Mercury Class vs Modern Basestars | Modern Ships Pack - Battlestar Galactica Deadlock

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[@manicpixiedckgirl]

The clutch flak raise at 26:28 was a rare case of EE's tactical brilliance outshining his lack of perception

[@c.a.mcdivitt9722]

Valkyrie was from the base show- Adama commanded one in a flashback, before being transferred to Galactica.

[@Seth90]

Valkyrie-class Battlestars also appeared in Blood & Chrome as part of the Ghost Fleet

[@c.a.mcdivitt9722]

@@Seth90 I think that was just them cutting costs on CGI and hoping we wouldn't notice, since the Valkyrie was supposed to be a more "advanced" design than the Galactica.

[@kenhagler7166]

@@c.a.mcdivitt9722 Cutting costs almost certainly _was_ a factor, but the ship was specifically identified by name--they definitely weren't trying to hide it. It still was a more advanced design, since Galactica dated back to the beginning of the war and Valkyrie didn't show up until towards the end.

[@Seth90]

@@c.a.mcdivitt9722 You're probably not wrong on the cost part. That said: Valkyrie is still a more modern design! The Jupiter is, after all, a pre-war design while the Valkyrie's supposed to be designed right at the end of the War.

[@MrSlick16]

@@c.a.mcdivitt9722 as stated it was named in blood and chrome as well as having the same design. With it being in the ghost fleet it was likely commissioned around 4 years before the end of the war. After the war and by the time of Adar becoming President, the Valkyrie class was probably seen as more cost efficient to keep updated since it would best fit in with patrolling in relative peacetime despite being maybe 44 years old when the Cylons returned. The Jupiter II class meanwhile were 50+ years old, would be harder to keep up to modern standards due to the size and wouldn't be as cost effective as building more modern Battlestars.

[@princekyros]

The modern Basestars weren't really intended for fleet engagements, they're more like missile platforms and carriers that were mainly built to bombard the 12 colonies and then occupy whatever remained.

[@vadfarkas14]

Yep. Wich explains the complete lack of point defense and other weaponry besides missiles and nukes. One could argue that the point defense role was meant for the raiders in a way similar to that of TIE fighters in Star wars.

[@HairyTrigger]

Explains why the Pegasus regularly skull-fraked any basestar that it fought head on.

[@vadfarkas14]

@@HairyTrigger yep. The situation in this case is simple. The new basestars were designed for 1 specific role. That being the destruction of the 12 colonies and the complete eradication of humans. In their mind you dont need a strong ship for war if your war ends within a few short hours and there are no survivors to fight back.

[@jamesricker3997]

They were actually developed to jump in and deliver a devastating first strike. The Cylon's knew from the last war with the Colonial's Superior resources and industrial base in a war of attrition to Colonials would win. If the fight broke down into a slugging match the war was lost

[@LAJ-47FC9]

The game was never actually set in Classic BSG, it was set during the First Cylon War in the modern BSG.

[@Starfleet8555]

Which was what I was kind of confused about. Why put the Mercury in the game it wasn't even made yet at the time of the 1st Cylon War. Valkyrie, I understand since it was built During the late years of the 1st Cylon War. For MK7 how come, they couldn't use the MK3, instead? that was developed during the late years of the war to.

[@joshuadickinson4614]

@@Starfleet8555 The modern ships (mercury, mk7, basestar etc) are added by a specific dlc and are not available in campaign, only is skirmish, multiplayer and Anabasis. If your asking why they added them to a game set in the first cylon war? because they could.

[@Starfleet8555]

@@joshuadickinson4614 I know it's a DLC I have the DLC. I just don't think The Mercury or MK7 should've not been a part of the DLC

[@joshuadickinson4614]

@@Starfleet8555 I disagree but that's fine.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

@@Starfleet8555 its the last dlc, this was a present to the players, because now we have all the cool ships.

