Mercedes will continue to provide a more luxury focused experience, whereas BMW will focus on driving dynamics. It's good to have a choice. Mercedes needs to fix quality and finish on the interior whereas BMW needs to consolidate a design language and prove their cars will last for more than 5 years. It's more often to see old mercedes than bmw's on the roads.great video, thanks.
@eliteiel9747Ай бұрын
BMW reliability has skyrocketed as of late, so I think they already working on that. And they recently made their lead design swap over to Rolls Royce, so I hope their designs will improve soon too. Cause if it wasn't for the design really BMW wouldve washed the floor with Mercedes here. Rly disappointed in interior quality on Mercedes as of late, they feel rly cheap especially if not trimmed out.
@alphaanapher4489Ай бұрын
@@eliteiel9747idk. I own a M8 Coupe. The didn’t do anything wrong with that car. But it’s not a common vehicle
@Sergesedd22Ай бұрын
Your reliability comments are played. BMW reliability is among one of the best, so try again.
Mercedes Benz = Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Cowboys! BMW = Golden State Warriors and Philadelphia Eagles!
@Fa-uk5fbАй бұрын
I bought the bmw 760e over the Merc in the uk. I’ve just been informed by bmw there’s a recall on the car which involves removing the dashboard. There’s no way the technicians can take the dash out and put it back together again. As always bmw customer service have washed their hands from this problem and the dealer who is Miles away just want me to take it to any local dealer. So I can see a very big problem coming. So please before buying the bmw or any other bmw please check if it’s on a recall o know X5’s and some x7 d are also on a recall and more than 1.5 million cars worldwide. Bmw don’t want the cars back. There’s just no quality control any more. This car wasn’t cheap either. It was approx £140k Please do your research with buying a new bmw.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Oh wow keep us updated!
@unowen-nh9ovАй бұрын
Since the dash is upright stand-alone, why wouldn't they be able to correct it? Certainly they'll have to after collision, airbags alone. Recalls part of the business, frequently due to parts suppliers (Takata, fuel pumps, most recently brakes), I've seen BMW recall single digit # of vehicles. Also worked @ dealership where they replaced entire electrical harness of flooded MINI, now THAT'S a rebuild, they had to tear apart entire car. Takata caused do-not-drive orders on some older vehicles, you are NOT in the same position (any more than MILLION$ of do not garage 🔥 hazard factory recall Koreans).
@eliteiel9747Ай бұрын
For some reason that 7 series is starting to grow on me. Has something of a Rolls Royce squarish vibe to it, whils the merc is more flowing. The bmw imo looks way more distinguishable whilst the S class, somebody that doesn't really now what it is could think its a c class or and e. Wasn't it like announced too that bmw's design lead is swapping over to rolls royce?
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Yes indeed
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
Yes! Been saying this since it was first compared. The mercedes looks like it could be a 2016 model and no one would know. U know right away that the bmw is brand new and it looks alot more imposing.
@nshon7Ай бұрын
Have the S580e W223. Faults so far - High voltage battery warning (Do not drive warning) within first week. Back to service centre and solved. - Fuel cap actuator failed, cannot open fuel cap. I drive 95% in EV mode so didn't realise for months. Replaced. - Charging port actuator failed, twice. Replaced both times. - Water got into the front lights resulting in total failure (no lights, no signal), twice. Replaced both times - Has idled rough in engine mode (car shakes even) since new, which MB says will go away, it's been two years, it has not gone away. - Car won't shift gears when engine mode is engaged from EV mode, will take 10-20 seconds before it will shift up. MB says it's normal, does not feel normal. - Left rear passenger door blind stuck, won't close. Minor faults/non-fault, complains - Fingerprint sensor almost never works, maybe because I have dry hands but the feature is useless for me. Use facial recognition instead, don't use it personally - One OTA update will not install no matter what for months. Solved when brought in for service - Cannot fit two full size luggage in boot - Self driving when in stop start traffic will disengage after 10-20 seconds, don't know how it works. Not helpful in traffic jam. BMW (iX) does not disengage no matter how long you stop - Steering wheel buttons to scroll through options is inaccurate - Volume control on steering wheel "jumps too much", have to use the control on centre console for more granular adjustment - Update seems to have removed rear passenger massage function. Only the kids use it. - Since I am one of those no-chauffeur S-Class owners, not having ventilated seats for driver and front passenger seems like a cheap move (maybe country specific) Otherwise when it works it is a nice comfortable car as you expect. Could drive better
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Thanks for the report! Horrible. Confirms current notion that most models have gone down in reliability sadly
@MugatuJagАй бұрын
Awesome review, thank you, Thomas. I think the new seven series looks fantastic. That being said the S class is more elegant and the interior is a bit classier. The BMW has a beautiful interior, but it’s more futuristic and cold…. Not necessarily in a bad way.
