Mere Conservationism, Divine Concurrentism, and Occasionalism with Dr. Edward Moad

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[@SeriouslySerene]

Beautiful advice from Dr. Moad, thank you!

[@salmanknoxville]

I’m 42 minutes in, and I have to say I am so grateful that you both had this conversation for us. I had been trying to understand these concepts for a while, and Dr Edward does such a fantastic job of presenting all concepts without a bias! Great interviewing skills as well!

[@arjun2146]

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[@thetwelvers3202]

Would it be correct to say that the Mu'tazilah were mere conservationists?

[@feiisp2343]

Hmm. In my opinion (this is Shoaib) I think Mutazilites were more likely weak occasionalists. Everything is under the control of God except the free will of humans :)

[@thetwelvers3202]

​@@feiisp2343 Interesting. Is that view pretty the same view as the Ash'ari view? Or did the Ash'aris believe that free will is also caused/created/under the control of God? I always thought that the Mu'talizah view was that God causes everything to exist, but the actions of humans are completely up to them and God has no control over actions?

[@feiisp2343]

@@thetwelvers3202 - that is the debate. On the one hand it is claimed that God controls everything but on the other hand they suggest the theory of kasb.