[@captainwolf5922]

Something to note: Using flak only disables a Battlestar’s point defense guns, not it’s cannons. Also, the Mercury actually does best when above and facing a target, as it has 10 battlestar artillery on the front, and 8 battlestar artillery on the bottom. Also, it only has 4 battlestar artillery on the top of the ship.

[@Starfleet8555]

Do keep in mind flak can damage your own ships to, (albeit very little). I'm not talking about fighters.

[@HairyTrigger]

Its the only battlestar thats weak on dorsal firepower, which is odd considering every other design has guns slapped all over their topsides.

[@macgruber6739]

Chad Strategy against a missile-heavy Fleet is two Jupiters Flak-Fielding each other (a Jupiter can easily sit fully in another Jupiters Flak-Field), and just Rush Them. Don't Forget to launch your fighters before you enable Flak though.

[@Frank_havre_creation]

Respect to that battlestar that got struck by 3 damn nuke and kept on flying... :O

[@MartyrPandaGaming]

It's not that surprising really. Galactica was 50 years old, give or take, and she was able to take hits from, if I recall correctly, at least, 2 nukes. So a Mercury Class taking 3 is par for the course, considering how much more advanced they are. Adama and Galactica still would have destroyed Pegasus in the show if they fought. They wouldn't win, but neither would Pegasus; Adama is just that much of a Chad.

[@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068]

@@MartyrPandaGaming in one battle Pegasus took 4 or 5 ship to ship nuclear missiles and didn't flench

[@felixleong61]

​@@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 Not really surprising though. The Galactica is decades old with most of her guns and armor stripped while Pegasus is one of the state of the art, fully functional battlestars in the colonial fleet. Although the Galactica is stripped of most of her teeth, she more than compensates with her too-angry-to-die and middle-finger energy. Pegasus may win but Galactica made sure it bruises her killer heavily. *Halfway through the battle, significant amount of munitions spent and heavy damage taken* Cain: Why does this thing won't fracking die?! Fisk: Ma'am.....Its the Battlestar Galactica..... What do you expect? Galactica: Yeah right B*tch. I fought throughout the 1st Cylon War heavily. It will take WAY more than that to take me down!

[@roderickhamilton9891]

Set condition one throughout my pants, because I love me some Battlestar Galactica

[@kaiserjoe2316]

So say we all!

[@vasch7521]

I love that your playing this. The first thing i watched you play was this game.

[@nebbus22]

Yay! Was hoping you'd come back to this game some day. Would love to see a full campaign(s) playthrough

[@sierra0756]

With all the updates would you ever consider doing another campaign of this

[@aurorajones8481]

You should have launched alert vipers on your first round, leave one guarding each battlestar and take the rest and project in a group. When grouped up they are a force capable of real damage. Also rush in top heavy let your bottom and front armor soak it up when they fall turn to port activate flak and keep your armor present to the enemy. I find it useful to project a battlestar wall meaning you stack them allowing for concentrated fire in a single column. Your BS were spread to thin... lessons learned.

[@Navidson1]

I would love to see a full play through of all the DLCs and campaigns with the new gameplay additions and tweaks. Its such a deliciously difficult game on normal or hard and does such good job of using your abilities.

[@williamsummerfield3864]

I really loved your first play through of this game and would love to see you play some of the new campaigns or even go back to the first again with all the new ships and the broken alliance DLC for extra missions!!

[@silanae]

Thanks for also making me feel old in the first few minutes! But interesting video and nice to see the modern ships in action. :)

[@lucasmarchezim881]

That was amazing, and the action shots in "real time" (cuz you were playing it at 1/4 speed most of the time) were great!

[@ruztedshut]

I just picked this game up two days ago and I have been loving it. It is neat to see how different people play the game. So many different builds and strats.