@MrRaitziАй бұрын
Lexus would be my pick just for reliability. Reliability is quite a luxury. Of course not match to S-klasse or 7 series in other factors.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
True
@iamsam8446Ай бұрын
Even though I'm a BMW guy, I have a mixed review - winners IMO: S class, 5 series, C class & 3 series, X5 and X3.
@tanzil88Ай бұрын
same with me, i would choose S class, 5 series, 3 series, X5 and X3/ GLC.
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
Bmw SUVs are just in another league compared to mercedes. They drive 10x better.
@nino_kO1Ай бұрын
Mercedes is just for a gentleman and people who want to have top luxury and top comfort, bmw for luxury as well but more sportier, its down to a personal choice as always
@sebastian5903Ай бұрын
Mercedes looks always better. More elegant and timeless design.
@unowen-nh9ovАй бұрын
So conservative. Bangle butt E65 745i 1st time BMW outsold them & have been #1 global premium ever since. Only S-Class I've been in was a cab, have yet to ride in 7er (& given size & price of i7 probably never will).
@unowen-nh9ovАй бұрын
Ironically BMW hired '60's Mercedes designer Paul Bracq (who gave them their entire corporate look, from pagoda SL roadster to Pullman 600 limo) to create original 1 sausage 3 sizes 3, 5, 6, 7.
@OBrandt-i5c6 күн бұрын
I went with the GLE450, since my ownership of the E450 All-Terrain Wagon has been absolutely impeccable with perfect reliability and assembly quality. I did consider the X5 and the Porsche Cayenne, before going with the GLE450. The Porsche in particular was really dynamic, but utility-wise, the usable space is seriously compromised, vis-a-vis the BMW and the MB counterparts. Having purchased the MB, I would however not look at the GLE350, since the engine is a serious mismatch for such a large vehicle, even though in a smaller/lighter GLC, the same engine is a great pairing.
@autogefuehl5 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! How do you conceive the difference of Eclass and GLE?
@OBrandt-i5c5 күн бұрын
@@autogefuehl the 2022 E450 (All-Terrain Wagon - equipped with standard Airmatic) that I have, is noticeably lighter, and feels nimbler than the GLE, has less rear-seat space than the GLE, but has deeper - but shallower - trunk/boot space vis-a-vis the GLE. My TransK9 dog-crate (imported from the UK), barely fits in the GLE's taller-but-less-deep hatch/boot/trunk area, since it is not deep enough, but is a perfect fit on the E450 Wagon (with the rear-seats in place on both vehicles). My non-airmatic GLE is still new (5 days old, and still under 1000 miles) and still in the break-in period, and thus I have not pushed it yet, but the E450 surges ahead noticeably quicker than the GLE......clearly, the 900 lbs less weight on it, has less inertia to move, especially when both have the same engine. The payload on both vehicles is in the 1400-1500 lbs range, and since I do not use my GLE or E450 for towing, the extra towing capacity of the GLE (7700lbs vs 4500 lbs) is not a factor for me. The tires - Michelin Pilot Sport All-Season - on the E450, are 245/45/19 in the front and 275/40/19 in the rear, when compared to 275/50/20 Cooper tires on all 4 corners of the GLE. The Michelin Pilot Sports A/S, which is also standard factory fitment for the Chevrolet Corvette, is an Ultra-high-performance All-Season tire, is super grippy, is XL load rated, and is relatively light. I plan to switch out my GLE's factory Cooper tires out, to the FAR better Michelin tires, once the break-in is completed. If I am forced to keep just one vehicle, it will be the E450 All-Terrain, IMO.
@autogefuehl5 күн бұрын
Yeah agree, i think in driving you just feel that typical eclass vibe
@csimbachАй бұрын
Can you compare 7 Series with new panamera with active ride?
@tanzil88Ай бұрын
My choice would be S-class, 5 series, 3 Series, X5 and X3/ GLC.
