOUL Man old mercedes are well known for their reliability. Theyre built like tanks, extremely solid cars. My friend has an w124 E320 and its literally one of the most solid cars ive ever seen

[@Elonmusk898]

+12389h Well you are wrong my father own an old 1982 W123 E class and it works like new until now with over 340,000 miles on the clock. I also drove a diesel C220 cdi that have been very reliable and never had any issues. Stop with the nonsense MB is unreliable because its not true! I have seen many Lexus which really is a rip off of toyota going to mechanic more than Mercedes Benz going to mechanic for faulty issues. The best or nothing

[@wolfgang7812]

In the Merc' you have to rely on the car to tell you how to maneuver and park??? What is the point of learning how to drive then? Just tell the car to do it all for you (at your own risk).

[@YouArentSlick]

Classic biased European reviewers. LS400 has more power and she complains about the throttle. It’s more refined but apparently that makes it too boring, I guess in their head an S Class is exciting

[@gabrielalexanderpalma6083]

i have a 1994 s500 and nothing has ever broken on it... almost 140k miles.. 315hp v8 engine with about 475 lb-ft of torque.. front and rear power adjusted seats, front and rear heated seats, very cold and very warm ac/heater, amazingly smooth ride, double pained windows keep almost all sound out.. you cant even hear the crazy loud and deep horn, auto closing doors, rear sunshade, i could go on forever.. but the most important thing (over the power, of course) is the quality.. when i was looking at cars i checked out an ls400 and when i got in the w140 s500... the quality of the materials didnt even compare..

[@nathanrector5584]

the 3.2 is capable of over 1200 hp

[@cawimmer430]

Why are they comparing an S320 to an LS400? A 6-cylinder against a V8? Come on. A 400SE (SEL) and later S420 existed. If these are two 1997 cars then the Mercedes that should be compared to the LS400 should have been the S420.

[@cb5620]

Perhaps, but as they mention in the video even with the 3.2 the Mercedes is (was) still far more expensive than the Lexus. As it's a consumer advice show it makes more sense to compare two which are similarly priced - it just so happens that for less money the Lexus came better equipped.

[@cawimmer430]

Back in the day I believe it was the Lexus strategy to undercut the competition via cheaper pricing while offering more features. It worked for them no doubt. Still an LS400 should be compared to a V8 S-Class, not a V6 - from a performance point of view. ;)

[@cb5620]

Maybe in a performance test a V8 Merc would be more relevant, but lets be honest if you wanted performance I don't think either of these land yachts are a particularly good place to start lol

[@cawimmer430]

Yeah, they're both comfortable cruisers. Not much difference between them in the way they ride and sound. That being said, I was never big on the W140 S-Class. To me it was the most dull S-Class ever. Boring inside and out. My favorite S-Classes ever are the W116 and the W126 (I used to have an '85 300SE, great car) and the current W222.

[@gabrielalexanderpalma6083]

well... the s500 w140 had 315 hp and 475 lb-ft torque.. mine on the dyno had 321 hp and 478 lb-ft of torque... its a fairly powerful car especially being as heavy as it is.. 0-60 in 6.7 seconds.. and when you step on it hearing the v8 slightly emanate into the cabin is beautiful...

[@mejiger]

Lexus ls400 my choice any time

[@andrewsrenson1212]

lexus should no longer be compared with mere mercs, beemers or audis but with rolls royce & bentley the rolls royce of cars is now lexus

[@lucky9Lives]

andrew srenson Nothing can compare to Mercedes Maybach made sure of that!! 😎

[@andrewsrenson1212]

Tony outlaw . maybach-merc is a pile of junk compared to lexus-toyota

[@lucky9Lives]

andrew srenson And with that statement you just made i now see & know, You are lost & know nothing!!😃😃😃😃

[@andrewsrenson1212]

Tony outlaw . geez, can't argue with "double" exclamation marks...lol

[@BornToBeFamed]

Long term the lexus was the better buy and still is

[@trv06kviper]

They should've compared the 5.0L V8 S500, 500SEL to the LS400. W140 though, that defined luxury cars. Mercedes really did go the Best or Nothing almost went bankrupt over that 1 car.

[@jhlaxbro27]

If you actually think that the LS is a better car in anyway than the Sclass you haven't been in either of the cars or done any research at all. S class is better in every measurable way!

[@AgentMrX7]

so the results are in, the Mercedes is still on the road in the UK but that Lexus was last taxed in 2013.. W140 is king.

[@mohammedal-randi6816]

Those that choose the Lexus are those that can't afford a Merc ;) The Merc was always and always the best of cars ever. I have a 1997 S320L Navy blue Merc and its still has its own respect and good look on the streets. :)

[@cheve1le]

You're talking out of your ass.

[@cheve1le]

***** lol not talking to you, talking to this fool mohammed

[@afa6361]

Idiot.

[@Lookandsee85]

Lol Mo Al-Randi…. They were nearly the same price so money and price weren’t the issue. Maybe you just couldn’t afford a Mercedes S420/S420L, S500L, or S600L? After all the S320/S320L is the poor poor mans S-Class. The only reason someone would purchase it was because they couldn’t afford the other models/engines.