[@ocoilau8621]

When you've been waiting for the Pegasus so long that you begin to grow wings!! *_THANK YOU DEADLOCK YOU FRAKING AMAZING GAME!!_*

[@reachhh212]

Could try a 2 tier missile defense with flak and vipers on defend area, since the cylon ships seem fixated on the closes ship/the battlestars. Meanwhile your torpedo ships and minervas could flank and the rangers can focus down vulnerable or retreating targets since they cylons lack point defense. Also a raptor boarding party can de-fang the revenant, since that thing has insane ballistics. Cool video, stoked to see the modern series ships!

[@detesco764]

Great video, great looking game & I loved the replay at the end. Keep up the good work. :)

[@crashstudi0s]

Oh this is going to be intresting, I need those DLCs now. Good vid EE.

[@sirfredrin6302]

The modern Cylons relied too much on subterfuge and indirect engagement that one would call it a weakness. I would like to see an alternate reality where the backdoor in the nav program was discovered and the cylons had to fight an actual engagement with colonial fleet.

[@Stargazzer811]

I honestly think that had a Second Cylon War kicked off that way, it would have been a much more balanced but probably much longer conflict. Still I wouldn't mind them openning this game up to modders; they could give us something like that.

[@andyphennah8038]

Awesome! Now I have to rewatch all the Battlefleet Gothic 2 campaign ( again )

[@tiagodagostini]

I usually prefer to stack my battlestars on top of each other, very closely . So the top and bottom one can keep flak on and full DEFENSE protecting the third one in middle that can be on full ATTACK . The effective defense is superior and the effective attack as well. I keep the other ships behind that wall so they can DUCK down behind it if needed

[@phoenixtalon100]

ooooof I love your content mate but it hurt when you made the mercury dive and the Valkyrie rise XD

[@FullmetalDeveloper]

Thank you for showing this game👍

[@axer333]

Am in the mood to watch that show now, dam their goes my week :p. Umm’d and ahh’d ya buying this game for a while. Will say your the main reason I would get it.

[@lastechocorp1841]

thank you for covering this. also the Valkyrie was in the original war chronologically

[@russellgould3546]

I got this on humble a few months ago. After this I feel inspired to install and invest some hours.

[@lonewolfgaming83]

EE i loved your original playthrough of this... and would love to see more. So what you should do in skirmish is recreate some of the epic battles seen in the show but on a what if the mercury had been there... or what if an extra base star turned up etc.

[@Debbiebabe69]

2:18 love the way he says NUKE.....

[@ShinyPantsBlank]

Great video! Keep it up!

[@liamdaly20]

Makes me want to go rewatch BSG (or at least the first couple seasons)

[@noneed4me2n7]

Wish we’d gotten the heavy raiders and stealth fighters. Maybe a whole “what if” 2nd cylon war campaign with all the newer goodies.

[@natzo89]

If the virus had failed the colonials would have wiped out the cylon fleet with the lack of guns on modern basestars. Even first war ships put a better fight against the weaker Valkyries. I know the reason, which makes the virus all the more critical.

[@tmo_117]

Dang it, wasn’t interested in the concept of this game but after seeing it in action and the replay after now I want it

[@jeremydale4548]

well, it's on sale right now. as well as most of the DLC

[@willbeach87]

Ohhh saw this on my feed have to go cop the new DLC

[@trickyboy1517]

The Valkyrie featured in the episode called Hero S3 E8. Starring Carl Lumbly as Bulldog

[@TheKeyser94]

Actually Valkyrie canonically in the reboot is not a new Battlestar, is a ship from Great Cylon War, use for stealth, they are even older than the Galactica. In Deviant Art there was a huge community that designed fanfiction Battlestar, now at days is quite dead, because no designs had come in a long time ago, never the less, the community still likes designs, like mine, I built an entire reputation by building strange Battlestars and by beating one of the head honchos that didnt want me give me credit for one of my designs.

[@DavidWMiller]

I feel like that jumping in sequence would look way cooler with a fixed perspective.