@cimor125 күн бұрын
That 7 series, along with i7, and x7, those headlamps, I don’t know where to look. Looks like Jack Sparrow when he was held captive by the headhunters. I see other brands doing the same and I’m glad I got my x5 before they start doing I guess weird things to it
@HerculesWFTАй бұрын
It’s so disappointing the benchmark setters 7 series and S class do not offer beautiful elegant dash designs with tactile buttons. This screen craze is so boring and cheap like a corporate office. Soulless. I appreciate it might be easier to design and cost effective but it really, really detracts from the driving experience and what these designers offer trickles down to ordinary vehicles so they have a responsibility to truly be custodians of excellence and craftsmanship. I hope this horrible trends ends soon. No one wants this.
@rxy2580Ай бұрын
Both lovely cars. But 7 series for me
@phil_aАй бұрын
S Class > 7 Series 5 Series > E Class 3 Series > C Class 4 Series > CLE X5 > GLE X3 > GLC
@abhishekprasad5359Ай бұрын
Proud owner of 2023 GLC. Super comfortable and great performance thus far. I love the ambience and infotainment design which is much superior to X3.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Enjoy 😎
@felix-uАй бұрын
BMW only has to screw up the X5 and it will be a complete failure.
@23PiccolinaАй бұрын
Hi Thomas, the new BMW is hideous looking. I will choose the S Class every time over the ugly Bimmer. I do not care for the big screens in the S Class. I am enjoying my 2008 S550 very much. It has many high tech options....but no turbo and its still very spacious and luxurious.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Enjoy 😎
@seansiew5629Ай бұрын
Well safe to say the w223 is a step backwards in interior quality overall, the materials in comparison to w221 and w222, and many have been saying it
@Sergesedd22Ай бұрын
Lol basic much
@JohnnyJPPCАй бұрын
BMW for me 100% 😎👍with the 7 series and Mercedes for the E classe but 5 series looks bigger hmmm
C class and E class over a bmw 5 and bmw 3 😂😂 dumbest take ever. Sales peak for themselves
@Sergesedd22Ай бұрын
You're silly Felix
@keanumunteanuАй бұрын
Love bmw design and I also like the sportier driving from bmw. The reliability is in favour of bmw, so bmw for me .
@Sergesedd22Ай бұрын
Yes!
@MugatuJagАй бұрын
Hey Thomas, could you talk about how the UK and Germany and Europe in general seemingly doesn’t really offer leases for new cars. Whenever I watch videos, I guess primarily in the UK it seems like people finance…. Is that true? Perhaps you can do a short segment on that. I think that your viewers would find it very interesting. As you know in the United States, especially with high-end cars like this 75% of people lease.👌💯🙏 Myself, for instance I have least BMWs for the last decade, free maintenance, you don’t have to deal with the depreciation, you’re paying about half as much as if you were to finance. And up until a couple years ago, especially BMWs had fantastic lease rates.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Hey m8! In Germany it’s actually also a lot leasing, I guess in the UK too!
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Just checked, leasing share is like 50 % with new vehicles in Germany
@MugatuJagАй бұрын
@@autogefuehl thank you Thomas, actually I did look into it a little bit more and it seem to be more prevalent these days🤷🏻♂️👌💯
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Business is basically all leasing, private has higher financa/purchase share
@MugatuJagАй бұрын
@@autogefuehl oh interesting, yes, I recall back in the day that so many companies provide cars or a stipend for cars in Europe, which was always fascinating to me. Of course they do the same in the US but it’s a bit different. And these days, especially in California every new Range Rover, or Porsche, or lucid, etc. they have Montana, Utah, or Nevada plates because they are tax Havens. People register them them there under their LLC for a write off and then to escape registration and yearly taxes….🤬🤦♂️
@davidnjuguna9477Ай бұрын
What was the phrase you said at @1:42:04 Is there a T-shirt with that on it?
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
www.autogefuehl.shop
@sugarhog1938Ай бұрын
For e class and 5 series, I would go e class, because most people in that class are looking for style and classic, old people. Gle and x5, I would go x5, they are both good tho being 80k unlike the Audis being 130k. S class and 7 series, family car would go 7 series and company car would go s class. C class and 3 series, both cheaper than Audi and cheap, doesn’t matter which one. X3 and glc are both under 50k, very cheap for good quality. Audi’s q4 and q5 are 78k and 85k, too expensive.
@unowen-nh9ovАй бұрын
For Dieselgate VW.
@sugarhog1938Ай бұрын
@@unowen-nh9ov well higher end Audi models don’t feel vw.