[@vaughngrosshart819]

you see a lot more early 90s ls400 on the road than that s class... so that says something. funny though seems her complaints about the ls400 are the same as mine in my 97 es300. rough ride, wind noise at high speed, nicely crafted but dull interior. but my es is gonna roll over 200k miles this month and it still runs like a top

[@ms2beright]

+Vaughn Grosshart You got es no comparison you can't be part of this discussion

[@vaughngrosshart819]

+Sherita Ayanbule you mad?

[@lucky9Lives]

Vaughn Grosshart are you crazy the w140 benzs are a cult classic and very collectable now people just want to have this model!

[@Nikola_W211]

​​@@vaughngrosshart819who told you that? I seen more older mercedes than any other car brand i never seen older lexuses ever And i own 3 mercedes.

[@44altecz]

she is so biased the Mercedes looks old and out dated on the inside

[@woodroblue8332]

Never owned a Lexus but I like Mercedes well built car I have the s class luv it

[@daniellebray6472]

Dont see many 90s S classes anymore Forgot to talk about reliablity

[@Nikola_W211]

I never seen any old lexuses but always seen older mercedes

[@waelgalal5808]

sure w140 until now I see it in the road and still shiny

[@drftzzo3802]

It's so satisfying to see lexus reaching the level of luxury. at the past years and more than a decade we already know that the cars were really new and costed a not small amount of money. It's now 20s and the cars population gone too down but lexus is still alive in thier tires. Remember when Toyota had a hype with thier jz's sports and luxury cars at the time like the supras and chasers,they were great and they never been forgotten for thier engineering and model. Mercedes started to make more cars for peoples wich can afford a Mercedes like thoose a classes and e's but lexus/Toyota never build something incredible for now, Alright maybe the new supra wich BMW also helped to make a car but to be honest, the car is not a car when is not from thier hands, even many peoples complained to get 3jz. We maybe didn't realise that Toyota and even Nissan didn't brought us a sport car (except of supra and gt86) because they knew that the community is still alive and they knew that we still love the cars wich we got at the past. This is how lexus ls400 is still alive. Once my dad told:"older cars are better than new because they already have what they should have. They don't need hybrid, thickness, ultra smart gadgets or even thoose back seats TV, like for what is it? For relaxing? even tho you can sleep in the car instead."

[@-jimmyjames]

haha. yeah herrgolf . this lex 4 doesnt have the sport and suspension dampening buttons/features on shift console. not the best model.

[@comissarmemo9013]

Both are superb cars but lets be realistic Mercedes its way ahead of its time . Built to run forever . Best atomatic transmission in its class

[@wholeNwon]

+comissar memo My guess is that you may never have owned one long term, if at all. Mine were very unreliable despite having had excellent maintenance, all by the book. Truly good engineering and quality construction must equate to dependability. I switched to Lexus and will never go back.

[@SeanOMatic]

LOL @ built to run forever when the LS400's engine/transmission combo refuses to die. Seriously, there are so many 400K+ mile LS400's out there, it's ridiculous. S-Class are nice, but they don't over more longevity or build quality than the LS' drivetrain.

[@wholeNwon]

That's simply wrong (said with a smile). The S-Class doesn't begin to approach the engineering excellence and build quality of the LS' drive train. I hope to keep my LS400 for the rest of my life...or longer. I did approach a lady who had arrived in the parking lot in a nice LS430. I was going to give he my contact info. in case she might be interested in selling at some time in the future. As I walked toward her, she said, "Stop. I know you're going to ask to buy my car and we don't plan to sell." We then had a nice conversation. She said people approached her frequently about the car. The list of her family members who wanted it was already long! Bet that doesn't happen to ANY M-B or BMW owners.

[@SeanOMatic]

Nah, my wife has a 2002 Audi Allroad, which is a total maintenance hog and nightmare, especially compared to my '91 LS400 with 312K on it. I often get approached by people to buy the Audi because it's a stylish model with a lot of amazing features that like to break. So, I am sure MB and BMW owners get approached by people who have no clue about the trouble they are getting into. The 1st gen LS400 is the most reliable car of all time, possibly. Certainly in the Top 5.

[@Mercefreaken]

Hehe - the first generation Allroad is perhaps one of the worst cars ever made in Western Europe in modern time. There are rumors of people crying when you mention the name ;)

[@dejansiljegovic4467]

This comparison is so biased it's hard to watch

[@mikejon3062]

I have to 1997 e320's . Both go I have 1 for parts and owned it for 2 years now and not had 1 single engine problem. Its coming up to 300,000 ks and have driven it all over New Zealand and still going strong. Have had a couple electric problems with some of the buttons inside the car but easily fixed. Love the car it's a very reliable tank 😉

[@mikejon3062]

Sorry 320SL

[@nwezetx1]

​@@mikejon3062Hardly credible since you can't get your model right.

[@Philip.Magnusson]

I do like the Lexus but it's too ugly, the Benz is a lot more contemporary. Bruno Sacco did a great job with the design. The 400 or 500 Benz is the one to go for they are great value right now already starting to go back up!

[@sensay2960]

LEXUS LS400 RELIABLE ASS FUCK EASY TO WORK ON PARTS ARE NOT TO PRICEY. GREAT STYLE IF LOWERED OR VIP MODS