[@LtCWest]

Agree, especially if they simultaniously jump in, not one after the other

[@AudioCalibrator]

do a series on this game afain pleaseee! I miss your space 4X playthroughs, I also miss your Xcom stuff

[@fatmanboozer1760]

Wouldn't mind seeing a short series on this, maybe recreate some battles from the "new" tv series

[@dekai7992]

I see EE, I see re-imagined BSG, I leave a like!

[@supsup335]

EE, you do know that Deadlock followed specifically the 2003 cannon , not the old laser pew-pew cannon

[@slimebone6164]

Wait, how do you get 16k fleet points, I have all but one dlc (ghost fleet) and I’m only at 12k fleet points or is it only PC version only or do I need ghost fleet to raise to 16k, idk I’m lost

[@nadhirnazif2564]

Mercury class battlestar was suppose to be used head first to quickly kill the enemy then turn broadsides to engaged the other ship another thing is the mercury is more offensive rather then defensive.

[@alexanderson3847]

oh heck yeah!!!

[@pyrolopez854]

I called it! Mercury class was coming

[@Wasparcher1]

I hereby nominate you for the Lee Adama Most pointless waste of a Battlestar Award.

[@electrohalo8798]

they added the modern ships? right! to hell with saving up im geting this game

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

in the gams, the modern basestars are brutal flankers.

[@Paleorunner2]

Do you have a whole play through?

[@rhysproudfoot2667]

Thought there was a 7 ship limit on fleets?

[@Zpajro]

I think you spent a bit too long in the photo mode and that you stop it a bit to mush. I would have preferred if you just looked at the cinematics without stopping so much. And remembering when you played KSP with war modes. Yes, more space combat things would be nice ^^

[@dylanlewis5113]

Galactica's design was different on the old show. Deadlock uses the old show Battlestar model as the Artemis. Pegasus was designed to look more like the old Galactica than the new Galactica.

[@fredlandry6170]

I love the Pegasus, my favorite Starship ever it’s just the perfect Battlestar.

[@ala5530]

2004? really? Huh, I thought the "new" one was older than that. Then again, I count from the pilot miniseries (which was 2001, iirc), rather than the first episode of the series proper ("33", which must have been a brutal opening to the shoot, particularly if they shot the episodes mostly in order. As I recall, the behind the scenes bit for getting the characters to look like they were up for days and not tracking properly was... to keep the actors up for days so they weren't tracking properly, and not give them the normal amount of time to learn their lines and rehearse)

[@Dr.SlimeIV]

Comment for the algorithm

[@John_does]

Comments!!

[@markmool1]

Why not include the mark III ?

[@iamspartan1997]

please more deadlock

[@Eric-1879]

Might we see a return of the battlestar series? Perhaps not a full campaign, but some skirmish highlights? There's a ton of tactical depth to the game. I'd imagine a vertical broadside formation, with 3 or even 4 ships stacked atop each other on the Z-axis, could do horrible things to the Cylons. And frankly, the Cylons deserve it.

[@chaoticnick922]

So I just came from the 2017 playthrough, and this seems so chaotic, that my brain is struggling to comprehend it! what happened to seven-ship fleet maxes and WHERE did all those extra slots come from?

[@Zpajro]

Can you do an MP match in this? And a tips video would be nice ^^

[@Zpajro]

Oh, and have another comment

[@riedstep]

this game looks pretty cool. dont know anything about battlestar galactica though.

[@BigStou]

You never want to face a space station with your broad side exposed, attacking from the front should of been the go to then swinging into broad side

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

time to frak some Cylons up

[@AlricOfRahls]

Will there be a continuation of CK3 with Zach?

[@bcmm1880]

Wish console would get 16k fleets (as well as other features from pc)

[@connerfarr8072]

This game reminds me of star wars armada

[@Lord_Shadowz]

I’m sitting here in suspense!! Will the Mark VII Vipers use all 3 cannons ?? I really hated that about the show. I still don’t get why they never used the third cannon!

[@AstroPsych_]

How cool would it be to have a Star Trek mod for this game

[@SeanUCF]

I would go ballistic 😆

[@CastellanMaben]

is it just me or does Enterelysium sound a lot like Lionheart?