@tobias_k01Ай бұрын
I feel like modern BMWs are overhated. They are great cars, even with their controversial styling. Mercedes is more settled with their styling, aside from the EQ sedans they are more evolutionary and not radical. And generally they know their stuff with luxury cars as well. I'd say with modern luxury cars it's mostly a matter of taste. None of them are a bad choice, if we take money out of the equation (you shouldn't buy them anyway if you don't want to lose a lot of money) However in terms of strategy it seems BMW is a bit more successful at the moment, but that can always change - both brands had their highs and lows. If Mercedes gets better with for example interior quality (which it seems they probably already did) and gets their EV sales up then they are pretty much on par again I'd say.
@unowen-nh9ovАй бұрын
VERY different companies, world's largest truck manufacturer made luxury sedans while motorcycle manufacturer smaller upstart challenger who awoke sleeping giant from their slumber (Daimler had to buy independent tuner AMG from former employees to compete with M, now most manufacturers have performance divisions, but it was small independent who kick-started it). This century BMW have doubled volume on Spartanburg X crossovers, now watch them do it again on EV. Oh, & you're right about over-hated, record sales & 20X that # trolls🐌.
@seansiew5629Ай бұрын
@@unowen-nh9ov the Kim Kardashian’s fanbase is the one who started this trend of overhate, because Kim K is a diehard Mercedes fan and not to mention the fanbase is just as childish as they are, w223 s class is just a big disappointment
@UsaSzerelemАй бұрын
Mercedes will get my money! Elegance inside and out is important for me. I miss buttons for most common functions and haptic feedback as MBUX is not a perfect solution as a do everything UI.
@seansiew5629Ай бұрын
Well interior quality has been an all time low since the w223 , much like how the w220 is a step backwards in that department, personally having a w221 and w222 makes me feel better than jumping to the w223
@Liplip40Ай бұрын
S class, E class, X5, tie, tie. 😀
@ChanahsCreativeEditsАй бұрын
Mercedes dealers are the biggest scam artists, liars on the planet. Never ever will I buy again a Merc again. BMW all the way. Better cars anyway.
@DayBotKnightBotАй бұрын
You know you can’t generalize based upon personal experience.
@nino_kO1Ай бұрын
I dont know person and i know them a lot who has bmw's and that all of them had way too much problems.. I would never buy that shit quality car.. mercedes all the way
@J35ta-1Ай бұрын
@@DayBotKnightBotshows u don’t do ur research, most Mercedes’ owners are saying the same thing
@J35ta-1Ай бұрын
@@nino_kO1simply search, which is the most reliable car brand or rather top ten most reliable car brands 2024 and return to the comments with the same mindset, I dare u
@eliteiel9747Ай бұрын
@@nino_kO1 Ye insurances have recently released numbers suggesting that bmw is now the 2nd most reliable brand behind toyota, which is kind of insane.
@pedroalmodovar2263Ай бұрын
Hi Thomas, I would like a to ask you a request, if possible of course, do you have a chance to review the new Zeekr 001?. Anyway i'm a big fun of you and Lia, you look like Sandra & Raimondo, a married couple of italian tv personalities, very loved from all people. their show was called "casa Vianello", is about a normal life of a couple that going through the everyday's problems, really funny. Anyway, keep doing what you do because you're really good at it. ciao.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Hey! Here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXzRg4JoetZmi7ssi=d4g0JC1Rn1hJNQ_h
@jimj2683Ай бұрын
BMW X5 has surprisingly cramped rear seat legroom.
@andrewdoyle1772Ай бұрын
Ah yes, let me watch a review between cars that maybe I could afford in ten years on the used car market 😅
@Björn-JakobLindАй бұрын
Why A4?? Its been replaced with A5.
@AE-bk8tcАй бұрын
Mercedes interior quality in general is quite poor nowadays…
@zustroyАй бұрын
This new BMW can NOT be more ugly. Such a hideous thing! So ugly should be banned.
@libonibo1112Ай бұрын
Im waiting the new s class 2026
@MousirelenАй бұрын
To...mas on the case again like Matlock
@mrmysterious6006Ай бұрын
Driven both the new eclass and new 5 series. Overall the BMW is the better vehicle. It's better engineered and has superior dynamics. Looks wise are subjective and interior is more comfortable in the 5 series.
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Seating is better in the 5 Series indeed
@AnjaliGarg-h8rАй бұрын
I am planning an EV expo in India in November. I would like to connect with you to discuss sponsorship opportunities. Please let me know if you are interested and available.