[@Kurock1000]

Is there a season 3 planned?

[@Seth90]

no, the developer Black Lab said in their last announcement that they have no further plans after Season 2

[@Kurock1000]

Seth90TOF cheers! I couldn’t find anything myself. To bad. Hopefully there’s more battlestar ip games in the works atleast.

[@blockrock44]

Nice stuff! You kinda kept the sponsership under wraps until the end, which is a little odd and not your style. Still good stuff though.

[@danieldeak9141]

Who else remembers BSGO?

[@gpress3366]

Do some more stellaris

[@battlestarmercury]

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[@dtoad48]

hi

[@jgamefactory]

I am going to say one thing. Your first mistake was not launching all fighters turn 1. Fighters are the colonials greatest assets while the cylons greatest assets are their middle and nuke capabilities. You could have defeated the entire cylon group with 3 battlestars.

[@followerofjulian1652]

The sad effects of meth addiction!

[@Faraonqa]

what happened to your voice

[@LAR-hs2qt]

You need to desperately brush up on ship to ship engagement tactics. You made several tactical mistakes--that cost you a very expensive (and mostly irreplaceable) Mercury Class Battlestar--you where lucky, not to have lost more. Your fleet entered this battle in one of the worst possible fleet deployments: a classical naval maneuver called, "Crossing the T." This occurs, when a fleet deploys their ships in a single straight or staggered line bow to stern perpendicular to an approaching fleet--effectively maximizing all ships for full broadsides on either side of their line. Any foolish commander reckless enough to move his ships straight up inline to cross the T is met with a full line of ships broadside that he can not return immediately, because your line of ships are not in position to fire broadside. The time it takes to maneuver out to return a broadside is usually costly--as you painfully found out--if, not decisive. A broadside line is better approached at the flanks (sides). Whereas you turn the tables on the opponent, and create your own " Crossing the T " maneuver (|---). Or spliting you forces to create a double deployment at each flank ("H"), could cause greater enemy lost as they scramble to escape your broadside focused fire. A feint maneuver using you long range missile Rangers up the middle of the T to draw fire and retreat, would be a good diversionary tactic before deploying you flank maneuvers--which could turn into a "Pincer" maneuver, if done right. Short FTL jumps to position your ships during your attack deployments would be very useful to disguise your maneuvers as you deploy you ships for attack. Recon before an engagement is always advisable to understand the enemy fleet's deployment--so as to draw plans to effectively take advantage of the positions of their ships. But what do you care; you just want to play.

[@oldchannel3320]

Situational as different ships have different arcs and configure to where and when they can even fire guns

[@LAR-hs2qt]

@@oldchannel3320 You've missed my main point, these battle tactics need some major improvements dude. What, you can't take some constructive criticism? Must be a Millennial. You trying to tell me that these ships can't maneuver before an battle engagement? They can; I've watched them. Oh, never mind.

[@baronbrutality757]

It was horrible to watch the enemy ships firing with all their weapons whilst he did not have his fighters deployed and was not firing all his weapons...

[@LAR-hs2qt]

@@baronbrutality757 Sorry for the late repy. I felt the same way. I mean, it's a game, but that was just horrible maneuvering tactics. I normally don't comment on gamer's mistakes, however I had to make an exception here. I'm glad someone else saw what I witnessed. I wasn't trying to be rude, just informative. Thank you for your astute observation.

[@baronbrutality757]

@@LAR-hs2qt Yeah it was all very painful to watch. Didn't launch fighters early enough, didn't do any recon, didn't have ships in anything like an acceptable formation!

[@nking9268]

To much stop start

[@piroman890]

Your tactics rly sucks man. Battlestar always have to try being below the enemy to activate upper artillery,flack managemement terrible, no squadrons lanuched before battle? why manticores ? why no minotaur instead with grater firepower?

[@ericgray1773]

could you please stop trying to sound like TotalBiscut