@automaticimprovements6957Ай бұрын
Current BMW exterior designs are hideous and vulgar. Build quality and reliability on both brands are bottom of the tier list. BMW and Mercedes are cars that you lease for 2 or 3 years maximum, and move on to the next car before they break down on you. At least Mercedes looks nicer on the outside.
@seansiew5629Ай бұрын
BMW reliability is all time high especially the ones using the B58 engine, that engine is as much as a 2JZ in terms of durability and tunability, I do own a w221 and w222, which their interior quality and material are better than the w223
@NOSFERATU_ONEАй бұрын
uh oh
@Johnny91832Ай бұрын
In order of the video: Both E class>5. Series X5>GLE X3>GLC Both Neither, A5 Coupè
@Allanhyde264Ай бұрын
BMW better engineering, engines and drive. Mercedes far better looking. Both full of cheap plastics in newer models but bmw has gone more down
@seansiew5629Ай бұрын
Well B58 engine of BMW is a dealbreaker,tunable and durable as the famed Toyota 2JZ which fans can’t cope
@gagugongbang5780Ай бұрын
Mercedes ❤
@gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156Ай бұрын
que lux ............
@zugiАй бұрын
Design of exterior on both cars is getting worse and worse. Design of interior gets better visually, but no physical controls is awful, and material quality of dashboard is bad, not to mention piano black that should be against the law. Also, quality of car itself has gone down. They are now produced to last 4-5 years and then get as far away from them as you can because it becomes money pit.
@patrickmike2524Ай бұрын
Interiors now are amazing with their use of materials and design (when it’s not all covered in piano black) and powertrains more refined but my god, the exteriors are just getting worse and worse.
@unowen-nh9ovАй бұрын
& $elling more & more while making more & more trolls🐌 😊.
@Allanhyde264Ай бұрын
Bmwand mercedes interior quality has gone down by a lot. Don’t know what you are talking about
@patrickmike2524Ай бұрын
@@Allanhyde264 the design of the interior
@patrickmike2524Ай бұрын
@@unowen-nh9ov snail emoji??
@Allanhyde264Ай бұрын
@@patrickmike2524 I see their design themes being a function of cost cutting; not minimalism. By getting rid of hard buttons, they save on manufacturing costs and have a sly back door way of making more things like auto hold and heated seats a subscription option. It is despicable
@faizelphilander6938Ай бұрын
BMW 💪💪 all the way.👌
@dbh2765Ай бұрын
the 7 series is completely horrible. the 2001 740i m sport is 1000x better.
@seansiew5629Ай бұрын
@@dbh2765 not when you place it next to the 5 series,that one looks way uglier
@jacktaylor6135Ай бұрын
BMW ❤ ✈️ 🛩 🛬 💺 🛫 ✈️
@maxamihere566Ай бұрын
bmw whats up with this design. Its like a burger
@luandjidjia91Ай бұрын
BMW
@lungaswazi9194Ай бұрын
You can't even allow yourself to flat out call the glc better than the x3. The bias is there and we all heard it. Great reviews, nonetheless
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
First of all, please don't put accusations out there without really knowing me. And concisely about this: Check out the final conclusion again at the very end of this video where I explicitly say I'd pick the GLC. What I am doing in the review itself is looking at the markets: Because on the Northern American market, the GLC is not available with air suspension nor rear-axle steering which make a huge difference in driving in Europe and the X3 is way cheaper in the US than it is in Germany for example. So as I pointed out, the price-performance ratio in the US is way better for the X3 whereas in Europe you have more "distance" in luxury driving between GLC and X3. I have no brand bias what so ever. More to my personal car history here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHS6lp-grqZjjpY
@BizmyurtАй бұрын
Both are hideously!
@antoniocalimero1173Ай бұрын
All cars look the same😂 Better back to 1990..
@eliaseb7960Ай бұрын
Its funny how he said beauty is subjective with every comparison but then when he compared 3 series with C class he said 3 series looks better 😂😂😂 how much is bmw pay u my "say no to animal skin material" dude. this one was obviously bmw propaganda
@autogefuehlАй бұрын
Right caus u dont agree to smth you accuse people of something which has nothing to do with it. I aint getting no money from BMW and would you think they d pay for a result where they dont always win?
@MugatuJagАй бұрын
Awesome review, thank you, Thomas. I think the new seven series looks fantastic. That being said the S class is more elegant and the interior is a bit classier. The BMW has a beautiful interior, but it’s more futuristic and cold…. Not necessarily in a bad way.